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Contacted Svbony and after several texts they suggested getting sv188p dialectic diagonal. I had the sv221 but they suggested the sv188p was preferred. I bought it, tried it, and was able to focus the tele. No flattened. No extensions. Thx for your respond!
Well done. It's the law of diminishing returns. Extra $500 gets you a lot of return compared to the extra $1k, but if you're going for perfection it's worth it.
I love my Svbony! It's been a great first refractor for me. I use the reducer/flattener and the Svbony guide scope and 120mini guide camera. Hoping to get a new main camera soon, mine melted in a house fire. Thanks for all the videos, you were one of the people that got me into this fantastic obsession.
What a great honest comparison of three different price ranges of scopes. I have the svbony 102ed, and it's so hard to break through this "it's cheap so it's bad" mentality with people. I'll be linking your video all over the place, thanks for doing such a great job.
But let’s be honest. That Askar is badass!! Why wouldn’t someone want to upgrade to something that lets us see things we never get to see in better detail! Just gotta save is all of that is what you would be truley happy with
@@jackkenny4194that’s such a stupid outlook. By that logic, don’t bother buying any of these scopes, as the James Webb can see things in detail like you’ve never seen before! Just save up a few billion and get nasa to custom make one for you.
Hi, I started AP last year and have 3 scopes now and still use my ST80 to this day. A few notes about the ST-80: 1. My dew shield gets off of mine, but i think i have the older model 2. To reduce gradients, a good and easy tactic is to color the side of your lens with a black permanent marker. 3. I needed to add an extension to my camera to be able to get proper focus. 4. it's 100$ frikin dolla 5. I have been able to produce nice images, most problems can be treated in editing.
Now that SVBONY has released their SV550 APO triplet for around $800 it would be a great comparison to add to this. At half price of the Askar, the new SVBONY triplet seems a great value.
Great review. I used to have a 12" Dobsonian and a small refractor for my children when they were young 25 years ago. I'm thinking of getting a hobby scope again and I think I'd like the option of dabbling in astrophotography. This has been a great help in narrowing in on what would be appropriate for me. Thanks again.
Great video That svbony 503 80ed was my first refractor and it exceeded all my expectations. With the field flattener it really is an awesome imaging scope for the price range.
Thank you, you made me decide. I am gonna get Askar for my daughter as her first telescope. We will go out of the city, set it up, and take many beautiful pictures!
Very good review. Drawing analogies to conventional camera optics: 1. Two elements corrects chromatic aberration (color fringing) for two out of three colors to be “achromatic” but adds no correction for coma (triangle effect near the edges) or field flattening. The SVbony does an amazing job of bringing the third color into correction. 2. Add a third element, and you add correction for flatness of field. With the “field flattener” the SVbony becomes in effect a three-element lens. 3. Four elements gets you spherical aberration correction, a fully-corrected achromatic or something approaching apochromat with ED glass, depending on who is in charge of the definition. Limiting maximum aperture and keeping focal length in the normal-to-long range for the format minimized spherical aberration and field flatness issues for the simpler camera lenses back in the day. Seems like Orion did a pretty good job with the test scope considering the wide aperture. Better for direct viewing with a decent eyepiece than photography, clearly.
@@NebulaPhotos for 1600 you can have a Nikon p1000. This telescopes are garbage in comparison with that camera. Check how the stars look with that super camera. Little by little people will figure out that naza is a pack of liars.
Hi Nico, your content just gets better and better. This really does make it clear what you are getting for your money and just how much of an improvement you get from ED glass compared to an Achromatic telescope. Looks like people will get great results from that Svbony without needing to break the bank. I honestly think this is a massive service to the community and in hindsight its a really simple idea, just show what each telescope does with the same target. I recently tried to do mono imaging on a skywatcher startravel telescope, rebadged orion so same scope, and I could just not get rid of halo's on blue filters so sort of solved the question of "Can mono imaging cure the deficiencies of acrhomats?" with a resounding no, even using narrow band OIII filters couldn't cure the blue issue. Would be nice to see what the Svbony could do in mono imaging too does that bring it up to the level of the Ascar? Welldone!
Awesome video Nico. I have the SvBony 80ed and I am totally pleased with it, even though it is only a doublet. I have a crop sensor camera, so it never disappoints for the price range.
