Supported Spindling: A Tutorial for Rolags and Batts
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- Have you ever wanted to make yarn with a supported spindle and didn't know where to start? I'll show you how to spin with a supported spindle using two different fiber prep options. Whether you're interested in historical reenactment or more modern applications, this tutorial will get you twirling...erm, rolling.
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Thank u for the video. Might I suggest that you include views of what your hands are doing especially for the first part using a rolag. I am going to try a support spindle soon. This video made it seem as if it were something that I can do.
Filming myself is always a bit difficult and I'm not sure I was effective at showing what I'm doing! Yes, I will do more to show my hands. 😊 Good luck with your spinning!
Thank you for making this video! I just got started with supported spindling and I've had trouble finding good video resources.
Watching your videos taught me to spin about 4 years ago so it seem appropriate to learn support spindle from you as well. My only wish after watching is that you would show me how to start. Thank you for doing this! :)
Thanks for pointing this out, Annette! I start the same way I do with my other spindling, with a leader yarn. You can work without a leader, but I like having one. All you do is take a yarn, tie it to the spindle shaft, then attach your fluff to the other end. I like to make a loop at the other end of the leader yarn and stick the fluff through the loop and fold it over. It's very secure. After some twists, I start drafting just as I showed in the video.
This was such a long video to film (over 3 weeks!) and edit, so I'm sorry I missed the part where I show you how to get started. But if you know how to attach fluff to a leader, then you know how to get started here too.
(Adding a link to my video in case others wondered about that too: th-cam.com/video/FtBLIg4JhNI/w-d-xo.html)
This is very helpful, especially your join demonstration. Thank you!
Thank you for sharing your love of spindle spinning. It’s nice to see your techniques.
Glad you like it! It's good to see a variety of techniques so when something doesn't work for you, there's another option to try. :)
This is a great tutorial. Love the spindle bowl.
When I am teaching someone to spin on a spindle wheel, I often get them spinning on the support spindle first as it's a great way to teach the hands drafting off the tip.
That's interesting, teaching supported first. I honestly hadn't heard of supported spindling until a few years into spinning. A few spinners in my guild back home could do longdraw, but that's all I had known at the time. I'm hoping to raise awareness of this method of spinning, and I'll add it to my beginner teach repertoire!
@@ExpertlyDyed There is a lot of advantage to teaching on a spindle first because we can show the spinner that they are in full control of the tool and the yarn. With a wheel, there's the natural tendency to let the machine bully us. But once they learn that they control the yarn, and the wheel is their companion there to help them, it goes so much smoother.
About one in 6 of my students like the spindle spinning better than the yarn spinning and find they can spin more yarn in a day on a spindle (snatch the empty moments of the day and transform them into yarn) than on a wheel.
I will probably rewatch this quite a bit. I am new to spinning, and my supported spindle is a metallic Royal Hare, with which I have yet to produce any usable yarn. I hope the methods here will work for me, as I find your detailed explanations appropriate to my current level of understanding. Thank you!
Great! These tutorials take a while to make but the different angles and fiber prep methods are so useful. Let me know if you have other questions! They best advice: keep practicing. :)
So we’ll put! I’m about to teach in a class format and it was such an excellent reminder from a beginners point of view. Thank you for sharing! I will most definitely be sending folks your way!💙🙏🌀🙌🌅
Wow, I just learned SO MICH from this video! I am very new to spinning yarn (a month in maybe 😅) and after drop spindles and Turkish spindles I am ready to try supported spindleing. What has *always* seem so hard to understand was how to just drag the drafting zone across the singles and somehow keep the same thickness of yarn. I always end up with dangerously thin areas and the area next to it is always very thick.
After watching this video once I feel like something just clicked into place and I have a better idea of how to achieve consistency while drafting one handed for the very first time!
What an amazing feeling to do it and see it actually work!
Thank you thank you thank you!
Nice tutorial Jennifer! Great idea about saving a sample of what you spin too. You did a great job with spinning your current yarn to be about the same grist as yarn you spun years ago. I am happy to see more tutorials about spindle spinning. It's the only method that I have available to spin yarn.
I had always tried to make a balance of tutorials and this is me getting back to that goal. I'm also hoping to get some prototype spindles from a local carpenter so I can have more spindles for tutorials. I only have my two Golding Ring Spindles and my supported spindle. It's hard to showcase the variety when I only have 3 spindles...
I'm also going to dye these yarns when I'm finished--always a nail-bitting moment--and show off how nice supported spun yarns look when dyed after spinning.
@@ExpertlyDyed I will look forward to upcoming videos!
