Thank you for the excellent video. Very comprehensive and non bias test. Can be considered to be scientific too, same ink same paper and no modification on the nib. Excellent 👍 job.
As many have commented, this was a fantastic and useful video. I am trying to decide between these three nobs and your video is exactly what I needed. Thank you for your time and effort .
Good review, although limited by low sample size. Ideally this should be done with several nibs of each make to account for variability, quite large in low-priced nibs. In general, the conclusion seems correct: Jowo nibs tend to be better than both counterparts. A couple notes here: 1) Scratchyness and feedback are physically different degrees of the same thing. Feedback is a small scratchiness, inevitable and tolerable when small. Interestingly, the scores of 'scratchyness' and feedback at the end turn out to be the same. 2) Wetness and flexibility tend to partially compensate for lack of smoothness and disguise it. For instance, the Bock nib was a little less smooth than Jowo, but considering it is much wetter, it means that its difference in (lack of) smoothness is larger than perceived. 3) An important feature in nibs is sensitivity to small angles of rotation. A poorly tuned nib may appear quite smooth at a very restricted angle - its 'sweet spot'. It becomes scratchy as soon as you deviate from it. This is often perceived as scratchiness or excessive feedback. Admittedly, it is hard to measure, but when that nib is correctly polished, it immediately appears smoother. And.. 4) Lastly, any nib can be made excellent and better than any otber brand if tuned and ground correctly. Given tbe high variability, this would overcome any difference in 'out of tbe box' quality grading.
Good review, although limited by low sample size. Ideally this sould be done with several nibs of each make to account for variability, quite large in low-priced nibs. In general, the conclusion iseems to me corect: Jowo nibs tend to be better than both counterparts. A couple notes here: 1) Scratchyness and feedback are physically different degrees of the same thing. Feedback is a small scratchiness, inevitable and tolerable when small. Interestingly, the scores of 'scratchyness' and feedback at the end turn out to be the same. 2) Wetness and flexibility tend to partially compensate for lack of smoothness and disguise it. For instance, the Bock nib was a little less smooth than Jowo, but considering it is much wetter, it means that its difference in (lack of) smoothness is larger than perceived. 3) An important feature in nibs is sensitivity to small angles of rotation. A poorly tuned nib may appear quite smooth at a very restricted angle - its 'sweet spot'. It becomes scratchy as soon as you deviate from it. This is often perceived as scratchiness or excessive feedback. Admittedly, it is hard to measure, but when that nib is correctly polished, it immediately appears smoother. Thanks, would be nice to repeat the test with a few more random samples.
Excellent comparison, thank you. I think one of my favorite nibs is a Kaweco Bock from before they switched, but overall I think Jowo are more consistent in quality. Not sure if I have any Schmidt nibs yet. Between these, what is your personal favorite, and where would you rank Kanwrite?
Thank you, very helpful and exactly what I was looking for. Out of interest, have you ever made a similar set of comparisons between these and the stock/mainstream steel nibs made in-house by Pilot and Lamy? I have my own ideas based on my 700+ (yikes!) pen collection, but it would be interesting to get your thoughts.
@@drfountainpens1521 The Pilot nibs might be a reasonable comparison as they are closer to a size 5 than the Lamy. I was thinking though that it's more of a general matter. Lots of folks will own Lamy and Pilot but may be curious about how a generic 5/6 nib will compare. I have pens with Bock, Schmidt and Jowo nibs but it's never been a deciding factor for me so far, whether to buy a particular pen. If they're using one of these three then it tells me they have a probably higher concern for quality control, but perhaps I should be more selective.
hello doc !! thanks for your videos , they are very informative. Have you purchased guider capsule fountain pen ? It comes with the Schmidt nib and its hand made ebonite fountain pen . thanks !!
I didn't think Schmidt made nibs. I was told they just put their name on Bock or Jowo nibs. I swap Bock number 6 nibs on to Jinhao X750 pens. I buy them here in the UK from Beaufort inks. I use fine and 1.1 calligraphy nibs mostly. All are excellent.
I'm curious. These three brands of nibs, are you using them in Indian made fountain pens? These are my favorite pens, especially black ebonite. They write with a quality that I have never known. If you could increase your volume. I am going to sub you now. Brilliant show, you've made.
nice video !!! i have zeroed in on gama pens, as one its indian brand two it has a very long legacy three very nice customer reviews. but when it comes to selecting nib i feel its individual choice does gama have anyway to checkit out before buying? thanks
Nice and helpful video. Yes Schmidt nibs are also available in rhodium finishes. It would be helpful to add Kanwrite to the mix as a lot of Indian buyers have these four options available to them most times.
@@drfountainpens1521 yes totally agree on this their different batches have different characteristics but at that price point i simply don't complaint.
