Really living up to her namesake, going into drydock expecting weeks of hard work to get back in fighting condition, but emerging days later, fit to fight. Though, this Yorktown likely ended up being a bit cleaner and flashier than her WWII carrier counterpart. The Odyssey has really grown on me over the years since STO's second anniversary, and the Block II/S really cemented that, especially with the recent remaster.
Kind of, but this class is more named for the 23rd century heavy cruiser that was salvaged intact but with the entire crew dead as a result of life support failure. It was decommissioned - haunted, after all, and Starfleet has carried on the naval tradition of being superstitious - and recommissioned shortly thereafter as USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A.
Not only that, the Enterprise-F was retrofitted into this configuration, meaning that for the first time since the 1940s, the Enterprise is once again a "Yorktown-class" ship.
@@VipapkStudiosOfficial I know, I've been playing the game for years. I was thinking gamewise not lorewise. Some ship designs seems to be more concerned about the premium look, such as the Hestia a good ship design but the white material color does not seems to suit it as well the Odyssey's, which matches her graceful design. Also, some T6 ship designs don't look that good, such as the Alita (though there is a more uglier variant of the "heavy escort") and the the Andromeda. (The Cygnus is a better design and the white material suits her better.) I think it's worth noting that there is a lack of variation on T6 ships, meaning you don't have the option for varying ship design options and no mix and match options like you had before reaching level 50.
This is my favorite ship, it's so pretty. I've always treated one of the Odyssey variants as my main ship since they were first launched in the game. It's been great to see how it's evolved over time, with the introduction of the tier 6 versions, then the Legendary version, and now the new Lexington dreadnought. Such a great ship. This was a great video, too! I really enjoyed it!
Somehow I would think that the loss of trained specialists would be a heavier blow to capability of rebuilding the fleet then whatever rare resources Odyssey class might require.
to a degree this attitude is canon to STO, i dont remember where but quite early on its said 'We can build as many ships as we need, the trouble these days is finding people to captain them'
Though I haven't played in more than a year, I'm an enormous fan of the Odyssey, and flew the tactical variant (with the deployable Aquarius) for a couple of years! Damage output was never the best (because beam arrays) but that ship's absolutely silly staying-power and surprising utility never once let me down. Maybe I'll have to dust her off one of these days...
"Let's make sure that history never forgets the name "Enterprise".' The Odyssey class is hands down IMO one of the best designs in STO. The Lexenton class is now my flag in game. (Top) Hats off to the devs for making this flying piece of art!
Love the (presumably Demorecord) visuals you used. I particularly liked the homage to the First Contact scene where the ships concentrate fire at Picard's command, with the Ship rising into frame.
A ship that I've recently come to love and a showcase video that really does her justice. I'm so glad Spacedock is getting to work with Cryptic on these vids. Love the content you guys put out and looking forward to hopefully many more vids to come (STO and otherwise).
I like how the video at 4:05 replicate the scene from Star Trek First Contact's sector 001 battle. Now I am actually curious what happen to the other advanced design after the Iconian war (Prometheus, Vesta (USS Aventine)
The Prometheus frame became the Hestia, while the Vesta seems to have taken an Excelsior-style workhorse role (The only notable time I've seen an NPC Vesta was during the "Escort VIP" Officer of the Watch at the Fleet Starbase. There may have been one at the Battle of Jupiter Station at the beginning of Red Shift.)
Most of the Federation ships being put out now all stick with the new 25th century Starfleet aesthetic that the Odyssey-class created, and sticking with that aesthetic for pretty much all of the new designs being out in STO has created some truly beautiful ships.
I do like part of the ships design just which it was a little compact where the saucer section meets the neck and the secondary hull blends into the saucer just like the Enterprise-E
The whole reason I started playing STO was to get a good look at the Odyssey class and it quickly became my all time favourite Trek ship. The new Lexington Class is the only thing that's come close, can't wait to get my hands on it in-game
The Odessy class has really hit a peak with the new Lexington. Everything about it is "just right". Nothing too much, nothing not enough. It is, to my mind, one of the best ships they have ever produced.
The STO ships are beautiful. Definitely better than the new cbs designs. Their rendition of the Discovery Bird of Prey actually looks klingon while at the same time kept the Discovery version's general design, just look up M'Chla Bird of Prey refit.
Their rendition of the Crossfield class also looks far better. Slap a TOS hull sceme on it and it feels right at home. Using discoverys Nacells and the TMP hull also looks nice.
Noticed the new Yorktown class ships are bearing the names of the old Constitution fleet of the 23rd century. Enterprise, Yorktown, Lexington. Hoping for a Hood, Constitution and Constellation. My Yorktown class legendary Odyssey is named USS Yorktown NCC 1717-A making her the successor to the Constitution class Yorktown.
@@paulgrattan3885 [Gets out venerable Franz Joseph] Right you are. NCC-1017. Call it my being confused over the Constellation Class, and assuming the lead ship would bear that name.
I did wonder why Enterprise-F was referred to as Yorktown instead of Odyssey, makes sense now. Schrodinger's Enterprise, can be thought of as Odyssey and Yorktown... yeah, that works? 😂
Kinda. She was an Odyssey class when she first appeared during the Dominion occupation of DS9 and up to the final battle of the Iconian war, when she was badly damaged. We saw her again upgraded to the Yorktown class in the Hur'q attack on Bajor.
Yorktown, Lexington, Sojourner, and Endeavor are considered Odyssey subclasses. They're likely technically still Odysseys but the additional naming makes it clear what sub-role they're designed for.
The one time I played STO, I lasted long enough to get my Connie Refit. (Yeah, not long.) These videos are tempting me to give the game another try. Thank you for your always outstanding material! Looking forward to the next one!
Star Trek online truly shines in its space combat and music soundtrack. Ground combat is meh honestly, but they make up for this with really good storylines imo.
