Police Threats for "UNKIND words" an Abuse of power?
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- Note: I don't support unkind or derogatory comments against the police, but this comes close to inaccurate threats of prosecution!
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Pathetic policing. No cop thirty years ago would have any truck with all this childish nonsense.
Childish is exactly right. The public is being treated like naughty primary school children by a strict Headteacher. Enough of this madness!
The average canteen banter and flirting from those days is now considered some kind of moral threat requiring incarceration.
@@BlackGriffin195 I speak to old skool coppers regularly, & they're as dismayed as the rest of us
Over reach ...they can perform mental gymnastics to slam some with charges but ignore actual offences
"I am supportive of the police...'
I try to be but man its getting harder and harder to not distrust a word they say as of late.
It’s the people who react to words with violence who should be arrested not the people talking.
That applies in the sensible alternate universe.
They are both crimes, just the latter gets you longer.
Take care M.
And the police wonder why public respect for them is rapidly declining
We are getting more like North Korea every day.
All we are told about North Korea is told to us by the same ones who lie to us day after day after day about almost everything. But yeah I get your meaning
The idea is to intimidate.....
But it was fine for The prime minister to refer to EVERYONE in the protests/ rioting as THUGS !!
We can lead a horse to water, but we can't make it drink it !! That's upto the horses!!
Surely throwing lumps of cement at someone has got to be worse than shouting at someone
It probably depends who you're throwing concrete at and who you're shouting at 🤔
Or whether the police consider you to be Right or Left Wing
A guy I know got 2years borstal training in his youth for throwing an orange in a crowded place 😳
not in the eyes of the Police
I never voted reform but you are correct makes me sick divvy throwing things farage has a right as he is a politician .
Do you all understand what is going on now? Wake up, everyone! This is ABSURD. Whatever happened to “sticks and stones”?
they got replaced with machetes and screaming about hawaiian cafes
Blackbelt needs to lose a belt or too. Harmful but legal? What does that mean? We have been sold out by all of the politicians, while they have actively kept us in the E.U, And supported a war no one signed up for.
@@r.bellbottom8964 we enacted legislation (quite some time ago) to criminalise ‘words’ that cause people significant harm and that encourage others to cause harm. If you think you have always had ‘freedom of speech’ in the UK, you haven’t been keeping up to date on the legislative framework in the UK
Sticks and stones are now legal
This is what happens when weak people who think words are violence get in power. Usually middle class. Theyve had everything given on a silver platter all their life, never had a struggle and find their life devoid of meaning and purpose
Five coppers to arrest a retweeting pensioner but you try getting any interest when you’ve been burgled!
Being burgled will mean they will have to do work and they can't have that.
That is what boggles the mind. Actual crimes in my area is not investigated - ever. The most you will get is a police reference number. But “post” something that someone finds offensive and you risk getting 4 police officers turning up to interrogate and possibly arrest you. I’ve made jokes in our community groups what if youre ever being burgled its better to quickly post something offensive online with your post code and door number and the police will be at your door in less than 10 minutes.
Demand that SOCO attends if that works.
You get a crime number for insurance.
Crime fuels the economy
I was hurt when StormTrooper labeled me FAR RIGHT. I'm not FR and offended, what are my rights to have Storm Trooper locked up??
Defamation of Character is still covered by the Laws of the UK.
It was also spread my the media, breach of sec. 127 of the communications act.
Justice in this country is no longer available via the Court system, as your rights against Storm Trooper will probably cost you £250,000 in egal fees. Yes, a friend of mine had to spend £300,000 in legal fees to be found "not guilty"
@anthonymoody4477 You pays your money....
While real violent criminals are released to commit crime
By accident?
Exactly what Stalin did
Or not even prosecuted
Well yeah, because for 14 years Tory governments allowed the prisons to become full to capacity. One of the reasons they got the boot.
@@crazyralph6386Exactly, Bolsheviks did this 100 years ago, there are too many parallels with the Soviets to come to any other conclusion other than they are using the same playbook
The Police have a difficult job to do,....................so they don't do it, and prefer to just pick the low-hanging fruit.
Mostly they pick their nose.
@@Equiluxe1 Or wedgies from their cellulite arses.
Yes you are aeasier to arrest and their wont be civil disorder if they do.
Think about what caused recent issues.
Take care M.
Cowards spring to mind
They just nick easy prey to fill their quota😂😅
So basically, anyone who disagrees with Starmer's policies can be arrested, but his allies can wave machetes with impunity 🤔.