Jowo nibs are relatively smooth to write with. Lamy safari in medium and broad. Pilot Prera is pretty good as well. Else try gold nibs. Pilot 74/912/91 in broad are nice. Lamy 2k too is smooth.
@@drfountainpens1521 thank you! I'm currently using a Lamy vista in medium and it's buttery smooth. Was wondering which other pens (preferably cheaper) would have a similar level of smoothness. Gold nibs are out of my budget, alas!
+Santosh Pai Getting spare nibs is difficult here in India. Kanwrite nibs used to be available on Amazon, but not for the last year. You can get "Serwex" ( brass) nibs there- these are Fine nibs, and small. (not No.6) Some very ordinary nibs are available @ penhouse.in. These too are of small size, not no.6. There are some old style pen service shops in some cities who do stock nibs.(eg. Meenakshi Stores, opp. Balaji Mandir, Avenue Road, Bangalore; Pen Center Guntur.) They do have nibs- but you have to visit and choose. I am sure there must be such places in Mumbai, Kolkata, Delhi, also. I recently saw an announcement on the Website of Ambitious nib company that their nibs would be available soon- how soon, no one knows. These Indian companies are poor in communication- they do not care to reply to your mails. If you have friends in these cities, you may try through them. Good Luck.
@@nanjappa42 Mr. Sandeep Awasthi is one of the owners of Kanwrite Pens. He is a nice person and his mobile No. is 9305456599. I have ordered pens and nibs from him directly. He offers semi flex nibs - that are comparable to the Omniflex nib by Conklin.
@@kheharlawassociates3222 Yes sir, I fully agree with you. Initially there was some difficulty in communicating with Kanwrite. But I got Sri Awasthi's number from some correspondent online and could contact him. He sent me the whole catalogue of his products, pens and nibs. I have since obtained many nibs from him. He is a very nice person, and attends to all mails himself. That is very kind of him. I have found that Kanwrite nibs are very good-AS GOOD AS SOME GERMAN NIBS LIKE JOWO AND SCHMIDT. This is my personal experience-not opinion! I entirely agree with you.
Thats good question. I was thinking the same. But then left it out as I thought maybe it's not being offered across many platforms so there would be less curiosity about it. I will update you shortly or make a separate video about it.
Kanwrite nibs are good. They are reported to make nibs for Indian pen brands like Gama, ASA and some others. The nibs in Gama pens (mostly Indian Fine- which is between European Fine and Medium) are very good. The ASA gives you options of F. M or B -which are all equally good. Unfortunately, it is difficult to buy these nibs in the open market. Amazon used to sell some Kanwrite nibs on line, but they have not been available for more than a year now. ASA sells extra nibs with some models of their pens. 'Ambitious'- another Indian brand is also a good nib, but that too is difficult to get in the open market.
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This is the sort of review I've been looking for, and no one else has covered. Most helpful.
Thank you for the excellent video. Very comprehensive and non bias test. Can be considered to be scientific too, same ink same paper and no modification on the nib. Excellent 👍 job.
Your channel has become one of my favorites. Surprisingly it never came in my recommended list.
As many have commented, this was a fantastic and useful video.
I am trying to decide between these three nobs and your video is exactly what I needed.
Thank you for your time and effort .
Very helpful, thorough and comprehensive. Thanks for this test!
\Many thanks for a clear and informative video. It answered questions I had, and even those I hadn't thought of!
Finally I found the review that answers it all. Thanks bhai.
Very helpful. Great break out of three common nib manufactures and comparison of specs. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
Good review, although limited by low sample size. Ideally this should be done with several nibs of each make to account for variability, quite large in low-priced nibs.
In general, the conclusion seems correct: Jowo nibs tend to be better than both counterparts. A couple notes here:
1) Scratchyness and feedback are physically different degrees of the same thing. Feedback is a small scratchiness, inevitable and tolerable when small. Interestingly, the scores of 'scratchyness' and feedback at the end turn out to be the same.
2) Wetness and flexibility tend to partially compensate for lack of smoothness and disguise it. For instance, the Bock nib was a little less smooth than Jowo, but considering it is much wetter, it means that its difference in (lack of) smoothness is larger than perceived.
3) An important feature in nibs is sensitivity to small angles of rotation. A poorly tuned nib may appear quite smooth at a very restricted angle - its 'sweet spot'. It becomes scratchy as soon as you deviate from it. This is often perceived as scratchiness or excessive feedback. Admittedly, it is hard to measure, but when that nib is correctly polished, it immediately appears smoother. And..
4) Lastly, any nib can be made excellent and better than any otber brand if tuned and ground correctly. Given tbe high variability, this would overcome any difference in 'out of tbe box' quality grading.
Can you please do the same with fine nibs and if possible a companion of medium and fine of each brand...
