HOW TO: Setup a Rescue Switch for your OMPHobby M1 or OMPHobby M2 on the Radiomaster TX16s
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มี.ค. 2021
- Jonas, from AccuRC Precision Simulation, shows us how to program a Rescue Switch for the OMPHobby M1 on the Radiomaster TX16s (will work on the M2 as well, just isn't specifically designed in this video for it).
Follow the links below for the different setup videos with Jonas! This could possibly work on other helicopters that utilize a self stabilization feature as well. Do extensive testing however as results may vary.
Check out the first setup video w/ Jonas : • Jonas from AccuRC expl...
Update Video for the Jonas Setup : • UPDATE : Jonas from Ac...
How to install the model file and get to flying : • HOW TO: Install Jonas'...
Download the Model File :
Check out Jonas' TH-cam Channel : / johnny31297
AccuRC TH-cam Channel : / @accurcflightsimulator
Jonas Flight 6000RPM : • OMPHOBBY M1 - 6000RPM ...
Jonas Flight 4500RPM : • OMPHOBBY M1 - 4500RPM ...
Jonas Recovery Video : • OMPHOBBY M1 | Custom R...
What is the OMPHobby M1? : • Video
How to adjust the flight controller : • HOW TO adjust the OMPH...
What is AccuRC? : • OMPHobby M2 is now in ...
Setup the TX16s for AccuRC : • HOW TO: Setup OpenTX R...
OMP Protocol setup with TX16s : • HOW TO Update Radiomas...
Spektrum setup : • HOW TO Setup OMPHobby ...
Do you have the OMP or SFHSS version? : • OMPHobby M1 Internal P...
Links to products in the video:
OMPHobby M1 OMP Protocol :
OMPHobby M1 SFHSS Protocol : b-rc.co/sfhss_M1
SFHSS Receiver : b-rc.co/SFHSS
Radiomaster TX16s :
Radiomaster TX16s Max : b-rc.co/tx16sMAX
AccuRC Precision Simulation : b-rc.co/AccuRC_Direct
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Brand new to hobby, just purchased omp m1 with pocket radiomaster, haven't figured it out yet...thank you much 👍🇺🇸🇨🇱🤙
Thank you TJ and Jonas. I was one of the guys asking for just how to setup this mode, without changing the rest of my setup on Tx. You are awesome in helping the community :) God Bless.
Awesome! Hope this helped clear up the how and why and if nothing else gives you a solid start on building it for your setup.
good video, thanks, it is clear with the setting, but when will there be big stunts and big handmade helicopters and quadrocopters on a channel.
@@user-dg5br2lx1k This is definitely something I want to expand to :) Hopefully this summer I can get some kind of big quad built
Much appeciated for the breakdown of how rescue mode works. Also very good for understanding OpenTX / EdgeTX in general and the more advance features and functionality of this software.
Thanks for taking the time guys, great help
Thanks for this! I tried it out today and it works great. You can simplify the implementation by setting up the additional mixes with a source of MAX instead of Coll, and then setting the Weight to be the value you were going to get from the flat pitch curve. For example, mix R0 would have a source of MAX and a weight of 0%. Mix R1 would have a source of MAX and a weight of 90%. Where it says curve just leave it at Diff 0%. Then you can get rid of the flat curves altogether.
Nice work!
Much appreciated TJ and Jonas. Great jog!!
The video is very helpful. Thanks to Jonas and TJ.🙂
Excellent video, thank you Jonas and TJ.
Thank you TJ and Jonas .
Just when i thought i was a genius at programming my Futaba transmitter this video appears... 'phew'.... great explanation from a very smart and dedicated guy. Looks like Futaba will soon be out of business with this radiomaster TX.
This really is SO awsome!! I'm using this on the M1 and M2 with a slight tweek that when I hit rescue the 0° pitch curve will only be applied if the collective is already at less than +10 positive pitch in the outputs. That way, if I hit rescue while I'm NOT inverted it won't go to 0° pitch and loose altitude before the (Rescue) positive pitch curve is appled 0.3 seconds later. I also applied the rescue function to a Blade mCPX BL2 to use the SAFE mode just like Jonas has used the Stability mode on the OMP helis, works great!! I'm new to OpenTx, but It's totally awsome!!
