tbh his character is so unique, i love how he doesn’t have good strength to fight or hunt so he uses his mind instead he isnt just some brute of a villain like tigerstar or darktail
Sol is my favourite villain, in skyclan and the stranger he’s immature and just an overall punk and I like that kinda characterization in villains, plus I felt for his backstory lol
Personally, considering his manipulation, I think that his history is just a big, fat lie. He just brought it up as a sob story to make Leafstar feel bad for him.
I- uh- no, that isn’t true, because it happened before his ambitious mind took over, and I’m sure there are some articles about his life that will prove that is false. No offense or hate intended to you,
@@M00nB3e Alright, so 1), I subscribe to Death of the Author theory with Warriors, meaning that any material the Erins make outside of the actual text itself is just as true as a headcanon you or I make. They can say, "Yes, Whitestorm sired Brindleface's kittens," and I can say in response, "Bullcrap: nothing like that ever happened in the books themselves so it never happened." 2) Sol could absolutely have character flaws before his descent, like he could be (and demonstrates himself to be) a chronic liar.
@@vickiebraman5540 And 3), he was _talking._ In most visual forms of media like graphic novels, the artist may depict a character's backstory _as they're narrating it._ Sol was narrating his story as we saw it on-page so we wouldn't be seeing boring pictures of Leafstar and Sol for that entire conversation. Would you use this same argument, "it's in the book so it can't be made up" to argue that a visual depiction of Tigerclaw's account of how Redtail died as the former is talking about it would mean that the events within the book are "not made up"?
I remember when I first read when Sol appeared and how he was cats out repeatedly. As a kid, without the background from Skyclan (that I didn’t even really know existed pffft), I thought Sol could have been a denizen of the Dark Forest who was sent to cause some chaos and make the clans weaker before the eventual battle. When I found out it was because he was spurned, I thought the extent he took his revenge was odd. I didn’t quite get character motivations back then. I also saw him as this quick, knowledgeable villain that had a ton of intelligence and calmness about him. This is a great summary of his character! I now know that Sol’s entire arc basically amounts to a bitch fit because he was too entitled and the exact *opposite* of intelligent and calm. Guy really got sent out for *justified reasons* when he kept taking shortcuts that put himself and others in danger. Then blamed every clan ever when he hadn’t even met them. Can someone say bliiiiind persecution? He reminds me of people who are hostile towards anyone in a religion they don’t agree with… AKA Sol just comes across as a bigot (even if I do think the clans are a cult-like system, but that’s religious groups for ya)
You described this so well,I am trying to learn about soul more but that map, everything moves shows me nothing really because in the almost end he is like a kit or something!
AHH i love sol so much, hes my fav char ever! i REALLY hope he comes back at some point again, since he swore vengence. id sell one of my kidneys for his superedition or at least a novella lol. i once calculated hes been travelling for +\-4 years at the time of oots, so who know what else hes been doing then
I feel kinda bad for sol,he was only trying to achieve his kit goal. His mother abandoned him,his father left is mother,he was framed of murder,he was exiled from skyclan. His past sucks and it made him a bad cat :(
Mayby SOL went to Bloodclan but wasn’t seen because there was to much going on and then left Bloodclan after scarg died and then joined a group of roughs and lived there since
That’s a theory that’s out there, but it hasn’t been confirmed that it’s fake. I’m inclined to believe that it actually is his past, because Sol echoes some of his mother’s behaviors (the phrase she previously said, his lack of patience with kits - it makes sense that he’d continue the cycle of the way he was treated). There also isn’t anything hinting at it being fake either in the graphic novel itself or in The Forgotten Warrior where he’s all bitter about not being allowed to join: it being his true backstory makes perfect sense narratively and in fact increases the pathos/drama, making his fall more tragic because it was something he genuinely dreamed of from kithood.
@@Dogsarereallycute Sol was a little shit. "I will kidnap her children and after a few days come back with them and be the big hero despite my lack in skill or morals!" Like seriously, how do you think he could get away with it or be a good warrior? The most important rule is to never harm a kit, no matter who they belong to.
