Which is better? Tube Amps Vs Tube Pedals

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    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro
    02:47 Clean tone
    03:05 Synergy distorted tone
    03:20 Behringer Tube Monster circuit discussion
    04:19 Behringer distorted tone
    05:03 Behringer Tube Monster circuit discussion (continued)
    05:47 Seymour Duncan circuit discussion
    06:34 Seymour Duncan Twin Tube distorted tone
    07:47 B. K. Butler Tube Driver circuit discussion
    08:45 B. K. Butler Tube Driver distorted tone
    09:29 Radial Tonebone Classic circuit discussion
    10:35 Radial Tonebone Classic distorted tone
    12:17 Side by side comparison of all
    13:38 Overall thoughts
    In this video, I explore the fascinating world of tube-based guitar pedals and compare them to traditional tube amplifiers. While distortion and overdrive pedals are prevalent, tube-based pedals have become more niche over the years. This comparison aims to highlight the differences, similarities, and unique characteristics of these pedals.
    I start by discussing the history and current status of tube-based pedals. A decade ago, these
    pedals were more popular, with models like the Tube Driver being a staple on many pedalboards. Today, though, brands like Friedman and Kingsley still produce tube pedals, they are less common. The circuits in these pedals differ significantly from those in tube amps, particularly in how they clip the signal. This difference can make it challenging to replicate the exact sound of a high-gain tube amp with pedals alone.
    To illustrate these points, I compare several classic tube pedals to one of my favorite tube “amps”, the Synergy Module (Mark II CP). This all-tube, high-voltage unit is based on the Mark II C+ amp and provides additional high-gain, high-voltage tube channels to an existing amp. I demonstrate its capabilities by playing through a clean channel and then with higher gain settings.
    Next, I introduce the Behringer Vintage Tube Monster, a clone of the Ibanez Tube King TK999. This pedal features a noise gate and operates at lower voltage, combining tubes with op-amps for a distinct sound. It produces a crunchy, sizzly tone, with the tubes starved for voltage to enhance distortion.
    I then showcase the Seymour Duncan Twin Tube, which operates at higher voltage and functions more like a traditional tube amp. It uses non-standard tubes to achieve its sound, producing a fuzzy tone that requires careful adjustment to control the bass for a crunchier distortion.
    The BK Butler Tube Driver follows, a pedal similar in design to the Behringer Tube Monster. It uses op-amps to boost the signal before distorting it with tubes. While not an exact replica of a tube amp, it provides a unique clipping and distortion characteristic.
    Lastly, I present the Radial Tonebone, a pedal that was highly popular in the early 2000s. It offers various tone-shaping switches and uses tubes like clipping diodes with minimal voltage, combining op-amps and tube clipping. I demonstrate it with a medium gain setting, showcasing its versatility and sound quality.
    After comparing these tube-based pedals, I revisit the Synergy module and play each circuit side by side to highlight the differences and similarities in their tube-based sounds.
    Comment below with your favorite tube-based pedals and how they compare to traditional tube amps.
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  • @irvingperes
    @irvingperes 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    Yes, Brian. The answer is yes. If you made a pedal with actual tubes, we’d gladly buy it.

  • @SlowToe
    @SlowToe 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    50 years of experience right here! Happy belated birthday Brian 🎉

  • @vonmilash823
    @vonmilash823 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I have an old Mesa Boogie v twin and I don't care what anyone says. put a ts9 or mojo mojo in front of it and it's as good as any amp you can mane. It chugs even with my cheepie Squier tele.

    • @vancepitman2105
      @vancepitman2105 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have a Mesa Bottle Rocket. Simpler, a bit crisper, very crisp (seemed to cut through a bit more cleanly than the V Twin, for me), solid on its own, and stacks fantastically with other drives, or into a medium gain amp channel.
      Although it’s just volume, drive, and two band EQ, I definitely prefer it over the Tube Driver and Ibanez circuits. I’m curious if the Mesa pedals follow a similar design with high power Op Amp and starved tubes.

  • @evancrocker5343
    @evancrocker5343 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    The Hughes and Kettner Tube Factor was a cool pedal I used for a bit and still own. I swapped out the stock tube for a lower gain 12AU7 or 12AT7 and it sounded even better. It was equally great as both a boost to an already dirty sound or as a distorted rhythm tone on the clean channel.

