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I actually have a similar build where I'm doing 16 Dex/Cha, 14 Con, on a lvl4 Assassin Rogue / lvl8 Old One, Pact of The Blade Lock. Take two ASI to get Cha to 20 (before gear) and Defensive Duelist for the armor bonus on missed attacks, which should be VERY often once you get access to Darkness and Devil's Sight on Warlock.
You should try that sword with the bhaalist armor, it doubles your damage by making enemies vulnerable to piercing. Absolutely insane damage
Aura of murder is my favorite thing ever dark urge is so fun
Cool Build.
Thanks
Thanks, this is what I'm looking for.
You can get permanent advantage on dex ability checks (stealth, sleight of hand..) quite early through The Graceful Cloth (+2 dex cloth armor). It counts as the cat's grace spell. In addition you only need 18 dex and can spend the second feat elsewhere
Where do you get that?
@@cummins24421 Lady Esther early in the mountain pass region
unfortunately it looks so bad, i'll never wear that
@@DreamerTrain you can always just show camp clothing
it gives advantage on sleight of hand and a +2 to dex. Thats not the same as advantage on stealth though.
There is some alternative gear that still works very well. The Bhaal armor of course is amazing, and the Bloodthirst dagger gives a similar bonus. You don't get the stealth bonus, but you get double damage, which is of course absurd. There's also the Dancing Breeze, a finesse halberd, and Phalar Aluve, a finesse longsword. These can both be used with Great Weapon Mastery and Sneak Attack, which is great. For more stealth, keeping Shadowheart as Trickery gives her Blessing of the Trickster, which more than makes up for not having stealth advantage. The Graceful Cloth also gives advantage to stealth.
From level 3 through 6, you'll be relying on darkness and Devil's Sight to kill enemies, so there's even an early strategy before getting Greater Invisibility. In my version, I did all 7 warlock levels first. I used a two-hander until i got the Duelist's Perogative, which is just better, but I sometimes swapped to Bloodthirst.
In other words, the items that you provide are amazing, but there are options, even as early as act 1. I'd say that you want to get Graceful Cloth and Phalar Aluve in Act One, graduate to Dancing Breeze and Elegant Leather Armor in early Act 3, finally ending up with Duelist Perogative and the Bhaal armoe in late Act 3. These make you an incredible, sneaky Warlock assassin.
one note is once you get pact of the blade from warlock dump dex and put into charisma since your weapon wont get damage bonus from dex anymore your can just get dex gloves from moonrise tower in act 2 that raises your dex to 18 so you still get all the other benefits from dex outside of damage
came down here to say this. You actually lose damage when you blade pact if your dex is higher than CHA
Seriously, the only thing you'd lose at that point is 1 less in AC (gasp)
100% this. If you're using Pact of the Blade anyway, then made your damn Cha higher than 14 ffs
hmm... you could also go titanstring bow with cloud giant str elixir and plink things super hard from stealth at extreme elevated range, I found I can sniper shoot like this with Astarion and restealth before they get close enough to see him
Everyone is complaining about Pact of Blade nerfing the weapon but you dont have to use it until you get 2 hits with pacted weapons. at that point 2 hits do more than 1 and the build focuses on the stealth checks above all else which you need the dex for over charisma. Its a fun build not a 400+ damage a turn min max build
I went with the great dark one for the fear. On the opener I cast an illusion cat to get them grouped, then Hadar aoe on them. I also grabbed gaseous form instead of fly since I have misty step.
Noice. Was trying to make a darkness based Astarion build. Probably basing levelling off of you but instead go for Great Old One.
Love this build, thank you! I am adjusting the Charisma a bit more and dropping INT/CON and sacrificing 1 DEX in feats but otherwise love this!
I wonder though.. instead of Repelling Blast I wonder if ONE WITH SHADOWS is a better choice for Eldritch Invocations because you can use it in an emergency and just stay invisible if you don't move. I LOVE Repelling blast and Agonizing Blast right now together so hard up choosing it but just wondering if that has been used in this build and tested as One With Shadows seems like a perfect build for this concept. Also thinking I don't really WANT to move enemies away from me, I want to murder them all silently, so blasting them backwards actually is a negative here...
Also some suggestions I posted in a few replies I would check out.. but for equipment..
2+ Char Hat Birthright
Shade-Slayer Cloak - 1 Reduction of Crit pt needed
Stalker Gloves - +1 to initiative to stack with chest and sneak attack boost
Disintegrating Night walkers to stay on your feet and since I didn't choose flight or dimension door it'll help Misty walk more.
