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THE GREAT ONE: How The 1988 Wayne Gretzky Trade Is Still Evolving Today | NHL Trade Trees

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  • Steve Dangle takes a look back at the biggest trade in NHL History! Take a look at how the 1988 Wayne Gretzky Trade from the Edmonton Oilers to the Los Angeles Kings is still evolving to this day.
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  • @SteveDangle
    @SteveDangle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +705

    CLARIFICATION: Some people have messaged me about Shayne Corson for Curtis Joseph, which isn’t in this trade tree. The reason for that is Corson signed an offer sheet. I should’ve mentioned it as a footnote (it’s still a 51-min video lol) but it’s not officially part of the tree.
    There’s also a pick (15th overall, 1997) involved in the CuJo/Corson saga. Ironically it ended up with LA because St. Louis sent it to the Kings so they could get Gretzky!
    It’s a neat footnote, for sure! But not part of the tree.

    • @EarAche123
      @EarAche123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nitpickers.... Great job Steve!

    • @matthewdigiacomo2580
      @matthewdigiacomo2580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah ... as I understand it, the Oilers got two first-round picks from St. Louis as compensation for losing Corson and then traded those picks back to St. Louis for Curtis Joseph and Mike Grier.

    • @thegamingconnoisseur4151
      @thegamingconnoisseur4151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've never been so invested in trade tree history, since I watched you talk about them.

    • @SteveDangle
      @SteveDangle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@matthewdigiacomo2580 Might be worth its own video

    • @blairgreenwood9435
      @blairgreenwood9435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not understanding why you wouldn't include it? Corson was an RFA, Oilers got 2 pics in compensation, immediately traded back for Cujo and Mike Grier. Much more legit than continuing after Jari Kurri was involved in a trade. Cujo legit won them 2 playoff series, Grier was a major contributor for 6 years, and you can throw in Stortini who was a guy for 4ish seasons.

  • @ericveneto1593
    @ericveneto1593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +849

    I find it HILARIOUS that the draft picks near the bottom HADN'T BEEN BORN when the original trade was made!

    • @khuo0219
      @khuo0219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Literally every tree would look like that at some point right, unless trading stopped, you can always extend the horizon

    • @Hisdudeness9500
      @Hisdudeness9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@khuo0219 Super uncommon, definitely not literally every trade tree. Eventually you get players who either leave via free agency, retire with the team, or bust out and never leave the minors. The Lindros tree was gargantuan, and every single branch ultimately terminated, and that happened over half a decade after this one. That's what makes this so notable.

  • @SloppyPainter
    @SloppyPainter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +687

    You know your a good hockey player when a country's LITERAL GOVERNMENT are like, "Nah he's gotta stay in Canada."

    • @michaelparsons3905
      @michaelparsons3905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      The Brazilian government did this with Pele interestingly enough

    • @juhojalonen3046
      @juhojalonen3046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@michaelparsons3905 Pele did hockey too?!

    • @averagejosh6699
      @averagejosh6699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@juhojalonen3046 that was almost kinda funny

    • @josiahharrison9843
      @josiahharrison9843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You’re

  • @aesirshero2490
    @aesirshero2490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    Summer of 1988 my cousin, who is a DIE HARD Oilers fan, broke his femur. My mom went to go visit him in the hospital, walked in the room and saw him crying. My mom thought he was in pain or discomfort due to how he had to lay in the bed. He replied to my mom "no, my leg is fine BUT THEY TRADED GRETZKY!" My cousin calls this one of the worst summers of his life, and will never forgive Pocklington for trading him.

    • @manzac112
      @manzac112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Was he happy after the Oilers won the cup in 1990?

    • @payrysdoscs4903
      @payrysdoscs4903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😢

  • @DavePainkiller
    @DavePainkiller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    My God... The Gretzky Trade helped Tampa win the Cup in 2020... This was insane to watch.

    • @scotttribout1150
      @scotttribout1150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And the Blues in 2019

    • @iamyou2303
      @iamyou2303 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@scotttribout1150 and the bolts in 2021

    • @scotttribout1150
      @scotttribout1150 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I still think it's cool that this trade tree in an off beat kinda way also ties into the Scott Stevens drama in St. Louis as well.

    • @drizzt102
      @drizzt102 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This trade tree is a mad ride and I love it

    • @WithScienceAsMySheperd
      @WithScienceAsMySheperd ปีที่แล้ว

      and it implicated a star and another 1st pick...
      @30:00 Alexandre Daigle... in 1998 briefly dated Pamela Anderson in her prime.
      Daigle was a star 1st pick that fizzled.