I spent $400 on a telescope Didn't realize I would want $1000 of lenses and filters lol, but it was a good time. I remember seeing the Andromeda galaxy for the first time. This was before you could hook up a laptop to it (I had find it all manually). Knowing how far away it was and being in the middle of some field 1 hour south of town on a brisk late fall night. I got SO weirded out. It just looked like a smudgy finger print, but dang. so cool. Best telescope night ever.
As with all things size and quality matter.... In this comparison all 3 have same 80mm diameter. Engineering, material, quality of components all make a big difference. You explained this technical topic is understandable terms and had good examples. I have been looking around for a suitable telescope and this video was helpful.
Fantastic comparison review Nico! Would have liked to see a triplet like Astrotech, Skywatcher or Explorer scientific around $900 price point included. The SVBONY from Hong Kong is an emerging giant killer in this highly competitive amateur astro area. All their accessories also are very good from a price to performance ratio. SVBONY and ZWO products make a wonderful starter kit with a good GEQ mount thrown in. HEQ5 is my preference.
Compliments ! Your presentation is very informative and gives me the idea about the quality-span of the different refractors - thank you for sharing this! All the best & greetings from Switzerland & CS
The # of ED glass DIRECTLY relates to the costs. The field flattener is essentially "built in" to the triplet so... if you have less $'s just buy a good doublet and then add the field flattener. Essentially, you get "what you pay for". Been an AP guy for a while now. My SW 100ED was $900 when I bought it but now goes for around $1,300 so it slots between your top 2. I picked up the SW .80 flattener, ASair Pro, 2 ZWO cameras and use an HEQ5 mount. Just found your channel and have now SUBSCRIBED
You can see the brighter galaxies like the galaxies in the Messier catalog with any of these. If you want to photograph them, these would work fine. If you want to view them at the eyepiece, I'd suggest a dobsonian telescope, bigger the better.
100% agree about not skimping on the mount! Every time I see people asking this I say the same thing to them, that you can have the best telescope, camera, and everything else in the world, but with a crap mount you will still get crap images. As well as the fact that I'd much rather have two telescopes and one mount, than have two mounts and only one telescope. In fact that's why I'm here now, I'm thinking about about getting a better scope, because I spent most of my budget on a HEQ5 last year and cheaped out on the scope, and I don't regret it one bit.
A really good video, not glossing over any of the details of each scope, including the different thread options, available flattener/reducers, and great image comparisons to show what each scope is capable of.
I really like that Askar scope... a bit slow natively at f/7.5... but that's pretty much my only gripe with it. Quadruplet design... good rings / bars with plenty of mounting points... beefy focuser... brings a lot to the table for a $1750 price tag that _includes_ the 0.76 reducer. I own a GT81 and it requires a flattener of some sort. WO sells the 6AIII which is a combined reducer/flattener. They do not sell a non-reducing flattener, so you'd have to get something like the Stellarvue if you wanted to run the GT81 at its native focal length. I like the simplicity of being able to use the Askar scope without any additional components or having to worry about whether you got the spacing right. If I were looking for an imaging scope in the 80mm aperture range, the Askar would be pretty high on my list.
Tanks Nico for your informative vid and tutorials. I just wish a dollar is a dollar regardless of where you are in the world. Here in Australia the ASKAR 80 PHQ sells for Au$2599 without any extras. I have yet to buy any gear but doing a lot of research before jumping into a new hobby. Cheers and keep up the good worl.
I'm happy I came across your channel I want to get a Telescope and your channel has just opened my eyes to everything involved. I definitely will getting the better-quality scope Thanks!!
Rotation is essential I'd say even just for observational astronomy if balancing an issue though length weight dependant. Richfields can be small portable and a bargain
This was an awesome, educational video. I certainly understand this comment will be cringy... but as a complete novice.. I was like " but I like the cool blue and purple colors"...
I've wanted one of these since high school and know nothing about them. I'm about to pull the trigger so thank you for this video, I really needed this info. I just wanted to know why I was spending all the extra money and for me I have no other way to learn other than YT
awesome! that was a really helpful and interesting video! thanks for sharing. I especially enjoyed the pictures compared (where you explained the details of the same frame used).