The Dead shot Bow - 1 reduction of Crit pt needed and Keen atk to improve ranged when needed
Infernal Rapier for Wyll or Crimson Mischief until I can get the Duelist sword!
Using Ring of Arcane Synergy but for my other ring using.. BOOM:
.... Band of the Mystic Scoundrel, after hitting you can cast illusion or enchantment spell AS BONUS ACTION and I picked up mirror image so it'll help that and our beautiful Greater Invis.
Lastly using Spectator Eyes Necklace for more utility..
Lightfoot Halflings and Deep Gnomes also get advantage on stealth as a racial ability. Halflings are particularly good as you have the lucky ability so even if you do roll a critical failure on that advantage check, the dice will be rerolled, the likely hood of you failing a second advantage check are pretty much zero. For that reason alone Halflings are the stealthiest race in the game and theres heaps of spells and gear that solves the short speed distance.
i would take one with shadows over beguiling whatever
at will invis as long as youre obscured is great
Recently started a character that coincidentally is a modified version of this but with gloom stalker ranger instead of rogue
The Deathstalker mantle is almost mandatory for any invisibility based build, which means you'll need to go dark urge, and it's best to start out as a Duergar for the racial invisibility ability to stack with other ways to go invisible, plus the superior dark vision also helps.
This is a wild mix of ideas that down mix together well.
Instead of investin into argonizing blast, you should have taken Beguiling Incluence on your 2nd Warlock level. That, paired with all the Skill Bonis from Rogues, will get you a bunch of easy ability checks. Because you somehow wasted your stats into dex, instead of CHA (what anyone with Pact of blade should do) you actually just nerf yourself by picking argonizing blast, If you only want the passive bonis from Warlock for the first 5 level, pick 2 light crossbows instead of using argonizing blast. Makes things much easier and you can still hold onto this methode until late game, because get Gloves of DEX in act 1 in the creche which sets your Dex to 18.
and Assassin is not as good as thief with Warlock.
Here is a better idea for early game:
3 levels into rogue/thief
1 level into Warlock
2 shortswords
Use first Bonus interaction for Hex on main target.
Go in with your dual melees.
Benefit from 2 Attack rolls, both getting Hex bonus damage.
Do the same with dual crossbows if you have any issues regarding range enemies.
From then on level warlock levels until:
3 levels into thief
5 levels into Warlock.
Pact of blade for Mainhand shortsword.
Same tactic with 20 Charisma at that point and 18DEX
This is much better than anything else in this video.
If you maintain concentration (should be easy with this build) you can do 2 main hand attacks + 1-6 Hex bonus damage + 2 off-hand attacks + 1-6 Hex damage.
It would be even better if you showed the stealth checks DC on the log, so that we know how much harder it gets each check.
First roll is 15,next 17 and then +1 difficulty each time
Super cool idea. Alternate options would be to pick Deep Gnome or Halfling races for their default advantage on stealth checks, or use the Graceful Cloth for +2 Dex and advantage on all Dex (including Stealth) saves, which would also save you a feat. Gloves of Dexterity from the Quartermistress in Creche Yllek could let you dump dex entirely to favor Charisma for Pact of the Blade attack and damage rolls. The Graceful Cloth and Gloves of Dex are available on your first day if you're skipping the Grove/Halsin quests, or immediately after you're finished with the Grove party.
Going to try this build with a Lightfoot Halfling for the advantage on stealth checks and Halfling Luck for re-rolling 1's. Starting stats: 8 16 14 8 10 17, Ethel's Hair Charisma + Graceful Cloth for 18 Dex and 18 Cha without Feats. Levels: 3x Rogue (Theif for extra bonus action to hide in Darkness while still making an off-hand attach, or Assassin for guaranteed crits), 9x Warlock for Hold Monster and level 5 spell slots, or alternatively go 5x Gloomstalker Ranger, 7x Warlock for 3 main-hand attacks every round, Greater Invis, 3+ Initiative and the Dread Ambusher attack on the first round which adds an extra 1d8 damage, you also have access to a Fighting Style, and you can take Urban Tracker Archetype if you want this to be the pick-lock character, and Ranger Knight Favored Enemy for access to heavy armor including gloves, boots, helmets, etc.)