Hey, thanks! That was really helpful :)) I was recently given an old supported spindle and your tutorial helped me to make it work :))
Thank you
Thank you to everyone who joined me for the premiere of this latest tutorial! It's so nice to be able to chat with you all. Have a fab weekend and I'll talk to you again next week for another video premiere. You can join in the updates on my Instagram and Twitter, and I post to the blog about once a week. Make it a great, fiber-filled week. 🐑
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i really want to get into support spindling but i dont understand how that becomes the yarn- do you ply it? if so, how does that happen? so much to figure out
A yarn is a bundle of individual fibers that have been held together with the tension of twist. The basic definition of yarn makes it really easy to see lots of things as yarn! In this video, I've twisted the fibers and because I wind it onto the spindle shaft, that twist tension holds the fiber in place. Now, it's a yarn! You might also see this referred to as a "single" or "single ply". A yarn single can be used as-is in knitting, crochet, and weaving.
Plying is a way of combining two (or more) yarns into a different kind of yarn. Plying yarn can add versatility to making yarn thicker, stronger, and more resistant to abrasion. I have some other videos on my channel that show the plying process 😊 You can ply on a supported spindle but I prefer to use my wheel ( if you don't have a wheel, you can always use the spindle!).
Spinning opens up a massive world of yarn design choices. It can be overwhelming for sure! If you ever need help, join one of my livestreams and we can go over everything together, in real time 😁
How do you take the new spun thread off the cop w/o it un twisting
Great question! I have a couple of videos you can watch to see ways I take off the yarn. There are many ways to take off yarn without untwisting, but the main principle is you have to keep the ends pinned so they don't just unravel.
Skeining:
Niddy Noddy: th-cam.com/video/CVcBiBdy7Tw/w-d-xo.html
Using a chair: th-cam.com/video/wCeEBlNYLAs/w-d-xo.html
Center pull ball: th-cam.com/video/O-IhfgXXhvY/w-d-xo.html
You can make a center pull ball (also sometimes called a 'plying ball') by wrapping the yarn around a removable core--like the paper from a toilet roll. You can also remove the entire yarn cop from the spindle shaft; that also depends on the type of spindle you use.
I hope those help!
Does the bowl need to match the spindle?
Not at all! Use whatever suits you 😁
I started on a drop spindle with which I was getting a lot of twist, and was wondering if I was spinning right on the supported because I was getting much less twist. Your video assured me that it was okay. :) I was wanting to ply this yarn (from the supported) with the yarn from the drop - but it seems that that may not be a good idea because of twist differences...would you agree?
That's a good question. Technically, you can ply both of those yarns together and it'd be alright, the drawbacks being it would have extra twist energy that could distort your fabric (could be a fun effect though!) and the supported spun single might abrade a little faster than the suspended spindle spun single. I would advise to ply like yarn with like yarn, to avoid the differences in twist. That said, I would love to hear about an experiment where you plied a single from each type of method and see what the outcome was. Would it make a fun fabric? I dunno, worth spinning 5-10g and seeing what happens. :)
Have you heard of youtube shorts? I think when it comes to instructional videos to supliment them with shorts of just the individual techniques by themsleves with no instruction or voice over where you just show what you are doing. I find when I hit a road block in an instruction that seeing just that one thing being done as smooth as an instructor can do really helps with the process. I do love your little crystal at the top of your spindle, Eye of Sauron. :)
I have considered doing shorts as well, especially to update my earliest tutorials from 2012. I'm still working out what I want to do for my brand in 2022 because I'm picking up where I left off in 2015. I do love watching people make stuff too; it's so mesmerising.
I love this spindle and that I could customise it. I also love reading the books and watching the movies (all extended versions, of course). At the risk of supporting Mr. Bezos too much, I really look forward to the new series they're planning!
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Wo hast du deine supported spindle gekauft?
Hi ! I am just starting supporter spindle , bought one with a small cup on the top of the spindle like you showed but now I am struggling to how to start at the very Beginning with the roving … where to put the leader if any ..? Thanks
Hiya! What you'll need to do is get your end yarn close to the shaft, overlap the ends, and add twist. I usually draft against a tight twist (overtwist the leader a bit) and draft gently. Once I've got enough yarn spun past the join, I'll put that onto the shaft.
I know what you mean! If you need a visual, let me know as I'm planning a livestream on Sunday this week
@@ExpertlyDyed would love a visual for sure ! 👍
@helenedumoulin9092 Okay! Let me prep some fibre and address the question in my livestream tomorrow afternoon 🙂
@@ExpertlyDyed how do I join your livestream and what time…?