I lost my cat 2 days ago I thought she is at star clan now bc maybe a monster/car killed she but now I think she's at sky clan or a rogue like Sol/yep I really believe at star clan im not so young for called kid fantasy so it's just my opinion
He’s next on the list! I’ve still gotta finish writing it yet, but I’m also doing some behind-the-scenes stuff before I make a full return to those, like building up a full image database on my own computer with characters, etc tagged rather than relying on finding them online all the time.
If you mean the one for the first half or so of the video, that’s the SkyClan and the Stranger graphic novel. The illustrations in the rest of the video mostly come from foreign editions of the books, namely the Russian editions, and a couple from the Chinese versions.
Same here, but she's a female version of ghost from "antman and the wasp", but without the phasing powers. Remember this in marvel future fight: there's two versions of ghost: modern male (name unknown), and ava starr.
Eyo plz do SCOURGE.. Bone: You- YOU KILLED A DOG AND... AND.. AND STUCK ITS TOOK IN YOUR COLLAR!? Tiny/SCOURGE: YeP! Bone: FIGHT THIS DOG! Tiny: Um.. ^Charges and kills in one shot^ Bone: ^shocked^ Scourge 4 moons later: I AM.. THE LEADER OF... B. L. O. O. D. C. L. A. N.
Nope, quite a few MAPs don’t follow the books literally; some take an artistic interpretation of the character, or imagine an alternate universe/timeline.
lmao I didn't realize how much of a beta sol was XD reminds me of playing warriors on roblox w kids who don't read the book, not that there's anything wrong w that im all for enjoying ourselves. but reading an actual adult cat behave this way in a book just feels cringe lmao
(This comment is old as hell and ive become less cynical pls dont be offended 😭😭😭) Why do warriors call calicos tortoiseshells, actual toirtoiseshells "bLack AnD rEd/bRoen" AND THEN MAKE MALES INTO TRICOLOUR CATS LIKE COME ON THATS BASIC CAT INFO ARE YOU KIDDING ME- (Not talking about the creator of this video, but the warriors writers)
Actually calicos are a type of tortoiseshells (which even in my language we don't have the word calico and I though all the cats that have two or three colours on their fur are tortoishells) and male cats are able to be tricoloured/tortoiseshells/calicos but it's very very rare and that's because of genetics
@@Makavita i.. i know I study cat genetics LOL Also this comment is a bit old- Dont think my language has a word for calico either, we just call them tricoloured
tbh his character is so unique, i love how he doesn’t have good strength to fight or hunt so he uses his mind instead he isnt just some brute of a villain like tigerstar or darktail
What explains Sol better, the books, a map called Everything Moves Sol Map, or this? I cannot decide
o: i love that map!!!
The map is probably better is, but still this explains much
Lol I came here from that video I think they both do a good job one explains with words and the other explains with a animation
All of them
Eveything moves map. it's great.
Sol is my favourite villain, in skyclan and the stranger he’s immature and just an overall punk and I like that kinda characterization in villains, plus I felt for his backstory lol
Same except I don’t think he’s punk
@@MissTamara1986 lol meant punk in the annoying little rascal way
Personally, considering his manipulation, I think that his history is just a big, fat lie. He just brought it up as a sob story to make Leafstar feel bad for him.
I- uh- no, that isn’t true, because it happened before his ambitious mind took over, and I’m sure there are some articles about his life that will prove that is false. No offense or hate intended to you,
Uh dude it's right in the book so it can't be made up.
@@M00nB3e Alright, so 1), I subscribe to Death of the Author theory with Warriors, meaning that any material the Erins make outside of the actual text itself is just as true as a headcanon you or I make. They can say, "Yes, Whitestorm sired Brindleface's kittens," and I can say in response, "Bullcrap: nothing like that ever happened in the books themselves so it never happened."
2) Sol could absolutely have character flaws before his descent, like he could be (and demonstrates himself to be) a chronic liar.
@@vickiebraman5540 And 3), he was _talking._ In most visual forms of media like graphic novels, the artist may depict a character's backstory _as they're narrating it._ Sol was narrating his story as we saw it on-page so we wouldn't be seeing boring pictures of Leafstar and Sol for that entire conversation.
