WATCH THIS before buying a USED Tesla Model 3 | ReDriven used car review
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If you're after a used Tesla Model 3, who can blame you? They're undoubtedly one of the coolest cars you can buy. Plus, they're the picture of what the future of motoring holds.
But, they're not even close to perfect and there's a few things you should watch out for if you're in the market for one.
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00:00 - Intro
00:21 - What is it?
02:36 - What's it like to drive?
05:39 - How's the interior?
09:49 - Tech & safety?
12:48 - What goes wrong?
18:59 - How much is it?
19:18 - Fuel use, warranty & servicing
20:52 - Should you buy it?
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I don’t have an issue with Tesla owners unless they tell me they are saving the planet.
Nothing ain't saving the planet, while driving a near 2 ton hunk of steel on wheels. Electric cars maybe will just delay the climate problems, but far from saving it.
"If you own one, Don't be a Dick about it" quote of the year contender right there.
lol the only dicks are the ones that don’t know anything about EVs but blabber all day long while never even giving one a chance. 99.9% of EV owners accept other people’s opinions and move on, very well knowing that you’re not worth arguing. It’s the ice car owners that can’t seem to accept the future lol
I don't know any Tesla owners who are dicks about it. But I do know a lot of ICE trucks and Chargers that are constant dicks.
Picked up a 2018 M3LR in 2020 with 50k miles. It is now about to turn 130k miles (150 mile daily commute and lots of cross country road trips) with zero issues. All I've done is tires and windshield washer fluid. It has been a great car. It still gets about 95% of the advertised range (in the summer of course..haha).
Yes the button issue can be an issue for some. But volume is on the steering wheel and you can control the aircon and navigation with voice control. So I'm never really touching the screen all that much when driving.
Love the fact he called out some owners for being pricks. Great honesty from a great presenter and channel, for a great and unbiased review. The fact they treated you the way they did makes me so happy that so much goes wrong with these 😂
And here you prove that it's not just the Tesla owners that are the dicks 🤣🤣🤣
Tesla ultra-fanboys are so bloody obnoxious. In fact the only people more obnoxious than them are Tesla haters lol
@@sjwright2 we’re obnoxious, for hating people who are “bloody obnoxious”? Right.
@@reaperxi-0382 You can hate those obnoxious twats as much as you like. I hate them too. But saying you're "so happy that so much goes wrong with these" is just hating on the car, and the car itself isn't obnoxious.
@@sjwright2 happy it goes wrong, for those obnoxious people to deal with. Never once said the car is obnoxious, genius.
Pretty much the rule is the newer it is in build year, the better the overall quality is. The 2022+ Made in China versions are pretty much perfect build quality or as close any you could reasonably expect based on price. I've had an early American one and now a 2022 Chinese one, the quality disparity is pretty obvious.
Main things missing are blind spot indicators in the window housing and no 360 birds eye view.
I also noticed lots of noise from the front end, which is the fairly complicated cooling system superbottle adjusting itself, some people might be put off at first, because noises like that in a normal car would indicate something being horribly broken.
I think the 12V battery issue has been resolved, they moved to a little 14V lithium battery which is supposed to sort it.
In my experience the range per the display which is from what I understand the EPA rating, it pretty spot on with highway type driving. I get about 500km at 110km/h if you are comfortable driving the battery down to low charge.
Spot on with the big wheels comment, it really hides the girth on the side.
Second hand prices are bit hard to swallow though, COVID prices and low supply really made them too high.
M3 SR+ owner since June 2019. As always, this was a fair and entertaining review! All the complaints were spot on and consistent with my experience. Thank you for all that you do. I would like to add however that even with the low range of my M3 (210 mi now because of battery degradation from 240 mi brand new) my wife and I still prefer to take the Tesla on road trips (400miles!+) rather than the ICE vehicle. Charging is pretty quick, forces us to take regular breaks, and Autopilot makes the highway miles very stress-free.
The recommendation is that the battery should be charged to a maximum of 80% most of the time. and that the battery should not should not be at a low battery level for several days. This causes the battery to age much faster. low level means below 20%. and don't use fast charger often. a tip could also be to tell the trip computer where you are going so that the battery is heated before you get to the charging station. although perhaps more relevant in colder countries than Australia. Batteries do not want to be too hot or too cold
we have a different way of calculating here in Sweden for here 10 km is 1 mile. but if my iPhone is right, your range has decreased by about 50 kilometers and soon you will have had the car for four years
@@Andersljungberg Depends on the battery, Tesla have used multiple different suppliers at least for the Australian market and the new SR/RWD trims have LFP batteries, which due to their chemistry prefer being regularly charged to 100% and very low discharge levels don't really have a negative effect.
Was it spot on that it takes you "38 hours to charge from 0 to 100%"? I don't know about you but my car has never been at 0% and rarely at 100%. I use it normally, plug it overnight and when I come out the next day, it's fully charged and ready to go.
@@JoeyRodz74maybe a vehicle with a 100kw battery at 0% charging from a 13a plug would take 38 hours. But it's all relative. On a 7kw home charger 11 hours would be almost there. I have a 80kw and usually get from 38% to 80% in around 5 hours and it costs around £9
I hate mine . It’s not a car, it’s an amazing bit of tech with a great charging network, but it’s not a car. This is why I have my old Merc’s to drive for fun.
I’ve ridden motorcycles all my life and loved anything with engines and was an EV skeptic. I drove one of these and was blown away and came out with a new outlook on EVs.
Just wait till you have to charge up and there's 3 Tesla's ahead of you. One hour wait
@@darylwizzard5832 Tesla's? Why the apostrophe?
