And him saying that stupid ogre card is somehow still good. “Cards get more expensive? Just don’t play them!” If the ogre card was a 4/4 or overstated for the cost, I could see it. But it’s WORSE than an average drop at it’s mana cost. Trump’s reasoning blows my mind sometimes.
@@Dwhizzle But then one of the later games his stuff got discounted by about 4 mana making it a 2/4 for -1 Mana. This card is actualy good in arena because the card quality is generaly much worse then in constructed so if a meh card gets raised, it´s less of a problem but if a meh card gets discounted suddenly it´s better then meh. Obviously if your average card quality is amazing, then you don´t want to play or choose it during drafts but if you have meh or worse card quality overall, then this gets better and better.
@@Dwhizzle This is the epitome of results oriented thinking. There are four cases: Ogre targets a card you were going to play, and discounts it: You gain a mana. Ogre targets a card you were going to play otherwise, and increases the cost: Sometimes you lose a mana, sometimes you have a card that's better to play instead so you lose less than one mana worth. Ogre targets a card you weren't going to play and increases the cost: You lose nothing. Ogre targets a card you weren't going to play and discounts it: Sometimes the card is now better than something else you'd have played. Comparing 1 and 2 shows that on average when it targets a card you would have played, you get a slight benefit. Comparing 3 and 4 shows that on average when it targets a card you would not have played, you gain a benefit. Therefore overall the card's effect is *slightly* positive. Only slightly, but still positive.
Wait that "increase" meant a PRICE increase?? I thought it would have a 50% chance to increase the cost reduction by 1 every turn, and was already like "yeah that’s probably too slow", but who would ever play this card like that??
it's also just the high elf leader of the time renaming his people the high elves to the blood elves as a memory and way to honour all those that had been slaughtered by the scourge
But after the sunwell was cleansed, so was their mana addiction, right? So aren’t they only blood elves by name now and not much different from high elves anymore?
@@ariellee2329 High Elves were always mana junkies, iirc. The reason they splintered off the Night Elves was because the Well of Eternity got blown up and they needed a fix, so they moved towards the Sunwell. The "Blood Elf" is just rebranding because Arthas
34:44 why wouldn't you play horde operative and copy both of the enemy secrets, then you'll instantly know what secrets they are and can then play around them 100%
He was wrong about the value of trading. As it turns out, trading your time in to work gives you high stats for the cost. Value is derived from the product of time, not time itself.
33:45 (5/6)*(4/5)*(3/4) = 0.5 is the chance to NOT get a certain choice out of 6 given 3 chances, with 1 less option every time (so of course the chance TO get it is 1 - 0.5 = 0.5)
@@lucasng4712 maybe, but also super uninteractive. playing vs quest mage is like watching a shitty movie about a guy drawing cards and pointing at your face
@@Ein_Mann_im_Internet Totally agree, but the issue is wild is in reality the same and arena is rigged :P that leaves only BG's... which are right now unbalanced. You basically can only pick your poison :p
@23:00 I don't see how it is incorrect to play a 2/2 and a 2/1 that draws you card at the start of turn and have a 5/1. If the opponent has a ping he has to choose between the 5/1 or 2/1 which are both a threat and if his only answer on that turn was the 6/2 he played it was really good for trump. Also, how is playing a single 3/4 that does nothing more temp than producing the same amount of stats with upside? What? It's weird how when he should go for value he doesn't and when he has a burn/zoo he plays for value.
@@mikehunt3426 for the amount of time he spends on the game he still misunderstands, misplays and misreads cards constantly. the average player doesn't get 8 hours a day to play, prem subscriptions to resource sites and twitch viewers for this shit. he's not dumb and he does play up to his level sometimes, but the man is exceptionally sloppy and inattentive. tho I'll give it to him, i think 95% people would be reduced to plantlike intelligence playing this so much over the years.
@@mikehunt3426 oh he’s absolutely better than I am, and probably 80-90% of people out there. But considering he’s a streamer and has played this game for probably 10k+ hours, he makes a ridiculous number of misplays.
After being stuck in this skinnerbox of a game for years and then quitting and suddenly being suggested Trump again years after I can see I did the right thing.