    • @mesasavage
      @mesasavage 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      12AY7 or its industrial 6072 counterpart is the sweet spot between those two and my favorite for replacing a 12AX7. AU is too low and AT is strange as the first gain stages. AU is better as a cathode follower and AT is better in the phase inverter spot on a PP or PPP amp. Each tube has its purpose, but I think the AY is vastly overlooked as a way to ideally knock some gain down from an AX.

  • @2Plus2isChicken2013
    @2Plus2isChicken2013 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    That Radial pedal is the best sounding one I think. I have the Hot British version and it’s a favorite of mine. Radial should bring these pedals back.

    • @allenlocke1935
      @allenlocke1935 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I love my Tri Mode Radial clean, and two distortion options with an effects loop on the lead channel. Always makes me smile!

    • @herculesrockafeller
      @herculesrockafeller 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It has the tightest sound I think.

    • @jenniferlawrence2701
      @jenniferlawrence2701 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I read somewhere they're based on an old Japanese pedal Shawn Lane used to use. Could be wrong.

  • @RenanSilva-ue5jp
    @RenanSilva-ue5jp 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Harlot v3 from kingsley, my all time favorite drive pedal. versatile, powerful and enough features to allow me to use any kind of guitar on a set and compensate accordingly, love it to death!

    • @adielelgi
      @adielelgi 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Definitely ! My favorite pedal!!!

    • @andrewgalvin2616
      @andrewgalvin2616 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Second this

    • @laurentperez5229
      @laurentperez5229 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I have a lot of Tube drive pedal and the Harlot V3 is the best I ever bought. Really really great pedal. And most of my Kingsley (Maiden D and Page TS) pedals are the best I ever tried or owned.

    • @TeleBlaster
      @TeleBlaster 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I just got a Harlot V3. Its splendid. My fav drive pedal b4 that was also a Kingsley …a Page. The Harlot is like a Page +.

    • @adielelgi
      @adielelgi วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TeleBlaster I have had so many overdrive and boost pedals.. Kingsley is simply the best.. at least for me

  • @Ottophil
    @Ottophil 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Ive been playing 2-4 shows a month for the last year. I quickly gave up my precious half stacks and twins for a friedman IRX and a class D power amp pedal, and a 1x12 cab. I don’t even think of it as a pedal. My amp is at my feet now. Its not digital (unless I use the IR’s) and it sounds “real” at home I still use a 6505+ for distortion. And fender twin for cleans. But live, its friedman IRX doing both.
    The high voltage tube gain is my only acceptable path. If i played clean only:id of gone digital eventually. Friedman is worth every single penny

    • @guttedEwok01
      @guttedEwok01 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What power amp pedal do you use?

  • @Superjet113
    @Superjet113 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Enjoyed this, and the way you basically explained how each circuit worked. Thank you Mr. Wampler!

  • @eduardokazuo2900
    @eduardokazuo2900 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    The "Magician" Brian Wampler playing through a Behringer VT999 and saying that is real good. I never thought I'd live to see that. A lot of people must be hanging themselves. Cheers from Brazil. By the way. Happy Birthday man. Love your pedals.

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      VT999 FTW! \m/

    • @MikeSmith-tx2lp
      @MikeSmith-tx2lp วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Get over the Behringer bias problem. They make excellent value kit nowadays. “Not made in USA” does not mean anything is automatically crap.

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MikeSmith-tx2lp I agree!
      I've had alm 0 trouble with any Behringer thing I've ever bought!

    • @eduardokazuo2900
      @eduardokazuo2900 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@MikeSmith-tx2lp I own 2 bugera heads. Love them.

  • @riffmondo9733
    @riffmondo9733 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Tube Monster is a great one.
    I was surprised when I got one a played around with it.

  • @jimbeaux4988
    @jimbeaux4988 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I watch tons of videos showing different drive pedals. This is the first one where they ALL sound great.

  • @robertbarajas2311
    @robertbarajas2311 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    You're the Man Brian. Technical Genius.. I think tube driven distortion and overdrives are cool..

  • @terryenglish7132
    @terryenglish7132 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have the VOX Silk Drive and love it. I'm getting the AC30 sounding one next month as soon as my $ deposits.

    • @trebleboost7
      @trebleboost7 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Really want to try these!

    • @terryenglish7132
      @terryenglish7132 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@trebleboost7Nu Tubes sound just like tubes, amp tubes, not the low V current starved "Tube Driver" kind. Silk sounds great w effects as well.

