In fairness the ability to quickly gather evidence for online offences is at variance with the Digital investigation resources each Police force has. 3/6 months waiting for examination of devices is common place.
how the actual **** has he only been charged with inciting violent disorder. He literally called for murder. "Slit all their throats", along with a throat slitting hand gesture. And then called for genocide in Israel right after it.
I know its annoying but legally it has to be called violent disorder. It is calling for others to do violent acts, which is technically correct. There is no emotion allowed in the legal system it is purely a rules based system.
Why is he being charged with inciting violent disorder?? This individual was inciting murder. One carries a maximum 10yrs the other carries a maximum life sentence... two tier policing, two tier charging, two tier courts.. labour Councillor Ricky Jones should be facing a life sentence for his incitement. Bloody disgrace.
@@StillAliveAndKicking_ Pure tosh. Belfield was guilty of "pestering", nothing more, but the Establishment were out to get him. Let's hope they don't come for you or I 'cos we know what to expect.
The woman next to him was in my view the only person in that crowd who was obviously very uncomfortable when Jones said what he said, and made that gesture. The rest of the crowd roared and cheered,she didn’t, but tried to wrestle the mic away from him.
The black anti British councillor Charged and remanded until September when British people have been arrested and sentenced within a week two tiered justice in action
An Islamist attacked Jews with a big knife in a kosher supermarket in N London .His name Gabriel Abdullah a man who demanded from staff if they supported Israel. The man was given a suspended sentence a truly shocking outcome. Of course the MH card came into play. A two tier justice system
Why has the charge been downgraded from encouraging murder to encouraging violent disorder? If encouraging folk to commit mass murder than he should be charged the same as if he did the crime. It looks like Labour are protecting one of their own.
As well as the female applauder carrying the Amnesty International placard, there was a female who appeared to be somewhat in charge of microphone proceedings, and she too did not demur from Jones comments. Yet one would have hoped she ought to distance herself from such views.
He needs thoroughly investigated, friends, family business's associations, bet he associates with some potential terrorist threats. If innocent then just jail him properly in accordance with his crime
If anyone is killed or injured by an illegal immigrant who failed asylum but was not returned due to a judge blocking it, does the family have the ability to seek recourse from the home office or judiciary for failing to protect their citizens? I want to know who is ultimately liable for these decisions to not act on removing threats to our country.
Stopping export of weapons to israel in case they cause harm vs stopping importing weapons in case they cause harm. Different weapons , but still weapons. A weapon = something used to injure.
Either both should be a crime or neither, but those calling the shots want the best of both worlds. It's called Communism. The State makes the rules but doesn't have to abide by them.
Do not let your opinion be used as proof of approval for the illegal tyranny of criminalizing free expression. No one should be charged. At all. Period.
True. People on X made it impossible for the police not to take action. Still, I'll be amazed if he gets a sentence anything like the man who got 2 years for 'shouting and gesturing'.
Or maybe the law is being applied fairly.. first people are complaining he wasn’t arrested moments after speaking.. now people complain he has been. Need to get their heads checked.
@@DaveGiant You notice how none of the fine subscribers have talked about the attempted murder of human beings in migrant hotels? We're simply back to left vs right politics here and trying to burn down buildings with adults and children is simply ignored so they can complain they didn't get the Government they wanted.
@DaveGiant Come back when he's been 'delt with' . If you're correct , he should receive what ? 4 ,.5 years ? I mean if you can get 2 years for shouting at police 🤪😜 in the new North Korea , then 4/5 years seems fine for inciting murder . Oh and while we're on the subject , what about Hate not Hope's FALSE inciting of an acid attack on a muslim woman , to stir up , you know what ? Jail time ?
@@minesadab Because the MSM report the far-left as centre left now so they've become vanilla. They report what would have been the right of centre as 'far-right' (Tommy Robinson et al) and have conveniently lumped the rioters (what you may term far-right antagonists - which Tommy _is not_ ) into the same group.
Shame those fine lawyers, doctors and engineers trying to burn down hotels with asylum seekers are labelled as far right thugs. What has this country come to?
@@BrianHarbut-v5k Fair trial like the asylum seekers got in those hotels before your friends tried to murder them by incinerating the buildings? Two tier again. 🧐
Good point, pm influencing perceptions, thugs clearly, far right is not accurate, and even so - far left is just as dangerous, extreme socialism V fascism - many historical evidence both are as bad
Depends on the Judge and if he is sentenced if he will serve the time that he should... They may well make a big thing of how he is a fine upstanding member of the community that got carried away...
As a representative of Amnesty International she should have condemned it instead of pretending she didn't hear it. Thats what most sane individuals would have done. @nonono9194 but I agree that jailing the rest of the mentally ill clapping fools would be harsh.
I did notice not all of them did though -- there was a younger woman to the right of the 'Amnesty' lady who stood stock still. A thinking person maybe? Hopefully?
One who stood by him is a Amnesty International activist. When they were questioned about her , they said she's not a member just an activist. And she told them that she got distracted and wasn't really listening to Mr Jones. So why clap and smile at him. If she didn't know what he was on about ?