  • @danielcotnoir8230
    @danielcotnoir8230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +667

    Oh god it’s happening everyone stay calm. The biggest and longest trade in nhl history

    • @jasonbrand1984
      @jasonbrand1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      the Scott Stevens trade tree is still alive and kicking.

    • @Serenessl1994
      @Serenessl1994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Erik lindros was bigger

    • @CMac64JayCee123
      @CMac64JayCee123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Daniel, you should feel honoured to get a heart from Sportsnet.

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rick Martin 1981 trade is still alive. The trade of Ryan O’Reilly to the Blues sprouted a new branch.

    • @893263007
      @893263007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Kent Nilsson
      trade was 1985, and that just ended this year.

  • @caseycheatum1292
    @caseycheatum1292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    RIP this trade tree (1988-2022)

  • @viper1120
    @viper1120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    Has anyone told Marcus Phillips or Drake Rymsha that they are directly linked to Wayne Gretzky? No pressure boys.

    • @WelziFC7
      @WelziFC7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      They for sure know at this point. But just to be sure headed to Instagram and letting them know

    • @tolman33
      @tolman33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indirectly, but yes

    • @mrfashizleboy9486
      @mrfashizleboy9486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WelziFC7 haha. I looked and saw ur comment

    • @PetterHughes
      @PetterHughes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually they're both linked to Marty Mcsorley. Just look at the overview of the trade tree

    • @tktktk47
      @tktktk47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WelziFC7 i commented too lol

  • @johnciolfi5085
    @johnciolfi5085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Follow-up: Drake Rymsha was let go by the Kings following the 2020-21 season. Markus Phillips was traded to Winnipeg in March 2022 for Nelson Nogier, who is currently a UFA, so unless he re-signs with LA, the trade tree is finished.

    • @MadMikeSportsYT
      @MadMikeSportsYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Which he did.

    • @ShinyMew76
      @ShinyMew76 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The trade tree is alive, but only hanging on by a thread

    • @JohnBDA4
      @JohnBDA4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShinyMew76 I believe it is NOW finished. Nogier is in the KHL after reaching free agency.

    • @goody1326
      @goody1326 ปีที่แล้ว

      If cernak or Mcnabb get traded wouldn’t that reopen the tree?

    • @matthewknetsch1964
      @matthewknetsch1964 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goody1326 It would not be the Kings trading them so no, it would not part of this trade tree

  • @Scorponox
    @Scorponox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    This is an incredibly well researched video. I don't usually watch a 50 minute video in one sitting but you managed to make it interesting enough for me to sit through all of it.

    • @Trollololololful
      @Trollololololful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't even follow hockey that much, I barely know any of these guys and I watched the whole thing.

    • @busfahrer09
      @busfahrer09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Trollololololful I never watched an NHL game my entire life and watched the whole thing. I dont even know what position Gretzky played lol.
      #LockdownMadeMedoIt

    • @Trollololololful
      @Trollololololful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@busfahrer09 Check out EmpLemon's video on Dale Earnhardt.

    • @busfahrer09
      @busfahrer09 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Trollololololful that's the Nascar dude, right? Never watched that but I love 'Days of Thunder' with Tom Cruise, I'm on it lol.

    • @busfahrer09
      @busfahrer09 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Trollololololful that's the Nascar dude, right? Never watched that but I love 'Days of Thunder' with Tom Cruise, I'm on it lol.

  • @dabisu4104
    @dabisu4104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    42:22 Fun Fact: Geordie Wudrick holds the record for most points in an Australian Ice Hockey League season with 91 in 28 games in 2018 with the Sydney Ice Dogs who would go on to win the Goodall Cup. Crazy how a footnote here is a hero across the globe.

    • @WithScienceAsMySheperd
      @WithScienceAsMySheperd ปีที่แล้ว

      and it implicated a star and another 1st pick...
      @30:00 Alexandre Daigle... in 1998 briefly dated Pamela Anderson in her prime.
      Daigle was a star 1st pick that fizzled.

  • @darrelljones2466
    @darrelljones2466 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Steve the Gretzky trade tree officially ended September 6 2022

  • @dremin15
    @dremin15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Imagine being an offshoot of the Gretzky trade and playing in the SPHL.

    • @higgy04
      @higgy04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Let alone a FIRST ROUND draft pick!!

  • @joec318
    @joec318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    Imagine Wayne Gretzky playing on the same line as Pavel Bure.

    • @TheAmazingCrazyguy75
      @TheAmazingCrazyguy75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Fun fact he wanted to I believe he tried to get the Rangers to trade for Bure and has even said in the past that had the Rangers got Bure he(Gretzky) wouldn't of retired.