  • @markdesod561
    @markdesod561 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very informative video!

  • @jeffhughes1039
    @jeffhughes1039 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thank you for this video Brian. I'd love to see how you would approach building a vacuum tube based pedal

  • @watcherzero000
    @watcherzero000 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a Mesa Boogie V Twin that I bought back in 2009. It's one of my fav pedals.

  • @SlowPersuit
    @SlowPersuit 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have a tube pedal running into a tube amp.
    Its all so vintage & tube driver-ish that the clocks go back 15 minutes every time I power up.

  • @MyOtherNick
    @MyOtherNick 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, happy birthday from the Netherlands, Brian!

  • @buzzyboy6505
    @buzzyboy6505 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I know I’ll never be able to replicate this tone no matter what I do but I do enjoy watching and listening. It’s just so thick sounding.

  • @jeffs.3533
    @jeffs.3533 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Happy 50th Brian! You rock! I recently got a "Tsakalis G (Gravity) Spot" pedal, and find it's heads and tails above just about every other pedal I have. It sounds heavenly. Thanks for the video!

  • @mikaeljohansson83
    @mikaeljohansson83 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really love your videos Brian always informative and always enjoyable. And I just love all the more in depth videos being an electronics engineer every show with a schematic gives me the chills 😉 And the fact that I really enjoy your playing makes it all so much better!

  • @Sainte305
    @Sainte305 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I used the Behringer with a tube screamer for 2 years and loved it. I only paid $15 for it on Amazon. Probably the most value I've ever gotten from a pedal. In fact, I had a couple of their pedals, most I didn't like except for their tube drive and their reverb. Effectrode is by far my favorite tube driven pedals nowadays.

  • @mrbassdbd
    @mrbassdbd 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have the behringer with a less gainy tube in it and it has always been amazing

  • @christopherallen5603
    @christopherallen5603 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have pedal I bought off Ebay from Aurhur Sounds store that's an exact circuit part for part and same voltage of an SLO preamp's lead channel. I absolutely love it and when I'm not recording direct in with it, I plug it into the return of the effects loop of either of my amps.

  • @4gave1
    @4gave1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The Tubesteader stuff is fantastic

  • @eddododo
    @eddododo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Man, I don’t know if it’s just that guitarists aren’t wise to it yet; but Sushibox are doing some UNBELIEVABLY great things with tubes in a pedal form factor

  • @raycochrane3971
    @raycochrane3971 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for explaining the why/how of the starved plate.

  • @tmduncan75
    @tmduncan75 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brian I recently got a Carvin x1 pedal for Father's day and I love it. Bought a 2 channel looper pedal to run it with my amp so that I can switch between my amps preamp and the preamp pedal to give me versatility for blues, country, and rock, but still only using one amp. I'm very impressed with it and I am shocked more people don't know how good it is. I'd love to see you do a video on it being you're my go-to pedal guy. I have a Belle and an Ego compressor run in front. Please consider doing this from a fan of your pedals and your perspective videos.

  • @ronnieanderson3081
    @ronnieanderson3081 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    well brian, i have been a huge fan of your od/dist stuff for a long time. i used a sovereign pedal for a few years, then the pinnacle, then the tumnus. of course the natural progression for me then is the combo gearbox. LOVE IT! thanks for your relentless dedication to making guitar players sound great!

  • @user-pg1qw9xk4h
    @user-pg1qw9xk4h 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My favorite would be the Kingsley Harlot, 3-knob version.

  • @thehappyheretic2136
    @thehappyheretic2136 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love that guitar you're holding!
    very cool

  • @Damaraja
    @Damaraja 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i typically have a Valvecaster and Mosfet Boost ‘always on’, running close to unity, into a tube amp. They fortify the signal and can induce overdrive, if needed 🤙

  • @dukey558
    @dukey558 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Blackbird really shines once connected to a clean amp with high headroom, it sounds fantastic ever~!

