An Open Source Motherboard?!
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That dude behind Linus at the beginning, lmao
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@@Stanton_High no
He was playing off his awkwardness but it was following him
@@Stanton_High fuck you whiteboi
You guys are tgay.
Guy at 00:01
- Me when I see the sponsor bit starting
nice quality meme a strong 7/10
mhh thats a ten@@Albin_491
Nah, don't be like that... Daddy linus need some bread
Vincent Laurensius yeah he gets paid for the views not if we actually watch the part or not
@@grammarpolice7339 actually the charts saying how much the ad part is watched might be used to determine how much he gets paid, not totally sure.
3:21 As one of the contributors to Xonotic, it was heartwarming to see this game being used to showcase the motherboard. Which as a fan of open-source I find itself a heartwarming product to know is now in existence.
"if you bought a Mac in the early 2000s you've used it before" so did everyone with a xbox360 or ps3 or wii
GameCube and WiiU as well
Huge numbers of network switches from Cisco, HP, Extreme, Avaya, Juniper, etc. have used Power architecture CPUs in the past. Only in recent years has that begun to change.
Wow I didn’t know that my old gamecube is powered by an IBM cpu, that is cool.
The guy with the coffee has really really bad pathfinding...
Next from nVidia: Ray traced paths
@@CaveyMoth path traced pathing. Wait a minute...
here a linus best i go away or he would dropp my coffe
COME AND GET YOUR BIRTHDAY PRESENT
surely its not as bad as followers in skyrim
0:03 "Im walking forward, i wasn't sleep for last two days because i was doing presentations of this smart technology that no one buy anyway, just need to end this coffe and have enough energy to continue my work. Oh, camera... WOAH! A PERSON!"
Poor guy, lol.
win
Finally Linus. Please buy one of these systems and do a performance review. See how it stacks up against typical x86 systems. Please
@Linus Tech Tips They are available tomorrow :=)
Is power9 supposed to be better and faster than x64?
@@johnnyblack4261 there are advantages to having a piece of hardware written specifically for your software, this goes beyond "Is it faster than x86_64"
@@hammerheadcorvette4 I want to know the architecture cause like I don't want to be limited to 4 GB of RAM like 32bit is.
@@johnnyblack4261 32bit is only Limited to 4GB on Windows... Linux with a PAE kernel allows for 64GB, but 1 process cannot address more than 4GB. Also, none of that applies in this case because these cpu's are not x86_64. These are OpenSource solutions. Traditional x86_64 cpu's have totally different and Proprietary ISA, these use a PowerISA and allow for open source ISA's. In comparison these are 12 core processors with 8 threads per core. so these are 96 thread cpu's.
I could go on and on, but you need to do research on what cpu architectures are and how they work.
2:19 Technically, it doesn't have dual BIOS. One's for the BMC service processor and the other is for the mainboard.
For those who have no idea. Xonotic (the game Linus played) is in fact modified Quake 1.
Thank you I was looking for the game
@@Ipwn477 Sure, give it a go, there's still a plenty of people playing. It's opengl, so Windows, Mac, Linux... you name it.
A fork of nexuiz (which in turns runs on the DarkPlaces engine, which is based on the quake engine. A nice engine to be sure) to be more precise. I actually got it on the rig I'm typing it from. Quite fun.
Open source game
And it's a fantastic game, let me tell you
8:27 *Casually dropping a potentially expensive CPU*
- *_Linus Drop Tips_*
_luckily it's dead_
Yes its dead... after he dropped it
@@joaolucas7734
Linus: This is a dead one right?
Staff member: Yeah
_Linus feels relieved_
Staff member: It is now
_Paranoia intensifies_
the guy is a total butterfingered klutz isnt he? lol
Raptor sells POWER9 for $375 (quad core) up to $2625 (22-core). They're surprisingly reasonably priced. They're also screaming fast for a lot of workloads. Unfortunately, the platform is still quite expensive, you won't find anything like a cheap X99 board that takes a Xeon chip. Cheapest board is $975 for a really cut down one with two memory and two PCIe slots.
"this is the dead one right?"
IBM: preventing tech apocalypse using machine learning and some shit
Me: Watching YT videos while eating
The actual potential here is kind of mindblowing.