Story-wise could be a Ranger who made a pact with Ethel after taking her hair, or after taking Ethel's hair realized how strong Fey can be and sought a different Fey creature to pact with around the transition to Act 2 (maybe the character calls in a favor from the Shadar Kai, He Who Was, for help locating a spooky Feyboi to get pacty with)
Feats: I'd prioritize Alert so you don't have to worry about getting spotted and absolutely manhandled by the initiative order, and then grab and ASI for 2x Charisma points to bring you up to 20 Cha without items.
Dual wield short swords or use the Phalar Aluve in Act 1 (add an extra 1d4 of thunder damage with Shriek, or 1d4 to attack rolls with Sing. Shriek will harmonize with Gloves of the Belligerent Skies and Boots of Stormy Clamour, also available in Act 1, causing enemies to likely go prone in the first round.) Dual Wield the Justiciar's Scimitar and Sword of Clutching Umbra (Sold by Dammon at Last Light) in Act 2. Both give the Shadowsoaked Blow special actions which do and extra 1d6 Psychic damage and DO NOT BREAK CONCEALMENT, so on a thief build you could hide either out of sight lines if your Invis breaks or in darkness and you can do a main-hand attack with extra damage dice while hiding, and still remain hiding for advantage on your second attack from Pact of the Blade. Deathstalker Mantle from Dark Urge story line would be a nice safety net if you end up in a tight squeeze without spell slots but have enough action economy to finish off an enemy and trigger the free 2-rounds of Invis
With the Duellist's Perogative Rapier from Act 3, you'll be doing 4 attacks with your main hand weapon, every round on Tactician, and it's a +3 weapon, stock.
Note: You'll probably want to keep a space for Crusher's Ring and the Haste Helm if you take Deep Gnomes or Halflings because of the decreased movement speed. Longstrider is huge for this.
This is an exciting build to think through, great idea!
Lightfoot halfling gives you advantage on stealth rolls at character creation if you dont want to wait for the chest piece
halfling lmao
deep gnome all the way 💪
And gets Lucky, so your chance of rolling double ones is 1:160000.
Look that's true and I agree they're awesome but I just can't play a deep gnome or a Lightfoot for 300 hours (and for me it's a minimum I still have to finish the game I keep rerolling :D
Halfling luck is still bugged, as of right now there is zero benifit to halfling for combat as it does not reroll critical misses.@@boydkleen5730
So if I was able to pass lvl 20 (24) what other class would you go with?
What are your thoughts on building this with a Bard instead of warlock?
This was my set up on my first run but I chose a dark elf
4:30 You seem confused on the mechanics of Pact weapon for Warlocks. Contrary to your claim, Pact weapon doesn't add Charisma as a bonus to your damage; instead, it replaces Strength or Dexterity with Charisma, no? So why would you aim for higher Dexterity than Charisma?
you are correct, only reason for dex would be getting higher ac and better stealth
@@tommiperkkio9614 So now I am questioning the credibility of this build, if the creator doesn't even know the nature of the skills he's promoting.
@@alfarabi73New around here? The info they give is super basic and sometimes wrong. If you want to get deeper into mechanics on any game watch anyone else. Love them but it’s true.
@@alfarabi73 you are forgetting the stealth checks are one of the most inportant things for this build as the checks get harder and harder as time goes on so maxing Dex for Stealth is gunna keep you hidden for longer, also I think pact weapon takes the highest of your Str/Dex/Cha for the weapon attacks to use for Hit and Dmg
@@tytar1037 Yup; new. Just looking for BG3 builds. I get your point, but this build advice is outright misleading, not just "basic."
Wow this is the perfect build for Astarion, it perfectly exemplifies the vampire aesthetic. I would probably try to focus more on getting charisma up rather than dex, especially since you can get high dexterity from gloves. But it probably doesn't even matter. I wonder if Thief rogue would be better, especially with an extra attack as a bonus action from the sword. As the thief, you'll be able to do 2 hits per turn presumably
Another alternative I would consider is going with Bard instead of Warlock. You'll lose eldtrich blast and devil's sight, but you'll still have greater invisibility and an extra attack without relying on charisma for pact of the blade. Additionally, swords bard means you can become even more effective with your dueling rapier, with flourishes to add the cherry on top.
@@jasonhendricks4562 darkness + devil's sight are too OP. So mb the best here is: 6 bard of blades (for extra attack), 3 thief (for 2 bonus actions), 3 warlock GOO for devil's sight and darkness. I think darkness is more effective than invisibility. And a second bonus action worth more than just 1st turn mega crits. So you can kill them all in solo and fight in long combats. And another nice feature of this build - having 2 one-handed crossbows. So you have range damage option and it is GOOD option. You can shoot just... i dont know... 4 times per turn? or even more... I mean, just cast darkness on yourself, shoot em all, and if they'll get to melee - just shred them all... And you have many proficiencies. And you have some CC by "Blade Flourish" (bards of blade skills). So i think it is best.
