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HOW TO BRAKE in GO KARTING - TUTORIAL (KARTING TIPS)
In today's video we cover the technique behind braking in go karting. Braking can be challenging to master. However, the more you practice the better you will become at braking.
(Some of the onboard karting footage was recorded at Losail Go Karting Circuit which is located at the Qatar F1 track)
Background music credit:
• Ptr. - Genesis
Thanks for the tips man! I finally defeated my friends and drove a 36.734! (Yesterday I did a 37.924!) I really improved my racing line and braking points.. braking much deeper than before.
What track
@@Tom-102 Rainbow Road
@@Tom-102 Nordschleife
@@Tom-102Darude - Sandstorm
These tips are pretty good, but a very common mistake in rental karts is that people tend to brake too much. You really need to keep up the momentum in rental karts in order to be fast as they have very little power.
What this means is that you often only need to brake in order to get the kart turning as turning the kart will already scrub off enough speed. At an indoor karting track near me there are more than 20 corners but you only have to touch the brakes at 3 of them if you take the right lines.
Same as an outdoor track I was just at with pretty fast rental karts (80kph+) You never actually need to break if you're brave enough and know where the kart should be coming into each corner - letting off the accelerator is more than enough
With the 6.5bhp and 9bhp karts (no idea whether that's the standard for rental karts across Europe and/or the world) I never brake. I drift the kart with counter steer approaching the corner and drift with opposite wheel lock all the way through, which in my experience, gives me the best momentum out of the turn. I do pretty good lap times but not sure at all whether that's the correct technique since there is nobody to teach me :D
@@nikolamladenoff3516 Generally drifting is slower than only braking slightly. But it's fun, so you do you ;)
@@nikolamladenoff3516see here why often braking is advantageous to waive braking completely or coasting all around th-cam.com/video/0RyjX17BecE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DNH9RsgiVtKNidF7
@@nikolamladenoff3516 its definitely the fun way!! generally speaking with karts, having neutral steer (quick sharp turning input at beginning followed by continuing through the corner without having to have any steering input, or having the wheels point straight while turning, and not counter steering) is going to be the quickest way through a corner, the objective is to eliminate all steering as much as possible. so your idea of drifting is in the right direction, just dial it back aa bit so that instead of counter steering, you do a sharp initial steering input and return to and stay at center of steering for the majority of the corner
This really helped, I went karting at the Yas Marina Kartzone and beat my PB of 56.3 to a solid 53.3
The thing I've found is that since karts have no front brakes, you maintain a lot of front end grip even under braking. You can use this change in grip balance to your advantage to get the kart to rotate into tighter turns
How exactly do you do that?
@@chiragmaragal3390 the back will slide somewhat, so as long as you can maintain control of the kart by controlling your brake and wheel inputs, you can get the kart to rotate a little faster every corner. The problem is getting the feel for it, because if you slide too much you'll actually lose time instead.
@chiragmaragal3390
Usually you just lightly stab the brake as you turn and it almost pivots the kart towards the apex. I do this on some tracks in many corners that don't really require full on braking, especially if the kart is really tight and plowing to help it to turn.
Often, after the front tires warm up after the first 3 or 4 laps, I don't have to use the brake like that anymore.
Subscribed without hesitation.
Very concise and informative channel.
Keep up the good work.
The hardest part is trying to start braking correctly when you're closely following another car. That will make harder to see your reference marker and if the car if front of you has totally different braking style, you'll have problems trying to keep your own breaking point. In addition, the leading car can drive defensively and brake "too much" but use their car to block your overtake line.
Excellent and thorough explaination. This will be useful.
i think the hairpin example was actually too much braking applied which made the gokart drift thus loosing much more speed and overheating the tires. Best would be to break hard in a straight line, start releasing the break when turning the wheel in and then releasing the break pedal around the apex to be able to accelerate flat out from apex on.
Technique shown in the video will work only on extremely tight and narrow corners where you have to rotate the gokart ASAP and start accelerating.