The Odyssey is one of my favorite designs in STO along with the Guardian Cruiser and the Narenda Support Cruiser...all three of them are classic Trek but with a modern sensibility. I own all three Odyssey Tier 6 variants, including this Yorktown. I now use the Mirror Lexington Dreadnought and holy crap that thing is amazing. Not only does it win at "Space Barbie" (the *true* endgame of STO!) but it is a ridiculously powerful and capable offensive ship in the game as well. All of the power and capability of an Odyssey, plus the multi-torpedo artillery console, plus a good starship trait to unlock, PLUS the spinal phaser lance, PLUS a hangar bay with shuttlecraft pets. Of course I'd hate to try and make an approach to that shuttlebay with that big torpedo pod's struts in the way...but it's a Terran Mirror Universe ship, so that's probably just how they weed out shuttlecraft pilots. :)
Being a Star Trek fan since the original series Starships like this gladden the heart and like many I can't wait for more stories like this long may it continue
Yeah, and then, the next vessel to succeed this super-capital ship was a 25 yo small Neo Constitution light explorer previously known as the Titan. Sure, probably every other ship would mob the floor with the Enterprise-G but hey, who says that the pride of Starfleet needs to be powerful. Or fast. Or big. Or impressive. Or new. I bet Kurtzman is going to christen a shuttle the Enterprise-H next time.
Love this design! Never played STO but it really does look and feel like something out of a post-Nemesis Federation… unlike certain other shows that I won’t name.
The ships look right, but the lore is a mess. The whole "we need more shipyards" arguement, DS9 had them building roughly a galaxy glass every week and a dozen other large cruisers too, those yards are only bigger by the STO. Building ships is easy, the hard part was never the ships, it was the crews. That and they rewrote the Iconians, the litteral species that seeded all life in the galaxy, to be some 2 bit species that the federation can even come close to fighting. The federation couldn't even beat the dominion in a fight, they beat a splinter of it, and even then only by using a bio-weapon.
@@cgi2002 I don't recall the Iconians _ever_ being stated to have "seeded all life in the galaxy"; those were the Preservers, *NOT* the Iconians. Also, I'd like to point out that the Federation, Klingon, Romulan, Dominion, & Delta Quadrant alliance didn't even come close to defeating the Iconians in a fair fight. It's only through attempts at Time Travel and sueing for peace that the war didn't end with an utter decimation of the Alliance.
@@Timjer92 your right, it wasn't the iconians, I was miss remembering. It also wasn't the preservers either however, they just transplanted populations (in the actual lore it was purposely left unclear, in the game they are the same race, so fair enough). It was an unnamed "ancient humanoid" race, they went around seeding planets which is the lore reason for so many species even so similar in appearance (bipedal humanoids). As for the war, fair enough, it's still one of those stupid "we managed to fight back" stories were in reality, the first strike would have been suns litterally detonating in every system they wanted gone. There would have been no fighting back, the war would have ended before we even knew it was happening. They've litterally been preparing for 200,000,000 years, I'm surprised they didn't just throw planets at each other for fun at that point at speeds greater than warp 9.9999, they have the technology to do it.
@@cgi2002 ??? Did you misremember the Iconian War? The Alliance lost nearly every battle with the Iconians. It took a desperate gamble and ultimately, compassion, to end the war.
@@ffnbbq no,i never really followed it. My point was it wouldn't be a war. This would be like mankind using a nuke to kill a mouse. There simply wouldn't be a war, it would be over the moment it began and we'd all be dead and never know what killed us, no battles, no plans, just instantly wiped out. The only race that could stand up to the Iconians would be the preservers/unknown humanoids (not counting Q, they are basically gods) as they are at an even greater tech level. The iconians are at a level that they could weaponize Omega, it's basically an "I win" button.
@Spacebock Just one small and minor Correction! The Lexington don't have saucer separation as the spinal lance are in the way (Just as on the Galaxy Dreadnaughts) :)
Thats incorrect, the Lexington can seperate like all the other Odyssey variants. Look up closely in the video where the seperation takes place at 2:46, there is a large triangular pod where the lance is mounted below that stays on the main hull. The Galaxy Dreadnought can seperate aswell in STO btw.
@@corlunae Wrong wrong wrong.. Also at 2:46 that is NOT the Lexington that's the YORKTOWN. AND I have BOTH Lextington AND the Galaxy Dreadnought in STO and no they can't NOT Separate
@@darth_yoda Lexington can separate, as well as other Odyssey class. You just need "Chevron Separation" console from t5 Oddy. As for Galaxy Dread. - you will need a console from t5 Galaxy Retrofit, as far I remember that's called "saucer separation" or something like it
The Yorktown class is my favorite ship in STO. I just love the design of it. However, I would love to have the ships in lore specifcs on the Wiki, instead of being told "this ship has 4 Weaponslots both front and aft"
Since spacedock loves them their Prometheus from star trek, can we get a video of ships with in shop design, or ways to make that work in your setting, or designs done right
As someone who played STO for quite a while, something doesn't add up. The Odyssey-class was initially released as Tier 5 3 pack variant - Eng, Sci, Tac. After that, we got the T6 Variants. Yorktown was part of that release, but the tactical variant was the Endeavor class. The Lexington is a much more recent ship and the way it is introduced it appeared (at least to me) as if it is entirely Terran design. I mean when you buy the Lexington you get a Federation paint scheme, but that is it. Even in the in-game store it is sold as Terran Dreadnought and you don't encounter Federation Lexington anywhere.