  • @scotthutchens1556
    @scotthutchens1556 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have original Chandler rack Mount Tube Driver and rack mount Blue Tube units. Plus the black Real Tube Overdrive pedal. For years I used them but actually have found as much if not more satisfaction in specialized pedals like your Wampler Plexi-Drive Deluxe and Plextortion, Pinnacle, Tweed ‘57, Black ‘65, etc., because of giving me these sought after amp tones. After seeing this video I will be pulling some of these out of mothballs to use with the MOSFET amps I have like the Orange Crush 35 RT, Peavey red stripe Bandit and Roland late 90’s 60 watt Blues Cube. As it was I hadn’t played though my tube amps that much because of the MOSFET amps and AIAB pedals but have played through my Marshall Class 5, Studio 15.

  • @rocketsauce5067
    @rocketsauce5067 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the tube driver rack version of this. It is very versatile. From gated fuzz to pretty modern high gain.

  • @danduntz2539
    @danduntz2539 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I picked up an Ibanez tube king (tk999us) a couple years ago, and I’ve played it through my 90’s soldano, my hardwired ac30 and my fender concert, and it sounds great on each of them, with some tweaking.

  • @sonidojamon
    @sonidojamon 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I loved my Ibanez PUE 5 Tube!! And I still own a half rack unit Hughes & Kettner Blues/Cream Machine!

  • @ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204
    @ryanforresterrenaissancesa4204 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't have much experience with tube pedals. I do have the Vox V-8 which uses a higher-voltage circuit for the tube. To run it with batteries requires SIX AAs, with 600 milliamps minimum. It has a good range of overdrive to distortion options and works great with our Marshalls. My son has one and loves it also.

  • @nielsdonnelly6027
    @nielsdonnelly6027 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have been using the Friedman IR-D for a direct solution and am loving it!

  • @peterzlateff-fh7yt
    @peterzlateff-fh7yt 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve been using the IRX as my overdrive into a clean tube amp for low volume playing. No IRs engaged. Does the job well.

  • @czarofzonk1360
    @czarofzonk1360 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love my VT999. The pots are very smooth.
    I put my VT999 in front of my Silvertone 1482 tube amp.
    I then put my tube amp in front of my Pod-Go (using load box' line-out).
    I route the AMP out of the Pod-Go to my Orange Crush 12.
    I route the cab-sim out of my Orange Crush through a Zoom MS70-CDR back into the Pod-Go through the stereo effects-loop.
    It is awesome. I made a gear vid of the above (along with lengthy description).

    • @czarofzonk1360
      @czarofzonk1360 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      As for my VT999, I use a full 1-AMP dedicated power supply driving a Genalex Gold Lion 12AX7. The VT999, out of the box, uses a 230 mA power supply driving a Bugera 12AX7 (those do pair well, actually), but when you pump up the power to drive a darker pre-amp tube, it's pretty magical.

    • @VintageSG
      @VintageSG 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@czarofzonk1360 Try a 12V power supply in place of the 9V and a 12AU7. Long plate 12AU7/ECC82 respond really well. The gain control still allows for utter filth, but the control is now useable over a much wider range. 12V won't hurt anything, providing you ensure the correct polarity. The main reason for using it is the valve heaters. If you meter the voltage applied, you'll notice they're a little 'starved' with the 9V.

  • @hoosierdaddy2308
    @hoosierdaddy2308 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm 62 and I always loved the Chandler, but I own the tone bone❤..Good stuff. ❤

  • @mrmatthew2443
    @mrmatthew2443 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It is , you have a good one there ( the BK butler tube driver ) yes..!! There are other versions that don’t sound anything like the version you have
    .. Eric Johnson uses that one and yes David gilmour but EJ really utilizes his tube driver
    It’s one of his signature tones we’ve all heard many times

  • @Arwndr
    @Arwndr 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I use very compact E730 tube preamp, mod of Engl E530. 4 channels, 2 separate full controls for clean and lead, contour and brightness switch. Sound exactly same as Engl. And has a size of two mini pedals.
    Custom order.
    I use it with power tube emulator + IR + effects(delay/reverb) => and then straight into active speakers or phones.

  • @Unusednickname_1970
    @Unusednickname_1970 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’ve had quite a few OD/distortion pedals with tubes. All of them running at proper high voltage.
    Some sounded great, others just ok. Bottom line is, I’ve had plenty of dirt pedals without tubes that sound just as good, or better.
    Believe it or not, the Boss OD-3 remains one of my favorites.
    What I’ve learned is that tubes in a pedal doesn’t necessarily make it sound/feel any more amp-like than a good solid state pedal.

  • @rossbalch
    @rossbalch 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love my Kraken v4 preamp. 4 tubes, high voltage. Sounds amazing.

