ABC News' Linsey Davis speaks with Kristine Stolakis and Julie Rodgers on their documentary "Pray Away," which examines the fallout from conversion therapy, a practice legal in some form in 30 states.
We have to love ourselves. We aren’t going to be able to be perfect. It’s just okay. Honestly, I am a single mom. My only son has struggled big time with his gender. Honestly, if I could have been a mom of twins, I would have bugged them ...both. (With the status of the only daughter, I had two brothers. ) I lost my older brother from suicide and lung cancer several years ago. It was very sad for weeks. I had Kris and he was needing his one parent. Without my older dearest brother, I was a mess! I had my parents then, plus my middle brother and his own family. (Yet , I was totally exhausted and crying. ) Since then, I can’t cry easily. Yet, I was sent to counseling and my son and I were just struggling after 9/11. We sold our house and I got more I’ll with a tumor of my face. Yup! So, but thankful for every day. I am. (In reality, we are generally not ever gonna be progressing well.. if we are not accepting of who we are.) It’s a beautiful place to be honest and accepting. Yup!
You won't deny the reality of God if you're burning in Hell 🔥🥵🔥. The only way you won't burn in Hell is if Jesus is your savior and you turn from your sins.
@@justinteehee4358Those who believe in hell can never know truth, for they are blinded by fear. The idea of hell was invented to establish a religious dictatorship and those who believe live under a tyranny far greater than any human tyrant could ever establish. They believe they are always under the eye of the tyrant! They believe their every word is recorded, their every action noted, even their innermost thoughts are known and judged by their cruel master of endless, unmerciful punishment. To such believers every act and thought is the result of fear. They are to be pitied.
@@justinteehee4358That terrible dogma of hell has destroyed the very foundations of morality. The basic force of morality is “the power of sympathy”; feeling the hurt of others-and caring. The dogma of hell has destroyed that foundation. The mother, it is believed, could sit joyfully in heaven for all eternity and watch her wayward son or daughter burning and suffering in hell. I detest a belief that can make people so heartless. I could never be a Christian! I could never be happy in a heaven knowing there are people suffering in a hell. I have great sympathy for people, their pain, their suffering, their feelings, their losses, and their hopes. Hell is the most unfortunate, dangerous, heinous, brutal, unimaginable, immoral, hateful, and sick idea ever conceived by the human mind. The amount of psychological damage it has caused to billions of people is incalculable. Nothing of this sort could have come from any actual god.
@@justinteehee4358 it's very nice that you read a book that you seemed to take to heart but you cannot expect anyone else to adhere to your beliefs, especially since your beliefs come from a man made book. If all people "sin" and can be forgiven of their sins than you have no reason to worry about other people and if they are sinning. Spread love or don't spread anything at all. Your bigoted ways are not what that book was trying to teach you.
@UCfGfBN9n96LgJC0sdr0SoRA Jesus said "what yo do to the least of thy you do to me". If you send a gay or trans kid to a conversation camp you are harming the least among use and you are spitting in the face of God.
We are leaving a life hypocrisy we fear our own people community/LGBT Medias ETC… then god, god pressure is great then a poor human being… if they cancel you god will not cancel you.
I find it silly. .! God gave us just "1" Divine gift, at birth. . That was/is the divine gift of 'Choice'.. How we journey throughout life, is that choice... Who is to say that my walk in life, is someone else's choice.. We 'need' to live better...!
@@Thyalwaysseek lol Maybe you should accept that most people don't adhere to that book you seem to obsessed over. Just because YOU like a book doesn't mean anyone else should have to read it or listen to you whine about it. Move on with your bigoted hate and learn to spread love
Of course God says doesn’t judge! But he WILL judge sin. After all will he not bring to account every deed and idle word that has been said and done on this world?
Actually God didn't say that at all, God said you will be held to the same standard you judge others, it's about hypocrisy. In fact Jesus (Son of God) warned about sexual immorality and said it was an evil that came from within and defiled a person.
@@Thyalwaysseek You actually felt the need to explain that Jesus is the "son of God"? Sorry, just because your religion gives you a false sense of superiority - it does not mean anyone should ever have to listen to you or your cult beliefs
@@firstnamelastname6193 Yes I did feel the need to explain that since the majority of modern Christians have been corrupted with false teachings and believe the son is the Father.
You can't convert somebody, they must want to make the change in themselves and it begins by delving into what happened to them when they were younger to cause such sexual imbalance.
I CURSE people like you.. I wish with my life that you will experience all the pain and suffering we've been through.. CURSEEEeeEe... YoUuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Thyalwaysseek Do you realize how different your personality would change, if you had no genitailia and hormones running through your blood? No. You don't. Because, I doubt you ever passed biology 101.