York town class is bad ass , along with the Odyssey class frames make a beast that I hope in canon will show its strength an not be hammerd an shields fall in 4 hits to 0 , let’s go York town class
Why do we see Carrier Strike Groups in Star Trek, like the Enterprise F would look fantastic with a small strike group that surrounds her at all times? or is it just me
love both the odyssey and Yorktown class, my ship the Astrea is a combination of both with the hull and nacelles of the Yorktown with the saucer and pylons of the odyssey (i like the swept back look far better)
I really liked the vamped up saucer section and more pronounced impulse engines. Really made the ship seam more sleek and graceful when flying through space. One thing I didn’t like tho were way the nacelle struts bent forward, kind of disrupted the profile & reminded me of the JJprise.
Ah the Yorktown, and the odyssey family of ships in general, always top tier designs from sto, the worse any of them get is the one that is very galaxy class-esk (sojourner class), but the rest are all elegant and perfect successors to the sovereign class
It occurred that the weapons platform on the Lexington probably is less to add extra weapons, but more to make up for the fact that the phaser lance is taking up the spot the torpedo launcher normally is.
It’s a nice thought that in a future we’ve yet to see, Starfleet isn’t scaled back or on the ropes. They’re back to constructing Titans that fully embody Starfleet’s core philosophies as the standard ship of the line.
Been a while since I've had time to see 'what's new (to me)' on Spacedock and other channels. Very nicely presented. And, what a beautiful ship, very fitting vessel and history to carry the name Enterprise.
As someone who doesn't play a lot of video games but is definitely interested in new designs coming out of STO, I love these videos and want lots more!
Prometheus could be flown by like 4 romulans. Even the Enterprise could be flown by a few old geezers in star trek 3 if only for a short period of time.
As for the Lexington class dreadnought cruiser, the central weapon pod need the torpedo 'launch tubes' have to face forward. Why not just design the torpedo tube like VLS-style launcher instead, facing upward? So the weapon don't have to be raise that high. Plus, the torpedoes themselves are maneuverable so which direction they face during launch didn't really matter.
I bought the Teir 5, and Teir 6 version of the Odyssey class, the Aquarius vessel that's nestled in the secondary hull, is the only feature that I have accessed. Are you telling me that Cryptic has introduced a NEW Teir of Federation starships?
I kept overlooking it, but the groove in the stardrive section passing through the split neck keeps telling me this ship could be a carrier. More over launching high speed vessels such as fighters and some classes of runabout, such as the Arrow/Griffon. But given the Odyssey and Yorktown are essentially battleships, a more purpose built vessel would be more in order. But then some Battleships used to have a small compliment of fighters for target spotting and scout missions. I think the limitations of a the Cochran-style Warp drive design prevents a more fully realized carrier design from being properly implemented. And no the fanon "USS Galactica" design, cool as it is, does not really work well under the Star Trek design ethos. But as aircraft carriers (IRL) are so wildly removed from the battleships they ultimately replaced, a spacecraft carrier in Starfleet would very likely look very little like other starfleet vessels.
The pass-through is part of the design for allowing better transwarp and/or quantum slipstream. Though it's still a limited technology in the 2410s, vessels designed optimally can make solid use of it.
The Legendary version of the Odyssey/Yorktown/Verity ect as well as the new Lexington class can carry two wings of fighters in addition to the Aquarius. For a through-deck carrier, check out the game's recently remastered Concorde class Command Battlecruiser.
I hate the void space between the saucer and secondary hull, but otherwise love its sleek frame, now sure I like the idea of Starfleet using spinal weapons, but it is a cool concept. Also I'd love you guys to cover some Nexus: the Jupiter Incident ships, I think all the ships from Vardrag to the Solar System ships all have such a lovely design aesthetic, and the Gorgs and Vardrags conform pretty well to the alien ship designs. Another awesome video though guys.
I believe originally the empty space was an attempt in making the entier structure more stable during slipstream flight, which would explain the 0.3 speed increase on the base ship compared to my galaxy dreadnought, it feels a little empty to me too so it sort of makes me feel something is missing too
Yorktown/Lexington "relationship"(shared parts communality, can easily use crews familiar to sister ship without retraining, covers the weakness of other ship in combat/exploration roles, etc.) make me want to ask - why isn't Federation assigning pairs of ships for patrol and exploration? What is the source of that solo exploratory tradition? Why? I know it was part of the theme of Star Trek from the beginning, but why?0_o
@@entropy11 Ships like the Galaxy class, and this one, are designed to nearly be mobile starbases, and not have to come back to the UFP for decades. You're better able to cover more territory this way and ideally each ship, of these types, should be able to handle nearly anything it comes across. Obviously, the Galaxy class turned out to be a glass cannon a lot of the time, which is why you got the Sovereign class and later on others in STO. (You didn't see this in TNG, with it running back to Earth multiple times.)
@@Corbomite_Meatballs and if something goes wrong with the ship then you don't have secondary vessel to take in at least a part of the crew onboard or whom would be able to share spare parts or provide support in case of ambush. Imagine Columbus and other explorers trying to voyage on single ship?;)
The Yorktown variant definitely improves on the Odyssey. I just wish they got rid of that negative space at the neck, and gave it larger pylons; they are too thin.
@@starliner2498 Yes, I've heard the reasoning behind it. I still despise negative spaces in Star Fleet ships. Although, out of all the ships I've seen, that Odyssey and Discoprise have the least offensive use of negative space.
Nah 1000 meter long ship is good enough I mean most battleships in EVE Online is around and over that. But then we got Warhammer 40k which 1km long ships is considered small
Honestly I think the Kilometer mark for a Supercaptial class is fairly reasonable considering both the technology of the main Star Trek races (key word main) and the setting they are in.
Star Trek in general had smaller size ships compared to other Scifi franchises, but the Enterprise E was about 700+ meters and the Scimitar was massive. So maybe not too out there. To each their own.