Let me get this right. Saying thing’s you go to prison. Walking around in a gang with knives and machetes, NOTHING. It’s certainly looking like a Two Tier system. Why can’t Two Tier Kier be charged for spreading misinformation, mistruths and outright lies to the People. Our MPs should be the last people to judge anyone, after all it’s their plan and a problem created by them. 😳
No...on his latest speech our non great leader and number one gaslighter..stasis starmer has praised communities for policing and defending themselves...now make that make sense...cos my understanding would be that defending and policing your community would be called and classed as "vigilantism"..which is illegal
How is the charge only for encouraging violent disorder and not far worse ? We all saw the video and his words and actions with the throat slitting gesture. This sort of thing is totally unacceptable , no matter who does it !
Surprise surprise!! His charge is a sick two tiered joke, it’s the lowest they could possible get away with. Disgusting. He called for the murder of people whilst gesturing slitting throats
Well Boris and hid cronies got off with murder during the pandemic making a fortune for their rich mayesYou really are showing your true olours anything but unbiased he was charged and will go to prison Disappointed in you really be better remember Tru.p has a criminal record and is standing for President @Thechatteringclasses-oj6zy
he is charged for what it is and the pre-trial preparation hearing is on the 6th September so there has been no final sentencing. “It is extremely important that there should be no reporting, commentary, or sharing of information online which could in any way prejudice these proceedings.” I'm guessing your misleading and misinformed comment is still clouded by the heavy prejudice of right wing media and your ignorant friends.
@david-z3e6w I listened to him but I don't take his advice couldn't afford it just wish he were unbiased but hey ho the yobs of society will get off as did the Tories thousands were killed due to their utter ineptitude and anyone regardless of colour or political persuasion if comment a crime should be charged oh lots of Tories walking free
Remember Gordon Brown calling that voter "an awful bigoted person." whilst still miked up clambering into the safety of the party vehicle. She'd had the audacity to ask about immigration. His response gave a telling glimpse at the mindset in Gordon and presumably others in charge. We're simply a nuisance if we don't blindly follow their plan.
@@twistedsister2568 Is it? Is it "generally the case"? Communist Russia? Communist China? Communist Venezuela? Communist North Korea? Pretty sure if you check your history books, and look at the world today, ALMOST ALL the tyranny has been at the hands of socialist despots. Even the NAZIs were socialists.
Sadly the government, judiciary and police are carelessly brewing circumstances and societal anger that may well eventually make the 'troubles' of Northern Ireland look like a pantomime.
Do you people of more tender years than myself realise, that in many years gone by the Guardian eas an excellent newspaper? It's been sad to watch it's demise!
@@eimkei1339 Difficult to say; the sub-editing and proof-reading of articles was so shockingly poor that they were - even allowing for the inherent lack of critical thinking - frequently unintelligible. It wasn't known as the Grauniad for nothing!
Yes indeed, the 1000 men who murdered a woman in kabul, filmed it, shouted Allah akbar - the handful that received light sentences- the judge said passionate about their faith - slightly different subject - but it's how they manipulate the situation
Difference is, George Floyd had a long and unpleasant criminal record and their is evidence he did not die to to police violence(watching what I type there). This is different.
If a judge can throw you in jail for 13 months and throw away the key because he feels you are in contempt of court?… No trial no lawyer, nothing. Then it has nothing to do with justice!
@@philipkay8116actually, the police didn't charge him at all. CPS recommended charges. Also policing isn't police. Police are part of policing, policing involves all criminal justice. Policing is any control over others' behavior.
Hopefully he'll be locked up, not house jail wearing a tag He deserves to be in jail , he's disgusting , full of hate , a danger to ordinary people on the street .
@@briggaskin Government means multiple things, parliament, lords parliament and the crown, the cabinet, the civil service, and the structure of all or any of these. We have a new parliament and cabinet, but I think he means all of it.
If the woman is charged with an inaccurate post..then the head of Hope not hate should be charged for the post that was fake about the woman being acid attack, which could have led to racial attack.
Serious crime act 44-46 2008 covers incitement, did he say he cut throats or you should cut throats! Might be reasonably argued he didn't incite, but he really needs a good stay at his majesty's pleasure for pure stupidity.
He did not enter a plea when he appeared at Westminster Magistrates and has been remanded in custody until 6th September, when he will appear at Crown Court. Deputy Senior District Judge Tan Ikram said: "It is alleged that using a microphone you addressed a crowd at an anti-fascist protest and, talking about others you described as 'disgusting Nazi fascists', you said 'we need to cut their throats and get rid of them'."
Why is this person not charged with Terrorist charges for insighting Murder. They charging TR and he did not call for any Murders. Why has he not been rushed through the system like others have and jailed within days
I wonder if that woman on a BBC radio show will be charged for suggesting that battery acid should be thrown over "Tories"? It might have been a tv show, can't recall.
Only fools and other charlatans but I'm beginning to think there are more of them as each day goes by. The crowds of brainwashed lefty looneys screaming for violent acts upon anyone with different views to theirs are seemingly growing larger. The planting of agents of the state within the so-called "counter protesters" to encourage more and more radical extremism is a factor.
No-one Esp not 2 tiier Keir Trust is lost in govts, doctors, scientists and authorities who locked down people in the UK and worldwide,. Rage has been building and it finally boiled over IMO the govt is to blame and police in many countries have become thugs.
So if an illegal immigrant is allowed to stay and commits an act of terrorism, under these laws the person who didn't remove this person is just as guilty. This would make the person giving any asylum seeker who's let loose in the community responsible for their actions. This seems a great idea to me.
So how many people died from hearing his comment? How many buildings were damaged? Oh that's right some snowflakes got their feewings hurt & he needs to go to prison for life.