Or 3 bard blades, 3 thief, 6 warlock archfey pact of blade. Here we take extra attack from warlock and misty escape. But we dont need escape from darkness. So, 1st variant is better i think.
you actually don't even need the hag bane potion all you have to do is toggle the passive non lethal attacks so you knock out the hag, from there there is dialog options to cut the child out of her stomach killing the hag in the process
Thank you for the video
Deep Gnome get adv on stealth, adv vs int wis and cha magic saves and 24m darkvision. Seems like a good fit and opens up armor slot for something like Bhaal's Armor =p
These racial darkvisions not works in a darkness. Only warlock's devil's sight.
@user-bq1dz8dt7r only magical darkness. Don't need magical darkness if good at stealth also helm in a3 fixes that issue.
What's devils sight got to do with the chest armor giving advantage on stealth though?
@@DragonicTerror devil's sight allows you to cast darkness on yourself and kill them all) It gives you adv and blindness and disadv for foes.
@user-bq1dz8dt7r you're correct however the point in my response is about using a race for advantage on stealth instead of a chest piece. You're changing the entire build to get darkness as a spell and devil sight is a 3 level warlock dip.
@@DragonicTerror correction: 2 level lock dip
What is the point of lvling Dif u are playing pact of the Blade? What am i missing?
Is someone able to inform me on the "illithid jar with larvae" item from act 3. Its supposed to combine with something and i dont know what
Devil's sight doesn't allows you to see in Hunger of Hadar. Just ONLY in a darkness spell. So hunger seems not so good here...
Yeah good call here, I didn't realize it till I did my second run thru using this video... now I'm thinking maybe I want to do.. Vampiric touch if I'm putting this on Astarion or Mirror image for AC? Cloud of Daggers to continue the invisible assassin deal.. if I'm out of combat anyway like he mentions Hunger of Hadar is for.. then why not mess everything up and use my darkness and some cloud of daggers.. or Blink/Gaseous Form? Which both you can use in dangerous situations.. and again with Astarion picking up this build more Vampiric like. Maybe Mirror Image even? thinking this is for when I'm knocked out of combat and in a dangerous situation.. Hunger of Hadar damages and I can't see thru it.. so how does this help me? I'd rather have options or be safe and have other characters refocus while I hide it out or heal/armor up at least?
I think I might do mirror image as it takes no concentration and the others do, which means I could get back into Invis faster and the mirror image still lurks and helps no, while others concentration is broken once I'm switching back to invis... I'm using Wyll for this build not Astarion.. and my main is a druid so I also think instead of Fly I will choose Plant Growth because it will slow down folks to kill easier and be more synergistic with my Druid character armor bonus and their summons' bonuses. Also instead of Beguiling influence, using Book of Ancient Secrets for utility and I picked up Poison instead of another spell he suggested so my Poison Invisible Assassin can now Shut down a situation with Silence and Mirror image to handle being seen in any situation... Sounds MUCH more Invisible assassin to me...and since I got my charisma to 20 I won't have to worry much about those checks, especially considering I have things like Boon of the Shape Shifter Ring and that disguise helm that I can use at any time to make up for that.
Also scratching his Faerie Fire choice for Arms of Hadar since this class is combat as a warlock it'll help reduce damage intake in those said nasty moments where I lose invis.
Worth mentioning I also dropped his suggestion on Repelling blast and chose One with Shadows.. it's better for hidden assassin build rather than pushing people...
And adjusted my Dex to 19 and Char to where I can get 18 and boost to 20 with Birthright Hat...
After all of this I noticed my Perception was -1 because of Wisdom being so low.. I went back and rerolled all the same above BUT at Level one I changed my Skills to the following:
Remove - Deception (I'm Wyll a good guy not a liar)
Add Perception, keep Acrobatics, Sleight of Hand, and Stealth, also maintain Persuasion because even good guys have to convince folks of the truth!
- Acrobatics +5 with 4/4
- Sleight of hand +5 with 4/4
- Stealth +7 with 4/4 and 2/2
- Perception +3 with 4/4 and 2/2
- Persuasion with +5 from 1/1
Hoping this will finally perfect this build!