Good question, I wonder that too. In the real world, the capitcal ship class usually seems to define the most powerful and strongest ship classes that might lead a naval fleet or engagement. Like in Age of Sail, the Royal Navy had designated a ship class from 1 to whatever (mostly defined by the number of guns they had), and the top 4 were considered capital ships. I guess super-capitcal is a way to distinguish the ship that is really the top of these classes - or basically exceeds previous class definitions. Of course, everything is complicated by there are also being technological advancements to consider. The Galaxy Class (certainly a Capital ship) didn't have acess to stuf like quantum torpedoes or slipstream drive yet when it was designed, but the Sovereign had. Merely counting guns in Star Trek doesn't really work so cleanly with phaser strips, though. I guess maybe one could call a ship "super-capitcal" that even if you were to upgrade somethnig like the Galaxy or Sovereign fully to 2410 era tech, they would still be "less" by most metrics than the Yorktown. It definitely still has a bigger crew, and likely still would have more firepower, a more powerful warp core, faster warp drive ,more support craft, more sensor arrays and what not. Chances are, though, that a "Super-Capital" denotion is not forever - the Universe Class would likely be a super-capitcal in its era, and even an Oddy fully upgraded to the Unvierse Class tech level would now be only capital (if that, depending on what other classes exist in that era.)
I see this and I think of the Star Trek legacy ship that used the same class name. While many differences from the obvious fact the Legacy ship was an enterprise era ship that was that games link between tos and ent. They actually have a similar profile with reverse nacelle pylons that come off the engineering hull and having a fairly sleek profile.
Would love to see you guys tackle the Titan-class science destroyer. It’s personally my favorite ship in the game and I’d love to hear more about its role in starfleet!
When the OG design won the contest back in 2012, the guy who drew it said he based the Odyssey class as an evolution of the Sovereign. The Odyssey is a Super Sovereign.
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@RealityCheck how about some forward looking constitution class starships
Have u done a luna class breakdown
What if all sto ships in The Motion Picture styled?
The Odyssey is hands-down my favorite STO design. A worthy successor to the name "Enterprise".
Yea Odyssey class made no sence to me.
@@timesthree5757 to think it was a fan design too.
@@lengen179 I ment made no sence to me. Their Corrected it.
Hands down my favorite as well.. And I love the Lexington Dreadnaught sooo much to.. Just a damn show it don't have the Oddy bridge ingame :P
@@darth_yoda why the Ships looks like fan art and is trash.
Really living up to her namesake, going into drydock expecting weeks of hard work to get back in fighting condition, but emerging days later, fit to fight. Though, this Yorktown likely ended up being a bit cleaner and flashier than her WWII carrier counterpart.
The Odyssey has really grown on me over the years since STO's second anniversary, and the Block II/S really cemented that, especially with the recent remaster.
That is a remarkable story. Yorktown
Kind of, but this class is more named for the 23rd century heavy cruiser that was salvaged intact but with the entire crew dead as a result of life support failure. It was decommissioned - haunted, after all, and Starfleet has carried on the naval tradition of being superstitious - and recommissioned shortly thereafter as USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A.
Not only that, the Enterprise-F was retrofitted into this configuration, meaning that for the first time since the 1940s, the Enterprise is once again a "Yorktown-class" ship.
I love STO canon and ships. They do a great job in integrating older and newer Trek shows in their own well thought out canon.
sto ship design > STDSC ship design for sure
I love my Mercury class pilot ship, but it never seams to get any love.
Agree, we get to know what happen to the USS Voyager crew etc. Very expensive lore expansion
Always nice to see STO designs featured.
They continued and advanced the tradition of classic Trek ship design back when no one else did.
Yes indeed. I have noticed in some areas, that they seem to be overusing the premium look.
That's because they had the licensing to do so when no one else did.
@@Soundwave142 it's the 25th century refit design of those ships because STO takes place in 2409-2411
@@VipapkStudiosOfficial I know, I've been playing the game for years. I was thinking gamewise not lorewise. Some ship designs seems to be more concerned about the premium look, such as the Hestia a good ship design but the white material color does not seems to suit it as well the Odyssey's, which matches her graceful design. Also, some T6 ship designs don't look that good, such as the Alita (though there is a more uglier variant of the "heavy escort") and the the Andromeda. (The Cygnus is a better design and the white material suits her better.)
I think it's worth noting that there is a lack of variation on T6 ships, meaning you don't have the option for varying ship design options and no mix and match options like you had before reaching level 50.
@@Soundwave142 it's a good thing those ships will be all slowly remastered :D
This is my favorite ship, it's so pretty. I've always treated one of the Odyssey variants as my main ship since they were first launched in the game. It's been great to see how it's evolved over time, with the introduction of the tier 6 versions, then the Legendary version, and now the new Lexington dreadnought. Such a great ship.
This was a great video, too! I really enjoyed it!
Somehow I would think that the loss of trained specialists would be a heavier blow to capability of rebuilding the fleet then whatever rare resources Odyssey class might require.
Depends how hard Starfleet leaned-in on using AI-powered androids and holograms to handle mundane tasks.
@@deusexaethera good point. But I believe when they mention 1500 crew they don't mention onboard AI or maybe even androids:(
@@TheArklyte : Why? That would be racist.
to a degree this attitude is canon to STO, i dont remember where but quite early on its said 'We can build as many ships as we need, the trouble these days is finding people to captain them'
@@thebronzedragon1 it's also how they explain the fast speed your character can become an admiral
Though I haven't played in more than a year, I'm an enormous fan of the Odyssey, and flew the tactical variant (with the deployable Aquarius) for a couple of years!
Damage output was never the best (because beam arrays) but that ship's absolutely silly staying-power and surprising utility never once let me down.
Maybe I'll have to dust her off one of these days...
"Let's make sure that history never forgets the name "Enterprise".'
The Odyssey class is hands down IMO one of the best designs in STO.
The Lexenton class is now my flag in game.
(Top) Hats off to the devs for making this flying piece of art!
I absolutely adore the Odyssey class and her Yorktown subclass. Easily my favorite ship in all of science fiction.