We are at a golden age to where you can buy a nice refractor for under a grand, only caveat is quality assurance may be off so be sure to purchase from a reputable dealer so you can return if you get a lemon. Not all scopes come out the same in mass production, two otherwise identical scopes may perform differently…. Higher priced scopes normally weed these out in the QA process while lower end ones may slip through. Try to educate yourself on basic star test so you can immediately tell the difference
Fantastic video Nico. I'm currently testing the PHQ80 for Sharpstar and completely agree with everything you have said. I've been using it with the 2600mm which is an APS-C camera and the stars in the corners are absolutely fantastic. That SvBony seemed to produce some great results as well. Excellent video as always.
And from where do we buy such a telescope? I saw the Best Buy website that does not have telescopes as good as the one you explain about in the video But I don't know where we can get a good telescope and get close to long distances, as shown in this video?😥
Agena Astro and High Point Scientific are the main US Online Retailers. But the Svbony scopes also sell on Amazon and eBay. Check the description for links.
Excellent explanation. Very clear. I had to stop the video a couple of times because I though it was my cat calling me, at third time I realized it was from the video.
This video was perfect for where I'm at. I know very little about telescopes but I've been on the hunt for an amateur setup & have been interested in how ball-park price range translates into visual quality. I know there's variables within each bracket but i feel this has been a sound general unpacking.
Sir. Excellent video. Outstanding presentation and breakdown details about the scopes. Subbed and Voted. With that being said and on a personal note, I highly recommend you do something with your hair. I know it is the thing these days, but it is not working for you at all. Mid length or semi-close cut. Add some volume with styling. Maybe the swept back high top look. Total look changer. Ladies will like it even if it is superficial.
Probably my first time here. I'm interested but not that much: I looked at the video for roughly 20 seconds at the start, and about 3 minutes at the end, for the comparison. Still, this video is valuable as hell. Thumb up.
I just bought an SVBONY SV503 Telescope, 70ED F6 Extra Low Dispersion Refractor OTA and the associated SVBONY SV193 Focal Reducer and Field Flattener from Amazon. Will arrive this coming Thursday. It will be replacing my GSkyer short tube 80. Looked at the 80mm, but it was too heavy and the focal length was too long. I wouldn't be able to photograph everything I wanted with my ZWO ASI183 camera. Appreciate your videos. Informative.
Thanks Nico! love the content! took my first photo with my telephone a few months back and i got instantly hooked on astrophotography. This was a great breakdown! I was thinking of getting the Orion 80mm as a cheap starter scope but i think ill spend a bit more for the SvBony scope!
@@OwnittEdits You can get Canon 50mm f1.8 or f1.4 prime and be good optically for milky way and wider shots. You can also use a tracker on dslr+lens combo too :)
Awesome Review Nico,The Evoguide50Ed Is The Reason I Chose It,For The Glass,and For Solo Widefield..But Been Looking At That Orion 80..I See It For $199 Rings and 8x40 Finder,90* Diagonal And 2 Sirius Plossl EP,I Forget The Mm,And Already Have Everything I Need To Observe Or Image,And Thank You For Showing Me How To Finally Use My Eqm35Pro😂🤷🏼♀️Clear Skies Nico,and God Bless🙏🏻❤️🌏✨🔭…..Update….Santa Brought Me The Evostar80ed..Paired With My Evoguide,and My Eqm35Pro,Always Been A Big SW Fan,And Now Have What Is A Dream Deep Space Set Up For Me😇Havent Seen The Damn Sky In 4 Months🤨
Great presentation Nico, I have the Rother Valley Optics Horizon 80ED doublet Refractor scope which seems very similar to the SVBONY. I find it a very respectable telescope for my needs. Reasonably priced and with field flatteners and reducers.
@@garybeaumont543 Hi Gary, Rother Valley Optics have the finest showroom around. Its a 100 mile round trip for me and Trust me, it is well worth the visit. There's scopes and accessories that will make you feel like a kid in a sweet shop. Great staff, very knowledgeable and fantastic prices.
For sure a beginner who wants a good telescope but doesn’t want to get something that will be over my head or too complicated, it’s complicated enough just doing research on what to buy. Still very confused. Subbed and liked. Thank you.
Reducer plus a flattener plus a good mount plus quality eyepieces, good focuser and filters makes it a$$$ game and then your camera photography gear, add in finderscope, guider, software can do a lot to images on a budget you know
Very interesting. I already learned it’s absolutely not worth to me, spending way more than the €160. I just want to see the center for live object viewing. Mainly planets.