Pact of the blade did not enhance charisma to attack but it made you Use Charisma instead of STR/DEX for bonus.
From what I've read, Pact uses whatever is highest of your spellcasting attributes. So if you instead had 20 INT or WIS, it would use that for attack and damage. If you aren't raising CHA though, the only reason to go this route would be for the extra attack it gives and to allow you to basically use any weapon you are proficient in with a different attack modifier. Which likely wouldn't be much if you are a Druid or Wizard. Could be moderately useful on an EK though maybe, although it still seems like a waste.
Would shadow monk/warlock work?
Thought this was about the weapon that lets you attack without breaking stealth.
is there a build like this without worlock but stil with Invisibility?
True sight go BRRRT
Wouldn’t pumping up your charisma be more important since part of the blade makes your weapon scale off charisma?
Yep I‘m confused too. Why would he push dex?
@@duskyroc6417 the only reason I can see is more AC? But you’re invisible the whole time so ac stacking is silly imo
The only thing I can think of is how dexterity increases stealth check saving throws
Yes but in that case, it's better to have the gloves that give 18 dex and boost cha IMO @@jasonhendricks4562
DING DING DING we have a winner, pumping charisma does not help your stealth checks@@jasonhendricks4562
pact of the blade adds charisma or replaces dex? as the added modifier ?
Replaces dex, you would basically want to flip your dex & cha scores in this build once you get pact of the blade
Great video! Terrible outro music, but great video nevertheless.
any tips for a more flushed out version of this? i feel like a lot of the stuff he says contradicts himself
Is it a huge deal if you start warlock?
Stack Charisma on this build instead but get Gloves of Agility so you still have enough Dex to pass stealth checks.
my man. you gotta reread and test how Pact of the Blade actually works. 😂
You can knock people out without resources or potions using non lethal toggle
Can you pick any race or does it need to be human? Just asking as I’m not sure thanks
he uses human to show it can be done with any race, however deep gnome gives you advantage on stealth checks so Don't need that chest piece, if I remember correctly halfling does as well but their lucky trait is still bugged (just retested it 3 hours ago) so there is no point in taking halfling.
This build, modded, gets even better. Try downloading Hexblade mod, take 4 rogue - 7 warlock - 1 rogue. U can eldritch smite twice per combat, 4 times per short rest, and since u're pact of the blade with hexblade, you also get an extra attack at lvl 9 (by the end of act 2).
You know you can tell us how to get the the amour without spoiling who aunty Ethel was right?
Aside from the mistake on what pact of the blade does and the screwy stat distribution because of that mistake, what is so bad about this build? I am new to the game so don't know what disadvantages it would have later in the game.
Reason I am asking is because I want to run Laz'eal, Gail and Shadowheart which means I need a high charisma face character that can sneak around in stealth and pick locks/pockets to round out the party. This build seems tailor made for that especially if you want some spell casting ability as well.
Then this build would work decently well for you atleast at the start; but once you get pact of the blade: highly reccomend respec as pact of the blade's charisma modifier to your weapons does NOT add the charisma modifier: it replaces the weapon mod. For example: say you do 10 dmg with 10 str on a weapon, with pact of the blade and 8 charisma, you would do only 8 dmg INSTEAD of 18 because it over writes the str scaling... I highly reccomend grabbing the dex gloves since they give you a set 18 dex at act 2. It'll save you some skill points
If you're new to the game, I don't think there is much point in following this build as, besides the mistakes with pact of the blade, it is built around items obtained later in a playthrough. There isn't really a substitute for that weapon elsewhere in the game, so you'd get more value building a more traditional Pact of the Blade warlock or Blaster Caster Warlock. For both versions you'd want to stack your Charisma to 20, pick up Agonizing Blast at Warlock 2 and either spam Eldritch Blasts with Hex or go in for melee attacks utilising your Pact Weapon. You can dump Strength once you get Warlock 3 Pact of the Blade.
@@RratRemi I'm just jumping on this comment thread to ask about my current build as well. I think I actually took it from this channel as well. I'm running a Bardlock which is using a melee weapon that utilizes Pact of the blade. Is this a good build? I have lots of charisma, and I'm planning on running a 9 bard 3 warlock.