Love the (presumably Demorecord) visuals you used. I particularly liked the homage to the First Contact scene where the ships concentrate fire at Picard's command, with the Ship rising into frame.
A ship that I've recently come to love and a showcase video that really does her justice. I'm so glad Spacedock is getting to work with Cryptic on these vids. Love the content you guys put out and looking forward to hopefully many more vids to come (STO and otherwise).
I like how the video at 4:05 replicate the scene from Star Trek First Contact's sector 001 battle. Now I am actually curious what happen to the other advanced design after the Iconian war (Prometheus, Vesta (USS Aventine)
The Prometheus frame became the Hestia, while the Vesta seems to have taken an Excelsior-style workhorse role (The only notable time I've seen an NPC Vesta was during the "Escort VIP" Officer of the Watch at the Fleet Starbase. There may have been one at the Battle of Jupiter Station at the beginning of Red Shift.)
I enjoyed how the lore, for example that stats, is not based in game but in Star Trek Canon.
*beta canon
@@OldClassTreky True, I should have said, “as if.”
The visuals in this video were great. Well done.
I wish it's companion in the fleet, the Avenger was slightly larger. It's barely 300 meters but takes a lot of design language from the Odysseys.
Most of the Federation ships being put out now all stick with the new 25th century Starfleet aesthetic that the Odyssey-class created, and sticking with that aesthetic for pretty much all of the new designs being out in STO has created some truly beautiful ships.
I do like part of the ships design just which it was a little compact where the saucer section meets the neck and the secondary hull blends into the saucer just like the Enterprise-E
Odyssey and Yorktown. Two BEAUTIFUL designs... among so many others.
The whole reason I started playing STO was to get a good look at the Odyssey class and it quickly became my all time favourite Trek ship. The new Lexington Class is the only thing that's come close, can't wait to get my hands on it in-game
The Odessy class has really hit a peak with the new Lexington. Everything about it is "just right". Nothing too much, nothing not enough. It is, to my mind, one of the best ships they have ever produced.
I absolutely adore my Lexington, great video!
LOL "Keenser/Pegg Heavy Impulse Engines". Nice touch
The sweeping shots you do for the visuals look like they could be lifted right from a series. Very well done Sir!
The STO ships are beautiful. Definitely better than the new cbs designs. Their rendition of the Discovery Bird of Prey actually looks klingon while at the same time kept the Discovery version's general design, just look up M'Chla Bird of Prey refit.
Their rendition of the Crossfield class also looks far better. Slap a TOS hull sceme on it and it feels right at home. Using discoverys Nacells and the TMP hull also looks nice.
Everything looks better than the Bad Robot Designs
@@rookangelofmercy7283 I don't know, the Franklin looks far better than Discovery imo.
@@zafranorbian757 the Franklin was designed by Sean Hargreave, he is not involved in the production of Discovery or any other nuTrek movies.
Beautiful ship! So much better than everything on screen for the last 1,5 decades!
Engaging video which brings vivid life to STO ideas.
Please do more Star Trek Online videos!
We finally have an Andorian as a Captain of the Enterprise.
Blue Antennae Matter. (IIRC, he's a descendant of ENT's Shran.)
I do love the the odyssey classes. Though my favorite is the original look. I'm all about the spot swept back pylons
Noticed the new Yorktown class ships are bearing the names of the old Constitution fleet of the 23rd century. Enterprise, Yorktown, Lexington. Hoping for a Hood, Constitution and Constellation. My Yorktown class legendary Odyssey is named USS Yorktown NCC 1717-A making her the successor to the Constitution class Yorktown.
that's a pretty long gap between the 1717 and the 1717-A don't you think? :)
Constellation (Picard's old Stargazer) wasn't a Connie.
@@MichaelBirks The USS Constellation was a Connie mate it was used by Kirk to suicide ram the Doomsday Machine in TOS.
@@paulgrattan3885 [Gets out venerable Franz Joseph] Right you are. NCC-1017.
Call it my being confused over the Constellation Class, and assuming the lead ship would bear that name.
I did wonder why Enterprise-F was referred to as Yorktown instead of Odyssey, makes sense now. Schrodinger's Enterprise, can be thought of as Odyssey and Yorktown... yeah, that works? 😂
Kinda.
She was an Odyssey class when she first appeared during the Dominion occupation of DS9 and up to the final battle of the Iconian war, when she was badly damaged.
We saw her again upgraded to the Yorktown class in the Hur'q attack on Bajor.
Yorktown, Lexington, Sojourner, and Endeavor are considered Odyssey subclasses. They're likely technically still Odysseys but the additional naming makes it clear what sub-role they're designed for.
It's like when the Essex class carriers were retrofitted with an angled flight deck. It's still the original Essex's bones but so much more.
The one time I played STO, I lasted long enough to get my Connie Refit. (Yeah, not long.) These videos are tempting me to give the game another try. Thank you for your always outstanding material! Looking forward to the next one!
Star Trek online truly shines in its space combat and music soundtrack. Ground combat is meh honestly, but they make up for this with really good storylines imo.
@@aresthecrazy9335 The Iconian Arc is peak writing, absolutely. Also, have just replayed the wonder that is "Quark's Lucky Seven". ::chef's kiss::
The Odyssey is one of my favorite designs in STO along with the Guardian Cruiser and the Narenda Support Cruiser...all three of them are classic Trek but with a modern sensibility. I own all three Odyssey Tier 6 variants, including this Yorktown. I now use the Mirror Lexington Dreadnought and holy crap that thing is amazing. Not only does it win at "Space Barbie" (the *true* endgame of STO!) but it is a ridiculously powerful and capable offensive ship in the game as well. All of the power and capability of an Odyssey, plus the multi-torpedo artillery console, plus a good starship trait to unlock, PLUS the spinal phaser lance, PLUS a hangar bay with shuttlecraft pets. Of course I'd hate to try and make an approach to that shuttlebay with that big torpedo pod's struts in the way...but it's a Terran Mirror Universe ship, so that's probably just how they weed out shuttlecraft pilots. :)
Being a Star Trek fan since the original series Starships like this gladden the heart and like many I can't wait for more stories like this long may it continue
A terrific second installment in your STO series! Great video guys!