Thats what everyone says in the first 5 minutes when they fall for the hype and jump on the band wagon. Just wait a couple years, the novelty soon wears off, charging time, range, waiting in line charge it, EV's depreciate like a rock, no body wants the old model once the new model comes out, people don't want second hand EV's the risk is too high regarding battery condition and life.
@@fc7424do some actual research. Don’t buy one if you can’t home charge.
I live in Switzerland and compared Ioniq 5 with model 3 performance version price wise. Ioniq turned out to be more expensive. what makes Tesla as a brand superior to its competition is their extensive EV manufacturer and especially super charger network. When you drive electric and want to take a trip you don't wanna worry about where to charge your car and quickly. Thanks for the review
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The lack of dials in a conventional dash is a deal breaker for me. In fact at this price point there should be heads up display. The first Mini had the speedometer in the middle of the dash as a cost save measure as the speedo position didn't need to be changed for either LHD or RHD production. Most other cars the gauges are in front of the steering for a good reason so why in the heck do people think the speedo etc is a good idea in regards to Tesla's location.
I definitely agree with your sentiments towards Tesla owners. Seriously those who behave like children really need to take a good long hard look at themselves.
The final point I would like to make is that here in Australia Consumer Law overrides warranty. A car out of warranty doesn't necessarily mean that the dealer and manufacturer are exonerated from responsibility when it comes to a cars malfunction. I suggest you look into it and perhaps make a video about consumer rights.
I’ve got one very similar to the one featured, now 3 years old. I’m selling it this summer to get the larger Model Y Performance. Probably the best car I’ve had with the possible exception a Landcruiser 200.
Love the model Y but I got Mach E. either way, they’re both amazing! I don’t think I can go back to slow expensive gas cars any more
I just swapped my 10yo BMW for a used 2019 Model 3 SR. I feel like I dodged a maintenance nightmare. The newer BMWs engine seals fall apart with the US ethanol addition to gasoline. So I got out before the engine rebuild. So…quality issues? Fine I’ll take them. And as to ride quality…every bit as good and a bit better. 25 years a BMW owner…and now happy with the switch. Climate controls in the cabin suck battery life up to 30% of the range disappears. I’d try to get one with the octovalve heat pump in retrospect, all Chinese built models have this. Perfect car? No, but 3x a used BMW for sure.
I love my Tesla but I do have a couple of additional gripes that weren’t mentioned. The air conditioning sucks, luckily you can turn it on before you get in, but if you forget on a hot day and your car is in the sun you going to feel like your head is being fried while some one is gently blowing cool air at your chest. The other is the auto sensing wipers. They never seem to be able to figure out the right speed to go, and adjusting them manually in the rain with limited visibility is not ideal
I've had mine for 3 months and so far so good. It has some quirks but overall I'm happy with it.
There are definitely some cosmetic issues with some cars. We bought a M3 in 2019 and had it for over 2 years without any issues. No gaps, no rattling. It was a US build so I was expecting panel gaps, but we couldn’t find any. Tesla has also added a battery health function as part of the latest update. Tesla’s are always getting improvements to keep them fresh.
With regards to the Autopilot. Autopilot is free with all Teslas. Enhanced Autopilot is a $5k upgrade. Full self driving is another $5k in top of the EAP and not available in Australia (in Beta in the US currently)
Also, there's apps that can tell you the battery condition. They require you charge it 5% to get a fairly accurate condition reading though, but if you have the app running, as I do, there's no need to wait for anything, you can just bring it up.
Totally agree. They didn’t spend much time to understand the car they are reviewing I guess.
I bought a 2nd hand late 2019 build (US made) Model 3 Standard Range.
I love it, but in one year I had 4 services under warranty for:
- failed coolant valve
- squeaking control arms on both front suspension (common in early M3s)
- leather on driver's headrest eroded away thanks to hair products
All of those services were easy to arrange and were done fuss free. But it's the most drama I've ever had with a young car and Tesla will need to up their quality game if I'm going to replace this M3 with another Tesla.
saw a video comparing build quality the teslas made in germa & the us - surprise surprise germany came on top
Those issues have been resolved for the Australian market. Doesn't mean the new ones will be perfect, mine had the steering wheel replaced due to some of the internal glue letting go on the fake leather. But I was chatting to the mobile tech and he said the common faults he sees have been trending less and less, they used to have six techs to service Brisbane and SE Qld, now only two because the workload has fallen.
@@jaredscott4829 yeah my M3 is an Aussie one, but you're right, I believe they did fix the control arm issue in later models. Good to hear though that the techs are reporting less issues.
I ordered a new one a month ago and can't wait. What swayed the decision for me was the charger network. I had a first gen leaf in the UK and putting up with waiting for a changer or coming across the one charger and it was broken made it frustrating
Great clip. Not even a car guy but love this channel
Until the other manufacturers make charging as simple as Tesla, there is no real comparable EV company.
Great review. Here in the USA the Model 3 hit 60 miles per hour in 3.1 seconds and on to a top speed of 162 miles per hour. Cost per mile is significantly less than a Toyota Corolla. And they can be found used for $20-30k which means (with $5/gal gas here) they basically pay for themselves in fuel savings for the average person. There are other options, but none this good yet.
You forgot to mention the higher insurance costs
Fyi, you have paid for the fuel upfront.
@@darylwizzard5832which are largely contingent on the owner. You'll make up the difference in insurance costs on fuel savings.