No, that is not the case. We as a people of this country have every right to disagree with his policies, we do not have to like them. This is a simple bit of research I just did. "Policies operate on a voluntary basis, lacking legal force. Laws, on the other hand, are legally binding and mandatory." No one can be arrested for not liking something Starmer or the Labour Government has said or done, we are NOT breaking any Laws with regards to that, that is called an Opinion, which is a Freedom of Expression, you are expressing a point of view you don't like. As long as you DO NOT make any direct threat to the Government or the party running it, then you, I and anyone else is free to say what we need to, as long as it does not breach what the LAW says. That is the important thing, following the Law.
You can rip someone to bits verbally, as long as you do it nicely and within the stated Laws of the Country. Read up and understand the relevant laws with regards to something someone may want to say, it can be done in the nicest written way possible, but still take them down a strip or three. It's context and how something is worded that makes all the difference.
If you said you wanted to go "Guy Fawkes" on Parliament, that is a direct threat (said for context and example). Can you see, something that was actually planned and almost happened, how it constitutes the actual threat, compared to simply disagreeing with Government Policies etc.
@@bravobr9725 so are you saying to the op above they waived machetes nicely? There is no waving machete nicely legal grey area…
@@stephenfanthorpe2708 - NO, with respect, don't play silly sods here ! That is not what I am saying, at all. A Machete is an illegal weapon, so if you are caught with one, your screwed ! What are you not understanding with what I have said above ?
If you don't get that things can be done or said within the Law to avoid being arrested, then ask ! It's called context and content.
Where as if you threaten to take someone's life or liberty and it's caught on camera etc, then again, you are screwed. You are doing things within the bounds of the Law one way and completely ignoring the Law the other way. What can't you see is the difference ?
@@bravobr9725 you completely avoided the actual statement, the machete possession and let off incidents happened whilst people were being and are being arrested for sharing the opinions of others of offering officers ice creams.
@@bravobr9725 You need to catch up a bit, there is a great deal of evidence (filmed on phones) showing people doing exactly that in front of the police and no action taken at the time, nor afterwards. So your arguments are based on a lack of knowledge as to what really happens.
Where are the civil and human rights lawyers who should be outraged by the inappropriate use of power to silence people?
Most lawyers are leftist commies cheering on the destruction of individual liberty and helping usher in totalitarianism
they were the first ones to be silenced
Starmer is a Human Rights Lawyer.
No money in it!
They joined them in covid
Starmer has become a dictator. We’d be better off without him.
Starmer is a puppet. Your enemy is the puppetmasters who pull his strings
@@MrRugbylane He's a big fan of the WEF, so it's Klaus Schwab (to no-one's surprise). People forget that King Charles stood at a WEF podium, at Davos in June 2020, and announced "the great reset has been launched!"
Did people think that had just quietly gone away? This is just another step towards our "rights" being taken away, piece by piece.
@@Great_Watt Charles wanting to be King of the World
has become?
already was and the people are too witless to understand what to do, they just run back and forth down a hallway that has 2 doors and both have monsters behind them
ok actually there are other doors but your population is convinced there are only two reasonable choices
in the future dont call your parties things like "reform" or anything else that sounds like drastic change, as the very people you want to convince absolutely hate change
thats why they keep voting for the same two parties even when theres a scary ass monster at the door, they still believe its going to bring about what they are used to
Hé should imho bé sectioned as a psychopath
Starmer upset vaste swathes of this country calling people hard right thugs - when’s the arrest ?
I consider starmer a threat to the UK and the police are his henchmen. I've lost any respect I ever had for them.
It's not called cobra 🐍 for nothing, the Spanner the Cobra commander
I was born in communist Yugoslavia. Under tyrant Tito there was a law which was exactly like this, only not about bad words against other people, but bad words against government and regime.
Anyway, great job UK, you just became communist state under tyrannical government.
If you do not fight this now with any means necessary, you will regret it for sure.
'Anti-Establishment Rhetoric' has already been listed in a conviction (not the only part)....
if i am correct and based on my studies .. my understanding is when you have a tyrant (such as Tito) the only way you get them out is when the police and military unite to oust them, then you get stuck with a military type government for about fifty years before it finds its way back to democracy.. i'm not up with what has happened in Yugoslavia but that might be right? I think if my memory services me the Serbia /Croatia conflict was in the 80s?
@@thevocalcrone No, your memory does not 'serve you correct' as a fifteen second search would have told you. The Croatian War of Independence was an armed conflict fought from 1991 to 1995 between Croat forces loyal to the Government of Croatia - which had declared independence from the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the Serb-controlled Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) and local Serb forces, with the JNA ending its combat operations in Croatia by 1992.