THIS is what I hoped this video would encourage. Show what's possible and how Jonas did it to provide a foundation to expand on and learn from. Amazing. Thanks for sharing
Amazing Jonas, thank you. You both are amazing.
Dear JONAS, thank you very much for showing us your setup. I have a TARANIS X9D + and the OMP M1 helicopter. Since your setup is very complicated and very different from what I have been using for a whole year, I bought the ACCURC simulator to test all the functions first on the simulator, and after practicing, on the real model. In ACCURC I managed to set almost all the parameters and I do simulation with the OMP M2. Unfortunately, in "FUNCTIONS" there is NO possibility of activating the "STABILIZATION" function when the value "-100" is assigned to "CHANNEL 5". So I CANNOT TEST THE "RESCUE" FUNCTION. I wrote to ADE, and he replied that it is their choice, so the model does not break on the simulator. I replied that the simulators are used to test ALL FUNCTIONS on the simulator to practice and avoid breaking the real models. While waiting for you to add the OMP M1 helicopter and make it really close to real model (accuracy), I greet you cordially.
I just set up my switch works like a charm this guy is a helicopter genius goddam
Thank you for the work done. It's great ! tell me does this work only with the Futaba protocol or can this be done in the OMP protocol? I have M2 and I work with TX16 with OMP. Thank you very much.
Thanks for this great video, very helpful. I have a Spektrum DX8 1st generation and should I also set channel 5 (rescue mode) to +100 and -100?
Amazing, thanks Jonas and TJ
Your welcome
Great thank you much. You guys rock!
I've finally finished my setup. The only thing I had to change was to reverse the value of ch5 in the mixer settings and swap the SF and SH switches. I use the spectrum satellite without switch flip on the Radiomaster.
Hello,
Thank you for great video. A couple of questions:
1. I see in AccuRC TJ's video shows to setup the momentary switch to RESCUE function, so I assume AccuRC sees that switch and does the Rescue for us. Is it possible to really let the TX16S programmed RESCUE switch (as in this video) do the rescue, so we can really test it from TX16 point of view?
2. I recently bought the M2 Explore from BuddyRC, it has a SelfLevel/3D mode (OMP receiver ch7), which is controlled by a switch. Does AccuRC allow changing this mode via the TX16 switch?
If we could simply use the same setup we have on the TX16 and just turn RF mode off, that would be awesome! Thanks again.
You guys are putting a big H into helicopters again. Thanks for the post. Will Jonas's setup with the fhss work to debug a hover in stabilitymode ? I added the satellite rx to a omp protocol m1 and seems like it won't debug a hover like the omp bind did. The opm bind cleaned itself up really well. Jonas's tune seems to slide off after I did the debug. Still like the ability to change curves even if I have to lean on the sticks a little.
Hello, I am new to both the TX (TX16S) and also the M2, so am a bit confused.
I only fly with Stunt 1 (Stunt 2 might have very little changes if at all). So, would I still need to setup all these R0, R1, etc. - or can I just get away with R1 (if I only fly on Stunt 1)?
Great video, it is just my understanding of TX16 needs to catch up ... LOL
BRILLIANT STUFF 😊
Awesome video I think I got it to work on the Eachine e160. Going to try it out tomorrow.
Is it working with e160? Thnx
@@ozrenpale5453 nope it doesn't work
Great work guys! will there be an upcoming video to fix the tail motor from spinning out when landing?
Once your skids are on the ground, you can keep it from spinning out by giving it negative collective pitch and that should hold the helicopter down to the grounds so it doesn't spend.
Hi great info thanks 🙏 would this would on the eachine e180?
Any chance of getting a guide like this for Spektrum radio setup? Been looking all over to try and figure out a rescue mode but not found anything like this for Spektrum
Impressive!
Question plz, can the spectrum transmitter do the same thing ?
hi, I followed your instruction on the m2 helicopter on TX16s. Then I tried to get to rescue mode. (the one from Jonas) But when I use that button it will not straighten up. it will turn to positive. But if it is on the side or upside down, it goes straight to the ground, I think. any advice?