Yeah, and then, the next vessel to succeed this super-capital ship was a 25 yo small Neo Constitution light explorer previously known as the Titan. Sure, probably every other ship would mob the floor with the Enterprise-G but hey, who says that the pride of Starfleet needs to be powerful. Or fast. Or big. Or impressive. Or new. I bet Kurtzman is going to christen a shuttle the Enterprise-H next time.
lol
Love this design! Never played STO but it really does look and feel like something out of a post-Nemesis Federation… unlike certain other shows that I won’t name.
The ships look right, but the lore is a mess. The whole "we need more shipyards" arguement, DS9 had them building roughly a galaxy glass every week and a dozen other large cruisers too, those yards are only bigger by the STO. Building ships is easy, the hard part was never the ships, it was the crews.
That and they rewrote the Iconians, the litteral species that seeded all life in the galaxy, to be some 2 bit species that the federation can even come close to fighting. The federation couldn't even beat the dominion in a fight, they beat a splinter of it, and even then only by using a bio-weapon.
@@cgi2002 I don't recall the Iconians _ever_ being stated to have "seeded all life in the galaxy"; those were the Preservers, *NOT* the Iconians.
Also, I'd like to point out that the Federation, Klingon, Romulan, Dominion, & Delta Quadrant alliance didn't even come close to defeating the Iconians in a fair fight. It's only through attempts at Time Travel and sueing for peace that the war didn't end with an utter decimation of the Alliance.
@@Timjer92 your right, it wasn't the iconians, I was miss remembering. It also wasn't the preservers either however, they just transplanted populations (in the actual lore it was purposely left unclear, in the game they are the same race, so fair enough). It was an unnamed "ancient humanoid" race, they went around seeding planets which is the lore reason for so many species even so similar in appearance (bipedal humanoids).
As for the war, fair enough, it's still one of those stupid "we managed to fight back" stories were in reality, the first strike would have been suns litterally detonating in every system they wanted gone. There would have been no fighting back, the war would have ended before we even knew it was happening. They've litterally been preparing for 200,000,000 years, I'm surprised they didn't just throw planets at each other for fun at that point at speeds greater than warp 9.9999, they have the technology to do it.
@@cgi2002 ??? Did you misremember the Iconian War? The Alliance lost nearly every battle with the Iconians. It took a desperate gamble and ultimately, compassion, to end the war.
@@ffnbbq no,i never really followed it. My point was it wouldn't be a war. This would be like mankind using a nuke to kill a mouse. There simply wouldn't be a war, it would be over the moment it began and we'd all be dead and never know what killed us, no battles, no plans, just instantly wiped out. The only race that could stand up to the Iconians would be the preservers/unknown humanoids (not counting Q, they are basically gods) as they are at an even greater tech level.
The iconians are at a level that they could weaponize Omega, it's basically an "I win" button.
Whoa, Whoa and Whoa I needed this and love the battles animations shown
More please
Odyssey class and York class here is my two favorite ship classes I like how they put them together
Honestly, having a Yorktown class ship named Enterprise, even if it is a refit, is such a great homage to the one that gave her name the fame she has.
This ship is hands-down my favorite newer starship design in the entirety of Star Trek. I'm using it right now in STO 💪🏾
@Spacebock Just one small and minor Correction! The Lexington don't have saucer separation as the spinal lance are in the way (Just as on the Galaxy Dreadnaughts) :)
Thats incorrect, the Lexington can seperate like all the other Odyssey variants. Look up closely in the video where the seperation takes place at 2:46, there is a large triangular pod where the lance is mounted below that stays on the main hull. The Galaxy Dreadnought can seperate aswell in STO btw.
@@corlunae Wrong wrong wrong.. Also at 2:46 that is NOT the Lexington that's the YORKTOWN. AND I have BOTH Lextington AND the Galaxy Dreadnought in STO and no they can't NOT Separate
@@darth_yoda Lexington can separate, as well as other Odyssey class.
You just need "Chevron Separation" console from t5 Oddy.
As for Galaxy Dread. - you will need a console from t5 Galaxy Retrofit, as far I remember that's called "saucer separation" or something like it
Nice , also would've been nice if the torpedo pod swiveled on its ark like a real world tank gun , awesome thought tho if it doesn't do this it should
It has launchers on all 4 sides, so it can already fire in all directions without turning, and better yet can fire in all directions simultaneously.
Would love to see the Obena class from Lower Decks in STO. Instantly fell in love with that design as soon as it showed up.
The Yorktown class is my favorite ship in STO. I just love the design of it. However, I would love to have the ships in lore specifcs on the Wiki, instead of being told "this ship has 4 Weaponslots both front and aft"
Since spacedock loves them their Prometheus from star trek, can we get a video of ships with in shop design, or ways to make that work in your setting, or designs done right
WOOOHOOO!!!! great animation work by Pundus!!! brilliant stuff!
Well, after seeing the beginning of the vid, I can see how the Iconians stayed in power for a while before being overthrown
Nice to see this, hope to see more. I recently started playing again as KDF. Using the Klingon equivalent of the York town class
As someone who played STO for quite a while, something doesn't add up. The Odyssey-class was initially released as Tier 5 3 pack variant - Eng, Sci, Tac. After that, we got the T6 Variants. Yorktown was part of that release, but the tactical variant was the Endeavor class. The Lexington is a much more recent ship and the way it is introduced it appeared (at least to me) as if it is entirely Terran design. I mean when you buy the Lexington you get a Federation paint scheme, but that is it. Even in the in-game store it is sold as Terran Dreadnought and you don't encounter Federation Lexington anywhere.