Check out the G5 Macs. They were essentially Power 5 systems from 2003-2005 that could rival PCs that came out around 5 years later.
The downside to them was huge amounts of heat and large power consumption, that's why the G5 never made it to a laptop, and the heat, why it never reached 3GHz.
It seems they've finally figured all that out though. Massive potential here.
My G5 sounds like an airport sometimes. Nice to see this changing.
That dude at the beginning. Just changed his mind.
Does this mean I can finally download motherboard to go with my RAM I've been downloading?
I have been using a downloaded virtual PC for years, it’s virtually the most powerful consumer PC ever produced and for the low cost of an Internet connection.
Yes, Damn sure downloadable graphics card are coming soon for some sweet gaming on a fully downloaded pc.
There is actually an open source graphics card. Not sure how for the development is these days though.
Sure you could... if you had the means to fabricate them. =)
@@RuiFungYip You can download RAM from Thinigiverse and 3d print them (its about the joke "download more RAM", but you could use these as dummy holders, kind of like real companies were doing with fake RAM sticks because RAM was too expensive, and they wanted to make it look like you had a fully loaded system....). I've printed an Intel CPU before (you can use them for protecting pins), but I joked that's about how useful it would be after I get done with them on extreme overclocking, so being plastic its just as useful!
power was also used in the gamecube, wii, wiiU, xbox360, and a heavily modified version in the ps3
Beat me to it. ;)
We also cant ignore the fact the wii used radeon graphics.
@@yako0006 Back before AMD bought ATI.
Wow so thats the reason why ps3 was so ahead of its time. I mean some ps3 games still play as well as ps4. If power pc architecture had remained in consumer market i think we would be better off. I believe the biggest downfall at the time was mac not achieving 3ghz with optinum power cobsumption and intel was
lots of cars used them in their EMUs, as well as Honda ASIMO and the F35 jet.
Always love to see Linus giving the open source community some love.
2018: Download Free RAM
2019: Download Free Motherboard
You'll get the pinouts and schematics. You need to make the parts yourself.
Was its source "opened" after you dropped it?
because it was open before he dropped it all the source splashed on the floor
@@saucybackport *cue Valve's creepy intro track*
@@saucybackport - So instead of the magic smoke getting out, the magic source leaked out.
update: IBM POWER ISA also got open sourced recently:
www.tomshardware.com/news/ibm-power-isa-open-source,40219.html
@@FrankHarwald
So is openPower now as free as RISC-V?
Great video! I love seeing more of the open hardware and software on this channel recently! Thanks, LTT! :)
Nice to see there was screen time for both SiFive and IBM/Raptor. As a free software advocate, seeing some competition to the X86/ARM duopoly is refreshing.
I'm surprised Linus didn't drop the guy's coffee at the start
He dropped the cpu at the end though
But he dropped one of the CPUs.
@@bit2shift I know, I watched the video, and someone else already reminded me of that
@@bit2shift Of course they gave him a dead one LOL
@@SirDaShadow if not, now it is definitiv dead 😂
Hopefully hardware manufacturer embrace open source standards more widely.
When it comes to technology and American tech sector, IBM is probably the most innovative and most forward thinking of all of them. Good job IBM!
I'd say too forward thinking, their tech so so far into the future there is not market for it most of the time, like their quantum computer, their oldschool smartphone, etc.
You've done so many videos about open source components, when are you going to combine them to create the full open source PC ? We're waiting !
He just had to drop something...
Chefies Bass Boosts I know right but then it wouldn’t be a linus tech tips video
He dropped CPU at 8:27
"This is the dead one, right?" Well, now it certainly is
Okay guys, show of hands:
Who would like to see LTT build a motherboard from source!?
Cause I would.
Like the idea, by my estimate it would have to be a kinda long series.. since it's no simple task!
erlendse and water cooling a Red One is a simple task that’ll take one single 10 minute video.
I mean, they’re already swinging for some tall fences, might as well take aim at one more...
The PCB is pretty easy to do, and for the CPU he could get it fabbed or just get one from NXP or IBM. Sockets can be 3D printed, and chips can either be bought or, as earlier, fabbed. This could take a long time.
Wouldn't be an LTT video without Linus dropping other people's expensive toys. LOL
YES! XONOTIC! I love this game so much, and 'Meltdown' from Xonotic is my hype song.