  • @guitarman5560
    @guitarman5560 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I went through a phase where I owned a number of tube based over drives. I've pretty much moved away from them but the one pedal that is on my board that will be there forever is the Kingsley Page.

  • @damonb3939
    @damonb3939 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Few notables from my years of playing. Mad professor 1, gets evh sounds plus reverb. RAT from 88 non led great for early Nuno tones. Rack mount Chandler Tube Driver. Marshall classic tone. Sansamp first rack mount. Very versatile.

    • @damonb3939
      @damonb3939 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Note only the Chandler had tubes in it.

  • @rayprevailer8454
    @rayprevailer8454 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I got the Behringer to mess around with some MOD ideas. The enclosure has lots of extra room. When I got it and played through it I was shaken at how good it sounded. The gate is really good to. I still have not done any mods as it is really good just the way it is. Think I paid $99. I thought that Radial sounded really good. I never tried one.

  • @Spicypedals
    @Spicypedals 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Brian, great video! I'm really surprised and fascinated by the Tonebone. I had no idea it had such versatility and character.

  • @SanderVerstraten
    @SanderVerstraten 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I still got the Ibanez TK999, great pedal. And a nice choice for Bass Guitar too

  • @01Szilard-q7y
    @01Szilard-q7y 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm using a Kingsley Page inside the fx loop. Nice pedal.

  • @dalegroff3972
    @dalegroff3972 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To my ears the Butler drive was a favorite. That and the Synergy. They were all cool and I’d be happy with any. I hadn’t heard the tone bone, that was my 3rd fav for sure.
    My gig rig is an OD-3 and an Xotic SL into a 12 watt, cathode biased amp.

  • @OgamiItto70
    @OgamiItto70 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used to have a rack unit from Digitech called the GFX-1 Twin Tube that did great tube distortion. It had a built-in noise gate, 5-band graphic EQ and a really sweet compressor (among other effects). It did a great simulation of a cranked Marshall, really good tone. Try one of those if you can find one. They seem to be rare these days, but not expensive.

  • @jimmcdougall9973
    @jimmcdougall9973 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Friedman have done a very good job with the IRX.

  • @retrosoundstudio
    @retrosoundstudio 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gotta love the Lovepedal woodrow for tubey overdrive tones!

  • @riffmondo9733
    @riffmondo9733 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tube Monster is a great one.
    I was surprised when I got one a played around with it.
    Radial stuff is all good as well. I have Tonebone and the Tri-Mode.
    Still break them out frim time to time.

  • @ShawnPGMaloy
    @ShawnPGMaloy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Synergy rules! So does the Ethereal! Will there be a Wampler tube pedal???

  • @KyleKalevra
    @KyleKalevra 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I keep a Behringer VT999 Tube Monster (with a 12AU7 tube) pedal on my board as my preamp. My whole DI board is based around that pedal.

    • @rayzorback88
      @rayzorback88 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just curious what you're using as power amp sim and cab sim?

  • @ProfessionalNoodler
    @ProfessionalNoodler 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I kinda miss that Behringer tube driver, I used to use it when I didn't have the money for a tube amp. Eventually had some tube amps around so I tossed it. But you're right Brian, loads of people had some type of tube drive on their board a decade back.

    • @sparkyguitar0058
      @sparkyguitar0058 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Want another one ? I have the Behringer vintage O D that I did the Bitmo mod to. And then for now I'm using a 12a7u tube which is the weakest of the 12a style. I use a early 3 knob T Driver that has been modded with a bias knob up front by Fromel. Also using a 12a7u tube and running it at 18v for more headroom. It stacks very well with a Alchemy modded Blues Driver and a Meat and 3 modded Soul Food. None of these need very much gain so noise level is reasonable.

    • @stoneysdead689
      @stoneysdead689 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sparkyguitar0058 What is a "Bitmo" mod? I might be interested in it, if you're serious about selling.

  • @ErickPaquin
    @ErickPaquin 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The radial and the one by Butler sounds the best to me. The one I use for "rock" is the "Red Rox" from the company Dawner Prince, quite amazing. I paired that once with a 1964 Super Reverb Black face and wow... closest to a "Brown sound" I ever had.