    • @Seriously_Unserious
      @Seriously_Unserious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      How about Gretzky and Mario Lemieux playing on the same line. It happened in the 1987 Canada Cup. Gretzky and Lemieux took turns being the other guy's fire hydrant tipping in the other's brilliant passes. Want assists? Just give the puck to Lemieux and watch the magic on ice happen. Want a goal? Just give Gretzky a half a passing lane and have your stick on the ice ready to receive. the 2 best players of 1987 on the same line. Goalie's worst nightmare!

    • @Zalwalloo
      @Zalwalloo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheAmazingCrazyguy75 wouldn't have*

    • @patrickrusso9919
      @patrickrusso9919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was thinking the same thing

    • @Streetkillz13
      @Streetkillz13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Seriously_Unserious Who was the third player on that line?

  • @thinkingjack
    @thinkingjack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    “No one can stop the Edmonton Oilers.....except the Edmonton Oilers”

  • @angussmith8466
    @angussmith8466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Holy crap, I've genuinely never even given a second thought to if this trade was still happening. crazy to think that waves are still being made 30+ years later.

  • @PetterHughes
    @PetterHughes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    Is there a PDF version of the trade tree? I want to see the entire trade tree and zoom in in each part

    • @MrLT3685
      @MrLT3685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yes! holy cow I didn't even know I want that,but I totally do. I could sit with that thing for hours.

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or a large SVG image! I’m gonna need a 55-inch TV to view that tree!

    • @Dudeness1994
      @Dudeness1994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrLT3685 if you get the dude from the elections and the board then it would be fire

    • @jpfr624
      @jpfr624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      would love the pdf/image from production!

    • @maxegerer2157
      @maxegerer2157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They should sell these trees as table mats

  • @Kryptekah
    @Kryptekah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    If Gretzky can get traded; Anyone can get traded

    • @pkayfire3701
      @pkayfire3701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🙄

    • @kronnwalled_55_93
      @kronnwalled_55_93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yea but back then isn’t today . Crosbys, mcdavids, ovi’s, mackinnons never

    • @Kimchi203010
      @Kimchi203010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      nope. i cant

    • @dankurach5340
      @dankurach5340 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      99 likes, can’t like it so I’ll comment.

    • @colehanna4040
      @colehanna4040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gretzky was sold

  • @manzac112
    @manzac112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    Unfortunately, the Edmonton Oilers went on to win a Stanley Cup without Wayne Gretzky, while the Kings couldn't win with Wayne Gretzky; however, it did help expand hockey in the American market with the Wayne Gretzky trade.

    • @PolishCarbon
      @PolishCarbon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      So from this trade the biggest winner is not Edmonton, not LA but NHL itself

    • @Peqqy
      @Peqqy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @qwertyuiopasdfghjkl Or that Edmonton had a better core of players than La Kings. I wonder which that could be...

    • @manzac112
      @manzac112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@PolishCarbon Everybody won . Although they lost Wayne Gretzky the oilers found key pieces of their depth through the young assets that they got and the 15 million dollars that they used. Not to mention, Ranford was a freaking monster that year when Grant Fuhr got hurt. Mark Messier legit proved himself as the greatest leader in NHL history, when he won the Hart Trophy and his team won the Stanley Cup without Gretzky. Not to mention, it was against the President's Trophy winning Boston Bruins. Ever since the Golden Line retired in LA, the Los Angeles Kings were literally a doormat in the NHL. After they got Wayne Gretzky and one of his best teammates in McSorley, everybody wanted to see the Kings and finally garnered most, if not all, of the credibility they lost, even though they didn't win the Cup. The NHL won because they can legit prove that the hockey can work in the American market, if a team is placed at the right place at the right time. Arizona and Florida are failed experiments and they should move for the betterment of both franchises.

    • @PR0MOTE
      @PR0MOTE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Can’t forget that Dustin Penner Playoff year impact though! Lol

    • @manzac112
      @manzac112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Peqqy That really showed in that 1988 and 1990 playoff matchups. Back in the 1988-89 playoffs, the Oilers still haven't recovered from that trade and, although they had a three games to one series lead on the Oilers, the Kings were the better team that entire series; furthermore, the Kings came back and eventually won that series in seven games. In 1990, the Oilers now had a chip on their shoulder and Bill Ranford was a monster between the pipes. That series win against the Kings was the driving force to them winning the Stanley Cup and they broke that glass ceiling that they couldn't win without Wayne Gretzky.

  • @GreenBayPayton
    @GreenBayPayton ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It blows my mind a trade made in 1988 contributed to a 2012 Stanley Cup, a 2018 Stanley Cup Finals appearance, a 2020 Stanley Cup, a 2021 Stanley Cup, and lasted until 2022. Very well done video dude.

    • @ariccua6101
      @ariccua6101 ปีที่แล้ว

      ^Don't forget a 2023 Stanley Cup, to add, as well.

