PerfectLegends’s 13-0 reminds me of when ben askren got knocked out in 5s both are solid competitors but their accomplishments are downplayed by horrible losses
@@LVRN-qj7kr Ronda Rosey is great in jiu-jitsu, not great at taking a punch. Once people figured her out, her career was fin. I think that's a horrible comparison.
@@tso8174 she fought one of the greatest women fighters of all time and lost. She was the champion and had a great career but people like you only focus on her loses
I'm disappointed PL didn't own up to the fact that he handled the initial 10 - 0 in the worst way imaginable. It should have never even gone to 13 in the first place. This never died because of his behavior during the set, not because it was a sweep. The least you could do is own up to it.
I get that he did it to himself but I also have the empathy to understand how fucked it is to have people constantly hound you with your greatest moment of defeat. Shit must get psychologically taxing, I wish people would chill.
This video is exactly why people will never let this go. PL just makes constant excuses and tries to discredit newer players whenever the topic comes up which is often. Theres no denying he's a good player with a lot of achievements but his ego stops him from owning up to the shit he talked and then lost
He asked for it though. He talked that shit and he got hit, that's how it goes! The reason he still gets grief for it is that he never owns up to it. He finds new and fancy angles to avoid blame. He made claims he couldn't back up MULTIPLE times.
Even if he did talk shit or had it coming ppl need to let it go . Even sonic it honestly reflects poorly on everyone . Take your victory shake hands and move on . If you lose dust yourself off and try to come back stronger.
I mean, he's shit talked a lot of people about their previous mistakes, lorded it over them and tried putting himself on a pedestal... so is that how it should be? The people roasting him should shut up about him getting bodied (free), but, he's allowed to keep running his mouth about the same kind of shit? Better idea. Hold that L to your chest, man up and stop bitching. Just do better for yourself.
I agree that people should let this go. However, it should never be forgotten. It's a pretty good example about what happens when you don't take a loss gracefully and be a sore loser.
Them excuses....he claims he does not care about losing but he was quick to claim he lost because it was Kitana....just be humble and not try to make up stuff just as you did during the 13-0. I just do not see the geniuneness in this.
@@vergosama921 at the time he lost he was highly critical of how SonicFox played. He repeatedly criticized his playstyle. So maybe now he has more nuance and admits it but at this time he was like "well he's good but he lacks fundamentals!" or something like that
Perfect Legend is a great player but like... you made a claim, doubled down on it, and got wrecked. Then after getting wrecked, you just deflected blame. If he had come out and been like "Sonic Fox put on an absolute show taking me down. Ggs, much respect" it would have been chill. Even here he's saying "Kitana vs Kung Lao has always been tough" but on Twitter he specified he could beat Sonic Fox with a specific variation of Kung Lao after criticizing his playstyle. If he had just owned up and showed respect people would care a lot less Edit: he did say it was on him for not being prepared so I mean that's something. But it still feels like overall he's reluctant to give credit
It’s was online tho. It’s a completely different thing when it’s offline, and shit taking is involved. I beat DJT in a KL set, doesn’t mean anything lol.
yes usually no lives that havent even won locals the only pro player I have seen that really uses it is sonicfox which I give it to them and only to them because they are the one who DID the 13-0
See I do feel bad for PL cause it’s horrible how people harass him and it’s undeserved. I will say this tho. Katana vs Lao is not that bad of a matchup if you adjust your play style. PL chooses to jump all over the screen and do unsafe teleports. Foxy plays a more calm controlled Lao and so does scar and they’ve taken games off sonic. Don’t blame the character blame your play. He made Kung Lao look like a trash character
I don't care if it mattered or not, it was funny as hell to watch and I know he still would've been talking shit if he didn't play those last three matches.
It's sad that he got revoked from the MK reveal event and gets harrassed. You can tell he loves fighting games and his own community (FGC) won't even respect him regardless of all his achievements. That's a tough one. Props to him for continuing his journey and doing what he loves. All the haters can sit and spin on this 🖕🏾
I really can’t believe that this topic has been relevant for so long. Either way PL has been a model on how to handle yourself, you fall down, you get up.
He talked a ton of shit for over a year. Then sonicfox 13-0 him. Now he just makes a bunch of excuses. He doesnt have the balls to take ownership for his mouth. Which Sonicfox shut. It was a site to see.
I always feel like he always makes excuses and blames everything and everyone else but himself. He will never grow and get better if he doesn't realize this
He hasn't beaten sonic in tournaments since the 13-0. And you sound like PL with the excuses of losing the FT10 then lost another 3 with Erron Black. Just GGs shake hands and learn.