@@darylwizzard5832 Our 2021 used Model 3 we just purchased went from $60 per month for a 2019 Camry to $87 per month for the 3. So only a $37/mo increase and NO more $6 gas here in Socal
The Tesla model 3 looks better than any other EV I’ve seen.
if you learn the controls here it's probably no big problem and secondly you can raise the volume with your voice you can change the temperature with your voice. and it has quick controls. and for short periods you can also use Auto autopilot. Not so dangerous if you look away for 2-3 seconds
As a 22 MYP owner, this was a fair review with a few minor disagreements. I try not to recommend pre '21 M 3 or Y unless the price is too good to pass up. They are early-build cars from a relatively new automaker and are bound to have some issues, if not early on, definitely after the warranty expires. Tesla should add an extended warranty on used cars. Once demand slows down, I think they will... I will keep my 22 MYP for 8 yrs or 120k miles and upgrade at that point. I don't want to deal with out of warranty powertrain issues... PS: Car forums for any car brand are the mecca of disgruntled car enthusiasts. Other cars have a percentage of cars with issues not just Tesla. Tesla's are clearly getting better with age and it's only been 5yrs since the M3 came out.
The Tesla 3 is considered to be very energy efficient compared to some other electric cars and we are talking in practice about long journeys. In a test in Norway, a Tesla consumed less power in the winter than some other electric cars did in the summer. and the trip planner works so well in Tesla. Some other cars may have problems with the so-called handshake when charging outside the home after the trip
The Model 3 is amazing. Have driven mine since 2019 and I love it! I want another second ICE car only for novelty and that interaction with the car. But I think for 90% of people, an EV should be their primary vehicle. Charge at home while you sleep, enjoy a relatively high performing car that can pass most every car on the road.
Great video, thanks guys. Just wondering, with the intense heat we get in Australia, especially here in Perth, cabin temperatures can get ridiculously hot, does this affect the screen? I've had an iPad "melt" on me when left in my Falcon.
Cheers guys
You can control the temp in the car remotely via the app and also set protection mode. When the inside is too hot, it can lower the window slightly to vent the hot air out and/or turn on the air cond. In only a few seconds, the temp drops rapidly to a controllable level. Very smart.
I'm sure someone has already covered this, but autopilot is cruise control with some self drive features. Full self drive is the $10k feature you're talking about.
Great and fair review but I think you got a few things wrong here. The $10k "autopilot" you mention is the full-self driving beta - so far only available in North America. You can "preorder" this in other countries if you want. But all cars come with autopilot (advanced lane keeping cruise control). Also, Tesla does not software lock safety features - all cars come with all safety features enabled (unless you count the enhanced autopilot or full-self driving as safety features).
Oh, and I remember saying when you were around 2k subs that I'll see ya at 100k+ subs. Congrats 🥳
This is correct. The video is somewhat misleading, as Tesla do not-and never have-artificially restricted any safety features on their cars. Every Model 3 includes all safety features available at the time of purchase. Every Model 3 gets all safety-related software updates at no charge. The only software Tesla charges extra money for are convenience features.
@@sjwright2 💯 this! 👍
The car will rust in the wheel arches... they have almost no paint there and alot of holes..
Now I live in Scandinavia where we use salt on the roads in the winter..
But most Model 3 owners dont think they need rustprotection.....
Great piece. I''ve owned a 2019 Model 3 LRDM since new. Have 60k miles on it over just about 5 years. In a nutshell, it's the best car I've ever owned....and I've owned a whole lot of cars in my 69 years. I've spend just about nothing on maintenance, the car has been 100% reliable, and there's little evidence that the car has worn at all. As best I can tell, this thing seems like it will go on forever. I get about 38k miles on a set of tires, which I think is pretty good for a car with essentially the same performance as a BMW M3.
As to the drive, well, it's crazy fast, handles really well, has excellent snow traction. When one considers that this car cost me almost nothing to drive, almost nothing to maintain, is a great long distance cruiser, is really fun, it's hard to imagine why anyone would want an IC equivalent.
As for range, I drive the car 900 miles between the SF bay area and Jackson, WY 4x per year, and it takes the same 15.5 hours as it has in all my previous IC cars. Range is pretty much a non-issue.
One more thing. Dealing with Tesla itself is an infinitely better experience than dealing with a dealer. Heck, I was just given Full Self Driving for a month, and it's quite incredible. Features are added all the time. Early in its life the car actually got a 5% power boost. All of this is for free. My 5 year old car has the same features as a brand new car.
All in all, I'd never go back to IC vehicles of 3rd party dealers. Tesla ownership has pretty much ruined me for that.
The BYD Atto 3 and MG EV SUV thing are tempting alternatives. Ok, Model 3 has access to the better Supercharger network, but is that enough to justify the extra cost?
"Don't be a dick!" sage advice for all people, all over the world, in general.
Great video, so many seem to can the 3. Super objective (except the thing about one eyed owners/fans, which to be fair, is accurate, but exists on both sides).
A couple of points. The LR model 3 has a WLTP range in the 600s, it's never going to reach close to that in the real world, it's only used as a measure. One of the biggest opportunities for EV manufacturers is to agree on a standard real world range measure that is accurate but at least it's closer than the NEDC test (comedically known as the "Not Even Damn Close" standard). 450km is reasonable for the LR, but also, in my experience, academic. I don't do a lot of long trips so don't have the range dictate my life. I plug in at home whenever it's parked in my drive. It takes 10s to plug in and unplug if you have the wall connector installed. The extra time every couple of hours during travelling to charge to get another 200km isn't that inconvenient to me as I like to stop every 200km anyway to grab a coffee or meal.