  • @Jake_Broer
    @Jake_Broer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Rymsha is making his debut tonight. The tree keeps growing!

    • @billsondgerath3180
      @billsondgerath3180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately he was cut. Phillips is still in their system though

  • @chuck3175
    @chuck3175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Here after Rymsha’s nhl debut… the tree continues

  • @antthegamer7813
    @antthegamer7813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Update:
    Drake Rymsha was not handed a qualifying offer by the kings in the 2021 offseason, making him a free agent, meaning his branch is over.
    But the trade tree continues.
    At the 2022 trade deadline, the Kings would trade Markus Phillips to the Jets in exchange for Nelson Nogier, a 26 year old defenseman that put up 4 points and 8 penalty minutes for the Kings' AHL affiliate. He is still currently under contract with the Kings.

    • @ExileOnDaytonStreet
      @ExileOnDaytonStreet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nogier yet to play for the Kings (13 GP, 1G, 3A for Ontario Reign in the AHL) and is currently a free agent.
      I feel like the Kings owe it to the universe to resign him and promptly deal him somewhere.

    • @wongmm
      @wongmm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ExileOnDaytonStreet it’s all over. Nelson Nogier was not offered a contract and signed as a free agent in the KHL. The tree is complete. 1988 to 2022 was a great run.

  • @bat_knob_cursive294
    @bat_knob_cursive294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is wild. For us guys old enough to remember that infamous day in Canadian sports history, this segment puts it all into perspective thirty-two years later. Thanks for creating this and researching this very lengthy piece of hockey information. A must watch for any hockey fan.

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    WOW, that is a crazy stat; if Gretzky retired after the 88 season, his point total would be 8th in NHL history!!

    • @spencerwallace4805
      @spencerwallace4805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If he never took a shot he would still be the leading scorer in the NHL

    • @timeland8343
      @timeland8343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@spencerwallace4805 not true. Scored a lot of assists by shooting the puck on net.

    • @gordo1191
      @gordo1191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spencerwallace4805 what

    • @spencerwallace4805
      @spencerwallace4805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gordo1191 Gretzky has so many assists that if he never scored a goal he would still be the all time leader

  • @davidvonderhaar4394
    @davidvonderhaar4394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    You've seen the Wayne Gretzky trade. Now get ready for the Wain Glensky video!

  • @coreymoorey8093
    @coreymoorey8093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    4 months later this video already needs an update lol

  • @RetroVisionist
    @RetroVisionist ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rest In Peace Wayne Gretzky Trade Tree (1988 - 2022) ✝🕊💔

    • @scotttribout1150
      @scotttribout1150 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still not over. Follow Brock Beukeboom....... He was traded.

    • @JaredtheRabbit
      @JaredtheRabbit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scotttribout1150Someone said that the Beukeboom trade wasn’t part of it.

  • @DrScruffee
    @DrScruffee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    That $15 million went to try to pay off the Capital Packers plant that he ran poorly and eventually that also went bankrupt. A meat plant... in Alberta went bankrupt. Pocklington: the worst business man ever

    • @oceanthresher6184
      @oceanthresher6184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The hockey Babe Ruth trade that wasn’t.

    • @andrewstaub5378
      @andrewstaub5378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even a worse person. He ended up in JAIL. Haha. And the legacy of trading the best player in history . A serious up comance. Also kept all the game worn jerseys. Even a few Gretzky's. And u know the value of those when sold in a package deal a few years later. Yes im a stellar fan.

    • @CS-ks3yy
      @CS-ks3yy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewstaub5378 keeping game worn doesn’t matter though. All the teams sell them for profit now too.

    • @mervynlan7727
      @mervynlan7727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So instead trading the greatest player of all time, he could’ve ask for a bailout.

    • @frankbarone4248
      @frankbarone4248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peter Pocklington wasn't just the worst business man,he was simply.....AN IDIOT !!!!!!

  • @seanhenderson5996
    @seanhenderson5996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The thing about imagining how this player or that player might have impacted the Oilers in the 90s had the Oilers picked them is that the 90s Oilers were on a crazy tight budget - they frequently traded players as soon as they were due for a raise - and so its unlikely they would have held on to any of the future stars you mention even if they had acquired them.

    • @kurtwpg
      @kurtwpg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, although if they had been lucky enough to pick the best players the trades would have led to an ever expanding pool of good cheap assets.

  • @brianthrom6858
    @brianthrom6858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Respect to anyone willing to take something so mundane and tear it apart so throughly

    • @timeland8343
      @timeland8343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Gretzky trade ain’t mundane

  • @mcj88
    @mcj88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    35:22 - my favourite bit of historical trivia about what I will call *Gretzky Trade II: Electric Bluegaloo* is that it happened on February 27, 1996 - the same day the first _Pokemon_ games, _Pocket Monster Red & Green,_ were released in Japan. Even better, coincidentally they were released out here in 1998 as _Pokemon Red, Blue & Yellow_ - the same colours that the Blues wore when Gretzky was traded there.