... I thought you were going to say it correctly, then you said what everybody says and they're wrong. You didn't raise him A forge fiend. You just saw his forge fiend. You would have to play 2 at once to be raising.
They need to make arena not rigged anymore* :] @Acrow First part is right, second is wrong. Do you realize how rigged it is for old infiniters? Better you are from a certain lvl more rigged it gets. From old arena buddies on my list (inf. obviously) who still have played recently everybody thinks arena is rigged. 7/7 or 8/8. If you have an account with 7+ lifetime you basically can see it with bare eye. So yeah, that part 'good enough' not really :P However, because of that there is no better place for newbie: you get various handicaps with no dust requirements whiles strong players get fucked hard xd
I really don’t get why they don’t just do what duels does. You can have “casual arena” where it’s free but with no rewards and the “heroic arena” where you pay 150 gold to get rewards. I seriously don’t see why they don’t do this.
Eh. I don't think he needs go so far as to throw arena runs. F2P is not the same as newbie. Just because he is doing F2P doesn't mean he has to act like a newbie. Lots of F2P players are extremely good at arena because it gets them good rewards. He doesn't throw in constructed to emulate being a noob. He shouldn't throw in arena either, or in any other mode.
Too bad new players don't have the experience or luck Trump does in Arena, rendering this free-to-play kinda moot if he's just gonna keep playing it...
They have "luck" written into their account ;] +1 lose in pairings, they never queue into infiniters, occurance bonus in draft. Not to mention that better you are more severe penalties you get right now at arena which obviously doesn't apply to them at all.Try playing arena on infinite account :> It's basically playing against casino. New players don't really need to be very lucky because they are already both lucky and not unlucky. If you can't take advantage of them it simply means you need to improve ;]
The warrior who silenced the bloodbound imp instead of the divine shield... God bless his little heart
Sigma move
Probably traumatized from Standard, poor lad.
Thank you for being consistently mildly entertaining Trump
The consistency is key
"Mildly" lmaoo
@@rafe9852 it's accurate. Exactly what you need to fall asleep to
Highlight of this video is Trump debating to keep Runthak, then the ogre just raising the price every turn so he never gets to play it.
And him saying that stupid ogre card is somehow still good. “Cards get more expensive? Just don’t play them!” If the ogre card was a 4/4 or overstated for the cost, I could see it. But it’s WORSE than an average drop at it’s mana cost. Trump’s reasoning blows my mind sometimes.
@@Dwhizzle But then one of the later games his stuff got discounted by about 4 mana making it a 2/4 for -1 Mana. This card is actualy good in arena because the card quality is generaly much worse then in constructed so if a meh card gets raised, it´s less of a problem but if a meh card gets discounted suddenly it´s better then meh. Obviously if your average card quality is amazing, then you don´t want to play or choose it during drafts but if you have meh or worse card quality overall, then this gets better and better.
@@Dwhizzle This is the epitome of results oriented thinking.
There are four cases:
Ogre targets a card you were going to play, and discounts it: You gain a mana.
Ogre targets a card you were going to play otherwise, and increases the cost: Sometimes you lose a mana, sometimes you have a card that's better to play instead so you lose less than one mana worth.
Ogre targets a card you weren't going to play and increases the cost: You lose nothing.
Ogre targets a card you weren't going to play and discounts it: Sometimes the card is now better than something else you'd have played.
Comparing 1 and 2 shows that on average when it targets a card you would have played, you get a slight benefit.
Comparing 3 and 4 shows that on average when it targets a card you would not have played, you gain a benefit.
Therefore overall the card's effect is *slightly* positive. Only slightly, but still positive.
Wait that "increase" meant a PRICE increase?? I thought it would have a 50% chance to increase the cost reduction by 1 every turn, and was already like "yeah that’s probably too slow", but who would ever play this card like that??
@@Icetea-2000 decrease every turn would be insane even in constructed. Though I'm not convinced with the possitive argument trump gives about it.
High Elves became Blood elves after Arthas destroyed the sunwell
the thirst for magic, turned them into a race that feeds on magic from other people
it's also just the high elf leader of the time renaming his people the high elves to the blood elves as a memory and way to honour all those that had been slaughtered by the scourge
But after the sunwell was cleansed, so was their mana addiction, right? So aren’t they only blood elves by name now and not much different from high elves anymore?