You knew you weren't prepared for it, why didn't you accept your 10 lost and went further for ft5? That actually worsened the whole shit Carl. You caused your own shit!
this is a really dope idea, and nah it doesn't matter - pick any strong regional player from any fighting game and send them to EVO, and watch them play casuals vs their own favorite player and this can happen.
Me and PL were cool and I was a huge fan, but before all this happened he switched up on me for nothing lol probably karma 🤷🏾♂️ at the end of the day nobody deserves that level of disrespect he still a person.
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Its sad really...i always supported PL. Hell I'll speak about him to other pro players in their streams and they'll either laugh and say he's irrelevant or that they just don't fw bro. Like....its actually crazy man. No one should ever deserve to be treated this way for w.e reason. Glad he came out and spoke about this subject though. Much love to the homie 🔥🔥💯💯
PL come on man.. Sonicfox is miles away better than everyone in that gaming community so why you try to take credit from him saying fundamentals and shit.. You don't evaluate Sonicfox you learn and ask for advice when you speak about a player who is miles away Better than you that was the point
I'm sorry KingJae, but you didn't do a very good job with this interview when it came to the premise of this video, because you let him gloss over the details of how him and sonicfox ended up having that FT10 match. "Does losing 13-0 really matter?" For perfect legend, yes it does. He was talking mad shit about how sonicfox plays online and said he would beat his kitana in a ft10. Sonicfox beat him 10-0 with erronblack. And beat him badly. Instead of accepting defeat graciously after sonicfox's deserved pop off, he goes to say "what I said was that I could beat your kitana" and then proceeds to get 3-0'd quickly. It matters losing 13-0 in a 10-0 after you were the one who started talking mad shit to someone. He doesn't deserve the irl shit happening, but this solidified that he won't admit that he created that infamous evening by running his mouth and refusing to stop. This is why he's the Pefect 13gend.
All this silly goose has to say is “ I have to swallow my pride and admit sonic fox is an amazing player, he won fair and square and I apologize for saying what I said about u bro” or something like that, nice and simple. Then people would give perfect legend his roses he f’n wants soo bad and will recognize his own personal achievements….JUST LET GO OF UR EGO BRO
Perfect Legend is one of my favorite players! Big ups bro. It's crazy how people will rock with you for the moment then when you lose they claim you are trash. Smh!!
Losing 13-0 only matters in a FT10
Yep. If it was FT13 it would just be a great player dominating.
PerfectLegends’s 13-0 reminds me of when ben askren got knocked out in 5s both are solid competitors but their accomplishments are downplayed by horrible losses
Great comparison. I'd also bring up Rhonda Rousey.
I think it makes people feel better about themselves to see others lose so badly.
@@LVRN-qj7kr Ronda Rosey is great in jiu-jitsu, not great at taking a punch. Once people figured her out, her career was fin. I think that's a horrible comparison.
@@tso8174 you have no idea what your talking about lol she was a judo black belt 🤣
@@tso8174 she fought one of the greatest women fighters of all time and lost. She was the champion and had a great career but people like you only focus on her loses
@@Belive7heHype yeah. Everyone is a judo black belt, until they get punched in the mouth. 🤣🤣😂😂
I'm disappointed PL didn't own up to the fact that he handled the initial 10 - 0 in the worst way imaginable. It should have never even gone to 13 in the first place. This never died because of his behavior during the set, not because it was a sweep. The least you could do is own up to it.
EXACTLY! it's like he was trying to find all the excuses as to WHY he got waxed like that. Just own it & move on.
yeah I would do 3 games better in a ft10 with sonicfox, and so would you, and I've never played that MK.
Bruh losing 13-0 in a 10-0 exhibition set is like scoring -30 on a test.
Oh buddy did you do that Mathematical Analogy all by yourself? Good job!
@@jordansebert11You’re a creep
@@jordansebert11 Goofy comeback
I just listened to 6 minutes of excuses from PL I'm good haha
Props to Perfect Legend for telling his tournament days. Hope everything goes good for him on his future endeavors.
"The 13gend will never die"
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Bro Iam weak 😅
I get that he did it to himself but I also have the empathy to understand how fucked it is to have people constantly hound you with your greatest moment of defeat. Shit must get psychologically taxing, I wish people would chill.