I'm a JoWo fan, thru and thru. I've tried every #5 size on my Moonman M2 and the JoWo just out performs all of them
Excellent Review, First time i am listening to this Channel and its awesome
This is a good exercise. The nib performance changes with ink too. So, you must try the same nibs with different inks.
Good review, although limited by low sample size. Ideally this sould be done with several nibs of each make to account for variability, quite large in low-priced nibs.
In general, the conclusion iseems to me corect: Jowo nibs tend to be better than both counterparts. A couple notes here:
1) Scratchyness and feedback are physically different degrees of the same thing. Feedback is a small scratchiness, inevitable and tolerable when small. Interestingly, the scores of 'scratchyness' and feedback at the end turn out to be the same.
2) Wetness and flexibility tend to partially compensate for lack of smoothness and disguise it. For instance, the Bock nib was a little less smooth than Jowo, but considering it is much wetter, it means that its difference in (lack of) smoothness is larger than perceived.
3) An important feature in nibs is sensitivity to small angles of rotation. A poorly tuned nib may appear quite smooth at a very restricted angle - its 'sweet spot'. It becomes scratchy as soon as you deviate from it. This is often perceived as scratchiness or excessive feedback. Admittedly, it is hard to measure, but when that nib is correctly polished, it immediately appears smoother.
Thanks, would be nice to repeat the test with a few more random samples.
Excellent technical summary and comparison. Thank you. :-)
Excellent comparison, thank you. I think one of my favorite nibs is a Kaweco Bock from before they switched, but overall I think Jowo are more consistent in quality. Not sure if I have any Schmidt nibs yet.
Between these, what is your personal favorite, and where would you rank Kanwrite?
Thank you for a most informative review!
Thank you very much for your information, and organized way of displaying the information.
Superb review and comparison - I learned a lot from your video. Thank you!
Thank you comparing the three nibs. Very helpful.
Actually, the left and right page also differ in smoothness.
You should have carried them all on same side..
Love this, very helpful thank-you!
This is an excellent and most helpful video. Thank you.
Super helpful! Thank you so much for making this 😃
This is a great video. I liked the clear summary at the end. Thanks!
A very valuable comparison indeed.
Thank you, very helpful and exactly what I was looking for. Out of interest, have you ever made a similar set of comparisons between these and the stock/mainstream steel nibs made in-house by Pilot and Lamy? I have my own ideas based on my 700+ (yikes!) pen collection, but it would be interesting to get your thoughts.
Hello.. 700!!! Wow.
I can do that but the sizes do differ. So would it be fair to compare? Size 6 with 5
@@drfountainpens1521 The Pilot nibs might be a reasonable comparison as they are closer to a size 5 than the Lamy. I was thinking though that it's more of a general matter. Lots of folks will own Lamy and Pilot but may be curious about how a generic 5/6 nib will compare. I have pens with Bock, Schmidt and Jowo nibs but it's never been a deciding factor for me so far, whether to buy a particular pen. If they're using one of these three then it tells me they have a probably higher concern for quality control, but perhaps I should be more selective.
Thank you. This is a very useful and helpful review.
Beautiful pens too. Great content. Thanks.
hello doc !! thanks for your videos , they are very informative. Have you purchased guider capsule fountain pen ? It comes with the Schmidt nib and its hand made ebonite fountain pen . thanks !!
Bought a guider pen ?
How's it performing?
Thx for picking up the coin 👍
I didn't think Schmidt made nibs. I was told they just put their name on Bock or Jowo nibs.
I swap Bock number 6 nibs on to Jinhao X750 pens. I buy them here in the UK from Beaufort inks.
I use fine and 1.1 calligraphy nibs mostly. All are excellent.
Great review (summary @ 6:52) Can you tell me how the Asa nibs compare to these?
Extremely clear review
Fantastic review...very helpful
Can you do a video on Ranga bock and jowo nibs?
I'm curious. These three brands of nibs, are you using them in Indian made fountain pens? These are my favorite pens, especially black ebonite. They write with a quality that I have never known. If you could increase your volume. I am going to sub you now. Brilliant show, you've made.
Like the video and agree with you the number 5 nibs might yield a different result what do you think
Very helpful, Thanks a lot.
nice video !!! i have zeroed in on gama pens, as one its indian brand two it has a very long legacy three very nice customer reviews. but when it comes to selecting nib i feel its individual choice does gama have anyway to checkit out before buying? thanks
Only pen meets.
@@drfountainpens1521 ok thank you
Very interesting and useful Thanks
This was perfect thanks!
I thinnk at today,Yowo made the best steel nibs
Gj.
Nice and helpful video.
Yes Schmidt nibs are also available in rhodium finishes.