@@ariellee2329 more humble, at least.
In come the red shirt guys.
@@ariellee2329 High Elves were always mana junkies, iirc. The reason they splintered off the Night Elves was because the Well of Eternity got blown up and they needed a fix, so they moved towards the Sunwell. The "Blood Elf" is just rebranding because Arthas
Does anyone know where was the "mad man" sound clip is originally from??
Great series always excited for the next upload
Yeah me too
I mean, Blood Elves were introduced in Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne. So maybe it was thought out, as the base game featured the destruction of Quel'Danas
ELVEN ARCHER
DARK IRON DWARF
LOOT HOARDER!
If I knew this video was going to be THIS retro, I'd have busted out my Pac Man hat.
I also saw a yeti on one opponent
I never knew what Silvermoon Guardian meant by "Remember Quel'Thalas". Thank you @Trump for the lore bomb!
34:44 why wouldn't you play horde operative and copy both of the enemy secrets, then you'll instantly know what secrets they are and can then play around them 100%
52:38 Pretty sure he was referring to the battle city finals
This is what Karl Marx was writing about when he talks about class revolution
Eat the rich.
Consume the middle class
@@DreamingGod05 Arm the proletariat comrades
He was wrong about the value of trading. As it turns out, trading your time in to work gives you high stats for the cost. Value is derived from the product of time, not time itself.
am I missing something at 41:25? why is Trump surprised that his ghoul isn't killed? ghoul has 4 health, opponent has 3 damage on board.
He could have used a banana to get 4 damage
@@yotamshitrit6820 He already played both bananas
Why not swap the health of the peasant at 22:50
I think the opponent at 13:00 has a name that's phonetic for the old batman transition lol
33:45 (5/6)*(4/5)*(3/4) = 0.5 is the chance to NOT get a certain choice out of 6 given 3 chances, with 1 less option every time (so of course the chance TO get it is 1 - 0.5 = 0.5)
entertaining as always
very cozy video (specially at night)
Isn't Valeera a Blood Elf?
A classic Dennis move at 5:29
What program do you use to get those values under the card for arena?
@@bradleynewth6169 thanks for the info
Can anyone tell me name of the arena helper app Trump uses? Many thanks!
Arenatracker
I think Trump isnt enjoying the standard meta with how much he is avoiding playing it in this series lol
because playing against quest mage and quest warlock sucks complete ass.
no fun, rather play arena or battlegrounds or tavernbrawl
@@Ein_Mann_im_Internet It's just harder
@@lucasng4712 maybe, but also super uninteractive. playing vs quest mage is like watching a shitty movie about a guy drawing cards and pointing at your face
@@Ein_Mann_im_Internet Totally agree, but the issue is wild is in reality the same and arena is rigged :P that leaves only BG's... which are right now unbalanced. You basically can only pick your poison :p
@@DonFreeq kinda sad huh
Great video 👍
what add on is he using in pick phase?
Despite the supposed 35% wr with druid, I went 12-2 today, chose it because of a quest. Deck wasn't even crazy, not even arbor up, just good tempo.
Nice, good job
It'll be partly self-fulfilling. Because all the pros 'know' it's bad only 'noobs' will pick the class and have a bad winrate with it.
lor'themar is a good dude
Valeera too
@23:00 I don't see how it is incorrect to play a 2/2 and a 2/1 that draws you card at the start of turn and have a 5/1. If the opponent has a ping he has to choose between the 5/1 or 2/1 which are both a threat and if his only answer on that turn was the 6/2 he played it was really good for trump. Also, how is playing a single 3/4 that does nothing more temp than producing the same amount of stats with upside? What? It's weird how when he should go for value he doesn't and when he has a burn/zoo he plays for value.
Because he’s not a great player.
@@Dwhizzle i mean, he's much better than the average player. People keep giving him crap but he's much better than average.
@@mikehunt3426 for the amount of time he spends on the game he still misunderstands, misplays and misreads cards constantly. the average player doesn't get 8 hours a day to play, prem subscriptions to resource sites and twitch viewers for this shit.
he's not dumb and he does play up to his level sometimes, but the man is exceptionally sloppy and inattentive. tho I'll give it to him, i think 95% people would be reduced to plantlike intelligence playing this so much over the years.
