“The ending of sorrow is the beginning of wisdom.” To look at this statement without making an abstraction of this statement, which is perceived as truth. The perception of this truth is the effortless action in the chaos of sorrow, the ending of sorrow itself! Got it 🙏🏾💕
JK is Timeless JEWEL To Mankind ; Blessings on anyone who understand the depth of JK mirroring meditation for one own transforming revolution within ; A RADICAL TRANSFORMATION ! EFFORTLESSLY
What he said 40, 50 years ago, is still valid and pointing to the same place. So, he has definetely found the truth, which he is trying to explain in words. He has taken a lot of effort to guide human beings for that truth, by requesting us to Observe/Enqure into the Internal Structure and find this beautiful truth. But he was going too deep, most of the listerns/us have no idea, what he was talking about. Even after 40/50 years, it is the same story. and we have to follow his talks, very carefully to get the message. Thanks for sharing these talks of Chrishnamurthi and hope more people will go deep and understand the path to the truth.
This crystal clarity blows me out of the water. Every. Single. Time. Thank you to all the people who are making this content available for free. Blessed to have found these inquiries 🔥🔥🔥
This is beautiful... I think the summary is... "see things for what they are... Don't try to change them... Don't wish they were better/worse" That's the key to live in perfect sensation... Untouched by thought.
i like him but he doesnt know how to communicate, thats why so many people find it hard to understand. Plus the question he is asking is very complicated, many nuances to why people dont radically change. When he was refering to total sensation, he means most actions driven by a thought (will or motive) based on reward or punishment. Meaning most of our acting is done with thinking. And since tomorrow(projections) and past (memories) are things stored in the mind most our actions become mechanical and repetion or patterned. thinking is a patterned mechanism. From what i understood, you need the mind to be quiet so it doesnt interfere with your choices and end up making the same or similar. With training ive been able to have moments of total silence in my head.
@@HackTheBeat He is actually very precise and good at communicating but the problem is YOU who does not have enough background. You can't simply watch one or two such videos and get it. It does not work that way.
Ok then don't change Trump, Hitler, Mao, Stalin etc etc. This does not make sense. Jk's message is not about changing others or accepting others as they are. It is all about personal enquiry and personal growth. If everyone or most do that........then Hilters and Mao or Stalin will be nipped in the bud, rather than accepting them, suffering and then trying very hard to get rid of them. Realizing the real world is always YOU and nobody else.
I will tell u sth lovely sth effortless sth truly beautiful, J Krishnamurti. An Eternal human being existence knowing that is outmost royal majestic and human dignity. How much more blessing does one need? Least of f all time/space pleasures turn around pain and suffering then a void: cause of all human struggles. Void of freedom. That effort, we are all redeemable, a void of love & beauty
true. to attentively listen to all of the words and their implications. it’s easy to hear his words but to not internalize them. i believe that is one of the keys. relate to every word and what comes therefrom.
57:45 -> the belief in an ideal, fixed God, or in an ideal political ideology, is the obstacle. What should be is an impediment to the simple perception of what is.
I had anger issues went anger management, seeing this I really understand what he’s talking about, better than the class, mankind has it’s cup full, the moment you’re born you told your from god, no mums bottom, only a new born child free of conditioning, until the child understands that it’s in one of the many religions and fear is what is the topic, scared the shit out of you,
When you first go looking you might say i have found a leader, a master, someone to guide me. That is a reasonable statement. But from there as you go forward you should quickly see that the idea of a teacher or master is an illusion. Jiddu is merely pointing the way, it is you that is the teacher. If you have found that first thread, keep going. It wont be long till you see the whole suit.
Did you ever think he had been suffering for us? Seeing us falling in the abyss and being unable to stop that, as we have to make the job ourselves? Whatch his face: HUGE lacrimal glands. Tells all.
The "what is" and "what should be" is exactly the "knowledge of good and evil" that caused/causes the fall of Adam and Eve, of man. What is, is, let go of all concepts and see what is, within and without. This allows healing, change, and "Freedom From the Known."
Assim eu entendi: Os desejos e os pensamentos daquilo que deveria ser impedem a observação do que realmente é. Não se lida com o que é, porque se busca o que não é. O que "é" não seria importante, apenas o que deveria ser seria importante. As sensações são contaminadas pelas imagens, pelos desejos, pelos ideais, e assim as sensações são encobertas, ficamos insensíveis. Se desperdiça energia com os pensamentos e com busca do que deveria ser, e não se observa o que é, não se lida com o que é. É preciso erradicar a projeção de imagens sobre as coisas com as quais temos de lidar. Temos de sentir, observar nossos sentimentos, para agir no presente momento, sem o fardo do pensamento ideal, sem o fardo da promessa, sem o fardo do confronto entre a realidade e a iluminação.