@@DraftySatyr well.. i hope your righteous indignation serves you well and you feel all virtuous. bottom line is.. what happens in croatia and serbia really is a long way from Australia and all we had was a lot of refugees coming over, working here and then going home. Paying attention to their politics was not (and never has been the priority of my life). Having said that -I think i'll go and cry in my cups if you aren't an authority on Australian history and politics because my country is SO important to the rest of the world. I can't understand why people don't know it.
They are all Tory law's, brought in by the last Tory Government did you whine and whinge when they were bringing them in at that time?
Tory law's brought in during 2010 - 2024..
Here's some Hurty words for Kier Starker, worst PM ever, unfit for office and should resign! In my opinion.
Ouch. Did you have to go nuclear level hurtiness.
Despot, tyrant, traitor, treasonous bully, etc.. No. 1 Enemy of the Nation.
Knock knock 😂
He's a N0nc3
None of the present bunch of politicians in any party should ever be trusted to be representing us in parliament they all represent lobby groups and industries including those pushing the interests of one foreign power or another not the people of the UK as a whole !
So a Muslim with knife goes after Jewish UK members, and is let off with having a pointy weapon. YET TWEET AND GO TO JAIL FOR TWO YEARS. GO FIGURE🤔
Inmates are running the asylum
More like pedo's and fiddlers
migrants you mean
If you want to know who your masters are ask who it is you cannot question or criticize.
I said that when Blair went in with the USA over Iraq
@@DavidJohnson-yg8qmwell, blair is back in action. Irony.
We deserve to be policed by a fair & impartial police force, not these charlatans masquerading as police.
We deserve to be policed by people with an IQ higher than a potato
the Police used to Police by consent , trouble is they are fast loosing that consent , we all know where this ultimately go
@@royjennison3916 Hi, yes.
They have become the enforcement arm, and after 4 years they will probably need replacing as per Norther Ireland.
I am afraid that we are going to spiral into Northern Ireland like society.
Oddly they are now united against the way we are now!
Take care all M.
A Constables duty is to protect man’s property : 🗝️⚖️ 💯% …
@@ZooScottOh aye.
The uk really is utterly embarrassing and pathetic.
Not only the UK as this emotion based reactionary bs keeps popping up all over the place. People need to deal with hurty words and this is not a job for the police or the courts.
How about tyrannical?
compared to where?
@@scepteredisle Every other devloped nation.
Not France.
"go to prison for what they have said". Englands gone mad
I went to sleep one night in the United Kingdom and next day awoken in North Korea.
Would that have been on 5 July 2024 by any chance?
He fell asleep on a plane.
@@DraftySatyr You seriously think this all started happening after the election? Are you mad?
I’m embarrassed for this country.
You should live in Wales, it's been going on here for most of this century. What is happening is because 20% of the electorate gave Sir Keir a huge parliamentary majority whilst 80% didn't.
If you can get people fired/banned/cancelled/arrested/jailed for hurting your feelings you are not the oppressed... you are the oppressor.
You're not alone
Don't be. It's really worrying
More than half of so called hate crimes are Police officers reporting an offence of calling them names during an arrest.
More. Than. Half.
then they use the so called hate crime statistics to justify more censorship, more thought policing, more brainwashing of kids.
Isn't it a crime when the p.m.. called us all far right
Kim jong yun also known as starmer so my friend said
Yes, I find this emotionally abusive of him. 🤣
I find it very hard to accept the police are doing what they should. We as those of us who are born here in the UK are treated very badly in relation to those who are alian to the UK. Am I wrong?
Starner also said "weakened by a decade of division and decline, infected by a spiral of populism" and then blaming everything on the far-right. Surely he should be part of the solution, not the problem and taking steps to end this type of populist division.
Morris - Based on the 1689 English Bill of Rights , Parliamentarians have ABSOLUTE freedom of expression , while they are in Parliament . You'll notice that Kier Starmer doesn't make inflammatory comments from 10 Downing Street . But rather he makes these sorts of comments from a wood paneled room .
Note one of Justine Trudeau 's favourite tricks is to anger Canadians . Then when they respond , he calls them far right with extremist views , racists , misogynistic , populists who use fear , anger and division .
Note how Starmer and a few other MP's use the same language .
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I am an O.A.P and a woman. This government fills me with terror, fear, anxiety with their threatening behaviour.
Hopefully sense will prevail...
There are still good people who love this country!
Me too .