The Terran Emperor Protects!
There needs to be a new series onboard the Yorktown-class Enterprise.
Okay, I love the Lexington showing up. Nice!
GOD I LOVE THESE VIDEOS! every time i watch one, it makes me want to drop all my work and sign in online for a quick mission.
Always amuses me when the Enterprise is referred to as a "Flagship", when she's virtually never commanded by a flag-rank officer...
York town class is bad ass , along with the Odyssey class frames make a beast that I hope in canon will show its strength an not be hammerd an shields fall in 4 hits to 0 , let’s go York town class
So, if I'm understanding it correctly, the Unified Field Emitters are essentially Effectors from the Cultureverse?
My absolute favorite ship design. And my flagship of my fleet of ships on STO looks even better with the update they made
Why do we see Carrier Strike Groups in Star Trek, like the Enterprise F would look fantastic with a small strike group that surrounds her at all times? or is it just me
I love how the federation is always willing to negotiate and be peaceful...but not above saying ''alright violence it is then'' when they need to.
love both the odyssey and Yorktown class, my ship the Astrea is a combination of both with the hull and nacelles of the Yorktown with the saucer and pylons of the odyssey (i like the swept back look far better)
A heavy cruiser with 5-6 of those Aquarius escorts berthed on the saucer and a torpedo pod would be OP af.
The Lexington class has the Aquarius, but can also launch two wings of fighters.
The best thing of the Oddy is it's Bridge. One of the best Torpedo Boats and the trait is excellent.
Gorgeous visuals! great work!
I really liked the vamped up saucer section and more pronounced impulse engines. Really made the ship seam more sleek and graceful when flying through space. One thing I didn’t like tho were way the nacelle struts bent forward, kind of disrupted the profile & reminded me of the JJprise.
Ah the Yorktown, and the odyssey family of ships in general, always top tier designs from sto, the worse any of them get is the one that is very galaxy class-esk (sojourner class), but the rest are all elegant and perfect successors to the sovereign class
I appreciate the new visual effects on the info section, but TH-cam compression does not work well with the interlaced and faint glow effects.
I used to love playing my intel dreadnought but now if I want to play a decent space game star citizen is the way to go
If I want to shoot at things more than 10km away, I stop winning at Eve Online.
Awesome, love the STO ship videos!
It occurred that the weapons platform on the Lexington probably is less to add extra weapons, but more to make up for the fact that the phaser lance is taking up the spot the torpedo launcher normally is.
Federation said "f around and find out".
This is my main ship...be flying her or him, since the release...haven't hit the ceiling for maximum potential yet. But is fun to fly.
Such a great video. I always love to fly the Odyssey class when playing STO. Looking forward to your next video.
Great video, I hope to see more of these because I love STO ship design. Especially the Romulan Republic's!
It's like voyager and the enterprise had a baby and I freaking love it.
Would love to see the Yorktowns heavier war horse sister, the Endeavour class
It’s a nice thought that in a future we’ve yet to see, Starfleet isn’t scaled back or on the ropes. They’re back to constructing Titans that fully embody Starfleet’s core philosophies as the standard ship of the line.
Been a while since I've had time to see 'what's new (to me)' on Spacedock and other channels. Very nicely presented. And, what a beautiful ship, very fitting vessel and history to carry the name Enterprise.
As someone who doesn't play a lot of video games but is definitely interested in new designs coming out of STO, I love these videos and want lots more!
The Aquarius class has a crew of five on a vessel with four decks. Doesn't that seem strange?
Automation?
Prometheus could be flown by like 4 romulans. Even the Enterprise could be flown by a few old geezers in star trek 3 if only for a short period of time.
Very pretty ship. Love the Nacelles!
As for the Lexington class dreadnought cruiser, the central weapon pod need the torpedo 'launch tubes' have to face forward.
Why not just design the torpedo tube like VLS-style launcher instead, facing upward? So the weapon don't have to be raise that high.
Plus, the torpedoes themselves are maneuverable so which direction they face during launch didn't really matter.
Excellent! You gotta love that Yorktown Class ship!! Awesome!
Oh yeah! Keep doing these!
I have an Odyssey and the newer Guardian. I just wish the Odyssey bridge could be incorporated in the other ship designs.
I bought the Teir 5, and Teir 6 version of the Odyssey class, the Aquarius vessel that's nestled in the secondary hull, is the only feature that I have accessed.
Are you telling me that Cryptic has introduced a NEW Teir of Federation starships?
I kept overlooking it, but the groove in the stardrive section passing through the split neck keeps telling me this ship could be a carrier. More over launching high speed vessels such as fighters and some classes of runabout, such as the Arrow/Griffon.
But given the Odyssey and Yorktown are essentially battleships, a more purpose built vessel would be more in order. But then some Battleships used to have a small compliment of fighters for target spotting and scout missions.
I think the limitations of a the Cochran-style Warp drive design prevents a more fully realized carrier design from being properly implemented. And no the fanon "USS Galactica" design, cool as it is, does not really work well under the Star Trek design ethos. But as aircraft carriers (IRL) are so wildly removed from the battleships they ultimately replaced, a spacecraft carrier in Starfleet would very likely look very little like other starfleet vessels.
The pass-through is part of the design for allowing better transwarp and/or quantum slipstream. Though it's still a limited technology in the 2410s, vessels designed optimally can make solid use of it.
The Legendary version of the Odyssey/Yorktown/Verity ect as well as the new Lexington class can carry two wings of fighters in addition to the Aquarius. For a through-deck carrier, check out the game's recently remastered Concorde class Command Battlecruiser.
Odyssey Class is behind Nebula and Steamrunner for me so I love it.