Amazing
Thanks
Mine did the opposite, when I pulled rescue, the heli descends instead of climbing up. Any advice?
Well if you make more people comfortable flying so more people will be buying and more customers for parts and everything else. Great video by the way!! cheers!!
That's the plan!
will there be a new model file available with the rescue funtions included, just wondering, another great video again
This is already included in Jonas's file. This video is just for those that wanted to add it to their own model without the rest of his setup
@@BuddyRC Thank you. Really appreciate your work. Been a great help, I just wasn't sure if the rescue was included in the file as I haven't set my m2v2 up on my opentx. Been flying it off my Jeti radio
Thanks a lot for this video!
Another question: my M1 rear motor is getting hot (about 60 degrees celsius) after a few minutes of flight. Is that normal? The rear motor of my M2 stays cool!
I noticed mine gets hot as well. I did not notice any problems with the helicopter otherwise.
Adam thank you for your answer! I hope, this little motor will not die too soon 😉
Will the trannis open tx work with this heli omp v2 exp?
Can you post a video of how this Rescue Switch programing can be setup on a Spektrum receiver? Thanks.
With a Spectrum DX9 you have to : 1)create a sequence that increases the pitch after the 0,3s delay 2)insert this sequence in a mix 3) create a second mix to allow stability mode (flight mode one) to overcome the current flight mode, without delay 4) link these to mixes to the same switch. It is explained in detail by the "DX9 sequence challenge" in Helifreaks.
Will this work with the omp protocol
I followed this video and everything is working except that the rescue switch does not change the CH5 to -100.
So if I press my rescue switch it does change to 0 collective pitch and back to 80/90/100 collective pitch after 0.3 seconds but the heli does not go into self-level mode when I use the switch. My output widget on the home screen of my TX16S also does not show the -100 on CH5 when I press the switch.
Is it possible that he forgot to mention something important in this video that will make it work?
I checked all my settings again and I pretty sure I have done everything he does in this video.
Hey, can you share the setup for OMP protocol ?
Great video, but there is a caveat! How will a helicopter turn over from invert to positive and gain altitude? This is how it works in fbl IKON2 end VBAR NEO. Maybe I missed something? But I didn’t see a mix of turning a helicopter from invert to normal or does it work differently? Thanks for the help! 🤝
Thanks for watching! It actually switches in the self leveling mode which will right the helicopter and then apply positive pitch. Hope this helps
hi I have 2 questions 1) does this work with the internal OMP protocol? 2) how does this differ from the stabilization mode
The OMP Protocol was designed for their simple radio, which has simple preset idle rates for low, medium & high - but you can still program pitch rates, so yes these settings will work with the OMP protocol - but you might need to use slightly different % than shown here for each (by experimenting - or experience).
I believe the difference between rescue & stabilisation - is that rescue mode is adding some changes to pitch control in addition to righting\levelling (stabilising) the heli, that makes the correction more natural, & also damps down the pitch range to make control easier after recovery (you won't have to adjust the sticks so much).
I think another way of describing it is - stabilisation\self-levelling is a crude robotic control that is not natural - and if you're in the middle of a 3D manoevre, hitting the switch to self-level is going to be violent - partly because your stick inputs (inc pitch setting) at the time are in conflict with the heli being level. Rescue mode adds in some pitch controls to dampen that down & make the control feel more intuitive.
Greetings. This setup compared with omphobby sfhss version?
What happens to the pitching roll when you hit the rescue switch? How is that controlled?
The biggest problem here is that this Rescue is setting pitch positive, if I'm inverted it will send me to the ground. I'm implementing this to just activate the Giro and leaving the pitch as it is until a fund a way to set pitch according to the current orientation.
Watch the explanation again. The split second prior to positive pitch is neutral pitch where and when the gyro auto levels the heli and then the positive is input to make it rise from the ground. It's been tested extensively by many. 😉
@@BuddyRC oh ok I noticed that he said that but when I teste with the K110 on my hand upside-down it leveled upside-down. I will try outside with the heli way high 😄
I think I'm just used to the Accu simulator that the rescue works upside-down leveling upside-down without flipping.