I agree but this is the internet bro, ppl will never chill out concerning this
Yeah the sad reality is that the 13-0 loss will forever haunt him
He brought it on himself that’s why it’s harder to feel sympathy
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This video is exactly why people will never let this go. PL just makes constant excuses and tries to discredit newer players whenever the topic comes up which is often. Theres no denying he's a good player with a lot of achievements but his ego stops him from owning up to the shit he talked and then lost
I agree with this 100%!
That's true tbh
He asked for it though. He talked that shit and he got hit, that's how it goes! The reason he still gets grief for it is that he never owns up to it. He finds new and fancy angles to avoid blame. He made claims he couldn't back up MULTIPLE times.
Fun listen. SUPER surprised any group of ppl even still bring this up after like 5 something years.
He talked mad shit and Sonicfox ended him.
That's how i see it.
So my opinion? YES! It does matter because he called sonicfox out & he got dog walked.
@@Senpai__Challa not like he's beaten Sf since or anything. 🤣🤣😂😂
Even if he did talk shit or had it coming ppl need to let it go . Even sonic it honestly reflects poorly on everyone . Take your victory shake hands and move on . If you lose dust yourself off and try to come back stronger.
I mean, he's shit talked a lot of people about their previous mistakes, lorded it over them and tried putting himself on a pedestal... so is that how it should be? The people roasting him should shut up about him getting bodied (free), but, he's allowed to keep running his mouth about the same kind of shit?
Better idea. Hold that L to your chest, man up and stop bitching. Just do better for yourself.
I agree that people should let this go. However, it should never be forgotten. It's a pretty good example about what happens when you don't take a loss gracefully and be a sore loser.
@@SparkShadow212 wise words
Them excuses....he claims he does not care about losing but he was quick to claim he lost because it was Kitana....just be humble and not try to make up stuff just as you did during the 13-0. I just do not see the geniuneness in this.
Thought he said he lost to the best player in the world .
@@vergosama921 at the time he lost he was highly critical of how SonicFox played. He repeatedly criticized his playstyle. So maybe now he has more nuance and admits it but at this time he was like "well he's good but he lacks fundamentals!" or something like that
he lost 3-0 to erron black so kitana is not the problem
Expect ppl to have moved on from this. Huwever, can't imgine Knee, Arslan Ash, JDCR , LilMajin, or any top Tk player losing this many match row.
almost have in ft10, 6 games 7 game streaks really not that hard
Perfect Legend is a great player but like... you made a claim, doubled down on it, and got wrecked. Then after getting wrecked, you just deflected blame. If he had come out and been like "Sonic Fox put on an absolute show taking me down. Ggs, much respect" it would have been chill. Even here he's saying "Kitana vs Kung Lao has always been tough" but on Twitter he specified he could beat Sonic Fox with a specific variation of Kung Lao after criticizing his playstyle. If he had just owned up and showed respect people would care a lot less
Edit: he did say it was on him for not being prepared so I mean that's something. But it still feels like overall he's reluctant to give credit
Couldn't have said it better 👍
Yeah, based on the gameplay, it seemed like he didn't practice enough
Ngl this video makes PL look bad imo but maybe I'm reading it wrong
Yes it does matter, especially when your criticizing someones playstyle
It only matters when you're talking a whoooooole lot beforehand.
Its messed up how they treat PL man. One of the greatest players in FG history, done like this on the results of one exhibition.
man still brings up excuses after excuses.. he doesnt accept that he was not playing good at that set.. this guy's still on that match.. get over it
King jae that’s cuz the Tekken community is not as toxic as the nrs community
SF got 35-1 by SMUG and Perfect Legend rematched SF on MKX and dominated SF also, but nobody talks about that. They only want to talk about one event.
Yes, I heard about that. Can you plz link me the video of when he beat SF after the infamous 13-0?
@@sebastianfeuerstein9306 I would but PL TH-cam got hacked a while back. If I find it I'll show you.
@@F1rsttimer alright man, I hope you do 😭
It’s was online tho. It’s a completely different thing when it’s offline, and shit taking is involved. I beat DJT in a KL set, doesn’t mean anything lol.
@@kingfargo9578 bro, losing 35-1 is still a bit strange even online
People still talk about this?
yes
usually no lives that havent even won locals
the only pro player I have seen that really uses it is sonicfox which I give it to them and only to them because they are the one who DID the 13-0
@@kahoo_slayer why is bro angry
See I do feel bad for PL cause it’s horrible how people harass him and it’s undeserved. I will say this tho. Katana vs Lao is not that bad of a matchup if you adjust your play style. PL chooses to jump all over the screen and do unsafe teleports. Foxy plays a more calm controlled Lao and so does scar and they’ve taken games off sonic. Don’t blame the character blame your play. He made Kung Lao look like a trash character
I don't care if it mattered or not, it was funny as hell to watch and I know he still would've been talking shit if he didn't play those last three matches.