I hate the void space between the saucer and secondary hull, but otherwise love its sleek frame, now sure I like the idea of Starfleet using spinal weapons, but it is a cool concept. Also I'd love you guys to cover some Nexus: the Jupiter Incident ships, I think all the ships from Vardrag to the Solar System ships all have such a lovely design aesthetic, and the Gorgs and Vardrags conform pretty well to the alien ship designs.
Another awesome video though guys.
I believe originally the empty space was an attempt in making the entier structure more stable during slipstream flight, which would explain the 0.3 speed increase on the base ship compared to my galaxy dreadnought, it feels a little empty to me too so it sort of makes me feel something is missing too
That Spinal weapon is a dead giveaway - the Lexington is a TERRAN design.. It's an Agony Phaser.
Yorktown/Lexington "relationship"(shared parts communality, can easily use crews familiar to sister ship without retraining, covers the weakness of other ship in combat/exploration roles, etc.) make me want to ask - why isn't Federation assigning pairs of ships for patrol and exploration? What is the source of that solo exploratory tradition? Why? I know it was part of the theme of Star Trek from the beginning, but why?0_o
idk more than one ship might be seen as overly threatening when encountering new civilizations.
@@entropy11 Ships like the Galaxy class, and this one, are designed to nearly be mobile starbases, and not have to come back to the UFP for decades.
You're better able to cover more territory this way and ideally each ship, of these types, should be able to handle nearly anything it comes across.
Obviously, the Galaxy class turned out to be a glass cannon a lot of the time, which is why you got the Sovereign class and later on others in STO.
(You didn't see this in TNG, with it running back to Earth multiple times.)
@@Corbomite_Meatballs and if something goes wrong with the ship then you don't have secondary vessel to take in at least a part of the crew onboard or whom would be able to share spare parts or provide support in case of ambush.
Imagine Columbus and other explorers trying to voyage on single ship?;)
Pls make a video about Concorde class or other C3 ships.
Yes, thank you!
Please cover the Inquiry-class.
The Yorktown variant definitely improves on the Odyssey. I just wish they got rid of that negative space at the neck, and gave it larger pylons; they are too thin.
IIRC, the designer's plan was to have the necks (and part of the hull) form a Vulcan style warp ring when separated.
Cannonically that negative space mitigates a lot of the subspace drag and allows the use of a longer duration quantum slipstream drive (iirc)
@@starliner2498 Yes, I've heard the reasoning behind it. I still despise negative spaces in Star Fleet ships. Although, out of all the ships I've seen, that Odyssey and Discoprise have the least offensive use of negative space.
Two Necks Good, One Neck Not so good!
I love that Odyssey negative space, and was kinda sad for the reinforcement pylon breaking it up in this design lol
Another Eaglemoss commercial….I’m fine with that lol! 👍🏾👍🏾
It sure is a snazzy looking ship. Good redesign of the previous ship. Powerful impulse engines.
Great vid. I love STO content even though I don’t play it. It’s ships and canon are a far better addition to Trek than the new stuff from the studios.
I adore this design as much as almost any other STO ship, but Star Trek ships in my opinion from the TNG era onwards have gotten a little _too_ big.
Yeah, I love my Arbiter but it's crazy half the time warping in and surrounded by ships 3x my size lol...
Nah 1000 meter long ship is good enough I mean most battleships in EVE Online is around and over that. But then we got Warhammer 40k which 1km long ships is considered small
Honestly I think the Kilometer mark for a Supercaptial class is fairly reasonable considering both the technology of the main Star Trek races (key word main) and the setting they are in.
Star Trek in general had smaller size ships compared to other Scifi franchises, but the Enterprise E was about 700+ meters and the Scimitar was massive. So maybe not too out there. To each their own.
Very cool. What's the difference between a capital vessel and a super capital vessel?
Good question, I wonder that too.
In the real world, the capitcal ship class usually seems to define the most powerful and strongest ship classes that might lead a naval fleet or engagement. Like in Age of Sail, the Royal Navy had designated a ship class from 1 to whatever (mostly defined by the number of guns they had), and the top 4 were considered capital ships.
I guess super-capitcal is a way to distinguish the ship that is really the top of these classes - or basically exceeds previous class definitions.
Of course, everything is complicated by there are also being technological advancements to consider. The Galaxy Class (certainly a Capital ship) didn't have acess to stuf like quantum torpedoes or slipstream drive yet when it was designed, but the Sovereign had. Merely counting guns in Star Trek doesn't really work so cleanly with phaser strips, though. I guess maybe one could call a ship "super-capitcal" that even if you were to upgrade somethnig like the Galaxy or Sovereign fully to 2410 era tech, they would still be "less" by most metrics than the Yorktown. It definitely still has a bigger crew, and likely still would have more firepower, a more powerful warp core, faster warp drive ,more support craft, more sensor arrays and what not.
Chances are, though, that a "Super-Capital" denotion is not forever - the Universe Class would likely be a super-capitcal in its era, and even an Oddy fully upgraded to the Unvierse Class tech level would now be only capital (if that, depending on what other classes exist in that era.)
I see this and I think of the Star Trek legacy ship that used the same class name. While many differences from the obvious fact the Legacy ship was an enterprise era ship that was that games link between tos and ent. They actually have a similar profile with reverse nacelle pylons that come off the engineering hull and having a fairly sleek profile.
Would love to see you guys tackle the Titan-class science destroyer. It’s personally my favorite ship in the game and I’d love to hear more about its role in starfleet!
The Star Trek Online canon is better than the official canon that came out post DS9/Nemesis, you can't change my mind.
So, the Sovereign's been my favorite design ever since First Contact, but I think the Yorktown might just have it beat; damn, this thing is sexy!
When the OG design won the contest back in 2012, the guy who drew it said he based the Odyssey class as an evolution of the Sovereign. The Odyssey is a Super Sovereign.