Imagine your brain as the emperor who will use everything at his disposal to ensure his survival. He has spread his tentacles (nerves) to every nanometer part of his kingdom (body) so that he can monitor and trigger this kingdom to react in a way to nourish him and keep him safe. He will tell the body when to eat/drink and when to stop. In most people, this emperor is neurotic because he has inherited something from the past (DNA, epigenetics, friends, society, whatsapp university, mutations etc). This neurotic emperor likes the way he is, and he thinks he is great and blames everybody else when something goes wrong. Why would a great/perfect man want to change? He will use all parts of his kingdom in a way to satisfy his Ego. His body has no choice in his thoughts and initiation of actions. He will do something and justify the reason for doing it. In other words, he is like a toddler out of control. Poor baby, the world is cruel to him! For this emperor, there is ONE BIG ENEMY who is also an emperor with equal power. This enemy hides in plain sight. The emperor always either fights off this enemy successfully or simply ignores his existence and carries on. When a well-wisher points out this enemy, the emperor denies that and lashes out in anger at the well-wisher, refuses to socialize with him or answer his phone calls. At some point in his life, his anger/frustrations is not enough anymore, and he starts crying and blaming all. He calls or texts his dear family members and tells how cruel people are to him despite his generosity and kindness. One day, this emperor realizes none of that is helpful. He seeks the help of some Sad Gurus who were enlightened in the past four lives, and they give him some snake oil or some holy water which has memory to cure all illness. He also tries out some Bhaktas who dance and sing all day for no good reason. The emperor showers them with gold and money but there is no cure. His problem is getting worse each day. Now his well-wisher points them in the direction of people like Buddha, Swami Vivekannda, Sarvapriyananda, Ramana Maharshi, JK or UG or Acharya Prashant or some other educated gurus who are very few in number. They tell the emperor his ENEMY is himself and the Emperor lashes out in anger again fiercely, refuses to subscribe to their TH-cam videos, blames them, call them anti-socialites and anti-kingdom. He carries on like that and dies alone in a miserable manner.
That is very appealing to me - sensation, thought, tomorrow vs. timeless state. But if it was so simple - why doesn't one change? That even K can't answer.
Because we don't want that the way we want sleep/ fun at weekend / other worldly pursuit. Probably that is why. Simple doesn't mean at the blink of the eye! I think that's why probably!
Understand this man,is very scary about the world of humanity,I believe that it can never changed, there’s nothing Anyone can do, thought keeps us divided, to realise that, you see things through the eyes of animals that is being killed by man, without thought energy is always
From that (I.e observing without thoughts or images) the phrase arises when u see something beautiful “TIME STOOD STILL” even a glimpse of this moment in life is awesome, hope you experience it one day 🙏🏻
How come don’t you have him an air conditioner or at least water and a small towel for him to be more confortable! I know he isn’t with us anymore, but it hurts me to see him like this…
desire is the need to care for something of less value than man. why we cannot see an animal suffer easier than man suffer. therefore, desires create lazy will so that it can fulfill its true selfish desires. selfish selfseeking, pleasure that is. irony that man learns this when he/she is too old to do one darn thing about it. thus, organized religion helps remedy this great obstacle to man and earth, planets, etc. every other creation knows its place.
thankfully as time goes on, younger and younger people will realize this truth. it’s humanity as a whole who benefits from his words. someone at the end of their life learning about this is equally valuable as one who is born into a society with K’s way as the default. I’m 24.
Thought says, "I".....OOOPSY.....Then "I" says, "I" will".....OOOOPSY....😮. Mankind has a mind like his hands w its grabby fingers and biting toothy mouth. From the tips of our lips to our anuses, all that we are is grabbiness, consumption and excretion. K must have been a leap in our species to understand what he did w such intensity and irrefutability. However.....mankind overall is a defunct species and is in the process of going extinct even as anyone right now is reading this....in the eternal now.😮
I always cringe when he starts to almost cry in exasperation. "I wonder if you get this. Why can't you see?!." If he feels that way, it is not such a good idea to speak to so many who come to listen with sincerity!
Did you ever think he had been suffering for us? Seeing us falling in the abyss and being unable to stop that, as we have to make the job ourselves? What his face: HUGE lacrimal glands. Tells all.