Don’t be afraid, it’s what they want. Be brave I’m sure you have years of wisdoms so know right from wrong. They’re wrong!
@@mariaridler1831 Thank you for your reassurance… ❤️ God bless…
@@oldcrow4301 God bless you and keep you safe 🙏☺️
It would help if the police were independently investigated for complaints.
Never plead guilty.
Never answer any questions.
People cannot take criticism anymore, they take it as abuse.
*DISCLAIMER: The following is not intended as a call for riot, violence or criminal activity. Nor is it intended as spreading mis-information. Any statements should be independently checked by the reader.*
I think it's more that certain people/'communities'/political-persuasions cannot take criticism.
It's a generation that wasn't parented with the word 'NO!' Naughty step and participation trophy generation 😏
Tough ! Boo hoo to them !
Over a decade ago, legitimate criticism of islam was deemed a "hate crime" by certain parts of the internet.
Some of us opposed that view. We were silenced by the censors. Fast-forward 12 years, it's coming to a head.
As this keeps escalating, a reckoning will come for the people who put this nonsense in place. And for those who enabled them. The rest of us won't lift a finger.
A lot of it IS abuse, and I am sure it is irrational and ridiculous in many, if not most, cases.
Having said that, this is not how it should be handled.
I do not know the solution, but this is not it.
The police in England have more in common with the KGB than Western style justice
Except that there is almost 10 TIMES the number of people in British prisons for hurty words than there are in Russia? When did that happen?? 11:36
It's certainly getting like that, the British Gulag Archipelago is currently under construction
If you believe all our propaganda against Russia.
Sir, I think you do the KGB a grave injustice!
they have eclipsed the KGB and have landed at thought police
They mean "We do not tolerate the public scrutinising us and pointing out our officers abusing their power"
Yes.
Don't critisise the government or point things out.
Take care, Vote reform and get a better government! M.
THY ARE SCUM
That's the very definition of a autocratic state. Foreign visitors should be worn not to bring their smartphones with them in case the British Stasi snoops around their online activities. Pathetic!
It would seem so
The Met (in it's current state) is wholly unfit for purpose.
We should be recruiting PCs from the brave members of our military, not woke universities.
I have been called ALL kinds of insulting or abusive names and guess what! Im not curled up in a corner sobbing my heart out and thinking of suicide or even trying to. As I was told ' sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.' It's a wise saying and should be heeded. We're too soft and pathetic now. IMHO
They sound like children.
Police and Politicians all exempt from liability and prosecution.
Organised drug dealers
Not true they can be prosecuted
The MSM are exempt from prosecution for spreading misinformation (it's in the Online Safety Bill).
@@TerryHall-nm8gt But _are_ they?
look at the IOPC self investigation figures. Eye-watering numbers. Then look at the percentage of upheld complaints. Brutally low. Like appalingly low
Sticks and stones people, the police are meant to be solving crime not sorting out playground issues
And words will get you a spell inside. I think that is how it now goes.
Thake care M.
But they can't do either. They've never stopped hooligans on motorbikes (no older than 9) razzing about
I was about to quote the old rhyme as you did, I do wonder if some of the news items suggesting the police not turning out for house burglaries etc are true, but it does appear that words are now getting more attention and sentences! What a daft world we live in.
They are dealing with crimes.
If they move the public away from groups of machete wielding Islamic thugs, they prevent the thugs committing crimes.
Agreed they are only make themselves look like a bunch of wimps
If the police wanted to reassure the public, they could try dealing with anti social behaviour, burglaries, rape, and terrorist marches, for a start.
Which is what they have been doing
@somalilandrecognition5413 - Except they haven't, which is part of the reason we're seeing the current backlash and accusations of two-tier policing.
It's a known and verifiable fact that, for example, less than 5% of burglaries in the UK are solved; and in some areas, the police outright refuse to investigate certain crimes, even going so far as to cover them up for fear of the response from certain communities, e.g. the Rotherham r*pe gang (or, euphemistically, "grooming gang") scandal being a case in point.
Justice is supposed to be blind and applied equally, regardless of colour or creed, but that's not what is happening in the UK right now.
I don't support or condone the violent behaviour of either 'side' in this situation, but I can see why things have gone in this direction and I sincerely wish that it hadn't. However, the UK government, whether Conservative or Labour, have caused this and continue to exacerbate the issue.
Putting more importance on "hurty words" and protecting people's feelings has caused many problems, and has led to a massive lack of trust in the police force.
Sadly, I can't see how this situation will be resolved, and I'm concerned as it seems like some view violence as the only solution.