Overall though very useful video - one of the major points is that knowing the track will help one gain the breaking advantage
Excellent breakdown!! Thanks 🙌🙌
remember to adjust your braking technique to how much power your kart makes. low power carts will be faster with softer braking and wider turns - by starting on the outside of a turn, touching the apex, and ending up on the outside again. you want to carry as much cornering speed as possible because you can't accelerate as fast. as for high power carts, you can take a more V shaped line where you brake hard very late, oversteer to get your kart pointed at the exit, then tearing off again.
Really Helpful 🙏 Thank you 😉
watched a couple vids from you, applied cornering guide into my driving, gained 2 secs on the third lap. from 37.868 to 35.675, next time i’m going to practice braking
Thanks for the video, very informative
Thank you for sharing!!!
I don't know how much i learn from these videos other than confirmation that I'm doing the right things and maybe a few small refinements that i can try out.
They should be very helpful to newbs though.
I would say that you should add that most tracks only have 2 or 3 corners that actually require baking at all. At least that is my experience at over a dozen tracks nationwide (US) over the last 2 years.
So informative
Thanks a lot
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This was extremely useful, Thanks
Amazing video bro helped me out a lot keep doin what u doin 🤞🏾💯
Thanks for your feedback and support!
Hello. Thanks for all the tips. I subscribed to your channel. When you hit the brake pedal, do you turn immediately or do you wait a little bit before turning. I mean is it hard brake + steering or only hard brake and then steering ?
To improve your breaking without video taping your race or having data to help a good way is too figure out what a full break will do at full speed and count how long it takes to stop and then try and use that as a reference for what the kart can do and then improve each corner until you are putting it on poll. Knowing what the kart can and can’t do will improve everything
Thanks for the tips! Can you describe how to overtake someone with similar pace on an indoor (narrow) track?
Good idea! In the meantime you can watch the overtaking video published ealier which consists of some indoor overtakes too 👍 th-cam.com/video/BvIlcRS9-x8/w-d-xo.html
Sometimes the only way is to force him/her into a driving-mistake. Psycholigical driving, by changing your line and breaking points every single lap and Corner.
@@olivernowaczyk5273 The word is BRAKING ...NOT Breaking.
@@nearlyretired7005 Yes, sorry for that.
Just bump him slightly from behind so that they know you're there and keep the pressure on and they will eventually make a mistake. Or just shove him out of the way lol
Thank you for great explanation but could you please explain how to choose the reference point ? Or it is all about your speed and kart feelings?
When driving rental karts, ie slower 4 strokes, there are some corners where you may not even want to brake at all, and instead just get off the gas and let the kart coast in, keeping the momentum up through the corner.
i love the work that you do and put in videos. i learn so much things from this that im sure i will do better next time i will go karting. Thanks very much for those videos. i Subscribed right when i saw your channel and content you do. I have one question: is drifting around corners actually making me faster? i want to have best time possible to beat my last record.
Thank you for your feedback! Drifting tends to slow you down. When you drift the go kart you are losing momentum through the corner. It takes a lot of time to build up the speed again. Try and drive smoothly and remember the concept 'Slow in Fast out'.
Thank you for your response. This will help me a lot when i will try to get best lap time. Thank you!!!
whyyyy are these so 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Very nice video man! Great job
Thank you!
Explained very well!
Thank you!
In the first hairpin turn shown in this video, it appears he is braking and turning into the right hairpin at the same time. You can also see this results in the rear end rotating and the driver applying opposite steering lock.
I always thought hard braking is best done in a straight line just before turning in towards the apex and the brake pedal is released gradually once steering wheel is turned towards apex
he's threshold braking, he's using the bit of spare grip remaining in the front tyres as he lifts slowly off the brakes to turn at the same time. A little bit of rear slip and mild oversteer is ideal in this scenario as it allows the vehicle to rotate more aggressively as it enters tthe corner
You can carry the brakes into the corner. In a normal car this will decelerate the car meaning you can brake later but will induce understeer. In a kart there’s only rear brakes which means it’s easier to spin by trail braking into the corner but you can carry a higher entry speed and use the brakes to rotate the kart
@@Shadow1986 thanks for the explanation. It's nice to see drivers helping each other out on this channel.
Starting at 5:27, man you guys really abused those track limits and curb lmao! I'm sure that's the right line but it was so funny to see that you guys basically left the track altogether at those moments haha.