Krishnaji please stop willing Mankind to change! Are you misleading us? Will you stop willing this? Blague à part : Why change? First remain with who/what we are: this is the only ability we have. Change does not come out of any « will ». First let what is, be. Don’t call the other fellow called Mr. Thought, to mess it all up. Mr. Thought can’t standstill and wants you to change. Krishnaji all his life, taught lesson 1. Humble man (humour ... rires grinçants).
I dont know how much more compassionate a human can be. He is pouring his heart out.
No one can explain conflict/violence so clearly so elaborately. He is the real Master.
that is NOT how "he" would see it.
No masters
The artist I would say
What a simple, effective & powerful talk!
“The ending of sorrow is the beginning of wisdom.” To look at this statement without making an abstraction of this statement, which is perceived as truth. The perception of this truth is the effortless action in the chaos of sorrow, the ending of sorrow itself! Got it 🙏🏾💕
JK is Timeless JEWEL To Mankind ; Blessings on anyone who understand the depth of JK mirroring meditation for one own transforming revolution within ; A RADICAL TRANSFORMATION ! EFFORTLESSLY
Yes sir he saved my life
What a depth, he could go. Really marvelous. What a loss to the mankind, if you don't go through his speeches. He could peel off, layer by layer.
Gwt
What he said 40, 50 years ago, is still valid and pointing to the same place. So, he has definetely found the truth, which he is trying to explain in words.
He has taken a lot of effort to guide human beings for that truth, by requesting us to Observe/Enqure into the Internal Structure and find this beautiful truth.
But he was going too deep, most of the listerns/us have no idea, what he was talking about. Even after 40/50 years, it is the same story. and we have to follow his talks, very carefully to get the message.
Thanks for sharing these talks of Chrishnamurthi and hope more people will go deep and understand the path to the truth.
This crystal clarity blows me out of the water. Every. Single. Time. Thank you to all the people who are making this content available for free. Blessed to have found these inquiries 🔥🔥🔥
I listen to you with love care and humbleness Krishna ji. Indeed it is like looking into a mirror!
Absolutely true!
It is the best explanation and analysis I have heard about the root of our problem. Namaste!
he has tremendous energy
I think it might be because he doesn’t use his energy on the frivolous things that most of humanity is consumed by.
Thanks JK. No words to say... No question at all... We are blessed🙏🙏🙏🙏
This is beautiful...
I think the summary is... "see things for what they are... Don't try to change them... Don't wish they were better/worse"
That's the key to live in perfect sensation... Untouched by thought.
i like him but he doesnt know how to communicate, thats why so many people find it hard to understand. Plus the question he is asking is very complicated, many nuances to why people dont radically change.
When he was refering to total sensation, he means most actions driven by a thought (will or motive) based on reward or punishment. Meaning most of our acting is done with thinking. And since tomorrow(projections) and past (memories) are things stored in the mind most our actions become mechanical and repetion or patterned. thinking is a patterned mechanism.
From what i understood, you need the mind to be quiet so it doesnt interfere with your choices and end up making the same or similar. With training ive been able to have moments of total silence in my head.
@@HackTheBeat He is actually very precise and good at communicating but the problem is YOU who does not have enough background. You can't simply watch one or two such videos and get it. It does not work that way.
Ok then don't change Trump, Hitler, Mao, Stalin etc etc. This does not make sense. Jk's message is not about changing others or accepting others as they are. It is all about personal enquiry and personal growth. If everyone or most do that........then Hilters and Mao or Stalin will be nipped in the bud, rather than accepting them, suffering and then trying very hard to get rid of them. Realizing the real world is always YOU and nobody else.
The structure of violence ... So delicately described, like lace ... Magister dixit! ;)
Very much love and respect to world teacher J. Krisnomurti
My love embraces his wisdom and compassion 🙏🙏🙏🕯️🙏🙏🙏
WoW!
This talk triggered a gnosis as k so often does,
So K IS immortal within my soul!
Blessed!
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Adoration? You stopped learning. He cannot free us, we have to set ourselves free.
@@流浪漢パリ it's ok to love another person...
This is the video i have searching for
If you are seeing it than you are so special. Unlike other society goats.
I will tell u sth lovely sth effortless sth truly beautiful, J Krishnamurti. An Eternal human being existence knowing that is outmost royal majestic and human dignity. How much more blessing does one need? Least of f all time/space pleasures turn around pain and suffering then a void: cause of all human struggles. Void of freedom. That effort, we are all redeemable, a void of love & beauty
Magistral!!! Yes, understood! So grateful for this ...