I can't believe this country is putting people in prison for words or even sharing a video! WTAF! This country is gone! It's over! JD Vance was right we're the first Islamic country with ukes! Makes me sick!
We've had public order and malicious communications acts for decades, but it's become much more ominous since the post 9/11 climate. Labour and tories and drafted and passed several bills limiting freedom of speech.
Agreed. How people cannot see that this country is now a police state, is beyond me. The manifesto of both Reform and Labour both say that they will control and reduce immigration, yet they still have the front to say that reform are far right and racist, the left are NOT being challenged for their name calling !
This is nothing new. You have freedom of expression but you don't always have freedom from consequences. Try threatening the president in the USA and see how much the first amendment protects you.
6:18 "arrested and charged in under 48 hours", what it shows me is that they can work fast when they want to! Yet they still haven't charged those thugs who attack those armed police at Manchester Airport!
He WAS in a position of trust, but It has a much more far reaching effect. He was involved in kids groups like the scouts and sea cadets. If he gets convicted, which seems likely, then he will no longer be allowed to have any involvement with children's activities. With just a few words and in the space of a few seconds he has ruined his life, and will be barred from holding political office. All of this he now has to live with, so he will really be feeling it.
What sane person does not have contempt for British courts, I have an utter contempt for the whole British government, from the Monarch down to the lowest sanitation worker. Not a single thing will happen to him as he is part of your ruling class.
Yorkshire Rose has been arrested for telling the truth, as she seen it, she never called for violence or mass murder. Let's see how our judiciary compare one to the other, then react accordingly. We have enough martyrs already.
I've had comments deleted instantly just for explaining how or why things are happening. No swearing or threats. No incitement or prejudice. "If you want to know who rules over you, just look for who you're not allowed to criticise." Voltaire. Appreciate your insights Daniel.
So in Britain, passer-by's and those who are caught up just looking at the riots are being arrested and refused bail. According to a judge 'someone’s presence at a riot made them involved in the riot'.
Excellent, I hope he is being charged with hate speech / crime. Once convicted, I trust he will be barred from holding public office. What about the women standing beside him and cheering him on, no one is mentioning them, they were just as bad.
At least one from Amnesty International of all things who constantly rail against such actions by other groups and regimes. ! It shows how far these so-called Charities and NGO's have been infiltrated by agents with evil intent.
If someone can get 20 months in prison for a Facebook post encouraging the damage of a hotel, then what sentence should this guy receive for publicly announcing to millions on tv calling for peoples throats to be slit.
Thank you for saying the UK. I'm fed up of seeing 'England this and England that' about the current situation, when it is affecting all of us across the UK.
To you wannabe brownshirts, yes. To the normies who told you lot to take a long walk off a short pier, though, I’d say they’ve saved their homeland from the likes of you clowns. 😂
If that was Tommy Robinson on a microphone at a rally telling people to cut people's throats they'd chuck him in jail and throw away the key.
Except he would never do that
Two tier at its best
I was going to basically add the same comment!
All Tommy has to do Is pass wind and theyd arrest him!
@@Sandra-GiboraYou sound challenged!!
Well one man just got 26 months in prison for shouting and gesturing to a police officer so lets see what this Labour Councillor gets !
Womp Womp
A Peerage :)
Yes I will be interested in this case
I doubt he gets more than a few hours community service. Two tier judiciary
A pat on the back from Smarmer...
People are clapping and cheering for Violence at a Anti- violence protest 🤔
One was wearing an Amnesty International vest 😂
Haven't you heard? "Anti-violence" usually just means "no violent resistance to our violence"
What's the difference between a fascist and an anti-fascist? The only one I can work out is fascists bathe.
Only certain people
The teachers union.
If only the police investigated online child abuse with such vigor.
Not just on line!
Child abuse in the Catholic Church has been rife for years....!!
Agreed.
Don't be ridiculous. That would bring them into conflict with a certain demographic.
In fairness the ability to quickly gather evidence for online offences is at variance with the Digital investigation resources each Police force has. 3/6 months waiting for examination of devices is common place.
This Labour Councillor should get sent to prison and banned from the Labour Party for life.
That would be a shame, he has the qualities of a future Labour leader.
@@thehammer9599 - good poin, as Adolf Hitler was jailed too and look what happened to the world...
He should be banned totally from any form of political position
I would re arrange your words to form the most serious sentence possible. IE Banned from the labour party and sent to prison for life.
@@sallyyeomans3456why? He’s just parroting the party line
So they downgrade his offense,what a suprise.
Two tier justice.
Some are more equal than others
Orwell would be turning in his grave
how the actual **** has he only been charged with inciting violent disorder. He literally called for murder. "Slit all their throats", along with a throat slitting hand gesture. And then called for genocide in Israel right after it.
Two Tier yet again
@@Jaygraterthanyou Two Tier or racist?
Left wing activists are typically both.
Put a space between * * * * if you want the correct number 😉
I know its annoying but legally it has to be called violent disorder. It is calling for others to do violent acts, which is technically correct. There is no emotion allowed in the legal system it is purely a rules based system.
Why is he being charged with inciting violent disorder?? This individual was inciting murder. One carries a maximum 10yrs the other carries a maximum life sentence... two tier policing, two tier charging, two tier courts.. labour Councillor Ricky Jones should be facing a life sentence for his incitement. Bloody disgrace.
In my opinion he should have been charged under the Terrorism act.
Pretty obvious why.