  • @sportssagas
    @sportssagas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Now this is what I call a Christmas miracle

  • @trickyricky4834
    @trickyricky4834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Merry Christmas Eve everyone

    • @noro4195
      @noro4195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You too

    • @AMT1345
      @AMT1345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You too

    • @LeftyGretzky
      @LeftyGretzky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Merry Christmas to you too

    • @holoholopainen1627
      @holoholopainen1627 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ho Ho Ho - Hyvää Joulu !

  • @g00glesucksatprivacy60
    @g00glesucksatprivacy60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    So Steve seems that you missed that Ethan Moreau was a member of the 2006 Oilers that lost in the Stanley Cup final to the Carolina hurricanes in 7 games.

  • @derekwalter7100
    @derekwalter7100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put off watching this because of the 1 hour commitment.... but it was so worth it. Man, some amazing work putting this together.

  • @Gopherzooka
    @Gopherzooka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    correction: Oilers fans STILL hate this trade.

    • @darionmonson
      @darionmonson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wasn’t around then but Im still salty about it.

    • @jenzim3639
      @jenzim3639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      91 could have been pens oilers :O and 92 :O

    • @frenchlasagna8138
      @frenchlasagna8138 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a burden they aquire at birth.

  • @mayureshanmuhunthan3876
    @mayureshanmuhunthan3876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Drake Rymsha is making his NHL debut tonight (May 13 2021). Insane😳

  • @phreak811
    @phreak811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found an older still living trade tree! Cam Neely! Traded in 1986 and from that trade Boston has both Trent Frederic and Jakub Zboril on their roster today!

  • @thenightmaricsenpai524
    @thenightmaricsenpai524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "It's just Olie the Goaie"
    Ah yes. One of the key pieces in Washington's first Finals run in 1998

    • @briankoski817
      @briankoski817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I watched him score a goal way back in Junior Hockey.
      That was way-cool.
      The sold out crowd went crazy!

  • @FelixSalazar
    @FelixSalazar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm not a hockey fan. I like stats and sports trade history. Thank you for making a video with lots of names I never knew of, and making it interesting, entertaining, and actually teaching me something. That's genuine communicative talent

  • @daxshell242
    @daxshell242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know its a hockey chat when the terms "flourish in edmonton" and "have a great career in edmonton" are being thrown around.

  • @sirdragon9256
    @sirdragon9256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Took me all day to watch this trade tree as I was celebrating Christmas "Down Under." Had a wonderful Christmas dinner and this was my dessert. Thank-you, Steve. Merry Christmas to you, the family, Drew, Tom and all of you reading this. Take care and all the best through the holiday season.

  • @primroselane1
    @primroselane1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the things that you misunderstood due to your age was the Oiler's 5th Stanley Cup which you referenced a number of times. The Oilers didn't win that Cup because of the pieces that they acquired in that trade. In fact, immediately following the clinching game of the finals that year the interviews in the Oiler's dressing room during the celebration told a much different story. Each player to a man stated in their interview that they never would have won that cup if it weren't for the fact that Gretzky led them for so many years and taught them how to be winners. They said yes that he had gotten much of the credit whenever they won but he also shouldered most of the blame when they didn't win. He never hid from that responsibility and that gave the rest the team the ability to go home after those losses while he was left to be publicly accountable to the fans and the media. He wasn't just the sum total of his goals and assists with a lengthy highlight reel that future generations see him as, he was a true leader. He elevated the game of every player he played with in Edmonton and he taught them how to win. They won their 5th cup not in spite of him, but because of him.

  • @rileymitchell4649
    @rileymitchell4649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was literally just thinking about this one the other day

  • @dereklasker5350
    @dereklasker5350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The backgammon thing reminds me of Han Solo winning the millennium falcon from Lando Calrissian in a game of sabacc