  • @Zlofengir
    @Zlofengir 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the Tube Driver as well as the B.K. Butler Real Tube and both are worthy secret weapons in one's arsenal. I highly recommend grabbing the Tube Driver with the Bias Mod; it gives you fine-tuning over the feel of your crunchiness. Also, the Plush Valve Job by Fuchs is a sleeper pedal that is not discussed. I love all three of these pedals with a Klon(e) pushing the front end.

  • @jacobsteele2929
    @jacobsteele2929 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have tried playing various pedals through solid state amps for years, then a neighbor let me play on his marshal jcm and it blew me away! I have since bought a mesa boogie mark v 25, and absolutely love the fat and crunch modes on channel 1. On the 25, the mid control turns into a boost past noon. So I have that pretty high and back the gain off. I have treble up high and bass low on the first eq. play it soft and it's clean with a little grit, dig into it and it roars. It has a huge range and super responsive to how I'm playing. And the crunch mode is awesome too. That behringer tube monster sounds the closest and my favorite of these!

  • @michaeljuliano8839
    @michaeljuliano8839 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve never had a tube amp, although I want to get one because I’ve been led to believe there’s a feel to them that you can’t get elsewhere. What I use right now until I can afford one is a NU>X Amp Academy that I run into the Power Amp in on a Boss Katana. In particular, I like their Vox AC30 tone and their JCM 800 tone. Honestly, the tones I get make me happy, so I’m not sure I’ll feel I got my money’s worth when I eventually do get a tube amp even if it is a better experience.

  • @vonmilash823
    @vonmilash823 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For the record I think they all sound fantastic

  • @richardconley4705
    @richardconley4705 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So, I've built 3 tube pedals from a DIY web site and all 3 sound great and they are all very different than any of my overdrive/distortion pedals sound wise. The tube pedals do use an inductor to ramp up the voltage to over 200volts, so the tubes are doing what tubes do. I've compared the tube pedals to everything from the Pallisades by Earthquaker Devices to the VH4 by Diezel. I love the pallisades and it probably comes the closest to the tube pedals, but the tube pedals definitely have their own sound, and yes, it's tubey!😁

  • @robertbuffalo8287
    @robertbuffalo8287 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I own the Effectrode Blackbird and it sounds great. I maybe would not say it is better, since sound is very subjective. However, it is more versatile with two separate drive channels. I also have the tubesteader lightkeeper, which I like to stack with my analog drive pedals to get a tube feel and that sound great as well.

  • @robcerasuolo9207
    @robcerasuolo9207 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yaaay, Effectrode got some love, even for a split second! I have a Helios Fuzz, and it's pretty dadgum awesome.
    I wish you'd actually played through a Blackbird, but I really did enjoy the ones you did show us.

  • @scottcurry4116
    @scottcurry4116 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a Kingsley Minstrel V3 and it is a great pedal. I use it with my Ge Tumnus in front to push it or I use them independently. Together they are awesome and very versatile. I’m not into super high gain sounds though. I have put other ODs in front too like the Pantheon, Prince of Tone and ThorpyFX Gunshot. They all give different flavors. The Pantheon is super versatile too.

  • @Stereostupid
    @Stereostupid 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Happy belated Brian!!

  • @jimilee459
    @jimilee459 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The butler was crunchy like an overdrive, the behringer was more like a distortion. Those were my favorite. I have a clone (DIY) of the Soldano GTO that I like.

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I prefer the variety you can get with OpAmp and especially FETS in dirt pedals. They also have less problems on a big board interfacing. My board is actually in effect wired as 3 boards used as 3 channels on a pedal switcher. I actually have and use 63 pedals in total. Even live! I use a Marshall left just before crunch. I did have a shot with a tube pedal and I could only get one usable dirt sound. I gave it to my bass player. It gets used as an always on pedal with a rig that uses a studio rack amp not a bass amp. .

  • @timwood6115
    @timwood6115 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The TC Electronics TubePilot is the least-expensive of the pedals with tubes in them. Back in the day, I built a Stak-in-a-Box tube guitar pre-amp kit from Paia Electronics. Craig Anderton designed it. It's still available. It is a hybrid, starved-tube circuit.

  • @analogMensch
    @analogMensch 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a TK999HT, this one actually runs on high voltage (it needs 12Vac and have a transofrmer inside). Amazing sound, I it mostly stays on my shelf. Don't want to give it away cause it was was first real tube sound, but I'm happy with my board and amp sound so my stuff stayed the same since some years.