@@breach_meidith yeah for sure and also he streams so maybe that takes a lot of attention for him.
@@mikehunt3426 oh he’s absolutely better than I am, and probably 80-90% of people out there. But considering he’s a streamer and has played this game for probably 10k+ hours, he makes a ridiculous number of misplays.
Aquire the sire, unbench the kench and *preserve the curve*
What's the name of the app he uses for drafting??
Can anyone tell me what kind of application he's using for the card's winrate and all that good stuff?
It's called Arenatracker for the statistics while drafting, and for the sidebar it's called Hearthstone Deck Tracker
@@bradleynewth6169 Thanks a lot!
What tool is trump using for the card winrates?
Does anyone know his deck tracker?
what extension is that
Which arena draft software do you use?
You bless us!
1:08:47 it's woodys on another account!
A lot of close games!
After being stuck in this skinnerbox of a game for years and then quitting and suddenly being suggested Trump again years after I can see I did the right thing.
When did he start saying "right meow"
And why
... I thought you were going to say it correctly, then you said what everybody says and they're wrong.
You didn't raise him A forge fiend. You just saw his forge fiend. You would have to play 2 at once to be raising.
that mouse click
... why is Desert Obelisk being offered in Arena whatsoever??
They need to make Arena more accessible for F2P players
It’s technically the most ftp friendly mode if you are good enough
@@acrowfliedover I agree. I’m F2P and I learned how to go infinite by failing, a lot lol. Maybe lower entrance fee to 100 instead of 150?
They need to make arena not rigged anymore* :]
@Acrow First part is right, second is wrong. Do you realize how rigged it is for old infiniters? Better you are from a certain lvl more rigged it gets. From old arena buddies on my list (inf. obviously) who still have played recently everybody thinks arena is rigged. 7/7 or 8/8. If you have an account with 7+ lifetime you basically can see it with bare eye. So yeah, that part 'good enough' not really :P However, because of that there is no better place for newbie: you get various handicaps with no dust requirements whiles strong players get fucked hard xd
I really don’t get why they don’t just do what duels does. You can have “casual arena” where it’s free but with no rewards and the “heroic arena” where you pay 150 gold to get rewards. I seriously don’t see why they don’t do this.
@@BannockMeatball money
Those bad plays will kill this poor men. xD
Lady Liadrin is a good guy
Bro how the heck do you get 12 Arena wins just like so casually all the time, it makes me so angry lol
I can't even get 7 bro =/ lol
Hey gang. Whats RNG mean?
Propability
Has Trump ever given a heart in the comments?
Yes, he and Jens do with some regularity. There is one on this video.
That Kaiba vs Yugi description ...
Does Trump know how little those description narrows it down?
How to hit a legend on an f2p account?
Just casually win every arena you play.
In most times u should have played stealer of souls on curve,but oh well.
Hmm yes, tell me more about your rock rager.
9:09
good
8 mana - "I also could just play 8+1".
Yeah, I think I'm gonna *not* follow your investment advices.
Hi trump
F2P arena is just arena change my mind
MAOR ARENA VIDS STAT
Did trump drop a random Marxist line? Wtf 😒
In next f2p run I would like to see Trump getting 5 wins and then retiring. Having 12 arena wins as a newbie is cheating
Eh. I don't think he needs go so far as to throw arena runs. F2P is not the same as newbie. Just because he is doing F2P doesn't mean he has to act like a newbie. Lots of F2P players are extremely good at arena because it gets them good rewards.
He doesn't throw in constructed to emulate being a noob. He shouldn't throw in arena either, or in any other mode.
🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈
Too bad new players don't have the experience or luck Trump does in Arena, rendering this free-to-play kinda moot if he's just gonna keep playing it...
They have "luck" written into their account ;] +1 lose in pairings, they never queue into infiniters, occurance bonus in draft. Not to mention that better you are more severe penalties you get right now at arena which obviously doesn't apply to them at all.Try playing arena on infinite account :> It's basically playing against casino.
New players don't really need to be very lucky because they are already both lucky and not unlucky. If you can't take advantage of them it simply means you need to improve ;]
I mean... New players don't have the experience Trump have in standard either lol