  • @brittanyreilly4536
    @brittanyreilly4536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool info on this!!! Also i grew up in Edmonton, and lived 4 houses down from an Edmonton Oilers rental house they used for players. While i lived there they had around 3 players live there plus the Edmonton Oilers physical trainer who still lives there today. When i was younger and played hockey, i would ask the players to come out and play a game of street hockey if they had time, most said no but still gave me some cool signatures... especially Doug Weight. But ill never forget Ethan Moreau, he came out and played hockey with us all the time! and he was good friends with Chad Kilger who also played with us but was a bit ttoo physical sometimes lol (he forgot we were just kids i think lol). I have the most respect for players like that who enjoy the fans. I remember Ethan eventually moved a few blocks away and had his own baby, then i would see him at the park with his family. One of the best Oilers ever in my opinion. Also Ryan Smyth was the coolest too, met him a few times. Last time i seen him was at the A&W @ West Edmonton Mall, he was behind me in the line up, and i had to take a double take and then said hi lol. I was also lucky enough to hang out with the Iginla family, my brother got to stay at Jeromes house in Calgary. And no joke, Curtis Josephs wife helped me learn to read when i was in elementary school (Earl Buxton school), as i went to the same school as there daughter. good times! lol

  • @adamrasmussen9939
    @adamrasmussen9939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the first 'trade tree' vid. Ive watched....gotta find more now. This was great.

  • @SuperStrik9
    @SuperStrik9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still remember watching Gretzky's press conference when he got traded. God I'm getting old lol.

  • @shrillwire1517
    @shrillwire1517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I’m still amazed that Wayne Gretzky house sat for robin thick when he was a child

  • @ryanchase9332
    @ryanchase9332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite hockey fact (and one of my favorite sports facts in general):
    Jaromir Jagr is second all-time in points scored in the NHL. He has played at a very high level for almost 36 years (2 longer than I've been alive).
    Yet... Jagr would need to score his best season total (149 points) for six and half more seasons to catch Wayne Gretzky. Despite Gretzky playing 246 fewer games.

  • @chebatenaley2134
    @chebatenaley2134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shout out Steve from a fellow Brantfordian Walter Gretzky once drove me and a friend home in the rain just because he was such a nice guy

  • @splorqqqq
    @splorqqqq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is as good a Christmas gift I could ask for

  • @deathman6452
    @deathman6452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    "Gretzky had it, lost it"

    • @Ok-ik4ww
      @Ok-ik4ww 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      “Yzerman blue line chance”

    • @Tsweeney12584
      @Tsweeney12584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ok-ik4ww SCOORRREEEESSSS STEVE YZERMAN! DETROIT WINS!

  • @Jame5man
    @Jame5man 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While not explicitly part of the trade tree Nicholas Deslauriers, after being traded to Buffalo, was eventually traded to Montreal for Zach Redmond. After a couple of years in Montreal he was traded to Anaheim for a 2020 4th round pick. In fact this past season he scored the fastest hat trick in Ducks history with his third goal coming at 11:49 of the first period against Ottawa on March 10.

  • @jwshiring9745
    @jwshiring9745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these trade trees. Wish they would finish with a summary of statistics. Like LA got 9,999 regular season games played with 999 Goals & 999 assist, 99 playoff games with 99 Goals & 99 assists + 1 Cup and the same kind of stats for Edmonton. Something to add into the argument of who won the trade and a SN opinion on who won the trade.

  • @jdlopez912
    @jdlopez912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nasreddine went back to being an assistant in NJ - they hired Lindy Ruff as their head coach.

  • @garyb2049
    @garyb2049 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Dropping a bomb on Xmas eve. 👀

  • @Oilers89
    @Oilers89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been saving this video for a few weeks. Huge Oilers fan, wrote about their history while I wrote at THW. This is great content Steve (I’ll forgive you for being a Leafs fan) cheers

  • @OttawaRocks
    @OttawaRocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is as good a presentation as one can get for such a complex tree - and it brought back memories of some of these players I've watched over the years. Well done Steve & Sportsnet.
    That said, let me add a cool footnote. While Steve was brushing off Matt Zultek's career, it occurred to me that MZ had one of the most memorable goals scored ever in junior hockey history. Matt Zultek scored the Memorial Cup winning OT goal for the host Ottawa 67s over the Calgary Hitmen in 1999. Great memories!

  • @haleychow1535
    @haleychow1535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey now Steve, you put some respect on his name... That’s Stanley Cup Champion Erik Cernak to you :)

  • @davemadgett
    @davemadgett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    3 hours? But I want it now!

    • @davemadgett
      @davemadgett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Travis Reyna Those 3 hours and a bottle of whisky just disappeared!

  • @acendagrowth
    @acendagrowth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn dude, thanks for the fantastic run down memory lane. Thanks!!!!

  • @D-Fens_1632
    @D-Fens_1632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I only saw him play once. Was his first home goal in his brief time as a Blue. But the reason the game was memorable was because Tony Twist fought Kelly Chase, who was renting his old apartment to his buddyTwist after being a part of the deal that year that sent Shanahan to Hartford for Pronger. Great game.