Don't play a messy build like this one. Just play a classic warlock with eldrich blast, and save tieflings in act 1 and 2. alfira will give you an item that is just OP for eldrich blaster warlock in act 2. It will be way less messy, and easier to play. (don't go pact of the blade with that build, book is way better)
If you want something a little bit harder to play, but also more powerfull, play a tempest cleric 2 sorcerer 10 (storm or draconic blue). You just play like a classic caster, but when you are against a boss you cast create water on them followed by metamagic bonus action [your best lightning spell], and you use your channel divinity from tempest cleric for max damage. This will eather kill or almost kill anything in the game (in act 3, break into the mage shop, you'll get a staff that give you the best lightning spell in the game, which will compensate the 2 cleric levels that prevent you from having them)
@@RratRemi With his rapier, if he uses his 18 Dex (since it has the Finesse tag, it CAN use dex instead of Str) he has a +4 to accuracy (20% roughly, outside of Advantage rolls) and +4 to damage rolls.
By using Pact of the Weapon as you're aware it uses his 14 Charisma, turning that +4 into a +2 (10% accuracy and 2 damage).
Every 2 points on a stat add 1 to the modifier.
gotta love when you critical miss on something that cant see you lol.
This looks interesting but I think you missed the boat in a few places. Why on earth would you take Faerie Fire over Hex? Plus if you play a Drow, you get the former as a racial spell. I'll have to see if pact of the blade is actually better than pact of the chain. I've been playing a single classed Warlock and having the Imp and Quasit available at will is amazing. I suppose one could get the permanent Summon Cheeky Quasit would partially make up for it, but having the imp with mutiple attacks has saved the party on more than one occasion. It would also make it pretty trivial to gain advantage for sneak attack since having an invisible flying ally is kind of OP.
U do gotta consider that 6 months ago some spells were way stronger then others and some spells didnt work as intended
Would it not make mmore sense to not use pact weapon as the rapier should scale with dex?
This build would make more sense if they maxed charisma instead. Tho they could change starting stats to have 16 charisma, then wear the hat that adds 2 more from the sundries shop I think it was. Ten it's just a matter of adding 2 more to have that maxed.
You wouldn't get extra attack without pact boon. Also pact weapons are magical so it can bypass a lot of physical res. Overall probably better on average.
I'd go dex ASI x1 and charisma ASI x2 for 20/20... you still need the dex for utility and stealth checks and the charisma for pact weapon damage/hit or you could just wear the 18 dex gloves and use that on another feat.
@@matthagan2977 You could use a different chest piece to get both to 20. Start with 16 in both dex and cha, then put one ASI into each to hit 18, use the Graceful Cloth chest that adds 2 dex and the hat that adds 2 cha to hit 20 on each. You lose some armor and the iniiative bonus, but should still have the the stealth advantage since the Graceful cloth gives you a permanent Cat's grace buff, which is advantage on all dex checks.
or Gloves of Dexterity to set it to 18... there are not many good glove options for this build except maybe Legacy of the Masters or Martial Exertion gloves. That would free up 2 feats for Lucky & Savage Attacker. Taking the higher of your 2 attack rolls. (sneak attack & weapon). I'd also probably use an off hand weapon just for the buffs weapons provide, even if I'm not using it for the offhand attack. I'd think blade of the first blood would be useful just to apply vulnerable to piercing, +1AC and the reduction to critical chance -1 (offsets elegant duelist loss) @@jeffreylane2431.
You are gonna do less damage if you bind your pact weapon and go from 20 dex to 14 charisma. im confused
I had the same thought. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
it does let him get extra attack, but it feels like a waste really.
Same build works same way with 20 chr, some of these people making builds spend so long in the feats/equipment/classing that they miss smaller deets like thus that are usually pretty obvious to any of us with building experience in dnd or in other build heavy video games
@@AverageJ03Gaming yeah, I suspect it's also partly the need to put out content regularly that also contributes to these sorts of errors. Yeah 18 or 20 ChA, with 14 base dex should also work for it. Pass without a trace up makes the checks auto pass for 4 or 5 turns.
I’m so new to this world and its games. I appreciate all you guys discussing this.
No build would ever get nerfed, granted yes sometimes it does but it just wouldn't be in the spirit of the game to just do that
Well....I guess I'm screwed for the first 80% of the game before getting to act 3....
Yeah I done a darkness sneak attack comp, too easy. Ai bad when cant see or shoot you. Can kill people in middle of a crowd without raising alarm, you need to be careful with silence but you can cast darkness anywhere. And breaks Ai in a proper battle.
I played two cleric3/assassin9 with an oathbreaker and a druid of land (oathbreak + druid have darkness). Was supposed to be a difficult RP run as selune/shar believers. Too easy though, darkness sneak attacks were too strong.