This is crazy, I was taking about buying a telescope two days ago the TH-cam started to forward me those kind of videos from yesterday 😂 i never watch anything like related to this area before
Thank you so much for your Videos. Im looking since 2 Weeks for a first investment for astrophotography for beginners. You videos helped me so much. :)
You should know as well as I do that SEEING and local conditions play a bigger part in the overall result than the difference between an FPL53 doublet or a FK61 triplet lens configuration. I learnt this very quickly. That's why I bought an Altair/Astro Tec 115mm with FK61. Still a triplet but with slightly less expensive glass as my seeing is average. A waste of money to buy an expensive triplet if you r seeing is average or below.
Nice video …. One thing left in between … the triplet :) I feel there would be more detail seen with ED and APO when zoomed in more on the target itself like a nebula which then shows more delta between the telescopes with higher integration times
I am torn between the Svony 503 and 550 80mm now. I can get a flattener/reducer for the 503, I don't have to pay extra for the camera rotator, it's $300 less, but the 550 is a triplet! Right now Amazon's page for the 503 says there's a new version of the 503, and it links to the 550. Are they discontinuing it? It's $389 USD right now, and the 550 is $699. I think I know what I must do... They used to say money doesn't grow on trees.
IF I had it to do over - simpler issues than this video - started with a ' department store (useless, primarily because of the tripod ) 3 inch, then a 4.5 inch Newton which was useable, spotting scope was not, tripod still shaken. then I finally got an 8 in. Dobsonian, great, steady base, 2 inch focuser, 50 mm spotting scope. problem, it's too big for me ( I'm 73 ) to easily move in/ out. IF I could start over, it'd be a 6 in Dob. with computer control of some sort.
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It's not just your channel, every channel i comment on lately has them lol
@@yesterdayschunda1760 lol, was a joke?
@@borghorsa1902 Nope the bots are real he isn't joking, They are linking to malware
Luckily it happened to me on another general photography channel recently so I was sensitised to it, thanks for the pinned post though, really helpful
I have come across them already, too. Bunch of bottom feeders. what is BackFocus and how would know if and how to account for it?
Unless you need the results to win a contest, the results of the SV503 for $600 is the best bang for the money hands down.
Now the 80mm Svbony is just 400$
I'm the happy owner of the best bang for the buck :-)
Contacted Svbony and after several texts they suggested getting sv188p dialectic diagonal. I had the sv221 but they suggested the sv188p was preferred. I bought it, tried it, and was able to focus the tele. No flattened. No extensions.
Thx for your respond!
Any of these for watching the planets
Well done. It's the law of diminishing returns. Extra $500 gets you a lot of return compared to the extra $1k, but if you're going for perfection it's worth it.
I love my Svbony! It's been a great first refractor for me. I use the reducer/flattener and the Svbony guide scope and 120mini guide camera. Hoping to get a new main camera soon, mine melted in a house fire. Thanks for all the videos, you were one of the people that got me into this fantastic obsession.
For sure!
Unless you need the results to win a contest, the results of the SV503 for $600 is the best bang for the money hands down.
What a great honest comparison of three different price ranges of scopes. I have the svbony 102ed, and it's so hard to break through this "it's cheap so it's bad" mentality with people. I'll be linking your video all over the place, thanks for doing such a great job.
But let’s be honest. That Askar is badass!! Why wouldn’t someone want to upgrade to something that lets us see things we never get to see in better detail! Just gotta save is all of that is what you would be truley happy with
А если бы у вас был Orion то никто ничего бы не заметил? ))
@@jackkenny4194that’s such a stupid outlook. By that logic, don’t bother buying any of these scopes, as the James Webb can see things in detail like you’ve never seen before! Just save up a few billion and get nasa to custom make one for you.
I don't even own, nor have plans to buy a telescope. And I watched your complete video. Thumbs up for such an informative, excellent quality review!
Hi, I started AP last year and have 3 scopes now and still use my ST80 to this day.
A few notes about the ST-80:
1. My dew shield gets off of mine, but i think i have the older model
2. To reduce gradients, a good and easy tactic is to color the side of your lens with a black permanent marker.
3. I needed to add an extension to my camera to be able to get proper focus.
4. it's 100$ frikin dolla
5. I have been able to produce nice images, most problems can be treated in editing.
Great tips! Thanks
Now that SVBONY has released their SV550 APO triplet for around $800 it would be a great comparison to add to this. At half price of the Askar, the new SVBONY triplet seems a great value.