  • @messier1126
    @messier1126 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RIP Wayne Gretzky trade tree 1988-2022

  • @commanderneyo
    @commanderneyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nuts to see both Jake Gardiner and Wyatt Kalynuk (both University Of Wisconsin alumni) played minor roles in the Gretzky trade

  • @relser187
    @relser187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok this video wants me to experiment with making *other* trade trees. Thank you for introducing me to the trade tree rabbit hole!

  • @jesseguerra7719
    @jesseguerra7719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank YOU all at Sportsnet, love the trade trees!!!

  • @andreascarlsson9488
    @andreascarlsson9488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job covering all that. Two small corrections would be nice, though as defensemen Hardy and Modry put up a majority of their games and points in a prior stint with the Kings, not coming from the trades mentioned here. By the time they got back to the Kings, they were both well over the hill (and their 30th birthdays).

    • @dsi76
      @dsi76 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same as the part about the Oilers getting Beranek, to an extent - he already had a stint for 2 seasons previously with the Oilers which was not part of this tree.

  • @harrisonalexander6203
    @harrisonalexander6203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I'm surprised at the amount of these videos Ben Bishop ends up in.

    • @maroeder71
      @maroeder71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same with Oscar Klefbom

  • @larrycopeland2413
    @larrycopeland2413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is really amazing stuff. Great work by Steve and everyone else who worked on this.

  • @WatchMeEDC
    @WatchMeEDC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Los Angeles native that grew up playing hockey and went to see Gretzky play the Kings as an 7 year old when the Oilers came to town, this brought back many many smiles and great memories. Thank you and great vid. That was really impressive and admirable research work. The stats for each player must have taken ages to compile. Awesome work!

  • @JeffONeillOverdrive
    @JeffONeillOverdrive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Steve should get his own show on 590 or something.

    • @07foxmulder
      @07foxmulder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s got a podcast but unfortunately it’s bogged down by a couple pylons. If it was just Steve it would be great.

    • @JeffONeillOverdrive
      @JeffONeillOverdrive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@07foxmulder I like the podcast and Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake aren’t pylons, they’re alright. If it was just Steve doing a show by himself, the show would be off the rails because he’d start talking about some 3rd round pick from 2001. Even if there was a mcdavid trade to talk about, he’d some how start talking about some irrelevant draft pick from years ago. He should get a show like what Tim and Sid are where he can kind of go off the rails, but he has his own Tim micallef to keep the show on track. I see Steve one day having a radio show or something.

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Jimmy Carson quit, walked out, on the Oilers in the middle of the 89-90 season. He had requested to be traded before the season, but no movement. Finally, he walked out and the Oilers made the trade.

  • @jns2200
    @jns2200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Update April 22 2022: Drake Ryhmsha was not re-signed. Markus Phillips traded to Winnipeg for Nelson Nogier and he’s still under contract with LA. Crazy this is still going 34 years on.

  • @payrysdoscs4903
    @payrysdoscs4903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The McSorley illegal stick should be in Dang-Its Classic.

  • @TheRickRoller1
    @TheRickRoller1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was epic. I’d like to have Gretzky’s reaction to this.

  • @ssboooy4153
    @ssboooy4153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    imagine if you were one of the Rymsha or Philips watching this casually and just see your name at the end of Gretzky's tree

  • @erickoeman1
    @erickoeman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These capsules are amazing. So much insight and Steve animates them brilliantly with great knowledge and pizzaz. Well done and to your researchers who must work overtime to put them all together. Brings back so many memories too.

  • @craigschulz1852
    @craigschulz1852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I work for Palm Dairies in Edmonton ( Pocklington owned company) & after Puck sold Gretzky, there was a lot of backlash. People hated Puck after it happened.

  • @arcadelinkauthor
    @arcadelinkauthor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Aa of May 2022...
    Drake Rymsha was never traded. Though he is playing for the Hershey Bears which is associated with the Washington Capitals. So I guess that was a free agency pickup or something. His little corner of the tree is done. That just leaves Phillips.
    On march 21 2022, Markus Phillips was traded from LA to Winnipeg for Nelson Nogier and he is currently with LA's AHL affiliate the Ontario Reign. At this moment he is playing with them in the Playoffs against the Colorado Eagles.
    He played 10 games for Winnipeg at the NHL level in 16/17, and one in 18/19. No points, 5 PIM.
    He has 1 goal, 3 assists, 4 points, -7, and 20 SOG in 13 games played as a defenseman for Ontario, since the trade.
    The playoffs are only 2 games in, but hes got 1 assist, and 13 shots.
    I'm not confident that he will continue the trade tree, but he could, and this is where we're at now.