I tested fast charging on my last trip, not that I needed it to get home. At 23% after a 2 1/2 hour drive I stopped at a 350kW charger, went to the loo and came back. In 6 minutes it had charged from 23% to 40%. That's 50km range added in 6 mins! That's as long as you'd be at the pump, and you'd have to stand there. I then drove home, plugged it in and set the max charge to 60%. Extrapolate that to the "family road trip" and you'd be stopping for a maximum of 25 mins to get an extra 200km, noting that you are better off to try to aim at arrival SoC at 10-15% on a road trip to maximise charging speed. Having travelled with family myself, a stop after 200km isn't unreasonable and stopping for a coffee takes 10 mins anyway. Stopping for a meal is around the 1/2 hour mark. But as you said, this means you need to plan more.
Queues at chargers however, are an issue for those that travel during long weekends etc. Mine is generally only charged to 60% because I don't need to go 400km today. Even if I did, chargers permitting (a big if in SA) I'd probably only charge to 100% before I left because my power is cheaper than it is on the road, not because I needed the range.
One thing that is a big "buyer beware" regarding EVs is that at highway speeds, they are less efficient (unlike ICE cars) because drag squares with speed and there are few losses in stop start/urban motoring. Surprised you didn't mention that.
From a servicing perspective, after 18 months most of the gremlins of a new car/recalls have been fixed either over the air or in my driveway, only once have I been left stranded and it was an aftermarket part that interfered with the CANBUS that was at fault (that was fixed on site) and I can't fault the service I've had here in South Aus.
Lastly, as an owner, I've found just as much questionable behaviour towards me as I've seen handed out so I think we're square on which side of the line dicks hang out on. My Tesla is the first car I've ever owned that someone has spat on. I think the answer is both!
For me, the most notable thing this review achieved was it has made me appreciate my 3-litre diesel BMW X3 more than ever. ❤
I used to have an X1. After the third leaking radiator (ALL conveniently out of warranty), I traded for a Model X. It is the best car I have ever owned
Even if you are in the market for a model 3 just buy a new one because the cheapest used ones are only $5 to $10k off a new standard range and same with the long range models and then you can avoid all of the earlier problems on the older models.
Love my model 3 more than any other car I have driven or owned!! It’s amazing in every way
I like the feel of effortless power and control. After 3 years mine has been in the shop once for squeaky control-arm ball joint replacement at n/c. To be honest, I sometimes miss the roar of a gasoline engine and gear-shifting... but I don't miss the repair bills.
Your car is only 3 years old ... how "massive" would the repair bills be on a decent 3 year old normal car ... what a funny comment.
I was quite anti-ev few years ago.
When i set out to research, test drive and buy an EV a few months back, i specifically didnt want a Tesla. I test drove every single EV between $40-120k in my market. No other car's tech, performance and features were within 5-10 years of Tesla. I couldn't objectively justify purchasing an inferior performing Korean, Chinese or Euro EV with less features and a higher price tag than a Model 3/Y.
I add a used 2022 Model 3 to my fleet a few months ago. It came from the Shanghai factory.
There are zero issues with panels gaps on mine and 20+ others I inspected. It performs and drives amazingly with zero faults. I had one issue streaming videos on Disney+ but that was resolved in a software update within the week.
I have owned 300+ cars. I'm no tesla fanboi. I'm an absolute car slut and have tried everything from JDM to euros to exotic, aussie and american muscle.
I drive the tesla mon-fri for commutes and drive the performance petrol cars during the weekends and roadtrips.
The Tesla model 3 is the best daily I've used day to day. Wife has a Model Y which we ordered new with less than a month wait.
We pay $0 to run them as we have free power between 9pm-12am with our energy provider.
We're projected to save $16,000+ in fuel in 12 months vs our previous diesel and V6/V8 daily drive cars.
Great objective review. Ive driven a 2014 Model S for 125,000 uk miles since new. Engineered in big auto world wide 44 years in most manufactures. Built an tuned motorcycles and cars. Total EV convert, always was a supporter of EVs and GMs attempt with the EV1, love the Citroen DS aero look, clearly Tesla suite me but so does Zero SRF electric motorbikes, love the responsiveness of EVs, Ice with all the crap fuels here in UK dont run right.....not for me.
Paying $55,000 for a USED car? Some people have more money than sense.
Don't like the external and internal looks the lack of buttons doesn't make it better looking... And touch interface while driving, isn't for me. Strange that it is allowed...
. . the Autopilot on mine is the basic standard but many years ahead of the VW or Nissan ones I've owned. It's so intelligent it's driven me hundreds of miles.
Thanks for all the content! Great work
Firstly 2017-2022 are NOT the same! 2917-late 21. 2022 up spec have the option of the LFP Battery and lots more extras that were not found on previous models. A big change if you could purchase the China made LFP Standard model as it’s definitely better built as most owners would state.
Great review , would you rather buy a secondhand tesla 3 say 2019-2020 or a mg 4 , cheers
I really want to like the EVs, but I live in Finland and the temperature changes are bit too extreme for the battery. When it dips to -20 even the range is significantly shorter. Also we salt our roads and they are not in great condition either.
Depends whether your car has aluminum or steel frame if you're concerned about rust from salted roads. Ice vehicles also lose range in winter but obviously you can refuel faster. But the average person's daily commute is less than 100km so I don't think this is the biggest problem.
@@khuo0219 ICE only loses range on startup. When the engine warms up, it uses exactly the same amount of fuel. And that only takes few minutes, not even that if you have engine block heater (like many do here) or store your car in a warm garage.
Gas cars are 15% less efficient in cold weather. Model 3 is around 17%.
www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/coldweather.shtml#:~:text=Cold%20weather%20effects%20can%20vary,to%2045%25%20on%20short%20trips.