Great review. I used to have a 12" Dobsonian and a small refractor for my children when they were young 25 years ago. I'm thinking of getting a hobby scope again and I think I'd like the option of dabbling in astrophotography. This has been a great help in narrowing in on what would be appropriate for me. Thanks again.
Great video
That svbony 503 80ed was my first refractor and it exceeded all my expectations. With the field flattener it really is an awesome imaging scope for the price range.
Josh, which eyepieces are you using?
Thank you, you made me decide. I am gonna get Askar for my daughter as her first telescope. We will go out of the city, set it up, and take many beautiful pictures!
Was just looking at the SVBONY! Thank you so much for comparing these 3 so I know exactly what I'm getting
I feel like the Svbony made one heck of a showing here.
Very good review. Drawing analogies to conventional camera optics:
1. Two elements corrects chromatic aberration (color fringing) for two out of three colors to be “achromatic” but adds no correction for coma (triangle effect near the edges) or field flattening. The SVbony does an amazing job of bringing the third color into correction.
2. Add a third element, and you add correction for flatness of field. With the “field flattener” the SVbony becomes in effect a three-element lens.
3. Four elements gets you spherical aberration correction, a fully-corrected achromatic or something approaching apochromat with ED glass, depending on who is in charge of the definition.
Limiting maximum aperture and keeping focal length in the normal-to-long range for the format minimized spherical aberration and field flatness issues for the simpler camera lenses back in the day. Seems like Orion did a pretty good job with the test scope considering the wide aperture. Better for direct viewing with a decent eyepiece than photography, clearly.
Thank you for this eye opening comparison. For an APS-C shooter the Svbony seems to offer very good results.
Awesome job Nico! - I love videos like this, huge respect for the amount of work to do it right too my friend, awesome job! 🙂Clear skies!
Thanks Luke! Yes, I still don't quite have my testing protocols to where I'd like, but I try my best, and hopefully get better with each video.
@@NebulaPhotos for 1600 you can have a Nikon p1000. This telescopes are garbage in comparison with that camera. Check how the stars look with that super camera. Little by little people will figure out that naza is a pack of liars.
@@stolearovigor281 what is NAZA?
@@kevinashley478 He meant NASA
Thanks for going out on a limb of the galaxy and boldly showing what no one has shown before.
Hi Nico, your content just gets better and better. This really does make it clear what you are getting for your money and just how much of an improvement you get from ED glass compared to an Achromatic telescope. Looks like people will get great results from that Svbony without needing to break the bank.
I honestly think this is a massive service to the community and in hindsight its a really simple idea, just show what each telescope does with the same target.
I recently tried to do mono imaging on a skywatcher startravel telescope, rebadged orion so same scope, and I could just not get rid of halo's on blue filters so sort of solved the question of "Can mono imaging cure the deficiencies of acrhomats?" with a resounding no, even using narrow band OIII filters couldn't cure the blue issue. Would be nice to see what the Svbony could do in mono imaging too does that bring it up to the level of the Ascar?
Welldone!
Awesome video Nico. I have the SvBony 80ed and I am totally pleased with it, even though it is only a doublet. I have a crop sensor camera, so it never disappoints for the price range.
Thinking of going the same route. SVBONY has really made a name for themselves in astronomy!
I spent $400 on a telescope Didn't realize I would want $1000 of lenses and filters lol, but it was a good time. I remember seeing the Andromeda galaxy for the first time. This was before you could hook up a laptop to it (I had find it all manually). Knowing how far away it was and being in the middle of some field 1 hour south of town on a brisk late fall night. I got SO weirded out. It just looked like a smudgy finger print, but dang. so cool. Best telescope night ever.
As with all things size and quality matter.... In this comparison all 3 have same 80mm diameter. Engineering, material, quality of components all make a big difference. You explained this technical topic is understandable terms and had good examples. I have been looking around for a suitable telescope and this video was helpful.
Your videos are informative, detailed, and "full of learning". You have a wonderful astrophotography channel and your work is greatly appreciated!