  • @stahliwood8755
    @stahliwood8755 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought a tube pedal from a brand called tubesteader, the lightkeeper is awesome. I also have a ibanez TS10 modded with a tube sounds incredible

  • @colinchristensen6603
    @colinchristensen6603 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve got a few tube drive pedals (Maxon ROD881, Blackstar HT Dual and a Mozztronics TD2) and they’re great but all need specific power packs, are more susceptible to noise and can be unpredictable and hard to control when you get up to gigging levels. So they get left at home and the Indyguitarist Pinnacle stays on the board 😊.

  • @zaturnneo
    @zaturnneo วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of my favorite old pedals is a Digitech RP7. Something about the tube preamp that gives it the right saturation.

  • @joegill344
    @joegill344 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I run a tubescreamer 808 into a Vintage Tube Monster and into a Peavey Valve King. I dime the level and tone on the tubescreamer. The drive is at zero. The Vintage Tube Monster has the gain at about three and my amp gain is about 5. I basically use it as a gain stage and eq. The distortion is beautiful but the clarity is definitely there. It makes my two channel amp effectively a four channel amp.

  • @sirhc210
    @sirhc210 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    been checking out this Telecaster, nice to see someone rock some riffs with it, other videos all bluegrass stuff haha

  • @leftymike5625
    @leftymike5625 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do like the drive channel of my Revv G20 which gives me my tube fix. But right now I'm way into the wampler pantheon and the germanium tumnus. I also just put the tumnus deluxe back on my board.

  • @thibaultabrial
    @thibaultabrial 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice demo and comparison,Tonebone and Tube Driver are the best in my opinion,thanks a lot ;-)

  • @doonilevitin
    @doonilevitin 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the pinnacle V2, that’s my main distortion pedal

  • @mcinen67
    @mcinen67 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    All of them soundet good in there own way. 😄👍

  • @ESP77769
    @ESP77769 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    There's an all-tube pedal based on Radial's and Shaun Lane's NADY tube pedal, the Zebra DP-3, they are out there used for $50. One of the best I've heard!!

  • @silcoxone
    @silcoxone 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just got the TC electronics tube driver. It only sounds good cranked. Spits and fizzy sounding at lower settings. When you click it off, it still has some bleed through, I guess, and spits on your single notes when off. Diode bad, maybe?
    Sweetwater will be getting it back.
    Thanks! Love the channel!

  • @juanvaldez4043
    @juanvaldez4043 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m using a mod kits Pusuader, it’s point to point, no ic or magic fairy dust. It is an extremely low voltage unit so it gets fuzzy fast.

  • @omikl
    @omikl 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used to have a Mesa V-Twin but never really found a way to use it with my rig.
    Lat year I picked up an old Ibanez PUE5 Tube which is mains powered and has a "Tube Drive" section with a 12AX7 in it. I suspect that with the main power it is running the 12AX7 at "real voltage" levels. Sounds pretty good though.
    The same unit also contains the best sounding Tubescreamer that I have, and I have a few.

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I found my HK Tubeman in my storage tub a few weeks ago. Gonna bust it out and see what do.

    • @SH-pq5zq
      @SH-pq5zq 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I own 3 of the HK tubeman from the 90’s….great pedal and very versatile….u have to clean the pots regularly (in my experience)

    • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
      @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SH-pq5zq. I’ve been plugging my pedals into my interface and using Genome just for power amp modeling and cab IR. I like it because I can reach over and turn the knobs on the pedal and I don’t get lost in endless virtual amp tweaking.

  • @toddashley407
    @toddashley407 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I've played through practically everything in my 35 years as a guitar player and professionally trained audio engineer.... I used to be a tube snob but accepted reality a few years back and became simply an analog guy. There are some decent digital stuff out there BUT nothing beats well designed analog circuits from a performance and response perspective. That said I'm pretty sold on on the higher end cabinet emulators out there. So...
    In my view something like the Sansamp flavor of your choice with a two notes cab emulator into a MODERN class D solid state amp with a really good speaker cab is going to be the way to go these days. Season with additional pedals of your choice...
    I would be interested in you guys making your take on a "Wampler" analog pedalboard preamp - and it doesn't have to have tubes either just something that responds and can be tweeked (EQ/gain functions) like a real tube amp. I imagine you guys would produce something amazing and ultimately legendary.