@@FriedChairs nah, its about 50%
5:00 you do have to recognise though that most people move quickly with the times and it’s a niche bunch that cling on to the “character” side of things.
Just as the vast majority of the country drives automatic despite the “character” of manual, realistically I’d expect that when EVs become affordable and available from mainstream brands, most people are going to find the instant quiet acceleration of an EV drivetrain far more appealing than the majority of everyday commuter car engines that just make a racket and aren’t that responsive.
Given most people are driving cars that have a market value much lower than most EVs, it will be interesting to see the full interest in it when we get more EVs that filter down into the affordable used price point where a lot of people shop.
We have a Model 3 and a Subaru Outback. Most families will have two cars. The Tesla costs $1.20/100km charging at home. The diesel Outback is $15 bucks! EV for freeway and Outback for around the neighborhood. Buy what you like…
That sounds completely backwards to me. Did you mistype?
A diesel engine needs to build a high temperature to become efficient and clean the DPF. So it's best on the freeway.
The EV around the neighbourhood avoids the range anxiety and the inefficiency of stop start motoring. So its best around the neighbourhood.
i too was a skeptic until i hired one out and being absolutely blown away by it. from the driving to the autopilot to the intuitive operating system i came away thoroughly convinced that i had just stepped into the future. in saying that, i was grateful to step back into my humble and ever reliable camry haha. I was thinking about buying a used one but will wait for the new model 3 thats about to drop. oh btw why is this tesla got different coloured door handles?
Never mind the door handles, what about the dark wheels on the left hand side and the silver on the right 😅. My guess is the owner was halfway through changing the 2019’s chrome trim to the dark trim found in the later model which is generally thought of as looking better.
All of these potential issues are on the early model 3 cars built in the US. Those out of China are built using a newer process and have very few issues.
I'm not surprised at the reaction you got from some individuals in owners' groups. Tesla fans and car enthusiasts are not the same (though there is some overlap). Car enthusiasts are generally a very friendly bunch; many Tesla fans (as others have mentioned) believe that the car is their personality.
I don't think it's that. I think Tesla fans are very defensive (and rightly so) because there is so much nonsense and misinformation on car enthusiast sites about Teslas and EVs in general.
@@longstops1430 there is plenty of misinformation about Teslas coming from Tesla fans too. That's why videos like this one are important: they focus on the facts rather than the emotions.
@@skilgour44 I don't think there is much if any significant misinformation from Tesla owners. The anti-EV crowd is bursting at the seams repeating fossil fuel industry talking points on just about every EV article anywhere on social media. Tesla owners are very defensive, but I'd say that's completely understandable, if unnecessary.
Bought a used M3LR and won’t easily drive ICE sedans as a daily again. Overnight charging at home is less than $4/ month. It is a performance car with handling comparable to such stalwarts as Porsche Cayman. Maybe not as engaging but on a canyon road the M3 is still a heck of a lot of fun to drive. Also when you say “autopilot” - which is standard - I think you meant “FSD full self driving” which costs a lot, although FSD can also be rented monthly.
I bought an Audi just a few days before delivery and very happy
Wouldnt be caught dead in Tesla regardless of how good it is.
I've been waiting for you mates to review this - Finally. A job well done on this entertaining review :) Hope to watch a review on a used Model Y or an Audi E-tron since I am considering one when prices drop under $80K CAD. My only grip is the loss amount of range when at -20C down to -40C I reside in which is why I will not spend my hard earned money on a new one ;)
@@lexusis300h6 I agree with you. But the eventuality are past 2030... Only EVs will be on sale :(
A Norwegian car tester drove a Tesla where it was -27 C if I remember. He speaks in English. You can find it on TH-cam he only tests electric cars
Tesla preheats the battery. if you enter the charged location in the car's travel guide, the car will preheat the battery before you arrive at the charged location. The fact that there are some charging stations that do not seem to be able to withstand severe cold is not Tesla's fault
@@Andersljungberg i remember reading that
@@Andersljungberg unfortunately Teslas don’t do well under fridgid temps :( it’s not the Supercharger. I’ve met few that rid theirs because when temps are -30C to below -40C - these are norm temperatures during winter where I reside and the cold temps are already more than 7 months annually.I’ve seen numerous stop on the side of the highway,door handles that don’t respond or open manually (luckily I had a heat gun to help out an owner), high decrease from 80+% down to 20% parked out in an office parking lot in an 8hr window (from keeping the battery warm and/or interior from frigid temps).Teslas aren’t designed for such a climate. Battery tech is still at it’s infancy. Plus that driven tester most likely is still new and not past it’s warranty.Granted Tesla pushed for electrifying vehicles- great. But I would not get in one because your practically paying so much for it’s battery tech in an ikea furniture with wheels.Their stocks are in shambles, they don’t sell for the average Joe, they don’t share or open source their tech so you have no choice but to go through their service facility that charges a lot.Tesla probably needs more than a decade to get straighten things out.If elon truly wanted electrifying for the masses, prices best be under $30k. Because with interest, it just isn’t worth it :(. Luckily the U.S.A. strongly advocate and provide rebates for EVs - where I live, ZERO discounts/rebate.Plenty of individuals could state numerous reasons not to drive EVs presently and long-term. It’s sad ICE are going away because nothing beats it’s range capability and longevity - for as long as maintained properly.Battery replacement on a Tesla, right outrageous - you could literally buy 2-4 used vehicles that are much more fun to drive than a bland boring Tesla.A honda civic/CRV, 90s corolla/rav4 easily outlast any Tesla hands down - and thats proof ICE vehicles (including hybrid vehicles like a Prius are more reliable and stand the test of time. Elon M. & Gov’ts are only pushing for EVs to push us all to keep spending and using climate change as a reason.Even when you tube scratches out my replies… EVs at this time are for the unfortunate dummy 101s
Love the out takes! 😊
The parking assistant is not included in the basic Autopilot from what I have heard. Or how is it
in Queensland there so alot of FREE AC chargers in shopping centers that are 32amp which means you charge at 12kw AC which means you would be able to charge from 0 to 100% in under 6 hours.