Fantastic comparison review Nico! Would have liked to see a triplet like Astrotech, Skywatcher or Explorer scientific around $900 price point included. The SVBONY from Hong Kong is an emerging giant killer in this highly competitive amateur astro area. All their accessories also are very good from a price to performance ratio. SVBONY and ZWO products make a wonderful starter kit with a good GEQ mount thrown in. HEQ5 is my preference.
Compliments ! Your presentation is very informative and gives me the idea about the quality-span of the different refractors - thank you for sharing this! All the best & greetings from Switzerland & CS
This is why I’m a Patreon member! So clear, precise, easy to understand information. 🤙
Honestly, I'm impressed with the SVBony. I have a micro four thirds camera I'm planning to convert to full spectrum.
Thank you so much! This is one of the best, most thorough reviews I have seen in a long time. Great job!
Definitely a case of you get what you pay for. It's all in the optics. Great set of tests. Thanks Nico.
The # of ED glass DIRECTLY relates to the costs. The field flattener is essentially "built in" to the triplet so... if you have less $'s just buy a good doublet and then add the field flattener. Essentially, you get "what you pay for". Been an AP guy for a while now. My SW 100ED was $900 when I bought it but now goes for around $1,300 so it slots between your top 2. I picked up the SW .80 flattener, ASair Pro, 2 ZWO cameras and use an HEQ5 mount. Just found your channel and have now SUBSCRIBED
Finally someone to explain now what's the smallest one I can use to see galaxies
You can see the brighter galaxies like the galaxies in the Messier catalog with any of these. If you want to photograph them, these would work fine. If you want to view them at the eyepiece, I'd suggest a dobsonian telescope, bigger the better.
This video cleared all my doubts!
Have to say that the quality of the svbony is impressive. Looks very good quality.
Just saw the whole video. That svbony is a weapon! He'll of a scope for a low price.
100% agree about not skimping on the mount!
Every time I see people asking this I say the same thing to them, that you can have the best telescope, camera, and everything else in the world, but with a crap mount you will still get crap images.
As well as the fact that I'd much rather have two telescopes and one mount, than have two mounts and only one telescope.
In fact that's why I'm here now, I'm thinking about about getting a better scope, because I spent most of my budget on a HEQ5 last year and cheaped out on the scope, and I don't regret it one bit.
A really good video, not glossing over any of the details of each scope, including the different thread options, available flattener/reducers, and great image comparisons to show what each scope is capable of.
One the best comparison I ever saw. Thank you. I know now what I paying for. Good Job
I bought the Svbony 503 scope. It has very good optics for the price! Can’t wait to try it out during the winter:)
Great comparison. Nice breakdown between these refractors.
Great video Nico! You really know how to pull off a review that is informative and also fun to watch and listen to
I really like that Askar scope... a bit slow natively at f/7.5... but that's pretty much my only gripe with it. Quadruplet design... good rings / bars with plenty of mounting points... beefy focuser... brings a lot to the table for a $1750 price tag that _includes_ the 0.76 reducer. I own a GT81 and it requires a flattener of some sort. WO sells the 6AIII which is a combined reducer/flattener. They do not sell a non-reducing flattener, so you'd have to get something like the Stellarvue if you wanted to run the GT81 at its native focal length. I like the simplicity of being able to use the Askar scope without any additional components or having to worry about whether you got the spacing right.
If I were looking for an imaging scope in the 80mm aperture range, the Askar would be pretty high on my list.
That was awesome. Been looking at the Askar Q series and this helps me decide
Thanks Nico. After watching this review I bought an Askar 80phq. Used of course lol.
Tanks Nico for your informative vid and tutorials. I just wish a dollar is a dollar regardless of where you are in the world. Here in Australia the ASKAR 80 PHQ sells for Au$2599 without any extras. I have yet to buy any gear but doing a lot of research before jumping into a new hobby. Cheers and keep up the good worl.
I'm happy I came across your channel I want to get a Telescope and your channel has just opened my eyes to everything involved. I definitely will getting the better-quality scope Thanks!!
Rotation is essential I'd say even just for observational astronomy if balancing an issue though length weight dependant. Richfields can be small portable and a bargain
This was an awesome, educational video. I certainly understand this comment will be cringy... but as a complete novice.. I was like " but I like the cool blue and purple colors"...
I've wanted one of these since high school and know nothing about them. I'm about to pull the trigger so thank you for this video, I really needed this info. I just wanted to know why I was spending all the extra money and for me I have no other way to learn other than YT
awesome! that was a really helpful and interesting video! thanks for sharing. I especially enjoyed the pictures compared (where you explained the details of the same frame used).