Would you use this same argument, "it's in the book so it can't be made up" to argue that a visual depiction of Tigerclaw's account of how Redtail died as the former is talking about it would mean that the events within the book are "not made up"?
@@vickiebraman5540 no he was TELLING leafstar his backstory so it could be a lie
"Once and FUR all hahaha (3 of you are laughing with me O-O)
Yep
TNX FOR DOING SOL HE IS MY FAV!!!💛💛💛
My fav is Scourge
I remember when I first read when Sol appeared and how he was cats out repeatedly. As a kid, without the background from Skyclan (that I didn’t even really know existed pffft), I thought Sol could have been a denizen of the Dark Forest who was sent to cause some chaos and make the clans weaker before the eventual battle.
When I found out it was because he was spurned, I thought the extent he took his revenge was odd. I didn’t quite get character motivations back then. I also saw him as this quick, knowledgeable villain that had a ton of intelligence and calmness about him.
This is a great summary of his character! I now know that Sol’s entire arc basically amounts to a bitch fit because he was too entitled and the exact *opposite* of intelligent and calm. Guy really got sent out for *justified reasons* when he kept taking shortcuts that put himself and others in danger. Then blamed every clan ever when he hadn’t even met them. Can someone say bliiiiind persecution? He reminds me of people who are hostile towards anyone in a religion they don’t agree with…
AKA Sol just comes across as a bigot (even if I do think the clans are a cult-like system, but that’s religious groups for ya)
You described this so well,I am trying to learn about soul more but that map, everything moves shows me nothing really because in the almost end he is like a kit or something!
Plus - The song "Everything Moves" is about a person getting completely drunk out of their mind
laughing at "harrykit" omg
It’s real
its true
@@booger_gaming yep
HARRYKIT AHHAAHA
Thank you so much for sharing about this! God bless!
He kinda had a motive ig he wanted to be apart of something important and be accepted and wanted to prove to his mother he was important
AHH i love sol so much, hes my fav char ever! i REALLY hope he comes back at some point again, since he swore vengence. id sell one of my kidneys for his superedition or at least a novella lol. i once calculated hes been travelling for +\-4 years at the time of oots, so who know what else hes been doing then
Awesome vid as always!
I feel kinda bad for sol,he was only trying to achieve his kit goal. His mother abandoned him,his father left is mother,he was framed of murder,he was exiled from skyclan. His past sucks and it made him a bad cat :(
love your vids!
Holly leaf becoming an MMA fighter on sols but in the book was iconic
I watched the map and then I watched the video and it made perfect sense. You can try it out.
the art is so interesting!
Sol is probably one of my fav villains, he is interesting and I wonder if he’ll ever come back in warrior cats?
Can you do black star next
Mayby SOL went to Bloodclan but wasn’t seen because there was to much going on and then left Bloodclan after scarg died and then joined a group of roughs and lived there since
where is the page at 5:12 from?
It's from the Russian edition of Eclipse.
thats was my first book skyclan and the strager
same
@@WolfsisterGaming its my fav
'Tortoiseshell and White' It's fucking Calico!
I've read the book and still have it actually, he was not actually the best cat at all. I loved the book and might read it again later.
If this is from sky clan and the stranger btw, sol lied to leaf star abt his past, so it isn’t actually his pat but I love this vid!!!
That’s a theory that’s out there, but it hasn’t been confirmed that it’s fake. I’m inclined to believe that it actually is his past, because Sol echoes some of his mother’s behaviors (the phrase she previously said, his lack of patience with kits - it makes sense that he’d continue the cycle of the way he was treated). There also isn’t anything hinting at it being fake either in the graphic novel itself or in The Forgotten Warrior where he’s all bitter about not being allowed to join: it being his true backstory makes perfect sense narratively and in fact increases the pathos/drama, making his fall more tragic because it was something he genuinely dreamed of from kithood.
This is amazing
Sol is probably gonna come back is what my guess is.
good explanation
Sol is creepy.
I read that skyclan book last night. And I’m still mad at sol
then your a bad person :>
@@Dogsarereallycute what
@@Shinyfur5474 they are a bad person. :
@@Dogsarereallycute Sol was a little shit. "I will kidnap her children and after a few days come back with them and be the big hero despite my lack in skill or morals!"