Awesome video! I subscribed to your Channel
Very nice tips and ideas but do you just avoid the track limits?
i look at this and listen to this and it is actually the exact same in simracing
Hey, what about how much of steering wheel you should apply when trail braking? It's rather quite easy to spin gokart when turning in + braking
Nice tips
I never really watched a tutorial about kartin, just did it and did it like i thought would be good.. Since i am very heavy(over 220pouds) i usually break really hard, and to my vision at the latest point possible.. in later rounds when i feel more comfortable i tryd to push a few inches further every time, but then i miss the turn or lock the wheels.. mostly loose time after a break since the cart takes ages to accelerate after the turn, and often a lot of drivers then run away from me. At my area we got many 180° corners which makes it hard for me to gain speed. at least thats what i think.
Can you explain more on the difference between locking up and firmly hitting the brakes?
how to go through fast, tight & twisty corner sections (one immediately after another)? full flat-out? or small release from gas pedal at each apex?
When hard braking can you keep your foot slightly pressing the accelerator? Or should it be completely off?
I found when hard braking the kart takes too much time to accelerate again? Is that just me? Is it better to brake slightly so you don't lose too much speed?
Do you brake while turning or only in a straight line before corner entry?
So do you only brake whilst the wheels are straight or do you turn in as you lift off, but when - slightly off of whilst still braking hard? thanks.
Nice video! You gained a karting fellow sub :)
Really good video! Can you do something for us heavier drivers at 100kg +?
Go on a diet
You have a very nice voice and such a nice accent.
Lando norris once said that for best breaking u should always have some throttle applied so your breaks dont lock up, thus carrying even more speed but holding that grip and instant response in power once u let go of the gas.
In rental go karts you can’t press the throttle and brake at the same time, it will just deactivate the throttle when you press the brake
Can we still do trail braking in karting or is it too slow to release?
excellent. i'm guilty of not doing this, even ... while i know this is the proper way. the improper way i do it... is never ever let off the throttle. i press the brakes while still on full throttle. and i do use the brake as an on/off switch. once finished slowing down the cart i drop off the brake. as thats the fastest way to release it. and since i was all the way on full throttle, i have zero delay of accelerating.
the problem with this is... excessive wear. both on brakes, clutch, tyre, drive chain. but it yields better lap times... 1 corner, 1 time brake is applied. and for that 1 time its full on.
If the breaks works on the rear wheels, should I lean my body back to increase the weight in the rear while breaking?
how do I edit the videos (animations)? Any recommended tools?
This might be a part 2 of this video, but in my experience the best way to find time is actually on getting on the throttle sooner. If late braking causes you to wait to press the throttle then you will loose time.
How can i apply DRS?
when you state: "hard braking but minimizing the time you have your foot in the brake pedal but also releasing the brake smoothly and preventing rear lock up". do you mean 100% of brake pressure for 1sec without locking up the rear and gently releasing the brake?
When is the right time to start turning into the corner?
Karts need trail braking ?
can you make a video on how to break with the front tires? I know that some guys master it perfectly so they are in advantage of normal breaking. they use the wheel to aggressively turn the wheels for breaking?
Yes,front tyres scrubbing techique used often
In the video you can see he doing similar thing for the first braking exemple but too much brake and the rear went loose or carried a bit too much speed due to wide entry and loose a bit the rear.(common mistake of lighters pilots)
you need to manage your throttle back up again as soon as you get off the brakes ( way before that apex ). Eventually, use it gently, but it gets those rev climb up for a better exit. Needs a bit of practice, and make sure you don't input too much throttle and listen to your tires.
For me it's not about winning but rather I want to teach the knowledge and empower people
How to use leaning to your advantage
so, this is a kind of trail braking?
"What Palmer is doing, he cut the chicane(s)" 5:31
"And Fernando, Palmer has a 5 second penalty"
@@younghollywood3115 "What joke the five secons..."
"The five seconds is a joke for what he just did"
@@younghollywood3115 "¿were is palmer?
@@victory9011 "Err Fernando, Palmer has retired"
@@younghollywood3115
"¡Karma!"
"¡Karma!"