It's sad that he got revoked from the MK reveal event and gets harrassed. You can tell he loves fighting games and his own community (FGC) won't even respect him regardless of all his achievements. That's a tough one. Props to him for continuing his journey and doing what he loves. All the haters can sit and spin on this 🖕🏾
I really can’t believe that this topic has been relevant for so long. Either way PL has been a model on how to handle yourself, you fall down, you get up.
He talked a ton of shit for over a year. Then sonicfox 13-0 him. Now he just makes a bunch of excuses.
He doesnt have the balls to take ownership for his mouth. Which Sonicfox shut. It was a site to see.
PL never redeemed himself since then.
Nah u mean fall down, then double down and lose 3 more games?
Love these talks
He should have just said sonic had my number and I had an ego but look at all these excuses good god
Perfect Legend is the Kwame Brown of fighting games.
yeah it does
Respect to both you legends
I always feel like he always makes excuses and blames everything and everyone else but himself. He will never grow and get better if he doesn't realize this
Apparently you don't understand why he lost. You should probably learn the facts before you open your mouth.
@@tso8174 He lost because Sonic was the better player
@@Jmaurice82 no, he lost because Kitana was overtuned at that time. He's beaten sonic in tournament matches since then. So.. really doesn't matter?
He hasn't beaten sonic in tournaments since the 13-0. And you sound like PL with the excuses of losing the FT10 then lost another 3 with Erron Black. Just GGs shake hands and learn.
@@Jmaurice82 he beat sonic in 2020. But k.
You knew you weren't prepared for it, why didn't you accept your 10 lost and went further for ft5?
That actually worsened the whole shit Carl.
You caused your own shit!
It dont...i got bodied 30-6 in 3rd Strike so 13-0 dont mean shit
why is KJ not at 100k?
6:20 omg not 0-20
this is a really dope idea, and nah it doesn't matter - pick any strong regional player from any fighting game and send them to EVO, and watch them play casuals vs their own favorite player and this can happen.
Me and PL were cool and I was a huge fan, but before all this happened he switched up on me for nothing lol probably karma 🤷🏾♂️ at the end of the day nobody deserves that level of disrespect he still a person.
You knew him personally?
Lord PL
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@@KingJaeTV ok, put do you wish these modes were in Tekken 7?
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Its sad really...i always supported PL. Hell I'll speak about him to other pro players in their streams and they'll either laugh and say he's irrelevant or that they just don't fw bro. Like....its actually crazy man. No one should ever deserve to be treated this way for w.e reason. Glad he came out and spoke about this subject though. Much love to the homie 🔥🔥💯💯
I agree
It's really sad that they lost so many tournaments against him, obviously jealous, and shit talk him now. 🤣🤣😂😂
PL come on man.. Sonicfox is miles away better than everyone in that gaming community so why you try to take credit from him saying fundamentals and shit.. You don't evaluate Sonicfox you learn and ask for advice when you speak about a player who is miles away Better than you that was the point
5-0 I would have slapped sonic and got kicked out the event 😂 I’m not going out like that
the likes and dislikes are 13-0
I'm sorry KingJae, but you didn't do a very good job with this interview when it came to the premise of this video, because you let him gloss over the details of how him and sonicfox ended up having that FT10 match.
"Does losing 13-0 really matter?" For perfect legend, yes it does. He was talking mad shit about how sonicfox plays online and said he would beat his kitana in a ft10. Sonicfox beat him 10-0 with erronblack. And beat him badly. Instead of accepting defeat graciously after sonicfox's deserved pop off, he goes to say "what I said was that I could beat your kitana" and then proceeds to get 3-0'd quickly.
It matters losing 13-0 in a 10-0 after you were the one who started talking mad shit to someone. He doesn't deserve the irl shit happening, but this solidified that he won't admit that he created that infamous evening by running his mouth and refusing to stop. This is why he's the Pefect 13gend.
Pf is the best 👌
All this silly goose has to say is “ I have to swallow my pride and admit sonic fox is an amazing player, he won fair and square and I apologize for saying what I said about u bro” or something like that, nice and simple. Then people would give perfect legend his roses he f’n wants soo bad and will recognize his own personal achievements….JUST LET GO OF UR EGO BRO
Perfect Legend is one of my favorite players! Big ups bro. It's crazy how people will rock with you for the moment then when you lose they claim you are trash. Smh!!