Regarding the insane acceleration of Teslas/EVs - it’s a nice gimmick, but for how long can you actually drive fast? I’m going 220 km/h on the Autobahn for prolongued periods with my Diesel without having to stop all the time. That’s whats much more importabt for me.
How is that glass roof on a 40+ degree day?
You def want to turn the a/c on via the app before you get into the car … only way I can handle getting in.
Had my new M3.5 for a couple of weeks. It was low 40’s when I picked it up in Perth and honestly I was very surprised, the glass roof is totally fine. I’d bought a shade for it expecting to hate the glass but it really doesn’t need it, and I haven’t fitted it, and as you can precool the car or leave the aircon working when you get out it’s not an issue for me. Trying my best to not join the cult but this is a very good machine indeed.
I am a car guy and wonder if I’ll miss the drama and noise, wringing the neck of a beautiful ice engined machine, but so far not at all. I love just how well the whole package works but do wonder if any car needs to be this fast. I’ll let you know.
@@colinthompson7422 It was about 100 years ago they feared going faster than a good man could run may cause asphyxiation. Once we had that one covered, no car is fast enough.
I purchased a 2015 model S, just because they have an instrument panel and much more rare on the road. I see heaps of model 3's and model Y's but hardly any model S by comparison.
Different places have different pricing, I am planning to get a 2022 Model 3 Performance with 10-15k km milage for about 34000-36000 USD here in China. For that money it is a hell of a car even though there are so many Chinese EVs appear daily... most of those are still inferior.
My son has one of these and it’s great. He also has solar panels on his house, so it costs next to nothing to charge up and run.
Congratulations to him for coming out 🎉
With regard to the 12v battery the car actually gave me a warning that the battery needed replacing and what is more it happened in my 4th year of ownership and the Tesla technician visited and replaced it at my home free under warranty. I have never heard of that being covered under warranty with any other manufacturer.
Voice controller.. and once it's set up.. everything matches your profile.. I have a model 3 rwd , four years now.. it's still like new.. never one problem.. ( fantastic car.. can't see myself trading in..new one is better But first piano was on a test drive was it's slower.. ( still stupid quick but my original silver frame model 3 is unreal fast ) but it's actually just a relaxing car around town to drive slow in
One thing I didnt hear ya mention, might have missed it, is the charging network. Very important if you driving long distances. Here in USA Non-tesla networks suck compared to the Tesla plug and play. Other mfrs have some great cars but the third party charging network lets them down big time. Great vid by the way.
Here in Australia I think it is the opposite. One of the motoring organisations are installing a large network of chargers and is probably the go to for EV charging.
@@tomnewham1269 No not really - here in Australia the Supercharger network is fabulous and growing. Tesla wins because it can use that AND all the other networks. (Sadly many of the others suffer appalling reliability, and are very often with just a single charger which is far too often broken. )
@@FutureSystem738 New Zealand here, Tesla were in fast with their charging network and I admit, they are in great locations, but other chargers are popping up all over the place, outside supermarkets, Kmart, Library's and museums and public car parks. I would say Tesla chargers are outnumbered 5-1 here.
@@onecookieboy The most common “other” fast DC chargers are the relatively slow “50kW” Tritium chargers. You’re often lucky to see 40kW out of these. They’ve been rolled out by for example the Queensland government for their “electric superhighway”, and the NRMA in NSW. Their reliability is absolutely woeful, and are very often just a lone charger- so tough if it’s occupied or broken.
Sadly, many EV owners replace the TR in Tritium with SH when talking about these chargers.
I’d hate to have to rely on them alone on a long distance drive. Luckily at least for us in Qld, there is also usually an AC type 2 available in the same places- obviously much slower but at least it’s an option to get you going again if you have the cable.
If I were driving anywhere that there are Superchargers I wouldn’t even try the Tritium chargers- even though there’s a price premium for the Tesla chargers. They’re FAST and they work, pretty much every single time!
@@FutureSystem738 Yeah, I don't know how powerful the generic chargers are, but I do know that a few days ago I walked past where the Tesla chargers are in my home small city (by NZ standards) and there were 5 M3's charging and another 4 in the same area obviously waiting (it's a car park and was otherwise empty) to use the chargers, so even if they are fast, clearly there are times when you still have to wait so perhaps not much faster overall than the 'normal' chargers.
I only play vinyl when I want to listen to an album from the box of records I kept from the 70s. Otherwise, forget it!
Electric cars: a plan that doesn't work, for a problem that doesn't exist.
Well in your view has planet Earth got an infinite amount of resources to produce fuel for ICE cars. We need an alternative.
@@larropowell3658 actually yes, but given that you're an EV fanboy, it would be too much "conspiracy theory" for you. No wonder why people say EV-ism is like a cult. 🙄
Yes we must continue digging up rainforest and seabeds ,every day 365 days a year
Wow, thanks for the honest review. There are plenty of problems/faults mentioned here that I was not aware, although even from Day one I have wondered how a crash repair shop would handle one of these which had been involved in a serious crash. I'm not in the market for any EV but your comments would be enough for me to stay well clear of Tesla. I would not be inclined to buy any car that does not have a proper physical service or back-up representation.