@@ElgarLyour opinion matters nothing, the law is the law
Careful buddie you'll get a visit from the tweet police.
???? Why this charge? Surely it's more serious.
It's kind of ironic, that one of the first people to be arrested under Starmer's new rules, is one of his own councillors.
Says it all surrounded by communists & Hamas supporters..go figure.
Nope he was arrested under old rules. He would have been pardoned u der the new rules because of his side of the predicament.
These rules came under tory government. They're both snakes
Alex Belfield got 5 years for nothing really. That councillor was calling for murder in a most graphic way. 😮
He deserves much longer than 5 years.
Lol get reported for contempt of court 👋🏻
He even specified HOW he wanted it done.
You didn’t do any research into the Belfield trial did you? Harassment over countless years including incitement to hatred is a serious crime.
@@StillAliveAndKicking_ Pure tosh. Belfield was guilty of "pestering", nothing more, but the Establishment were out to get him. Let's hope they don't come for you or I 'cos we know what to expect.
@@christopherfitzgerald774 he did a lot more than “pester” people.
Have the men who violently attacked the armed police officers in Manchester Airport more than two weeks ago been charged?
`they are still investigating 🙄. I wonder if that is code for ignoring it until the general public forgets it?
Lol, lmao!
so basically he committed one very serious offence and he has been charged with something minor instead. What a shock!
The woman in orange who cheered amongside him should also be arrested.
The other women had a amnesty fluorescent bib on as well 😮
Pretending they did not hear lol
Lefty snakes 🐍 🐍
Yep, she as good as re tweeted it.
The woman next to him was in my view the only person in that crowd who was obviously very uncomfortable when Jones said what he said, and made that gesture. The rest of the crowd roared and cheered,she didn’t, but tried to wrestle the mic away from him.
100% correct. She looked to be a particularly vile individual
You can say whatever you want as long as it doesn't mean anything or upset anything, which means that people are free only to say nothing.
The black anti British councillor Charged and remanded until September when British people have been arrested and sentenced within a week two tiered justice in action
Is he remanded?
people who were sentenced in a short time pleaded guilty. this guy must want a trial.
Numbers of people involved, likelihood of re-offending or further offending by others.
As the defendant has pleaded not guilty, therefore it has to go to trial, the others pleaded guilty, so no trial required !
I don't think he was remanded, but it was adjourned
An Islamist attacked Jews with a big knife in a kosher supermarket in N London .His name Gabriel Abdullah a man who demanded from staff if they supported Israel. The man was given a suspended sentence a truly shocking outcome. Of course the MH card came into play. A two tier justice system
😮😮😮😮
You can commit crimes just don't talk abou them...
True I was shocked by that and the often used 'mental illness ' excuse
How can he call for people to be murdered and even specify how that should be done, and yet be charged with something seemingly less serious?
Why has the charge been downgraded from encouraging murder to encouraging violent disorder? If encouraging folk to commit mass murder than he should be charged the same as if he did the crime.
It looks like Labour are protecting one of their own.
Imo, it was done to antagonize the situation. They want a response.
The fact he said “fascists” implies a political motivation also, which could change the charge to encouraging terrorism.
The method he advocated has a certain religious overtone.
This is nothing to do with two tier policing, and I am a cheese sandwich.
@@feliksj.kwiatkowski2935 Polish cheese?
I see that he's been charged with encouraging violent disorder, a far lesser charge than the obvious and accurate, encouraging to commit murder.
Yes, but the nature and extent of violence he encouraged, still amounts to a call for mass murder.
As well as the female applauder carrying the Amnesty International placard, there was a female who appeared to be somewhat in charge of microphone proceedings, and she too did not demur from Jones comments. Yet one would have hoped she ought to distance herself from such views.
@@henryb160 I'm glad you agree with me.
Wonderful he's been charged. Now arrest and charge his applauding goons for encouraging racial hatred.
They've already downgraded the charges.
Joint enterprise old chap. They are equally culpable.
100% agree
What sentence should people who tried to burn down a building with people in it get?
@@AM2K2 The same sentence the thug should get for inciting murder.
Deplorable…sickening a disgrace to the Labour Party and our country…..sack this person .
the labour party is a disgrace
They suspended him. Probably pending the outcome of the investigation.
He follows the same beliefs as the labour party the only difference is he said it on camera.
Starma is a dictator and his proven that fact
Sack him and jail him !! And that is followed by a full stop .! End of story
labour Councillor Ricky Jones should get a life sentence for his incitement. Bloody disgrace.
Well, he won’t 🤷🏻♂️
And I bet he doesn’t even get jail
He needs thoroughly investigated, friends, family business's associations, bet he associates with some potential terrorist threats. If innocent then just jail him properly in accordance with his crime
If anyone is killed or injured by an illegal immigrant who failed asylum but was not returned due to a judge blocking it, does the family have the ability to seek recourse from the home office or judiciary for failing to protect their citizens? I want to know who is ultimately liable for these decisions to not act on removing threats to our country.
Judges have personal immunity when acting on behalf of the law. You'd probably have to sue the government, which is very difficult.
Google Starmer and his role in protecting those who architected genocide.
They all got immunity..
No one is liable for them. That's the problem.
Stopping export of weapons to israel in case they cause harm vs stopping importing weapons in case they cause harm. Different weapons , but still weapons. A weapon = something used to injure.
Those cheering and applauding his statement should also be charged.
Just as liking the wrong tweet can be illegal.