Thanks for responding man, your are awesome.
I love your videos. I'm new on helis and totally addicted already lol
Oh man that would be scary. But yeah the IDEA is to self level BEFORE climbing 😂. And no problem! That's why i do what I do! I'm not the best at anything but I know people! 😂
@@BuddyRC ok I just tested on the XK k110. It doesn't flip lol it went straight to the ground 🤣 but I'm using a fiel with hay so no damages 😄😅
I guess that for this model I will just make it turn on the Giro 🙂🙃
Maybe it is too light to flip... of the Giro sets itself when upside-down as that being the correct side... I don't know.
Let me know if you find more about it. I will let you know if I have more information.
Thank you!
This is using the self level feature of the OMP M1, which can right itself when inverted. The K110 may not have the same feature (or have it on a different channel). If it does, then this setup could work on the K110, but YMMV.
Thank you for sharing. but I still have problem setting that on my TX16S Edge TX v2.8.5
what's going on with it?
@@BuddyRCsetting up the logical switches.😊
Cool thanks TJ can u set up rescue on a spretrum tx too?
So it CAAAAAN. BUT - it's just simply activating the self leveling feature, spektrum doesn't have the ability to input time delays on switch activations to achieve this same result.
It is possible indeed to set up the same features with a DX9. The solution is here www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=886059&highlight=DX9+sequencing+challenge#post8271407
Hi i have a question. I am going to fly the M1 and M2 on the NX8 with an external receiver. Can I still fly the M1 and the M2 with the TX16s later? Because I understand that the internal software of the M1 and M2 will be overwritten. Thanks
I would unplug the Spectrum receiver before flying it with the RadioMaster
@@BuddyRC Thanks
Hello
Buddy RC All your videos are awesome, unfortunately I understand the English language very poorly. I wanted to go shopping in your shop, but the shipping costs and customs fees for Switzerland are unfortunately very expensive. Is it possible to have a table for the M1 & M2's key functions? Or can someone translate it into German for me? Kind regards from little Switzerland :-)
Ooh crap, i must have missed something in the programming of this rescue mode, couse now i was just out testing my new bird m2v2 for the first time, hover inverted at like 30 feet and pulled the rescue switch, and went faast down in to the ground, so mush broken parts..
I dont know what i did wrong, i followed the video step by step.. ☹️
...just 30 feet?...ALWAYS be at least 3 mistakes high when testing new settings...in other words, gain enough altitude so that if 3 things go wrong then you have plenty of altitude to react.
Channel 5 is gyro, he renamed it rescue?
Can u do one for Spektrum ?
The M2 setup video I did for spektrum works for the M1 as well. Just make note of the pinned comment in the video
I want an M2 so bad to replace my Fusion 180 which flies super sloppy. I'll sneak an order of one when my wife is unsuspecting. I also just bought AccuRC2 to replace Phoenix Sim and I love it.
Is he flying Futaba protocol? Spektrum?
SFHSS futaba
Bro Jonas, please help how to make rescue setup on Futaba Transmitter, Danke..
Don't own a Futaba Transmitter
@@BuddyRC why ? Futaba is the best transmitter in my opinion
When you go to inputs if you have any other lines on channel 5 just make sure you 'insert before' for this line otherwise you will be stuck!! Rescue works great but it would be much better if the farmer had not just ploughed MY flying field!!!
I just added another line. When I bench tested it, the rescue worked on the collective but I noticed the gyro wasn't moving the swash plate at all. Should I go back and do as you said and 'insert before' ? Out of interest what would happen if I test flew it as is? Thanks
Can this be done with the zorro
Yes
With the Zorro don’t you have to reverse the stabiliser, as Omp different to M1 fshss protcol?👍
Omp m2 v2
Nope, I will stick with flying the helicopter out of bad situations and taking a crash as it comes. These helis are cheap to fix
Thanks for watching! Its not for everyone. 🤷♀️
@BuddyRC I'm a seasoned 3d helicopter pilot. It just seems like a lot of work for what it is. The heli is dirt cheap to fix. Good for beginners I guess