You just use the app and they attend you at home.
Tesla has mobile service, so they come to your home or where you are with your car. what I have understood. they can even come and change some tires when you've got a flat tire
I don't know how it is in Australia but here in Sweden there are people who don't want to buy a car that has been in a crash
@@Andersljungberg Certainly if the car was involved in a serious crash, then people would not want to buy it but if the damage has been fixed and the job has been done in a professional manner, the purchaser may not even know. Caveat Emptor!
Its getting much better, insurance costs have largely come to parity with equivalently priced competitors which suggests the repair cost risk borne by the insurer isn't any worse than a normal vehicle. Obviously depends on location. They do have service locations and mobile technicians. You are encouraged to have it serviced and inspected, its just not a typical warranty requirement.
Loved the music analogy, which I am stealing!
My daughter bought a late 2022 standard range model. She took the wheel covers off and painted the wheels, and did some upgrades to the stereo. It's a really nice car and she's never had any issues. She's got solar at the house, plus a Tesla Battery wall, so she charges her car overnight, and goes to work about 8Ks away, and comes back with the battery almost full. She lives in Perth and has done some road trips and uses the charging breaks to get something to eat and stretch her legs. She really doesn't like most other Tesla owners, since her other vehicle is Ford Ranger. She thinks a lot of them are wankers...lol
The only EV I'm interested in is the Alpha Motors Wolf pickup, or Super Saga.... Beautiful designs!
I was looking for an EV for some time before buying and what turned me away from the Tesla model 3 was the screen. In the UK you can't even touch your mobile phone while in charge of a vehicle and that's not limited to driving. So to think it's okay to fiddle around with a huge screen while driving or sitting at traffic lights seriously can't be safe. I went for the Kia e-Nero 4 and after over 2 years of ownership it has been almost faultless, the car is great but the technology needs improvement especially the collision avoidance system. But here in the UK there are just not enough charge points that are actually working and that makes driving too far from home a real gamble because you just don't know when you'll be back.
One of my vehicles has a touchscreen infotainment system placed in the middle of the dashboard. I don't touch the thing unless I'm stationary. They really are a deadly distraction.
Well if your worried about driving to far from home and non working charging stations you really bought the wrong EV.
Should've gone for the one with the Screen you didn't like but by far the best, most fuss free, and reliable charging network.
If I was doing regular long trips or public charging, Tesla all the way, no brainer, if your just driving local and charging at home everyday then by whatever you like.
@@sr20trx Hindsight is a gift that comes too late. Until you step into the world of EV ownership you won't realise how crappy it is. Of course if I knew then what I know now I would have not bothered.
@@Crazy_Dave I don't want to be rude but the Tesla charging network advantages are well documented.
When I bought my Model 3 LR 18 months ago the whole premise of buying an EV was 'No Faffing about' so good range and easy charging were a must.
I would not go back than ICE daily driver, I never public charge and have solar at home so it's essentially free to run.
I also have classic cars and have other ICE vehicles for my transport business but for A daily EV all the way.
If I could not charge at home I would not have an EV, as that interferes with my No Faff rule.
@@sr20trx Tesla does not and did not appeal to me, the performance of the plaid sure that would be great but there's more things to consider like dealership network, Kia are in the same town as me. Build quality, Kia was far better at the time of searching. The fact that I could sit in the car before making a decision. Tesla wanted me to pay for the car before I could even see it and if I rejected it, it would cost me £100 for the privileged, no thank you Tesla. Also there are no Tesla charge points near me.
The description of "some" of the typical owners of a tesla is a big turn off. I wonder what causes the people who own a tesla to be so rude...Does it attract such people or is it the stress of owning such a car ( such as controlling everything through that display ) that causes the people to become and change into rude jerks...? Both could be a reason for concern.
I think I'd go with one of the Koreans over a Tesla... That being said... you can have a 7-10+ year old car with a (traditional) engine without many worries, I am still relatively sceptical about batteries. Having to replace a mobile phone every 3 or so years is a good enough proof how quickly batteries degrade. The mentioning of potential Rust issues is also a big red flag for anyone from Northern parts of Europe, unless they get some extra coating or protection for that region.
I have a genisis GV60, but did consider a model Y. there were a few things which pushed me towards Genisis. the main one was the Tesla variants are just too minimalist. then there was the issues of no heads up display, too few buttons for functionality, the sunroof had no way to close off (it gets very hot here is OZ). The GV60 was a lot more expensive so its not for everyone. Otherwise I do like the look of the Tesla and would still recommend Teslas.
The worst part about them is the owners...... Make it their whole personality thinking they're better then anyone else and defending it to the moon, they can't accept any of their flaws
Haha so true they have some terrible build quality and aren’t functional when towing or on long trips around Australia charging off a diesel generator 😂
We can’t help that you’re paying $100 in fuel, are slow as f$&* and feel inferior by just seeing an electric car…
@@AKA001 proving my point.....
It's actually $160 btw
@@AKA001 haha your not helping the case against you that’s for sure proving ops comment about electric car owners.
@@LifeOfTuners keep pouring your hard earned into your gas guzzler that deteriorates whether you use it or not… you guys define stupidity.
Great Video.
I’d still like to own one some day
Potentially $30 to top.up. Absolutely bloody crazy considering it doesn't pollute
That depends on how they generate the electricity for you to use in your EV.
If you charge overnight, coal. If you charge during the day in summer, on average half would be renewables. Even winter should still have a quarter of it being renewables.
Better still, if you have your own solar panels, you know where that’s from. It’s like being able to mine and refine your own oil.