Linus "Intel please send me another Xeon, and IBM please send me a 144 thread CPU"
Did you know?
A job title at IBM is MASTER INVENTOR
Hmmm.... Wonder how much kragle they have.
As an engineer for a Power shop, it's great to see the love. And great to see what comes next!
I enjoy you reporting you on these events... Some of my favorite LTT videos or when you go to CES or computex
I've been thinking that open source hardware is going to be the future, and I've been watching for more manufacturers to start moving this direction. Glad to see that the potential is getting there, still, long way to go, but the future of looking bright!
the unsaid thing is that computer development has gotten too expensive for even the giants to push everywhere all the time so by making everything open they're getting incremental developments for free
Power10(not caps anymore) now has proprietary firmware in 2 of the core chips :333
Somehow I've been using computers for 20 years and watching LTT for a hundred episodes or so and I still don't understand half of what Linus is saying in this video. Soo much more to learn...
Just because you know how to drive a car doesn't mean you can build one
i am not even 20 years old bra
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Super cool video! I love content like this and the RISC-V video. Keep it up LTT!
That is seriously cool not to mention the fact that if this becomes more widespread in the future it will be very easy to get this the boards fixed
Linus is the only reason I became interested in circuit boards and computers amazing vids btw
tell me you gained real knowledge from books and a prof someplace. I luv linus don't get me wrong but switch inspiring to terrifying around circuit boards is more like it. GROUNDING is a damn must when your playing with thousands of dollars of gear. btw the scientifically proven best outfit to fix tech in, a cotton t-shirt and jeans. sandals not included ;)
Robert Corkum, of course, I did my own research and knowledge collecting I'm just saying like I never thought I liked computers that much until I watched him. I'm not going to put my future on a socks and sandles man XD
1) predict when the next civilization wiping solar flare will happen
2) instead of telling anyone, make a buttload of machines that can resist the solar flare based on OpenPower
3) ????
4) Profit
This made me chuckle.
you have to know about physics to understand that it's impossible to save electronics device from solar flare pulse without tesla cage and even more to not cut signal whit the cage
Then it's not impossible to save electronics from the solar flare.
Of course, you will probably need to do wacky shit like using a laser to feed power to the computer.
How do you make a profit by selling stuff when there are no working Economies after "the next civilization wiping solar flare" fucking yeeted all of humanity back into the dark middle ages? + It would be a modern day version of the middle ages - dark ages with a fuck ton of people + an even bigger fuck ton of pretty scary weapons which still work fine after solar flares.
All you accomplish, if you truly have the only working (now extremely valueable) pre-crisis technology on your hands, would be getting People to hunt you down and take everything away from you by force (and maybe even kill you). You only make yourself a target for powerful people, which means the only way for you to pull that off would be for you to actually have the means to really defend yourself in case someone tries anything... but that is probably impossible, because you surely won't have the upper hand if some nato forces decide to show up and "appropriate" literally all of your technology. lmao
Glad to see people still using the classic method to post responses.
It's cool seeing a Linus video about stuff we make at my job.
Please more of this. Superb video. I am very keen on finally getting rid of my proprietary hardware, after I successfully left windows/mac. I neutered the intel management engine but am curious about RISC-V and Power9 to be used in affordable workstations.
Woah! Didn't expect to see a Linus Tech Tips video about this! I have one of these systems myself and I'm quite happy with it. I wouldn't recommend this sort of thing unless you have at least some Linux/FreeBSD experience of course.
I bought mine because I like POWER, but you have a much more trustworthy system with a completely open design (even the remote management is open source).
Linus playing video games on dev hardware ... ok fine ... but who the hell installed a game on it in the first place ?!
There's a plushie of openSUSE's mascot on the PC, so presumably it runs openSUSE, meaning Linus could just run `sudo zypper install xonotic` to install it.
I guess they put it on there for him?
It could be bots, but its quite possible that there were at least other 5 people "displaying the PCI-E capabilities" of the OpenPower.