If you just listen to the speech you will see the truth
true. to attentively listen to all of the words and their implications. it’s easy to hear his words but to not internalize them. i believe that is one of the keys. relate to every word and what comes therefrom.
Thank you for sharing! Precious!
I am amazed at how less know he is given the marvel of his existence in contemporary times.
Immortal though!
Freedom = only what is, is in your heart and life.
35:20 Sensation Without Thought
When we no longer move from what is to what should be, thought stops. The movement of that past memory, void of vitality/void of The Unknown, stops.
So profoundly!!
57:45 -> the belief in an ideal, fixed God, or in an ideal political ideology, is the obstacle. What should be is an impediment to the simple perception of what is.
I had anger issues went anger management, seeing this I really understand what he’s talking about, better than the class, mankind has it’s cup full, the moment you’re born you told your from god, no mums bottom, only a new born child free of conditioning, until the child understands that it’s in one of the many religions and fear is what is the topic, scared the shit out of you,
Facts, facts, facts! Death is the disappearance of the non-facts (the “manifested” human body, included).
When you first go looking you might say i have found a leader, a master, someone to guide me. That is a reasonable statement. But from there as you go forward you should quickly see that the idea of a teacher or master is an illusion. Jiddu is merely pointing the way, it is you that is the teacher. If you have found that first thread, keep going. It wont be long till you see the whole suit.
Did you ever think he had been suffering for us? Seeing us falling in the abyss and being unable to stop that, as we have to make the job ourselves? Whatch his face: HUGE lacrimal glands. Tells all.
The "what is" and "what should be" is exactly the "knowledge of good and evil" that caused/causes the fall of Adam and Eve, of man. What is, is, let go of all concepts and see what is, within and without. This allows healing, change, and "Freedom From the Known."
😂..you totally twisted it according to your memory...wipe that stories and then listen again
@@riltonklazarus121right.
Beliefs, religion: litter bin.
"There is no teacher and the taught in religious matters, please understand this, basically."
Thank you sir 🙏🙏🙏
Assim eu entendi: Os desejos e os pensamentos daquilo que deveria ser impedem a observação do que realmente é. Não se lida com o que é, porque se busca o que não é. O que "é" não seria importante, apenas o que deveria ser seria importante. As sensações são contaminadas pelas imagens, pelos desejos, pelos ideais, e assim as sensações são encobertas, ficamos insensíveis. Se desperdiça energia com os pensamentos e com busca do que deveria ser, e não se observa o que é, não se lida com o que é. É preciso erradicar a projeção de imagens sobre as coisas com as quais temos de lidar. Temos de sentir, observar nossos sentimentos, para agir no presente momento, sem o fardo do pensamento ideal, sem o fardo da promessa, sem o fardo do confronto entre a realidade e a iluminação.
Mind blowing
43:30 Sensation is natural
But why are we bugging and having these: sensation? Thought? Why did that conditioning spread to all mankind?
Sensations are normal. The problem thought is taking everything over, it goes even there where it should not go.
there is none problem at whole except the one and only problem which is you live your life based on a brain which is conditioned to problems
Imagine your brain as the emperor who will use everything at his disposal to ensure his survival. He has spread his tentacles (nerves) to every nanometer part of his kingdom (body) so that he can monitor and trigger this kingdom to react in a way to nourish him and keep him safe. He will tell the body when to eat/drink and when to stop. In most people, this emperor is neurotic because he has inherited something from the past (DNA, epigenetics, friends, society, whatsapp university, mutations etc). This neurotic emperor likes the way he is, and he thinks he is great and blames everybody else when something goes wrong. Why would a great/perfect man want to change? He will use all parts of his kingdom in a way to satisfy his Ego. His body has no choice in his thoughts and initiation of actions. He will do something and justify the reason for doing it. In other words, he is like a toddler out of control. Poor baby, the world is cruel to him!