Either both should be a crime or neither, but those calling the shots want the best of both worlds. It's called Communism. The State makes the rules but doesn't have to abide by them.
Well at least in the UK it seems…
Do not let your opinion be used as proof of approval for the illegal tyranny of criminalizing free expression. No one should be charged. At all. Period.
@@gorkyd7912 Fair point.
Its just getting totally and utterly stupid, its getting closer to 1984 each day
Was you born before 1984? Is so do you understand why we are called upon to speak our truths ❤
@@blg39 Huh?????
🤔
@blg39 1984 is a book written by George Orwell predicting that this would happen. Please educate yourself.
@@blg39 have you heard about George Orwells book called "1984"?. That's what this person is talking about, not his birthday 😂
This guy is only being prosecuted because it cannot be ignored.
True. People on X made it impossible for the police not to take action. Still, I'll be amazed if he gets a sentence anything like the man who got 2 years for 'shouting and gesturing'.
Or maybe the law is being applied fairly.. first people are complaining he wasn’t arrested moments after speaking.. now people complain he has been. Need to get their heads checked.
He's only being 'prosecuted' because of FREEDOM of social media ! Stalin Starmer , Commie Cooper and chums want to stop that !
@@DaveGiant You notice how none of the fine subscribers have talked about the attempted murder of human beings in migrant hotels? We're simply back to left vs right politics here and trying to burn down buildings with adults and children is simply ignored so they can complain they didn't get the Government they wanted.
@DaveGiant Come back when he's been 'delt with' . If you're correct , he should receive what ? 4 ,.5 years ? I mean if you can get 2 years for shouting at police 🤪😜 in the new North Korea , then 4/5 years seems fine for inciting murder . Oh and while we're on the subject , what about Hate not Hope's FALSE inciting of an acid attack on a muslim woman , to stir up , you know what ? Jail time ?
He was insighting mass murder and should be charged accordingly!
Is labelling someone Far Right without evidence discrimination? I suspect it is Mr Starmer.
Then labelling someone far left would surely be too?
Labels can be correct or not though
What's wrong with being far right anyway?
Which also encourages violence (and indeed violence was committed) towards white people because of course only white people are far right.
@@minesadab Because the MSM report the far-left as centre left now so they've become vanilla. They report what would have been the right of centre as 'far-right' (Tommy Robinson et al) and have conveniently lumped the rioters (what you may term far-right antagonists - which Tommy _is not_ ) into the same group.
He clearly made an outrageous comment, clearly encouraged murder. What about the crowd who applauded. Surely that is also a crime????
Well, to re-tweet a comment can be a crime apparently.
@@beastieboy3926 actually breathing is a crime if big brother kier says so.
@@NickBramwell Silent prayer is a crime in some places, love to know how you can prove someone is doing a silent prayer...
@@NickBramwell
You do realise it was Cruella Braveman's law you're complaining about, yes?
@@ianl1052 And what does it matter who had a bad idea?
The councillor should be tried and sent to prison within days, just like all the other British Citizens that are. His offence was a lot worse.
Apparently he plead not guilty... Maybe Mr BB can make sense of it for us.
Strange how the PM can call people far right thugs before they're even arrested or charged. Do they not have the right to a fair trial?
What gave you that idea?
Shame those fine lawyers, doctors and engineers trying to burn down hotels with asylum seekers are labelled as far right thugs.
What has this country come to?
Good point! 2 tier again! 😡
@@BrianHarbut-v5k Fair trial like the asylum seekers got in those hotels before your friends tried to murder them by incinerating the buildings?
Two tier again. 🧐
Good point, pm influencing perceptions, thugs clearly, far right is not accurate, and even so - far left is just as dangerous, extreme socialism V fascism - many historical evidence both are as bad
This charge and possible sentence will prove either way if there really is a two tier justice system.
They may throw him under the bus to try and cool the tension.
clever
Grow up and engage your brain.
He'll be used as a scapegoat as 'proof'.
Depends on the Judge and if he is sentenced if he will serve the time that he should... They may well make a big thing of how he is a fine upstanding member of the community that got carried away...
How did we end up being silence by our own government with the threat of jail
Everyone around him clapping ( mainly women) should face prison time as well as that is encouragement for people to go out and do it.
Women supported trans rights too and then suffered in sport.
JK Rowling, (the heroine) used to put her energy into man hatred btw.
You are correct. It's called joint enterprise.
I bet they are crapping themselves lol.
As a representative of Amnesty International she should have condemned it instead of pretending she didn't hear it. Thats what most sane individuals would have done. @nonono9194 but I agree that jailing the rest of the mentally ill clapping fools would be harsh.
I did notice not all of them did though -- there was a younger woman to the right of the 'Amnesty' lady who stood stock still. A thinking person maybe? Hopefully?
2023: Russia arrested 402 people for comments on social media!
2023: Gt. Britain arrested 3737 people for comments on social media!
Russia tolerates hate speech. That being said some of them will be stupid.
No shits given, RUSSIA is not my home!
dread to think how much higher it is this year.
People might have to apply for Asylum in Russia the way the UK is going. One thing's for sure, Labour will be out of office next general election.
That's got to be absolute bullshit. Where did you get those numbers? 😂
If those numbers are genuine I am making plans to leave. Ridiculous if it is.
We really need an update on this case let’s not let them throw it under the rug, we need fairness….
It's already not fair, it's been days and he's not been sentenced, his charge was downgraded. Because he's brown.