@@dan_loup Other Linuses (Lini?) ... impossible :)
It's a desktop computer, not a development box (though I admit for Linux types the lines are blurred). Who doesn't have a game on their desktop somewhere? :)
Danm, but when he will take his holidays? I NEED a pause from linus. His face, his humor and his joy of life, i can't take anymore. Please Linus, take 1 month holyday.( from one of the first french fan )
I really hope the power architecture becomes popular again, IBM's work is really impressive
linus: it's the dead one right?
ibm guy: it is now
THANK YOU for making open source projects more popular. You are our hero in Linux community!
Ewww... Linux
@@basshead. ? What wrong with linux
Linus made linux.
+shuwan4games Pretty hard to use and not user friendly at all.
Windows > MacOS > Linux
@@basshead. ? maybe on the past but not anymore with distros like ubuntu or mint.
when they give Linus a dead CPU because they know he'll drop it... and drops it...
I love the range you guys have outside of the gaming industry
I learned nothing from this video, but i feel like i'm getting smarter
Mashed Potahtoo your not alone
It feels the same bro at starting but u will end up learning a lot from this hardworking virgin ass
@@Vieledspy you're !
@Sufyan Siddiqui yeah bro I was just saying... he has a very cute daughter 😍 😍 and smart son
@@rohitrawat823 lol you salty AF
* waiting for linus to drop something *
* end cards play *
"wow, good job linus"
* extra scene where linus drops something *
"THERE IT IS!"
I suspected from the title that this was at least in part in response to the security fiasco we had with spectre and meltdown. Good to see a true gamechanger from IBM!
I'll never stop saying it, please never change your intro, it's the best.
*Open source hardware*
Linus: Let's install Windows on it.
I'm pretty sure he only said Linux and BSD.
@@azarilh2355 r/whoooosh
@@WigglyWings A bad joke.
@thegeorgezila it wasn't funny. It just is a bad joke.
Azarilh bad joke
"if you have very deep pockets" *drops this CPU as well
Linus occasionally going full "What if" with weird computing topics is awesome. Linux gaming, Open Hardware, Quantum Computing... All cool stuff. Keep it up!
Love how lately there is lot of open source and Linux references in LTT videos! :)
That guy in the start
Fun fact regarding solar flares. In the year 2012 a solar flare happened and missed us by a margin of 9 days. If it had hit the earth the damage would have been in the trillions in USA alone. So yeah scary stuff.
Was it 21 december? :T
Azarilh I understood that reference.
9 days is a pretty good margin. Missed us by that much || .....
Over 23,000,000 km.
@@robertt9342 it's only 2% of a year tho.
@mcj201 Huh, odd. :P
It's always good to keep up with new advances and ideas.
We need more of this...
IBM: Make PowerPC Great Again!
We need to build from source - IBM
Xonotic's playerbase doubled during the filming of this video.
I hope so, Xonotic is actually great.
Thank you Linus, you magnificent bastard, for finally doing a video about Talos II and Blackbird! Shame it took IBM sponsorship for you to do it, but it's great to see all the same. I love the idea of this architecture and want to see open hardware and alternatives to Intel/AMD finally return to the marketplace. We used to have choices back in the good old days, when even Windows NT was available for a few different hardware platforms, including PowerPC.
Thanks IBM! Cool stuff they develop
Kudos for mentioning the Intel Management Engine vis-a-vis open source!
Linus' face as he randomly drops the cpu😂😂
Need more content like this! Found it super interesting and informative. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for covering this topic. I don’t think its importance has fully registered with most computer enthusiasts. But it will eventually. Power, RISC, and ARM architectures will change things dramatically over the next decade. Power9 and later iterations will live up to their names.
Expected something about RISC-V.
*_Mildly disappointed_*
Well, dlnt be, in contrast to risc V this is a high performance platform that you can buy right now (Raptor Systems).
It's really not a maket anyone is going for with risc V, and its mature (just not the desktop software for it quite)
@@Germanwtb You can turn the Raptor talos into a hackintosh. It just will run on a version of Mac OS X made for powerpc.
@@queenelizabethiis_corpse Aside from the fact that the last PowerPC version of macOS was 10.4 and is now horribly out of date, PowerPC is different to POWER (although very similar). The two aren't compatible with each other.
Is there going to be another video of think ibm 2019?
loved the outtake at the end
I look forward to more about the open source hardware
This is like one of the most important developments and general milestone things thats going on in the computer and tech world right now. And all Linus does is asking if he can play video games on it...