And $30 is probably the most you’d pay because Tesla charges about 50cents per kWh, which is about 60% higher than the most expensive peak home tariff that I’m aware of.
In Australia, electricity is generally around 15-20 cents per kWh during off-peak. Even if you only ever charge with coal electricity, it's still significantly less polluting than the most efficient of ICE and hybrids. Set aside climate change, coal powered EVs are also much better for the air we breathe in our neighbourhood.
@@alanngli At 50c/kWh and assuming 4 miles per kW, that's 12.5c/mile. I get that from my Mazda 2 diesel, but it only costs $20,000 and has a range of 600 miles at 70 mph. If the Tesla was charged from home all the time it would be cheaper, but it would take me more than 100 years to recover $30-80,000 of capital costs.
Best option if don’t have money for a new car then buy a used Tesla3. I did it and it was the best option. Bought mine 3 years ago and now the price is only 5k under what I payed for it and it’s 3 years. Best car I have had ever. Don’t know about the price for the future but it’s a beast. Gonna have mine for at least a year more than getting a Pokestar 4. We will see. Tesla still the best for good price.
3.25 years with our 2019 US built M3P. We took delivery in the first month in Australia (Sept ‘19). Build quality has been outstanding, paint is near perfect, reliability outstanding (100%), and everything else is outstanding. Don’t forget the Tesla Supercharger network.
We have spent nothing, not a cent, on actual “maintenance”. This is by far the best car we have ever owned.
Unfortunately your review is totally wrong with respect to safety features. All “safety features” are on ALL Teslas, even the cheapest.
New and sometimes improved functionality has been added with On air updates. you can adjust how the steering should be Plus some other stuff. For eg sportiness or comfort. although it doesn't have air suspension like the Tesla S. You can't raise it and lower it like the Tesla S. Oh, it's probably not as quiet as the Tesla S either. And Tesla's wife has probably never had a sunroof, but the Tesla S has
20:04 he is talking about the long range models going from 0 to 100% which you not suppose to do with nickel based batteries with the LFP RWD model 3 batterries though you can charge those to 100% every day if you want, and 0 to 100% from my experience is about 20 hours total thats on a mobile connector charger on a 10amp wall plug≥
All good for inner city driving....too expensive for the average Joe ...but next to useless for anything fun in Australia.
I have a model 3 and I love it, but that was literally my first thought when I heard his accent. Other than city driving, I have to think Australia is one of the worst places to have a Tesla. Maybe out of town opening it up?
I wanted to hear your perspective on the environment because of all the hate that battery cars are actually worse than internal combustion cars for being "environmentally friendly".
Monroe Associates who tear down cars and report on them were initially critical of Teslas with the exception of the drive train and software. There has been much improvement and the gigacasting dealt with panel gap issues as well as strengthening them.
I have a 2022 Model Y and it was rated by Europe's NACAP as the safest care they had tested in history so I'm happy to have my family in it. It's also faultless on build. I had an ID.4 prior to it and it was a dog without reliable software.
I don't take my eyes off the road to control the stuff you referred to as I give verbal instructions to the car. No matter what the design any switches for music etc on any car are distracting.
Your knees touching the front seat could be avoided if it was not fully retracted.
Australia is the third biggest customer of Tesla but when Teslas came out l saw a lot of them in the more afluent parts of Sydney
Great Job Adam !!!
In Canada during winter the door handles freeze shut. Not well designed for cold
A dashboard with nothing on it. Could have some fun with that, instrument wise. Interesting video.
Love the Honest criticism to some of the owners
You sit really low in these cars, far too low for old me. I need something a bit easier to access. Plus, there is no under thigh support in what looked like an uncomfortable rear seat. I spent an hour in the back of a Mercedes C Class (I think) and I was never more uncomfortable in the back of any car. Leather seats (I hate them) and no thigh support or place to put my feet under the front seats. A Peruvian mummy must have been more comfortable. As for knobs, these cost money to integrate into a control unit, it’s easier to incorporate everything into a screen; which I also hate.
performance model 3 with less than 20k on the odo is available for 60k to 65k today. Look at the depreciation difference since a year the video was made. Thanks to new model 3 launch.
The original rims that you thought were ugly should actually provide longer range. because they should Be more wind efficient
Considering the price build quality/value/interior quality is poor. Also lacks basic safety features like rear cross traffic alert, blind spot monitoring and comforts heated/cooled ventilated seats.
Like most BMW owners, my BMW has had so many quality issues, both minor and major, yet people love them and there is no real anti BMW sentiment. Teslas have far less issues yet those who have never experienced or owned a Telsa think they know it all and bag them out of ignorance.
13:13 Yup. There's the demographic.
The type you don't want to get seated next to at dinner party.
Agreed. I drive a Model 3 myself, and there are some Tesla owners out there that I would not even want to be in the same room with. Definitely some complete tools out there.
To be fair, the percentage of a-holes you get owning a Muskie is likely little different to that of any other expensive status brand, but just a smidge more cultish.
@@maxpower7774 Tesla is a status brand?
@@CathodeRayNipplez it's a snob's brand.
Still not convinced, I can go on a trip and not have to worry about refuelling until from 850km to 920hm, a is meant to drive not sit a charging station. Although I have worked on electric propulsion systems since the mid 1970's they all had similar set up with huge diesel engines as the power plant. And batteries are yet to catch that efficiency of power to the wheels over very long periods. ICE engines for me on road transport.
Do you drive 850km in a single stretch without stopping, even to get food or for toilet breaks?
Got a used 2019 M3 SR+ a few months ago off Teslas website. Still has warranty remaining. Great car so far. Saved $10k by getting a used one. And believe it or not I’m not a dick. 😜