Prolly gonna spec astarion into this
don't, just have a sorcerer cast greater invisibility on astarion (as a straight up 12 assassin), and you'll get a better build than that (sorcerer is important cause they can double the invisibility duration)
@@rorp24 ok I'll give it a go
IF you are running low charisma lock there is no point in having agonizing blast and eldritch blast itself. ago blast is adding you the whole 2 dmg a beam and you are missing the plus 3 to hit from from charisma. Your dc for your spell is trash. YOu should not hitting your blasts and landing fairy fires. I don't get it.... are you playing on explorer???
Why get an ASI that’s so boring. Why not defensive duelist for more survivability early on? Or more charisma for the pact weapon so you can be a better face of the party? I guess to each their own. I could probably use this on not my character. I need more utility
Yet another Act 3 only build. It's fine and all I guess, but if you actually want to play something like this before Act 3, get the sword in Act 2 that lowers your crit threshold to 19 and you can have another weapon in your offhand. You also have someone else cast Greater Invisibility on you, and you can also use the ring that has Pass Without Trace to make sure it never breaks.
Stat spread seems kind of goofy. If you are going to be Invisible more often than not, you should have 14 CON and at least 16 CHA. 14 CHA isn't really all that great if you plan on using Eldritch Blast much at all. Or any spells that target enemies for that matter. Seems like the only reason you even bothered with Warlock was for the extra attack. So why not just go Fighter instead and get Action Surge? You don't need Warlock for Greater Invisibility. Someone else can cast it on you. Your build seems like it's more for solo playing.
The damage on this build overall seems kind of trash though. Why not just go with 16 DEX 20 CHA and use Eldritch Blast instead? Hell, if it's just about enemies not being able to attack you, just cast Darkness on yourself and go to town with EB. You can also pair this with the Deathstalker Mantle. Honestly, the build looks like it could be fun, but Paladin/Warlock is much, much stronger overall and can pretty much do the same thing, and more.
Imma be real. I feel like you are better off 12 levels rogue. then get your caster to take greater invis to just put on your rogue. a lot more dps anyway cus of the larger sneak attack bonus. PLUS with the lv 11 skill where when u roll below a 10 it counts as a 10. U will never break stealth.
Thanks! Didn't even realize that. I just thought of it in terms of pick pocketing ease of use. (Not having to grab my withers alt with cat's grace.)
Make a pure rogue, halfling, dark gnome, or drow. Get ahold of two hand crossbows. Pick up sharpshooter feat at level 4. Have buffs from your cleric, wizard, items… you’ll be killing everything
Okay, so i wasn't the only one who thought of this. I actually put something like this together for an entire team.
Ain't it better going full charisma ? Cause pact weapon scales on charisma
Dex gives bonuses to stealth which might seem more important.
You can balance the dex and charisma with a +2 charisma hat and doing 1 dex and 1 charisma on one of the feat bonuses. Also when starting drop a bit of con and intelligence and you will start at 17 char, 16 dex, then in the end, 19 dex (+3 from bonus feat) and 20 char with Birthright hat (and +1 bonus feat). The 1 loss of dex will net you a bit more likely to break stealth earlier but the damage will be more with pact weapon at 20 charisma.
This is what I am trying for now!!
After all of this I noticed my Perception was -1 because of Wisdom being so low..
I went back and rerolled all the same above BUT at Level one I changed my Skills to the following:
Remove - Deception (I'm Wyll a good guy not a liar)
Add Perception, keep Acrobatics, Sleight of Hand, and Stealth, also maintain Persuasion because even good guys have to convince folks of the truth!
- Acrobatics +5 with 4/4
- Sleight of hand +5 with 4/4
- Stealth +7 with 4/4 and 2/2
- Perception +3 with 4/4 and 2/2
- Persuasion with +5 from 1/1
@@confusedseth doesnt the hat allow u to hit 22 chrs tho?
I would like to drop 1 lvl in rogue and start as a fighter for con save proficiency, all armours and martial weapons (war cleric is also tempting but the bonus action is used heavily already.) I played it as a lightfoot halfling too so i was not restricted to items to achieve advantage on stealth and for the lucky bonus for keeping in stealth.
Greater Invisibilty is actually nerfed in BG3, you don’t need to roll stealth in 5e. You just stay invisible until the spell ends. I doubt this will be nerfed.
In 5e you could also to similar with Darkness over Greater Invisibility, as you can cast it like Light, having it follow you, giving you Advantage on hit because of Devil’s Sight.