Linus you picked the wrong motherboard
You must check out the Soulja motherboard
Ibrahim Abu Eraq I was not expecting this 😂
SouljaBoard starting at $899
@@josuejared7747 was 1599.99
This reference isn't that old, but already feels dated.
Nah thats nothing, the SouljaBoardTellEms board is where its at
I guess IBM hasn’t been sitting on their hands since I last did my university coop work with them in Toronto Lab in the 90’s. It’s great to see them thinking outside of the box.
I want to see an update video a week or so into Linus's vacation to see how everyone's faring with whoever else in charge
I wonder when a new version of AmigaOS will come out for that...
Linus Goes on Vacation...... Comes back with Conference Footage.
Also, that solar flare thing.... Actually sounds like it could possibly cause an Apocalypse in this day&age.
At 00:58 when Linus says "let me explain that" reminds me quite a bit of Gary explains from android authority 😀😀
8:32 "Yeah (we knew you were gonna drop it)".
We need a RISC V open source motherboard :)
I legit thought this one was an update video about the RISC V
They are an assortment of them actually. Though since Risc-v is just an architecture and not even a core(not too mention that since it's modular as fuck, it's not even completly binary compatible with one another, however the same goes for x86, with it's still rising opcodes number), they are not interchangeable in any way. Not too mention that apart from sifive no one manufactures cpu/soc or boards(i mean they are c910 from alibaba but it is under comercial licence and to my knowledge it got no devboard so to speak of) that can be considered ready for desktop work in terms of perfomance and the one from sifive is kinda more on par with a rasberry pi, then conventional pc.
LibreBoot + that motherboard is literally my future now
They have coreboot at least.
The OpenPower boot architecture is
wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Hostboot
wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Skiboot
wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Skiroot
wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Petitboot
Similar in design philosophy to the www.linuxboot.org/ project in the x86 world -- load Linux and a simple userland in the firmware and use its drivers to boot the intended system and its GNU/Linux build. Hostboot and Skiboot (which are free software) seem to be a close equivalent to LibreBoot
Just looked up POWER10. Wow, it's nuts!
I often dont know what hes talking about, but i enjoy his excitement and the information he gives about the profession he loves.
HAHAHHAA of course Linus dropped something at the very end
Wow, I’ve never seen POWER7+ outside of the HPC/supercomputer space. Very cool!
Really cool to see Xonotic getting some exposure.
>"What if you bought a mac, but never used it?"
>When you a buy a mac. You're the one being used
Obvious joke is obvious
Joke or not, it's incredibly intellectually lazy.
@@themonroe654hd6 you sound salty
@@isaiahheyward1488 I don't really care, I'm just of the opinion that dunking on easy targets doesn't make you smart or edgy, it just makes you lazy.
@@themonroe654hd6 do you by any chance wear a fedora? Yikes
@@thanksskeletor4812 Got em good with that one.
wait so:
pcie 3.0 < pci 4.0 < openCAPI < NVlink ?
I think so lol
Thanks Linus, I hope you are enjoying your vacation. This was great, I didn't know we had open source hardware such as this. I am amazed that there is a quad threaded cpu. How does it stand up against Eypc or Rome in scientific benchmarks? Please get them to send you a system for demo you could do a shared video with Level1techs and Wendle he loves open source everything on linux.
I'm going to be purchasing one of those eventually
They have everything there...
But do they have RGB?
It's getting old mate, this joke is getting old. Don't take it personal
Yes so good
So ready for rgb to not be a fad anymore... The decade of rainbow computers needs to end... It's the computing equiv of a ricer...
nah you need the rgb module sold seperately
The board is open source, just build your own
Why do I already sense a Video with Linus and Alex where there is a costum made open source motherboard involved within the next 3 years?
I am actually sad that it was that short!
Linus please make more “Deep-Tech” Videos! 👌🏼
This stuff is so much more exciting than iphone reviews or a mouse review
It went from 5,590 to 7,760 in under a minute.
WOW
I'm a simple person I hear PowerPC and it makes me happy.
That solar flare event that he is referring to is the Carrington Event, if you wanted to know more about it.
It would be cool to see Linus take a tour of the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the great stuff they do there.