Terence dove ex world karting champion would disagree. He says you want to have the wheels screeching, that’s late breaking, you just have to correct the steering accordingly.
Thanks, are there some corners that just lifting off the throttle is quicker than braking?
definetly especially if the karts are slower. therefore you don't need to slowdown as much to make the turn
@@Is300cam thanks for the input. I suppose I wondered the difference say lifting off only for the turn, or keeping your foot flat for longer, then brake to scrub speed before turning in?
@@stevesas632 with braking around a turn you don’t necessarily need to you are essentially braking late. Which means you will be exiting the turn with less speed than just letting off. I’m not a pro kart driver or anything but that’s just my theory. I play a decent amount of sim games
@@Is300cam thanks for the info. It's great to see ppl helping each other on this channel.
Any tips for avoiding understeer on a very wet slippery track? Struggling to get the turn in even at very slow speed. Maybe I should intentionally lock the rear into hairpins to get the rotation then immediately get on the power to drag myself out?
Stay away from the dry line. Go wider on entry.
As you brake, turn full lock into the corner, the kart will understeer, probably not even turning at all if you are going fast enough. Aim to go around the outside edge of the corner in the wet. Combined with the fronts scrubbing off speed and the fact you are missing the inside kerb, you may even be able to brake later. Hold the lock. Eventually, the kart will slow and weight will transfer off of the inside rear and onto the outside front. At this point, the kart should start to rotate into the corner. Be ready to catch the steering back to a normal angle as it does so. Carry on round the corner. You will get really good traction off of the corner because the steering angle is almost straight on exit compared to the dry line. Don't be afraid to use full lock if the kart is understeering. My advice is always be firm with the steering but gentle on the pedals because the steering generates grip at the front at turn in, whereas the pedals do the opposite at the back.
5:39 trek limited?
I usually brake hard, locking a bit the rear wheels but not spinning, and then realeasing the brake pedal smoothly. I think it's the fastest way to slow down the go kart, isn't it?
That is one of the fastest ways to brake, just like explained in the video 👍
how to set a reference point?
How about indor gokarts where it takes them a long time to pick up power after you take your foot off accelerator? Isn't it better to keep you foot barried into accelerator at all times and just brake ? I am new to gokarts and that is like the main difference I see to race cars. Gas reaction is super slow.
If you keep your foot on the accelerator while braking it can break the gokart
No,you will burn out the brakes.
In all my years of rental karts at tracks, I only hit the break when I'm coming back into the station at the end of the race. If your good at butterflying your gas and drifting a kart, you don't need the breaks.
Late apex or regular apex?
Why let go of the brake slowly? What's a consequence of just letting go of it suddenly?
can you do a video of how to get started in karting whilst you're 15
Better off coasting through most corners in these slow karts. Braking at all will load weight to the front wheels and take weight off the rear, which is probably why youre sliding in every demonstration and if the rear is sliding then you arent accelerating. If you coast through these turns you can have better weight distribution and take the corner faster. Everything I've seen in this video the kart should be able to do without any break at all. Just moderate release of the throttle or change up your racing line.
I just picture the track ahead of me with the arrows that show you when to accelerate and brake like on Codemasters F1 games and it actually works
Don’t speak about minima speed on corner. Its the key to perform in go kart. All the skills you put in application, its to keep minima speed by turn, it drive your breaking style, your breaking point and the line to take too
Is it normal to be slower at first when improving technique? After starting to use reference points and late apexes, my time is slightly slower. The kart feels much better than my previous way of overshooting each corner.
At first your timing may be slower because you are trying a new technique. However, the key is to practice this technique over a long period of time. Each time you race, attempt to brake later and later into the corner.
This way you will gain more confidence when braking. When you become more confident under braking, you can really find the limit of late braking which will ultimately help you improve your lap time.
@@kartingtips Hey man, I've heard that you should barely be using brakes in karting so that you don't slow the revs down a lot and kill the engine, making it slower for you to reach top speeds on the straights. And I've also heard that when you do need to use the brake, just give it a hard tap and get off it immediately. This contradicts the tips you give in this video of coming off the brake slowly. What are your thoughts on this?