  • @cj_phillips4870
    @cj_phillips4870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Turns out the Gretzky Trade is kinda connected to the Eric Lindros trade with the Jari Kurri trade

  • @kevinalexander6812
    @kevinalexander6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Steve. But I noticed at 2:47 you see Gretzky celebrating an Oilers goal with Ruotsalainen. Yet later in your tree you mentioned that the Oilers acquired Ruotsalainen after the Gretzky trade. I was somewhat confused by this because I was certain I had seen a Ruotsalainen Oilers jersey earlier in this video and I went researching (which I like). I think it bears mentioning that this was his second stint with Edmonton and he was both times a Stanley Cup Champion with them (87 & 90). That being said I love your Trade Tree videos and I envy your Hockey knowledge. Go Pens!!!!

  • @codycallahan91
    @codycallahan91 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was intense, buddy put in work for this video haha.

  • @sglc7100
    @sglc7100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Imagine if fantasy hockey was around back in Gretzky's years 😳 you could have a team full of bums and Gretzky and still win lmao

    • @rhaspados666
      @rhaspados666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe Gretzky was split between goals and assists to keep pools competitive

  • @NOMADcourier85
    @NOMADcourier85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If anyone needed proof of "The Butterfly Effect" here it is.

  • @codekhalil6437
    @codekhalil6437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see your vids on youtube but always thought you were just the loud Dangit guy. But after watching this (yes, the whole thing!) I can see that you are SUPER thorough and informative. Props to the freelance editor and producer as well. All who helped with it

  • @mrterp04
    @mrterp04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of the joke of how the Oilers won two Cups after Gretzky left-one in Edmonton, one in New York.

  • @ct-117
    @ct-117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "The Oilers trading McDavid" ... can you trade an entire roster?

    • @thomasbeck604
      @thomasbeck604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also say goodbye to all your 1st round picks for the next 5 years LOL

    • @TheVoivode
      @TheVoivode 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read this and gave it a go in a game. Finally got McDavid for Elias Pettersson, Alexis Lafreniere, David Pastrnak, Artemi Panarin and 1st Round picks from the Red Wings and Rangers.

  • @liam9616
    @liam9616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    23:56 Me a Canadiens fan: Don’t you dare say it I don’t even wanna imagine it.....

  • @stormcrow7878
    @stormcrow7878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark Hardy had 6 points in 27 games after being traded to the Kings by the Rangers. You included his 297 points in 589 games with LA from 1979 through 1988.

  • @abpeg5423
    @abpeg5423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Not really an NHL fan but this video kept my interest for 50 mins, well made*

  • @jeanruttan6604
    @jeanruttan6604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should do a sundin trade tree only time two 1sts were traded for each other

  • @jordancollins8253
    @jordancollins8253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ray fararro has nine hat tricks in his career, bet you didn’t know that

  • @kevinmeawasige6458
    @kevinmeawasige6458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these trade trees, a great look at history of a trade and a great way to remember some names and what happened to them. Thank you for these trees and all the hard work that goes into them.

  • @dylanmorriss3848
    @dylanmorriss3848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't watch hockey and for some reason I'm watching this right now.

  • @GrinderCB
    @GrinderCB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was wondering when you'd get around to the biggest trade ever and if you'd do just the EDM-LAK trade or include the subsequent LAK-STL trade. I lived in SoCal back then and that was huge news for us. The downside was that after that we couldn't get tickets at the box office on game night because the whole season sold out ahead of time. Folks forget about the Kings also getting Krushelnyski and McSorley. Krushelnyski was a good player, he had that famous goal in OT against Calgary in the playoffs one year, the one that floated over Mike Vernon's glove and into the net. McSorley was fun to watch if you like the fighting and he was always willing to sign autographs after the game. Word was that the Kings needed McSorley because they didn't have a top enforcer at the time to protect Gretzky.

    • @GameShowMike
      @GameShowMike ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The unwritten rule was if you messed with Gretzky, you dealt with McSorley.

  • @jwalkergamingmaster9303
    @jwalkergamingmaster9303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do Iginla being traded away from the flames. I want to be sad by realizing how bad the return was

    • @codycallahan91
      @codycallahan91 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was so stoked to find out iggy was coming to Colorado. It’s a real bummer that those were such bad years for us in Colorado. All the young talent in the world didn’t help us get iginla a cup

  • @jw3113
    @jw3113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I must be old cuz I remember some of these names and it's taking me back to my childhood when I'd collect hockey cards

  • @philwestlake9034
    @philwestlake9034 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn man, Born in 1968, I remember Gretzky joining the NHL with Edmonton I remember the utter shock across Canada when he was traded. and smashed a remote wishing it was Fraser's head in 93...but the fact that you spent god knows how many hours doing the research is bloody amazing. Great video it brought back alot of memories, with all the dates you provided it reminded me of what was going on in my world like the birth of my first child during the 93 run.which I recorded every Leafs game reg season and playoffs on VHS lmao