We are at a golden age to where you can buy a nice refractor for under a grand, only caveat is quality assurance may be off so be sure to purchase from a reputable dealer so you can return if you get a lemon. Not all scopes come out the same in mass production, two otherwise identical scopes may perform differently…. Higher priced scopes normally weed these out in the QA process while lower end ones may slip through. Try to educate yourself on basic star test so you can immediately tell the difference
Fantastic video Nico. I'm currently testing the PHQ80 for Sharpstar and completely agree with everything you have said. I've been using it with the 2600mm which is an APS-C camera and the stars in the corners are absolutely fantastic. That SvBony seemed to produce some great results as well. Excellent video as always.
Thanks Russell! Yes, the PHQ80 looks like a winner for sure.
And from where do we buy such a telescope?
I saw the Best Buy website that does not have telescopes as good as the one you explain about in the video
But I don't know where we can get a good telescope and get close to long distances, as shown in this video?😥
Agena Astro and High Point Scientific are the main US Online Retailers. But the Svbony scopes also sell on Amazon and eBay. Check the description for links.
Excellent explanation. Very clear. I had to stop the video a couple of times because I though it was my cat calling me, at third time I realized it was from the video.
This video was perfect for where I'm at. I know very little about telescopes but I've been on the hunt for an amateur setup & have been interested in how ball-park price range translates into visual quality. I know there's variables within each bracket but i feel this has been a sound general unpacking.
I've been looking for a rundown like this for a long time. Thank you!
Amazing video, Nico, extremely clarifying! Checking the images, it really shows that the Askar is a pretty good bargain at $1750.
Sir. Excellent video. Outstanding presentation and breakdown details about the scopes. Subbed and Voted.
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Excellent break down, Nico. Definitely gets into diminishing returns with the higher investment - but still quite clear.
Heyyy...very nicely done. Your comparisons were thorough and well explained. And your visual layout was super easy to follow. 10/10, will subscribe.
Thank you for this breakdown. Very helpful video.
Thank you. I use a Sigma 150-600mm on APS-C. It works very well
Can you see Saturn rings?
@@cantkeepitin Yes but very small. For Saturn I use the telescope with ZWO ASI camera
Awesome Nico! I like the William Optics Zenith Star 61 as well. Keep up the great work dude!
Probably my first time here. I'm interested but not that much: I looked at the video for roughly 20 seconds at the start, and about 3 minutes at the end, for the comparison. Still, this video is valuable as hell. Thumb up.
Thank You! Excellent comparison.
Thanks, now I need a quad.
Really interesting and in depth review/comparison. I really liked your methodology.
Those scopes would be a piggyback finder scope for my, 9.25 sct . Hand work speaking is overload for me. Rock on 🤘
Excelente video de información e imágenes... Muchas gracias máster!!!
I just bought an SVBONY SV503 Telescope, 70ED F6 Extra Low Dispersion Refractor OTA and the associated SVBONY SV193 Focal Reducer and Field Flattener from Amazon. Will arrive this coming Thursday. It will be replacing my GSkyer short tube 80.
Looked at the 80mm, but it was too heavy and the focal length was too long. I wouldn't be able to photograph everything I wanted with my ZWO ASI183 camera.
Appreciate your videos. Informative.
Great Video as always! Thanks Nico!
What a very informative video. Thank you so much!
Thanks Nico! love the content! took my first photo with my telephone a few months back and i got instantly hooked on astrophotography. This was a great breakdown! I was thinking of getting the Orion 80mm as a cheap starter scope but i think ill spend a bit more for the SvBony scope!
I've learned a ton of stuff from this video!
Interesting to hear this. I have none, only my trusty Samyang 135mm f2.0 and Canon 90D
I have a canon eos 1200D with 55mm kit lens and I’m happy! I’m saving up for an omegon LX3 so I can track. :D
@@OwnittEdits You can get Canon 50mm f1.8 or f1.4 prime and be good optically for milky way and wider shots. You can also use a tracker on dslr+lens combo too :)
That Samyang 135 is a great lens. I use it on my Canon T6i :)
Good explanation. Very helpful. kind regards from Germany!