I think those who cheered his words should also be charged with insightment
Check your spelling please. Incite. Not insight.
@@Her.Serene.Feline.Cuteness. Get a life.
@@richardballinger517 You first. 🤫
@@richardballinger517 Look in the mirror.
One who stood by him is a Amnesty International activist. When they were questioned about her , they said she's not a member just an activist. And she told them that she got distracted and wasn't really listening to Mr Jones. So why clap and smile at him. If she didn't know what he was on about ?
If he isn't jailed,, THERE'S GONNA BE TROUBLE 🏴🏴🇮🇪🇬🇧
He will, maybe for a month
Didn't you prove on Wednesday that you're incapable of threatening anyone lmfao
@@Sankara561Hope not Hate have admitted that the '100 riots' post was a hoax.
Have you not listened to the video suggesting that you do NOT start more riots.
@@Sankara561they were all at work, paying for an illegal invasion.
He has been remanded into custody until September 8th so he is already behind bars. He is looking at 5 years maximum.
Yes please …
Let me get this right. Saying thing’s you go to prison. Walking around in a gang with knives and machetes, NOTHING. It’s certainly looking like a Two Tier system. Why can’t Two Tier Kier be charged for spreading misinformation, mistruths and outright lies to the People. Our MPs should be the last people to judge anyone, after all it’s their plan and a problem created by them. 😳
No...on his latest speech our non great leader and number one gaslighter..stasis starmer has praised communities for policing and defending themselves...now make that make sense...cos my understanding would be that defending and policing your community would be called and classed as "vigilantism"..which is illegal
This is all backwards, no wonder people are angry and confused
If you're not Labour-you are FAR Right. If you speak up against what some imports are doing criminally, you are FAR RIGHT.
How is the charge only for encouraging violent disorder and not far worse ? We all saw the video and his words and actions with the throat slitting gesture. This sort of thing is totally unacceptable , no matter who does it !
Keep the pressure up on your authorities, people! I'm watching with bated breath from Canada.
Remanded in custody
He incited MURDER not violent disorder
That's not an actual charge though.
Surprise surprise!! His charge is a sick two tiered joke, it’s the lowest they could possible get away with. Disgusting.
He called for the murder of people whilst gesturing slitting throats
REFERENDUM on MASS IMMIGRATION
Let’s hope some of his more disturbed followers don’t fall for his persuasion. Sounded like do as I say, not as I do.
Well Boris and hid cronies got off with murder during the pandemic making a fortune for their rich mayesYou really are showing your true olours anything but unbiased he was charged and will go to prison Disappointed in you really be better remember Tru.p has a criminal record and is standing for President @Thechatteringclasses-oj6zy
he is charged for what it is and the pre-trial preparation hearing is on the 6th September so there has been no final sentencing. “It is extremely important that there should be no reporting, commentary, or sharing of information online which could in any way prejudice these proceedings.” I'm guessing your misleading and misinformed comment is still clouded by the heavy prejudice of right wing media and your ignorant friends.
@david-z3e6w I listened to him but I don't take his advice couldn't afford it just wish he were unbiased but hey ho the yobs of society will get off as did the Tories thousands were killed due to their utter ineptitude and anyone regardless of colour or political persuasion if comment a crime should be charged oh lots of Tories walking free
Remember Gordon Brown calling that voter "an awful bigoted person." whilst still miked up clambering into the safety of the party vehicle. She'd had the audacity to ask about immigration. His response gave a telling glimpse at the mindset in Gordon and presumably others in charge. We're simply a nuisance if we don't blindly follow their plan.
Everyone else who cheered in the video when he said that should all be identified and charged with incitement too.
Absolutely. It's joint enterprise.
He thought the tyranny only applied to the 'right '. Dystopia affects everyone.
1984 was about left wing authoritarian.
You can’t really blame him for making that assumption. It generally is the case.
@@twistedsister2568 Is it? Is it "generally the case"?
Communist Russia? Communist China? Communist Venezuela? Communist North Korea?
Pretty sure if you check your history books, and look at the world today, ALMOST ALL the tyranny has been at the hands of socialist despots. Even the NAZIs were socialists.
Sadly the government, judiciary and police are carelessly brewing circumstances and societal anger that may well eventually make the 'troubles' of Northern Ireland look like a pantomime.
he is correct he was only arrested because they were forced to look how many others go un arrested
If the law is equal WHY? do they always deny TOMMY ROBINSON justice by having a jury?
The Guardian described the BLM riots as "passionate-protests". That's how I'm describing whats been taking place .
Do you people of more tender years than myself realise, that in many years gone by the Guardian eas an excellent newspaper? It's been sad to watch it's demise!
@@eimkei1339 Difficult to say; the sub-editing and proof-reading of articles was so shockingly poor that they were - even allowing for the inherent lack of critical thinking - frequently unintelligible. It wasn't known as the Grauniad for nothing!
Yes indeed, the 1000 men who murdered a woman in kabul, filmed it, shouted Allah akbar - the handful that received light sentences- the judge said passionate about their faith - slightly different subject - but it's how they manipulate the situation
Difference is, George Floyd had a long and unpleasant criminal record and their is evidence he did not die to to police violence(watching what I type there). This is different.
I agree with that
lets see if he gets fast tracked through the courts like the other side!!
He is appearing tomorrow.
So not fast tracked considering the charges that have apparently been charg3d against him
@@smokemeakipper1076; Only at magistrates court. Will it be referred to Crown?