  • @manthehelm
    @manthehelm 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Radial trimode and plexitube are some of my favorites! Still regret getting rid of those

  • @FastRedPonyCar
    @FastRedPonyCar 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ever played a Soldano Supercharger GTO? I borrowed one for a while from my friend Bruce at Brit-Tone amplification and it was pretty cool. Noisy but tons of gain and according to him, one of the only tube drive pedals that runs at a proper voltage.

  • @christianbriere3572
    @christianbriere3572 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got an English muffin EHX to mod it. Ended up redoing all circuit in it. Sounds good. I replicated the eq shape of my Sweet honey pedal. Mid focused.

  • @DirtyDead1313
    @DirtyDead1313 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had an Ibanez PUE5 Tube as my main Pedal Board for 30 years and it had a tube in it. It had my favorite Tube Screamer and my favorite distortion in it that was warm and could handle any style. I wish I could find out why that Tube Screamer and Tube Driver sounded so good. There was no “mid hump” at all.

  • @mrmatthew2443
    @mrmatthew2443 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The effectrode tube drive is a really good that uses high voltage and three tubes
    And changing out the tubes makes a big difference .. you might like that one

    • @mrmatthew2443
      @mrmatthew2443 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh and the SUB varidrive is quite good

  • @robertolsen9721
    @robertolsen9721 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the kraken preamp. But recently I bought the Xotic sl drive, didn't use the kraken for 1 month now. But the kraken has a very good marshall type of sound.

  • @RICO_SUAVE21
    @RICO_SUAVE21 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Vintage tube monster is 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥 and that tone bone!!!

  • @doctersound9630
    @doctersound9630 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I use a Mesa V-Twin, and the Seymour Duncan Twin Tube, as my tube pedals. Love them both.
    Just the “Dirt in my chain” - (other effects left out for ease of explanation, my board is huge)
    Fuzz Face ->JHS NOTAKLON ->TS9 modded with JRC4558D chip -> Keeley modded Blues driver -> Mesa V-Twin -> Seymour Duncan Twin tube -> ZVex Fuzz factory -> Radial twin city switcher -> Mesa Boogie Heartbreaker & Hughes & Kettner Triamp MKII.
    Mr. Wampler, I would love to hear your thoughts on my dirt choices… am I missing anything? Thinking of adding maybe a (Wampler SLOstorion? Or Diezel VH4? For even highe gain madness) had an MXR Fullbore metal, but could not come to terms with its tone, as a crazy high gain pedal)
    Thank you for your amazing videos and content and all your pedals/amps etcetera!

  • @SteveTose
    @SteveTose 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Big fan of the channel! I don't know why mesa v-twin never gets onto these tube pedal comparisons, I have 2 of them! Main rig is genz benz el diablo and mesa 2x12 half back metal grill slanted. I use v-twin wherever I would use an actual preamp. I do love the synergy stuff but don't own any, yet, and haven't directly compared.

    • @wampler_pedals
      @wampler_pedals  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You have a great point, I’m going to hit up reverb.com and grab a v-twin asap!

    • @SteveTose
      @SteveTose 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wampler_pedals cool, I'm looking forward to it! If you have trouble finding I could lend you one happily.

  • @deanbibb3680
    @deanbibb3680 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I loved BK Butler’s Real Tube 901. I used that with several amps. I’d love to still have it or have another.

  • @kendickinson8307
    @kendickinson8307 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Two variables... 1) How do they feel to play on - not just the tone. 2) Personal preference. I say that because I do find a nice tube amp to be a bit more "fun" to play with the natural sag and compression. Note that I'm talking about a really good tube amp (personally, I play a Zinky). On the other hand, I also really like to play pedals direct into the board. Even though the feel of the tube amp give and take is really nice, it's subtle for the money - and I also really love playing in stereo (in fact, on a limited budget, I'll choose the stereo modeling rig most days). On to personal preference: I really didn't hear a huge amount of difference in the tones. If one of them stood out, it would be the Seymour Duncan because it has that low end growl (or mush, depending on how you think about it). That said, I used to hate that flabby low end. Nowadays, I kind of like it because there is a bit of the "amp about to blow up" tone to it. That said, I can get that with a lot of different analog dirt pedals that are out now (interestingly, I have an inexpensive TC Electronic Cinders for exactly that reason). But you said it best. People change. Styles Change. Tastes change. Ears change. I've changed.