Awesome Review Nico,The Evoguide50Ed Is The Reason I Chose It,For The Glass,and For Solo Widefield..But Been Looking At That Orion 80..I See It For $199 Rings and 8x40 Finder,90* Diagonal And 2 Sirius Plossl EP,I Forget The Mm,And Already Have Everything I Need To Observe Or Image,And Thank You For Showing Me How To Finally Use My Eqm35Pro😂🤷🏼♀️Clear Skies Nico,and God Bless🙏🏻❤️🌏✨🔭…..Update….Santa Brought Me The Evostar80ed..Paired With My Evoguide,and My Eqm35Pro,Always Been A Big SW Fan,And Now Have What Is A Dream Deep Space Set Up For Me😇Havent Seen The Damn Sky In 4 Months🤨
Now, this is a great comparison!
Excellent, great work! Thanks.
Great presentation Nico, I have the Rother Valley Optics Horizon 80ED doublet Refractor scope which seems very similar to the SVBONY. I find it a very respectable telescope for my needs. Reasonably priced and with field flatteners and reducers.
Do rother valley do good scopes. It's not to far away from me and I've often thought of popping over there for advice
@@garybeaumont543 Hi Gary, Rother Valley Optics have the finest showroom around. Its a 100 mile round trip for me and Trust me, it is well worth the visit. There's scopes and accessories that will make you feel like a kid in a sweet shop. Great staff, very knowledgeable and fantastic prices.
For sure a beginner who wants a good telescope but doesn’t want to get something that will be over my head or too complicated, it’s complicated enough just doing research on what to buy. Still very confused. Subbed and liked. Thank you.
Amazing comparison Nico!!
Reducer plus a flattener plus a good mount plus quality eyepieces, good focuser and filters makes it a$$$ game and then your camera photography gear, add in finderscope, guider, software can do a lot to images on a budget you know
Quality work Nico.
Very interesting. I already learned it’s absolutely not worth to me, spending way more than the €160. I just want to see the center for live object viewing. Mainly planets.
I use a superzoom camera, its about $400 and all corrections are included, and the sensor, and you can get 1200mm+, plus I use automated stacking.
The Celestron 1 1/4 variable zoom is the cream of the crop even for collimation …
You should do an “all you need to know about tracking mounts” video :) Love your channel by the way.
Hard to beat svbony sv503 at that price range...
Good product took me only five minutes to set up on my savage arm .22 lr over all good for the price would definitely buy another
This is crazy, I was taking about buying a telescope two days ago the TH-cam started to forward me those kind of videos from yesterday 😂 i never watch anything like related to this area before
Very nice video mate
Learnt a lot. Very informative.
Thank you so much for your Videos. Im looking since 2 Weeks for a first investment for astrophotography for beginners. You videos helped me so much. :)
You should know as well as I do that SEEING and local conditions play a bigger part in the overall result than the difference between an FPL53 doublet or a FK61 triplet lens configuration. I learnt this very quickly. That's why I bought an Altair/Astro Tec 115mm with FK61. Still a triplet but with slightly less expensive glass as my seeing is average. A waste of money to buy an expensive triplet if you r seeing is average or below.
Great video! I would love to see a similar thing with newtonians at different price points
22:00 is the perfect illustration of the differences
Thanks again Nico!
I love the Iris Nebula
Nice video …. One thing left in between … the triplet :)
I feel there would be more detail seen with ED and APO when zoomed in more on the target itself like a nebula which then shows more delta between the telescopes with higher integration times
I am torn between the Svony 503 and 550 80mm now. I can get a flattener/reducer for the 503, I don't have to pay extra for the camera rotator, it's $300 less, but the 550 is a triplet! Right now Amazon's page for the 503 says there's a new version of the 503, and it links to the 550. Are they discontinuing it? It's $389 USD right now, and the 550 is $699. I think I know what I must do... They used to say money doesn't grow on trees.
Super informative video, thank you.
IF I had it to do over - simpler issues than this video - started with a ' department store (useless, primarily because of the tripod ) 3 inch, then a 4.5 inch Newton which was useable, spotting scope was not, tripod still shaken. then I finally got an 8 in. Dobsonian, great, steady base, 2 inch focuser, 50 mm spotting scope. problem, it's too big for me ( I'm 73 ) to easily move in/ out. IF I could start over, it'd be a 6 in Dob. with computer control of some sort.
Excellent video. Great content.