We shall see.
@@met54 How did the patriots who struck police get over 3 years without going to a crown court?
@@smokemeakipper1076 I heard this afternoon
If a judge can throw you in jail for 13 months and throw away the key because he feels you are in contempt of court?…
No trial no lawyer, nothing.
Then it has nothing to do with justice!
Outright shocking and unbelievable
A massively downgraded charge. Yet again we have two-tier policing rubbed in our face while overlrod Starmer tells us not to believe our lying eyes.
The CPS is not the police.
@@philipkay8116actually, the police didn't charge him at all. CPS recommended charges.
Also policing isn't police. Police are part of policing, policing involves all criminal justice. Policing is any control over others' behavior.
Ridiculous law, the public should be able to discuss anything and we will.
Hopefully he'll be locked up, not house jail wearing a tag
He deserves to be in jail , he's disgusting , full of hate , a danger to ordinary people on the street .
We seriously need a new government
We've got one.... we need a miracle at the moment
@@briggaskin no, I'm talking rebuild it from the ground up, completely new.
it takes more than four weeks to fix the mess.
@@briggaskin Government means multiple things, parliament, lords parliament and the crown, the cabinet, the civil service, and the structure of all or any of these.
We have a new parliament and cabinet, but I think he means all of it.
@mandowarrior123 yeah of course you are correct. God help us though
If the woman is charged with an inaccurate post..then the head of Hope not hate should be charged for the post that was fake about the woman being acid attack, which could have led to racial attack.
Could Starmer blaming everything on the "far right", whoever they are, be considered publication of inaccurate information?
Or at least slander and hate speech
"Encouraging violent disorder?" Sounded like incitement for mass murder 🤔
Idk the implication was all local 7 year old girls have it coming in context, terror charges at least.
Why isn't he being charged with incitement to commit murder? Why isn't he in the cells? And will he be remanded in custody?
Probably on bail
Serious crime act 44-46 2008 covers incitement, did he say he cut throats or you should cut throats! Might be reasonably argued he didn't incite, but he really needs a good stay at his majesty's pleasure for pure stupidity.
He did not enter a plea when he appeared at Westminster Magistrates and has been remanded in custody until 6th September, when he will appear at Crown Court. Deputy Senior District Judge Tan Ikram said: "It is alleged that using a microphone you addressed a crowd at an anti-fascist protest and, talking about others you described as 'disgusting Nazi fascists', you said 'we need to cut their throats and get rid of them'."
I read that he has been remanded until September
Remanded in custody until trial on Sep 6th
I haven't seen this working for bullying among our children. Nothing gets done.
Stand up people!!! 🇬🇧🏴🇮🇪🏴🏴
“It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.”
Exactly
Double plus good.
Yeah
It's always a dangerous game with tyranny when the fundamental rights of an individual are qualified by restrictions "for the greater good".
2 space aliens are talking to each other...
1 says"What are you watching?"
The other says "Earth, this season is freaking mental!"
Brilliant 😂😂😂😂😂
It should be The other says Earth, the script writers have really gone down hill though, it’s getting to unbelievable
😅🎉
Our illustrious leaders haven't said one word about this, even before he was arrested.
Will the people in the protest who were clapping and cheering in agreement also be arrested..? they offended millions of people as well 🏴🤍🇬🇧
Telling truth should not be criminalised
Why is this person not charged with Terrorist charges for insighting Murder. They charging TR and he did not call for any Murders. Why has he not been rushed through the system like others have and jailed within days
I wonder if that woman on a BBC radio show will be charged for suggesting that battery acid should be thrown over "Tories"? It might have been a tv show, can't recall.
This world is sick! Who trusts any government dept.?
Only fools and other charlatans but I'm beginning to think there are more of them as each day goes by. The crowds of brainwashed lefty looneys screaming for violent acts upon anyone with different views to theirs are seemingly growing larger. The planting of agents of the state within the so-called "counter protesters" to encourage more and more radical extremism is a factor.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the world 🌎 Human beings however are very sick 🤡
No-one Esp not 2 tiier Keir Trust is lost in govts, doctors, scientists and authorities who locked down people in the UK and worldwide,. Rage has been building and it finally boiled over IMO the govt is to blame and police in many countries have become thugs.
Born in the UK=Guilty
Respect the national flag =Guilty
Respect freedom of speech =Guilty
If they let this man off then all the people interned in jail for voicing their option should be released
Instant jail, set an example that not even councillors can get away with this type of behaviour
Can starmer as the boss of labour be charged jointly and severally ? Asking for my lawyer
Starmer: "The full farce of my Law!"
Why do you watch a TH-camr who is a barrister and not listen to a single word he says? We are a democracy not a totalitarian state.
So if an illegal immigrant is allowed to stay and commits an act of terrorism, under these laws the person who didn't remove this person is just as guilty. This would make the person giving any asylum seeker who's let loose in the community responsible for their actions. This seems a great idea to me.
An illegal immigrant can't by definition be allowed to stay. What are you on about?
He should get 10 years if it's comparable to the other sentences
He should get life in prison that was no different than a terror attack
So how many people died from hearing his comment? How many buildings were damaged? Oh that's right some snowflakes got their feewings hurt & he needs to go to prison for life.
His speech has left me terrified!! I am an OAP and never encountered anything like this in my life!!
@@susanalderson8267 the last person in England to be hung said, "let him have it". Haven't heard the full speech but there is a precedence.