Jesus is the only way.a person , a church, that can’t change our sin and our desire to sin. Only Jesus can. These church camps have nothing to do with this all. Matter of fact it doesn’t have anything to do with God
@@PenAndSea I'm sorry. But that's not the case. Not according to the Bible.This has to be very difficult for the people struggling with it. But the Bible shows that sacrificing yourself for the love of God is what he really looks for.
@@sergiopabon1387 i believe that the Bible is a work of fiction. It was written by ppl from a long time ago and they imposed their personal views in order to control the masses. If a higher power exists, sexuality would not matter in their eyes
@@PenAndSea Read the Bible. Try to disprove it. I guarantee you won't be able to. We are not in this world for us. We were made to have free will and hopefully use that free will to love God. And if you love God more then yourself. Then deny yourself and follow God.
Nobody is forcing them they are choosing key word CHOOSING to go through the conversion therapy and to clarify the girls dispute if you we're for example trying to get away from drugs wouldn't it make sense to abstain from drug dealers and drug paraphernalia and even the drug itself??? to have a clear mind you need a clear atmosphere!!! To have a normal mentality you would need a normal setting not an abnormal one in which you keep lying in confusion and despair!!!!
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It's worked for Mike Pence - pray it away, call your wife "mother", and never let'em see you cry.
I literally almost spit out my coffee
When people’s rights are violated and 30 states have the right to enforce it. Make it make sense…
We have to love ourselves. We aren’t going to be able to be perfect. It’s just okay. Honestly, I am a single mom. My only son has struggled big time with his gender. Honestly, if I could have been a mom of twins, I would have bugged them ...both. (With the status of the only daughter, I had two brothers. ) I lost my older brother from suicide and lung cancer several years ago. It was very sad for weeks. I had Kris and he was needing his one parent. Without my older dearest brother, I was a mess! I had my parents then, plus my middle brother and his own family. (Yet , I was totally exhausted and crying. ) Since then, I can’t cry easily. Yet, I was sent to counseling and my son and I were just struggling after 9/11. We sold our house and I got more I’ll with a tumor of my face. Yup! So, but thankful for every day. I am. (In reality, we are generally not ever gonna be progressing well.. if we are not accepting of who we are.) It’s a beautiful place to be honest and accepting. Yup!
Is there a conversation therapy for racism though? 😂
No religious people only care about gay people
I'm just here for the comments
You can't pray the gay away
Becoming Born Again works. John 3
Prayer doesn't work at all
@@DumbAssSpeakingWithMansVoice if you have the intelligence of a wombat.
There are natural neurophysiological differences... To pray it away is to deny reality.
You won't deny the reality of God if you're burning in Hell 🔥🥵🔥. The only way you won't burn in Hell is if Jesus is your savior and you turn from your sins.
@@justinteehee4358Those who believe in hell can never know truth, for they are blinded by fear. The idea of hell was invented to establish a religious dictatorship and those who believe live under a tyranny far greater than any human tyrant could ever establish. They believe they are always under the eye of the tyrant! They believe their every word is recorded, their every action noted, even their innermost thoughts are known and judged by their cruel master of endless, unmerciful punishment. To such believers every act and thought is the result of fear. They are to be pitied.
@@justinteehee4358That terrible dogma of hell has destroyed the very foundations of morality. The basic force of morality is “the power of sympathy”; feeling the hurt of others-and caring. The dogma of hell has destroyed that foundation. The mother, it is believed, could sit joyfully in heaven for all eternity and watch her wayward son or daughter burning and suffering in hell.
I detest a belief that can make people so heartless. I could never be a Christian! I could never be happy in a heaven knowing there are people suffering in a hell. I have great sympathy for people, their pain, their suffering, their feelings, their losses, and their hopes.
Hell is the most unfortunate, dangerous, heinous, brutal, unimaginable, immoral, hateful, and sick idea ever conceived by the human mind. The amount of psychological damage it has caused to billions of people is incalculable. Nothing of this sort could have come from any actual god.
@@justinteehee4358 it's very nice that you read a book that you seemed to take to heart but you cannot expect anyone else to adhere to your beliefs, especially since your beliefs come from a man made book. If all people "sin" and can be forgiven of their sins than you have no reason to worry about other people and if they are sinning. Spread love or don't spread anything at all. Your bigoted ways are not what that book was trying to teach you.
Another clear case of religious hypocrisy
This is so messed up, wow :/
Not all Christians believe this the Episcopal Church which I am a member of loves the LGBT community.
@UCfGfBN9n96LgJC0sdr0SoRA God loves all his children.