Also, Pact of the Blade with 14 Charisma ? 😅
It doesn’t give bonus damage, it changes your scaling...
Not to mention the EBlasts with that low Cha...
just give invis to your rogue
Makes no sense pumping points to dex instead of charisma if you choose pact of the blade.
It does if you want to pass your stealth checks, but with items available I would do a respec at some point and min max it. You would use pact until you have 5 in warlock for the extra attack the way he builds it.
Again the builds forvend game is an bit wierd as when you got the lvls and gear your almost done with the game.
Don't you only get 1 sneak attack per turn?
does this guy know that One With Shadows has unlimited usage per rest?
It gives a small invisibility that disappears after first attack. Greater invis gives you a chance to save invis with stealth checks.
@@user-bq1dz8dt7r you're getting it in the first 15 minutes of the game and it basically can reset/sneak out/save any combat any time, infinite usage. Great invis is nothing even close as you only getting it in the midgame.
@@asv1452 im killing 3-5 foes in G.invis before battle starts. And another 3-5 in a battle. So...i dont think it is "nothing".
@@user-bq1dz8dt7r how does it work at level 5 for you?
Why not get 22 charisma and just a decent 18 dex as rogue 4 warlock 8 with the hat.
Horribly wrong information below.
(At that point just get Great Weapon Master for +10 damage every swing rather than another ASI, he's two handing a rapier after all and by hiding you have advantage.)
Not every feat choice has to be ASI for your damage to increase...
@@justanotherLunny It doesn't work that way. Firstly, Great Weapon Master's -5/+10 portion only applies to Heavy melee weapons. A rapier lacks the heavy property. Secondly, you can't "two hand" a rapier. It lacks the versatile property. When you are dealing with finesse melee weapons, ASIs are pretty much the only feat options that increase damage. You and Hollow both could probably benefit from slowing down and reading the features a little bit more closely.
@@Ender7heXenocide2112 I could swear Rapiers were versatile... that's my mistake then.
The other part however is what multiple people have said actually works in BG3. It doesn't make sense to me that a Longsword could be used with GWM as it specifically says Heavy, but that's what's been reported.
@@justanotherLunny wow! I had not heard that long swords were working for GWM in BG3. In DnD they do not work because, even though they are versatile, they aren’t heavy. The rules will not allow GWM to work. It’s sounding like Larian made it so that any weapon being wielded with 2 hands counts for the purposes of GWM. Still won’t work for a rapier, but it does now allow for Dex based GWM builds as there are finesse long swords in the game. Interesting change by Larian.
@@Ender7heXenocide2112 I double checked in game, level 4 barbarian w/ Longsword and GWM. The -5 to hit and +10 to damage do apply 'correctly' (it is still crazy that it does work at all, the feat very specifically says 'Heavy' weapons).
I was completely off the rapier getting the versatile tag though, so thank you very much for correcting me so quickly!
Didnt show background. Refunded game on steam.
that spoiler on the hag was not cool
Great video but por execution
As someone that has 300 hours + on a warlock on tactician this is not a good build
sorry, build that gonna work in act 3 is not good build. it's frustrating to start with and is only a curiosity to check out in late game. also +1 to comments about cha and ago blast+pact. nevertheless interesting idea for tabletop.
also! spoiler alert man! ;)
...or just play Assassin 11/Whatever 1 and have one of the party member spellcasters cast Greater Invisibility starting at lvl 7 and on.
Remember, this is a coop game.
yeah, just go assassin 11 with the pass without trace ring and a party member that is a sorcerer for double duration on greater invisibility
Nah the game is way too easy if you play with more than one character, IMO after the first playthough the only way to make the game challenging at all is solo
This needs a spoilers warning...
This build does not work quite the way portrayed in the video. I don't think it was playtested.
I feel like a lot of this creators on here with “builds” have never played 5e. getting “nerfed” “OP build here!” Everything in 5e is playable, and once you hit a certain level, you’re OP no matter what. This translates over to BG3 too. I also feel like this creator here is confused how certain mechanics work.
This video drones on and on about nothing and never really explains in detail why he's remaining in stealth which is the core of the build... Maybe if you already understand BG3 or dnd 5e then you already understand it? kinda dumb otherwise.
What a terrible build, it’s so sad that TH-cam is filled with such garbage builds from people who don’t understand the game, but the videos hang in the top of TH-cam. After this, some genius will appear and declare that I am toxic.