Like seriously, how do you think he could get away with it or be a good warrior? The most important rule is to never harm a kit, no matter who they belong to.
@@YuubiTimberwolf pfft- if i was a characters kill 20 kits a day for a living then kill a fat she cat
I lost my cat 2 days ago I thought she is at star clan now bc maybe a monster/car killed she but now I think she's at sky clan or a rogue like Sol/yep I really believe at star clan im not so young for called kid fantasy so it's just my opinion
I’m so sorry to hear that. Pets are a part of the family, and it hurts when they’re gone. 😢
@@DawnwingWC it's ok she turned back with kits!I mean not born kits but with kits
@@Im_Not_Ginger_wcue That's great! Glad to hear she's ok.
@@Im_Not_Ginger_wcue my cat did that once
@@curlingsky Oh I hope they are ok
u should make one for firestar
He’s next on the list! I’ve still gotta finish writing it yet, but I’m also doing some behind-the-scenes stuff before I make a full return to those, like building up a full image database on my own computer with characters, etc tagged rather than relying on finding them online all the time.
Please do harestar.
He's hideous wings of fire is whey more fire 😆
What comic book did you use?
If you mean the one for the first half or so of the video, that’s the SkyClan and the Stranger graphic novel. The illustrations in the rest of the video mostly come from foreign editions of the books, namely the Russian editions, and a couple from the Chinese versions.
@@DawnwingWC thanks 👍
can you do the life of reedWhisker there my favorite character
The life of mapleshade?
Early! Can you do Micah?
Fun fact: I have a cat called Sol :3
hahha! coincidence!
Same here, but she's a female version of ghost from "antman and the wasp", but without the phasing powers. Remember this in marvel future fight: there's two versions of ghost: modern male (name unknown), and ava starr.
What book was the dog fight in?? I knew I remembered something like that but don't remember when.
It was mentioned in PO3 #6: Sunrise.
Harry kit 😭
Eyo plz do SCOURGE..
Bone: You- YOU KILLED A DOG AND... AND.. AND STUCK ITS TOOK IN YOUR COLLAR!?
Tiny/SCOURGE: YeP!
Bone: FIGHT THIS DOG!
Tiny: Um.. ^Charges and kills in one shot^
Bone: ^shocked^
Scourge 4 moons later: I AM.. THE LEADER OF... B. L. O. O. D. C. L. A. N.
i saw an map that he was an snake type thingy?? is that in the books too?
Nope, quite a few MAPs don’t follow the books literally; some take an artistic interpretation of the character, or imagine an alternate universe/timeline.
@@DawnwingWC awh okay :(
What is the manga called where sol appears?
SkyClan and the Stranger
Can you snowbird
first reply :)
SOL IS EVIL! He made ShadowClan turn their backs to StarClan! Even tough he is one of my favourites
Yeah but starclan does kinda suck.
My favorite WC villains are sol and mapleshade!
lmao I didn't realize how much of a beta sol was XD reminds me of playing warriors on roblox w kids who don't read the book, not that there's anything wrong w that im all for enjoying ourselves. but reading an actual adult cat behave this way in a book just feels cringe lmao
(This comment is old as hell and ive become less cynical pls dont be offended 😭😭😭)
Why do warriors call calicos tortoiseshells, actual toirtoiseshells "bLack AnD rEd/bRoen" AND THEN MAKE MALES INTO TRICOLOUR CATS LIKE COME ON THATS BASIC CAT INFO ARE YOU KIDDING ME-
(Not talking about the creator of this video, but the warriors writers)
Honestly, i've no idea
@@dewnose8046 How? I wasnt talking about the person who made this video, but the whole now muffled ghost writers of warriors
Actually calicos are a type of tortoiseshells (which even in my language we don't have the word calico and I though all the cats that have two or three colours on their fur are tortoishells) and male cats are able to be tricoloured/tortoiseshells/calicos but it's very very rare and that's because of genetics
@@Makavita i.. i know
I study cat genetics LOL
Also this comment is a bit old-
Dont think my language has a word for calico either, we just call them tricoloured
@@eckoreckofantasy ahh oke and I study cat genetics aswell :D
The life of mapleshade?