@UCfGfBN9n96LgJC0sdr0SoRA Jesus said "what yo do to the least of thy you do to me". If you send a gay or trans kid to a conversation camp you are harming the least among use and you are spitting in the face of God.
@UCfGfBN9n96LgJC0sdr0SoRA If you dont like gay people just say that but don't bring God into it.
@@aarononeal9830 I said that?
@@jesuswalksonwater7095 yes the actual Jesus said that.
Mike Pence is one of the great success stories of the "pray away the gay"
Lets pray the homophobic away
I'm also a straight and heterosexual boy and man, so for me anyway, I'm not going to watch it once and for all.
That sounds like something a closeted homosexual would say.
We are leaving a life hypocrisy we fear our own people community/LGBT Medias ETC… then god, god pressure is great then a poor human being… if they cancel you god will not cancel you.
oh grow up
Cut it out immediately.
I find it silly. .! God gave us just "1" Divine gift, at birth. . That was/is the divine gift of 'Choice'.. How we journey throughout life, is that choice... Who is to say that my walk in life, is someone else's choice.. We 'need' to live better...!
'Do as thou wilt' is the devil's motto. You are very lost.
The parables require polar opposites uniting to be realized.
Judge no one.
Maybe you should read your Bible again.
*Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, expose them. - Ephesians 5:11*
@@Thyalwaysseek lol Maybe you should accept that most people don't adhere to that book you seem to obsessed over. Just because YOU like a book doesn't mean anyone else should have to read it or listen to you whine about it. Move on with your bigoted hate and learn to spread love
And GOD said JUDGE NOT !!! 🙏
Of course God says doesn’t judge! But he WILL judge sin. After all will he not bring to account every deed and idle word that has been said and done on this world?
Actually God didn't say that at all, God said you will be held to the same standard you judge others, it's about hypocrisy. In fact Jesus (Son of God) warned about sexual immorality and said it was an evil that came from within and defiled a person.
@@crystalo9489 if God judges sin than you only need to worry about YOUR sin. God doesn't want you pretending to be a false God
@@Thyalwaysseek You actually felt the need to explain that Jesus is the "son of God"? Sorry, just because your religion gives you a false sense of superiority - it does not mean anyone should ever have to listen to you or your cult beliefs
@@firstnamelastname6193 Yes I did feel the need to explain that since the majority of modern Christians have been corrupted with false teachings and believe the son is the Father.
Cool
Do you even think about the conversion therapy that's going on in the schools
GAY
You can't convert somebody, they must want to make the change in themselves and it begins by delving into what happened to them when they were younger to cause such sexual imbalance.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
I CURSE people like you.. I wish with my life that you will experience all the pain and suffering we've been through.. CURSEEEeeEe... YoUuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@terminusadquem6981 Curse me all you like, I don't care. Stop thinking with your genitals, that's your main problem.
@@Thyalwaysseek Do you realize how different your personality would change, if you had no genitailia and hormones running through your blood? No. You don't. Because, I doubt you ever passed biology 101.
@@dulynoted2427 Go crawl back into your closet.
The Opposite sex is the only way.
Best way*
Jesus is the only way.a person , a church, that can’t change our sin and our desire to sin. Only Jesus can. These church camps have nothing to do with this all. Matter of fact it doesn’t have anything to do with God
Why do you care? Because an ancient book full of lies says so? There truly is no limit to human stupidity.
Then go do you. Keep your self righteous bs to yourself.
To those struggling with same sex attraction but love God more. Our lord will reward you beyond believe.
It's natural..
The lord will reward you for being who you are and having gay sex because that’s how he created you ❤️🏳️🌈
@@PenAndSea I'm sorry. But that's not the case. Not according to the Bible.This has to be very difficult for the people struggling with it. But the Bible shows that sacrificing yourself for the love of God is what he really looks for.
@@sergiopabon1387 i believe that the Bible is a work of fiction. It was written by ppl from a long time ago and they imposed their personal views in order to control the masses. If a higher power exists, sexuality would not matter in their eyes
@@PenAndSea Read the Bible. Try to disprove it. I guarantee you won't be able to. We are not in this world for us. We were made to have free will and hopefully use that free will to love God. And if you love God more then yourself. Then deny yourself and follow God.
Try being a conservative
No... That’s the problem here
Nobody is forcing them they are choosing key word CHOOSING to go through the conversion therapy and to clarify the girls dispute if you we're for example trying to get away from drugs wouldn't it make sense to abstain from drug dealers and drug paraphernalia and even the drug itself??? to have a clear mind you need a clear atmosphere!!! To have a normal mentality you would need a normal setting not an abnormal one in which you keep lying in confusion and despair!!!!
LGBTQ Baiting...smh