How many people died from a FB post? From handing out ice cream? What a stupid thing to say.@susanalderson8267
@@nizvizSettle down, Che. You clowns are malding over Fauxrage not getting the PM job, after all. 🥱
I can't believe this country is putting people in prison for words or even sharing a video! WTAF! This country is gone! It's over! JD Vance was right we're the first Islamic country with ukes! Makes me sick!
What are you in for, saying words. Meanwhile you see a rapist leave the building
Pakistan has nukes
@@sirharryflashman3064 And France
@Bill32H-it3sv which let's Trump say the most insulting and dangerous things.
We've had public order and malicious communications acts for decades, but it's become much more ominous since the post 9/11 climate.
Labour and tories and drafted and passed several bills limiting freedom of speech.
Why has this guy not been put in prison through operation early dawn? Absolutely disgusting. He should be in prison.
The State should NOT be able to control what when and when we speak about
CENSORSHIP. Total and utter. Police State.
Agreed. How people cannot see that this country is now a police state, is beyond me. The manifesto of both Reform and Labour both say that they will control and reduce immigration, yet they still have the front to say that reform are far right and racist, the left are NOT being challenged for their name calling !
Marxism at its best. Orwell predicted it and we are living it.
This is nothing new. You have freedom of expression but you don't always have freedom from consequences. Try threatening the president in the USA and see how much the first amendment protects you.
He,s pleaded not guilty, unbelievable
6:18 "arrested and charged in under 48 hours", what it shows me is that they can work fast when they want to! Yet they still haven't charged those thugs who attack those armed police at Manchester Airport!
He should have the book thrown at him, it’s far worse as he’s in a position of trust and authority.
He WAS in a position of trust, but It has a much more far reaching effect. He was involved in kids groups like the scouts and sea cadets. If he gets convicted, which seems likely, then he will no longer be allowed to have any involvement with children's activities. With just a few words and in the space of a few seconds he has ruined his life, and will be barred from holding political office. All of this he now has to live with, so he will really be feeling it.
Exactly
He shouldn't be anywhere near children, I hope the authorities check his hard drives and electronic devices.
What sane person does not have contempt for British courts, I have an utter contempt for the whole British government, from the Monarch down to the lowest sanitation worker. Not a single thing will happen to him as he is part of your ruling class.
I'm so he should be charged, the man is a disgrace Mr B.🙄
Yorkshire Rose has been arrested for telling the truth, as she seen it, she never called for violence or mass murder.
Let's see how our judiciary compare one to the other, then react accordingly. We have enough martyrs already.
b
Brilliant👍, you really are a piece of humanity that has lost...
Do people realise the effect of a criminal record? Employment, foreign travel, credit rating and so on?
I've had comments deleted instantly just for explaining how or why things are happening.
No swearing or threats. No incitement or prejudice.
"If you want to know who rules over you, just look for who you're not allowed to criticise."
Voltaire.
Appreciate your insights Daniel.
TH-cam does that, not the individual creators. TH-cam's auto moderation algorithim is a bit ridiculous, there's no telling what words will set it off.
@@DJCallidus welcome to the club
We must rise up against children with lukemia
@@graywolf6498 Me too
Same
With him being a councillor, he should have the book thrown at him.
I'm still in shock from his words
So in Britain, passer-by's and those who are caught up just looking at the riots are being arrested and refused bail. According to a judge 'someone’s presence at a riot made them involved in the riot'.
Most people were peacefully protesting, small minority who was rioting
I will be very very shocked if a prosecution actually takes place I forsee some legal moves to have this case dismissed by the back door.
Explain.
Herr starmer has a bit of a track record of refusing to prosecute
Don't say that, I'm still shaking from what he said
I hadn’t realised this guy was a Labour councillor! It just shows us what can happen when you vote according to party lines.
'Some animals are more equal than others.'
I wonder how many years Orwell would get today, under the new regime?
Excellent, I hope he is being charged with hate speech / crime. Once convicted, I trust he will be barred from holding public office. What about the women standing beside him and cheering him on, no one is mentioning them, they were just as bad.
At least one from Amnesty International of all things who constantly rail against such actions by other groups and regimes. ! It shows how far these so-called Charities and NGO's have been infiltrated by agents with evil intent.
Strange how Tommy Robinson doesn't have the right to a fair trial, he has a judge and straight to jail.
How about swiftly bringing to court the two males who attacked 3 members of the police force at Manchester airport?
So many laws to repress free speech...... coming up with this garbage is what parliament does all day
charged he should be starting a 5 year sentence
More, a bloke got 3 for just shouting at police. Double figures imo and not beginning with a 1.
If someone can get 20 months in prison for a Facebook post encouraging the damage of a hotel, then what sentence should this guy receive for publicly announcing to millions on tv calling for peoples throats to be slit.
Both should get exactly the same amount. Zero. None.
@@gorkyd7912 nothing for a Councillor advocating murder of thousands of people?
The UK is currently LOST!
Thank you for saying the UK. I'm fed up of seeing 'England this and England that' about the current situation, when it is affecting all of us across the UK.
To you wannabe brownshirts, yes. To the normies who told you lot to take a long walk off a short pier, though, I’d say they’ve saved their homeland from the likes of you clowns. 😂
The problem is that it will never be found again. It is no longer united in any way.
Not quite yet, but if starmer goes ahead uncheck on his one man cursade then it may well be.
@@Thurgosh_OG
Are there protests in Scotland?