It would be helpful to add Kanwrite to the mix as a lot of Indian buyers have these four options available to them most times.
Thanks. One more reason of not including Kanwrite is slight inconsistencies I faced in the nibs I had.
Kanwrite should be added too in your another video.....Its a must. Its most popular in India
@@drfountainpens1521 yes totally agree on this their different batches have different characteristics but at that price point i simply don't complaint.
Where to buy these nibs? They r not on Amazon.
Hi thanks for your video. How would you quickly rate a jowo #6 fine vs medium. Is fine size comparable to medium for smaller nibs? Thanks in advance!
Looking to replace my nibs for a moonman s5 and jinhao ..If you had to which one would you choose? And are kanwrite nibs comparable?
Thanks a lot.
Can you tell us the nib tipping size of the #6 Jowo steel nib. Is it around 0.7 mm?
Hi sir, I was wondering what are good smooth nibs offered in India? As all these three seem to be fairly high on the feedback.
Jowo nibs are relatively smooth to write with. Lamy safari in medium and broad. Pilot Prera is pretty good as well. Else try gold nibs. Pilot 74/912/91 in broad are nice. Lamy 2k too is smooth.
@@drfountainpens1521 thank you! I'm currently using a Lamy vista in medium and it's buttery smooth. Was wondering which other pens (preferably cheaper) would have a similar level of smoothness. Gold nibs are out of my budget, alas!
Very helpful video.
Can you help me? Where can I find Bock nibs no 6? Also I need an adequate sized feed? I tried ASA, but he has only JoWO
Try Beaufortink.co.uk
Am looking at buying Lamy Aion and lamy studio pen...where can I get a good deal.
Thanks
where to buy Bock nibs?
Very helpful!!! what is your favorite?
Thanks :)
Leaning towards Jowo
Please tell me about the pens. Thanks.
great
From where i can purchase these pens in india
where can i buy these nib units in India?
Are you a leprechaun ?
You seem to be dropping coins left and right.
Thanks for the comparisons.
That's my kids :)
From where can you buy spare/extra nibs? Pl guide
I doubt if someone sells spare nibs in India.
@@drfountainpens1521 ok..but may I pls know from where do you buy nibs from
+Santosh Pai Getting spare nibs is difficult here in India. Kanwrite nibs used to be available on Amazon, but not for the last year. You can get "Serwex" ( brass) nibs there- these are Fine nibs, and small. (not No.6) Some very ordinary nibs are available @ penhouse.in. These too are of small size, not no.6.
There are some old style pen service shops in some cities who do stock nibs.(eg. Meenakshi Stores, opp. Balaji Mandir, Avenue Road, Bangalore; Pen Center Guntur.) They do have nibs- but you have to visit and choose. I am sure there must be such places in Mumbai, Kolkata, Delhi, also.
I recently saw an announcement on the Website of Ambitious nib company that their nibs would be available soon- how soon, no one knows.
These Indian companies are poor in communication- they do not care to reply to your mails. If you have friends in these cities, you may try through them. Good Luck.
@@nanjappa42 Mr. Sandeep Awasthi is one of the owners of Kanwrite Pens. He is a nice person and his mobile No. is 9305456599. I have ordered pens and nibs from him directly. He offers semi flex nibs - that are comparable to the Omniflex nib by Conklin.
@@kheharlawassociates3222 Yes sir, I fully agree with you. Initially there was some difficulty in communicating with Kanwrite. But I got Sri Awasthi's number from some correspondent online and could contact him. He sent me the whole catalogue of his products, pens and nibs. I have since obtained many nibs from him. He is a very nice person, and attends to all mails himself. That is very kind of him. I have found that Kanwrite nibs are very good-AS GOOD AS SOME GERMAN NIBS LIKE JOWO AND SCHMIDT. This is my personal experience-not opinion! I entirely agree with you.
What about Kanwrite compared to them?
Thats good question. I was thinking the same. But then left it out as I thought maybe it's not being offered across many platforms so there would be less curiosity about it. I will update you shortly or make a separate video about it.
Kanwrite nibs are good. They are reported to make nibs for Indian pen brands like Gama, ASA and some others. The nibs in Gama pens (mostly Indian Fine- which is between European Fine and Medium) are very good. The ASA gives you options of F. M or B -which are all equally good. Unfortunately, it is difficult to buy these nibs in the open market. Amazon used to sell some Kanwrite nibs on line, but they have not been available for more than a year now. ASA sells extra nibs with some models of their pens.
'Ambitious'- another Indian brand is also a good nib, but that too is difficult to get in the open market.
There's no such thing as a Schmidt nib. Some Schmidt nibs are made by JoWo, and some are made by Bock. None are made by Schmidt.
Please correct you microphone, it really pains if heard from headphone.
Very edifying. Please speak up. Thank you!