@@kartingtips Thanks for the advice.
@@DeputyiC I agree that you should spend as less time possible on the brake pedal. Regarding coming off of the brakes, the point I was trying to make in the video, was that you should avoid aggressively coming off brake pedal. If you are too aggressive coming off of the brake pedal it can unsettle the kart.
@@DeputyiC Many indoor tracks require little or no braking with the common types of rental karts. Instead of braking you can often just lift and use excess yaw entering the corner to scrub speed. A quick tap of the brake can be used to both reduce speed and help rotate the kart. Tracks with higher speeds - including all of the outdoors tracks I have driven - will usually require proper braking at one or more points on the track.
Simple examples:
Short straight into a decreasing radius turn? Scrub it.
Medium straight into an increasing radius turn? Tap and go.
Long straight into a hairpin? Use the brake.
Personally, I tend to rely on using yaw to scrub speed too much.... There have been numerous times when I found people gaining time by braking at places I didn't think it was useful. We may have the same exit speed, but they went a little deeper in and took a slightly shorter line to get there.
The transmission type and condition can also play a role in what is fast - you can have widely variable transmission operation in a fleet of identical rental karts. Another factor is that many rental karts have a system for retarding the engine when the brake and gas are pressed concurrently, and the sensitivity or operation of that system will also vary widely. Often the kart just won't let you make the transition from brake to throttle as fast as you need, so you make compromises.
If you step up to TAG, shifters, or cars you will certainly need to be braking effectively.
2:14
Does this also apply for really high speed corners?
if its a quite wide and ,as you said, high speed then there may be no need to brake at all, you could even keep abit of throttle aslong as you can maintain the racing line ofc
I love drifting through corners and I even go fast like bruh
Just watching these videos to defeat my brother 😬😂 thx for these tips
odd question but is this at Bahrain go kart?
This is the 2019 - 2021 Lusail Go Karting Track in Qatar
@@kartingtips oh ok, it was just the lights that got me
Whats the Intro Sound?
Here you go!
th-cam.com/video/2P9lhkAWrIw/w-d-xo.html
your meant to break on the corners ?
How far away from the turn should we set our braking point? like 30m or smth?
Debends on how much speed you have coming to the and how tight the corner is. Trial and error is the only real method of finding the breaking point.
First just pick a point to break and try it.
If you over shoot the corner and aren't able to turn quickly enough for the corner, pick a new breaking point that's earlier than the last one.
If you lose too much speed before the turning point and have to accelerate before the apex to maintain speed, pick a breaking point that comes later than the last one.
Then just repeat this until your breaking point feels perfect.
Do you know how to 'flick' brake and shorten the braking distance. All the great kart drivers do this: TF; Mike Wilson; etc. The idea is to flick the kart sideways on the brake. The kart slows as much because it is travelling sideways. The benefits are two-fold: you shorten the braking distance AND set-up the kart for the corner and are able to get on the power early. It takes a bit of practice.
Can someone explain how do they move so little the wheel in corners? I could never do it
Check out this video: th-cam.com/users/shorts4XCxJziJ_Vc
Just like I learnt playing Gran Turismo on PlayStation.
Where is this circuit ? Any website ?
Qatar
Here in South Africa we have many tracks that use the Sodi RT8 karts which are on/off switches on brakes and accelerator 🙃 so stupid
if you talk about no throttle when braking.
it's a good thing to prevent 1:people burning cluchs 2:peoples overheating brakes.
brake and acelerate top
It could also save or break your bones
EXTREME ULTRA SUPER LATE BRAKING!
Seething at the 5:26 track limits violations
DUH!!!!!
Summary of this video about braking: Slow kart down, take corner, accelerate kart.....
meanwhile I don't even need to brake at all cuz my kart tops out at 30kmh and has sufficient grip with full steering lock and throttle... friggin government regulation
Anyways good tips :)
Last week I did 39,63 seconds. Yesterday I got 36.05.
Congrats! That is significant.
IAM the spin master
Today i did a 39.759
This guy: * Explain the importance of breaking *
Me: * Proceeds to Tokyo drift full gaz in every corner *
how am i supposed to no when the fuck i brake i ain’t got no white line