For this emperor, there is ONE BIG ENEMY who is also an emperor with equal power. This enemy hides in plain sight. The emperor always either fights off this enemy successfully or simply ignores his existence and carries on. When a well-wisher points out this enemy, the emperor denies that and lashes out in anger at the well-wisher, refuses to socialize with him or answer his phone calls. At some point in his life, his anger/frustrations is not enough anymore, and he starts crying and blaming all. He calls or texts his dear family members and tells how cruel people are to him despite his generosity and kindness. One day, this emperor realizes none of that is helpful. He seeks the help of some Sad Gurus who were enlightened in the past four lives, and they give him some snake oil or some holy water which has memory to cure all illness. He also tries out some Bhaktas who dance and sing all day for no good reason. The emperor showers them with gold and money but there is no cure. His problem is getting worse each day. Now his well-wisher points them in the direction of people like Buddha, Swami Vivekannda, Sarvapriyananda, Ramana Maharshi, JK or UG or Acharya Prashant or some other educated gurus who are very few in number. They tell the emperor his ENEMY is himself and the Emperor lashes out in anger again fiercely, refuses to subscribe to their TH-cam videos, blames them, call them anti-socialites and anti-kingdom. He carries on like that and dies alone in a miserable manner.
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K.......❤️
1.20.30 the making of an abstraction
That is very appealing to me - sensation, thought, tomorrow vs. timeless state. But if it was so simple - why doesn't one change? That even K can't answer.
Because we don't want that the way we want sleep/ fun at weekend / other worldly pursuit. Probably that is why. Simple doesn't mean at the blink of the eye! I think that's why probably!
Because our mind has become so complex and we need a very simple mind to understand this.
@@tanvis4534 here simple does mean at the blink of eye.
@@Venom_590 aren't you going from what is and what shoudl be
We don't change because we have an image of what to change into.. We don't give complete attention to what is
54.00 onwards watch for a few minutes
The gist of it: the old trap that mankind has been falling into for ages.
Understand this man,is very scary about the world of humanity,I believe that it can never changed, there’s nothing Anyone can do, thought keeps us divided, to realise that, you see things through the eyes of animals that is being killed by man, without thought energy is always
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♥️Watch 57.40
57:32 ( highest principle)
How is it possible to observe anything without any thought or any image or any past memory?
Possible. You just see anything without thoughts to enter in. At that very moment you are out of it. Practice it with full interest.
When you actually listening with all your sense with all your attention. And first you have to have passion love Care intention to understand .
From that (I.e observing without thoughts or images) the phrase arises when u see something beautiful “TIME STOOD STILL” even a glimpse of this moment in life is awesome, hope you experience it one day 🙏🏻
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42:33 About Sensation...
How come don’t you have him an air conditioner or at least water and a small towel for him to be more confortable! I know he isn’t with us anymore, but it hurts me to see him like this…
10:43 ( why don’t you change )
"Has will a place in life" ?..."What do we mean by life" ?...1:13:47 ☺
No meaning at all. Everything is happening automatically. Don't believe. See it by continuous meditation effortlessly.
Life means to flow through it joyfully. It is our illusion that we are acting, doing. No . Action happens.
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1:12:20
Appa
Wow
desire is the need to care for something of less value than man. why we cannot see an animal suffer easier than man suffer. therefore, desires create lazy will so that it can fulfill its true selfish desires. selfish selfseeking, pleasure that is. irony that man learns this when he/she is too old to do one darn thing about it.
thus, organized religion helps remedy this great obstacle to man and earth, planets, etc. every other creation knows its place.
thankfully as time goes on, younger and younger people will realize this truth. it’s humanity as a whole who benefits from his words. someone at the end of their life learning about this is equally valuable as one who is born into a society with K’s way as the default. I’m 24.
You are so lucky. I am 56.
29:19
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When I laugh is it the fool that recognizes himself?
Thought says, "I".....OOOPSY.....Then "I" says, "I" will".....OOOOPSY....😮. Mankind has a mind like his hands w its grabby fingers and biting toothy mouth. From the tips of our lips to our anuses, all that we are is grabbiness, consumption and excretion. K must have been a leap in our species to understand what he did w such intensity and irrefutability. However.....mankind overall is a defunct species and is in the process of going extinct even as anyone right now is reading this....in the eternal now.😮
I always cringe when he starts to almost cry in exasperation. "I wonder if you get this. Why can't you see?!." If he feels that way, it is not such a good idea to speak to so many who come to listen with sincerity!
It’s the power of his compassion ❤
Did you ever think he had been suffering for us? Seeing us falling in the abyss and being unable to stop that, as we have to make the job ourselves? What his face: HUGE lacrimal glands. Tells all.
Krishnaji please stop willing Mankind to change! Are you misleading us? Will you stop willing this? Blague à part : Why change? First remain with who/what we are: this is the only ability we have. Change does not come out of any « will ». First let what is, be. Don’t call the other fellow called Mr. Thought, to mess it all up. Mr. Thought can’t standstill and wants you to change. Krishnaji all his life, taught lesson 1. Humble man (humour ... rires grinçants).
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