@helenedumoulin9092 Click the 'Live' tab on my channel. The upcoming stream is listed there, with all the details. Click 'notify me' so you don't miss it. I stream at 4pm UK time, typically on a Sunday but sometimes on Saturday. You can post a question there so I can cover it during the stream. 😊
Is that a mirkwood spindle?
Thank you for such a lovely tutorial. I've picked up many tips but have a problem I'm not sure how to correct. I began with a drop spindle so use a short draw (by nature, I seem to prefer perfecting small amounts, etc.) but it's left me not knowing how to do a long draw without breaking the yarn in ultra thin spots. I prepare each strip before using it........perhaps I shouldn't? Do you just take the rolags and/or batts & use them as is? Perhaps I'm causing my own problems with making everything so neat before I begin. I want to use my support spindle 80% of the time because I'm sold on them so need to find out what I'm doing wrong to prevent me getting a long draw. Help! I hope you add to your tutorials & I am certainly going to follow the links you've given us. Perfect. Many thanks.
Where can I get a bowl like this? It’s beautiful
Thanks! It came from the shop 'Viking Santa' on Etsy. I'm not sure if they're still in business, or if they still have this style, but that's where I got mine. I have one mini spinning bowl in my shop. Message me if you'd like it!
What type or style of cup works best for the spindle?
I use the spinning bowl you see, but I have also enjoyed using the mini travel spinning bowls that fit in your pocket. They're not listed in my shop right now but I can always add one onto your order. I pack up everything in an old coffee box. 😊
How do you not get twist in the rolag. I'll never get long draw lol
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Wow, those cops are huge on your spindle! I'm teaching myself support spindling from drop spindle and my spinning wheel. Thanks for the video, do you recommend a Tibetan, Viking, or Russian style spindle to start? A weight?
You can really pack on yarn to this sort of spindle! I have mainly used Tibetan style supported spindles (www.etsy.com/uk/shop/expertlydyed?ref=seller-platform-mcnav§ion_id=8126931) but any of those should work well for spinning wool. I've heard that supported spindling teaches you how to spin more easily, so I think I'll start teaching this method when I begin doing in person classes (which I hope to do later this year).
I really enjoy your episodes and learnt how to drop spindle from you years ago. (Thanks!) I still only use a spindle because I enjoy the slow simpleness of the process even if I don't produce much yarn in the end! I have been considering the supported spindle for a while now because I find my left shoulder aches after a while when I use the drop spindle. So thanks for the tutorial just when I needed it! I have been curious about the underspinning-overplying technique for quite a while now. Is the resultant yarn unbalanced because there is more S twist than Z twist and, if so, will the knitting produced using this type of yarn skew?
Thanks for watching! I do find that supported spindling does help with shoulder issues. I picked up weightlifting in early 2020 and I notice how sore arms/shoulders can restrict certain movements...but I'm happy spinning supported while my body recovers from exercise. As long as you don't draft too far away from your core, this may give you an option when your shoulder gets achy. :)
The underspun-overply yarn is perfect for knitting. I made a hat for my partner with a yarn made this way and you'd never tell I did anything different. No skewing at all, and there is still a decent amount of stitch definition (it was a knit pattern on a purl background). The samples I showed in this video haven't been set, so this shows how nicely the yarn sets after washing.
@@ExpertlyDyed Thanks for the feedback
Always thoroughly label the saved sample, someday you won't remember all the important details.
Absolutely! I am mostly good about labeling, including the farm where I got the fleece. I was less concerned about these details when I first started.
This way of spindling look like you get less over twist than the drop spindle
Yes, you can vary the amount of twist much more with a supported spindle than you can with a suspended (drop) spindle. A supported spin yarn doesn't need to support the weight of the spindle and the growing bundle of yarn. I really love being able to under spin the single and over ply the 2ply because it makes a really soft, really round yarn. I have a few in my Etsy shop or else on www.expertlydyed.com. I test spin everything personally. :)
Ok, for anyone who watched the premier, or now, this is Jennifer’s video (introducing at greater length) her supported spindle tools used in this video.
th-cam.com/video/c-NhAR2Dt-U/w-d-xo.html
Great sleuthing through my channel! This video also shows me spinning silk hankies (worth doing a follow up, I think) and you can see how the whorl looks. And you can see little Baby Jen when she was still in her 20s. :)
@@ExpertlyDyed well, interestingly enough, I didn’t go looking for it. This video just followed another I watched concerning supported spinning and voila! It was you and your Smaug. So I thought, let’s add it to this one so viewers can learn about these products and your experience using them.
@@ExpertlyDyed “Baby Jen”….. heeeeeeheeee. You still look this young! You don’t age. But it was also interesting to hear how you were planning your departure to England for studies.