@@somalilandrecognition5413My ass , they are a joke of a Police force , London crime out of control totally !
@@somalilandrecognition5413letting out prisoners and ignoring real crime! and not arresting assaults on young girls, grooming gangs, not turning up for break ins etc., but arresting children, like the young autistic girl that said to her mum (about a police woman), she looks like my lesbian Nana. They dragged her out of her home, even though told she had a spinal problem…. Arresting weak targets, for hurty feeling, and ridiculous charges but backing away from real criminals it seems.
"I support the Police, they have a difficult job to do" - the problem is with that statement is that they are not actually doing the 'difficult' job they are paid to carry out, and instead have chosen to be a secret Police, as the high court described the college of Policing as being "the Gestapo or Stasi", why would anybody support an organisation like that? People often ask how was it the people in Germany supported what happened in the 1930s, and the answer is because they either couldn't see or were too cowardly to challenge what happened. Those who did like Pastor Neimoller ended up in prison - it's going the same way here.
They are just avoiding dealing with real problems by pretending these things are more important.
‘1984’ is here and now. Bookburning next?
Please, don't give the authorities ideas. 😉
That happened already in England.
There's a certain book you dare not burn!or criticise.
There is a book that is illegal to own
I think arresting political opponents is next. I'm expecting them to trump up some charges against Farage any day now.
Starmer must be kicked out. Traitor to the people of the U.K..
Larry emailed one of my cats and said he doesn’t see Starmer lasting much longer at 10 Downing.
@@seamusoreilly804 - I do understand that if Starmer gets a devastating vote of no confidence from the public and also other MP's that can make him resign or he can dissolve Parliament from the Monarch (King Charles). From what I hear, there are a lot of people stating what you say above.
@@paranoidmarty I prefer behind bars to kicked out
@@seamusoreilly804I hope so
He has a supermajority. You'll get your full five years.
I was a bus driver for over 50 years, i heard unkind words levelled at me by motorists, pedestrians, cyclists and passengers on a daily basis. Mostly when i hadn't actually done anything to deserve it. Must admit i never cried once. 😂
Exactly! You develop a thick skin. The nastiness rolls off your back like water on a duck.
👍👍
The police need to be dealing with knife crime and stop hunting for people making hurty comments
Like the eight stabbing victims (two now dead) , 349 arrests (172 of which were for violent or sexual offences, and possession of offensive weapons including firearms) over the two days of the Notting Hill Carnival. Let's see how the sentencing pans out for those offences.
Never talk to the Police. Simple.
Apparently we now live in North Korea!
I wish I was born in n.korea than this sh..hole!! Do you think n.korea is more likely to kill or englandstan (weapons corp)???
Look at taxes, prices of goods & services, the weather, 'crazy lunatic' in your neighbourhood...its an easy choice!!!
I live in Leicestershire so as for hurty words they need to grow a backbone you know like when we were kids sticks and stones and all that! Sick of the woke!
What’s living in Leicestershire got to do with anything Bot?
@TheCrackbinge ah sweetie do we have to ask your fkn pronouns
It’s Leicestershire Police that has put this hurty words post up that he’s reading from!
Freedom is liberty, and as Orwell said - "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people things they do not want to hear."
Well said
Telling people "things they don't want to hear" =/= insults.
Oh, I like that !
@@batteredwarrior Or criticism, or facts, or harsh truths. What matters is having the right to say those things.
Spent 38 years as a cop in the US .... we were happy if a people waved with all five fingers. These UK cops would not last one day over here without being subjected to "hurty" words.
“To suppress free speech is a double wrong. It violates the right of the hearer as well as those of the speaker." - Frederick Douglass
Remember the British Empire never answered to Anyone; until the One World Government program became so powerful that the current US Government obeys it.
The judges have acted as puppets.
Starmer tells them to not grant bail and to dish out harsh sentences and that’s exactly what they do.
Probably all his mates
@@MRW515correct and in some circumstances worse than starmer
Did you not listen to or understand the very clear explanations given. Judges act in accordance with sentencing guidelines.
Plead guilty, or sit in jail for 12 months on remand, before you go to court.
@@jjefferyworboys8138 ah yes, they give illegals no prison time for rping school girls but jal protesters for 2 years 🤡
"Unkind" words are a fact of life. If you are so thin skinned that you think people need to be jailed over upsetting you, then stay home and don't be around people. This is government over reach and an abuse of power.
Thank you, Sylvie, for possessing such good common sense!
They shouldn't be...
But no one should be the subject of any abuse when doing their job. It’s ridiculous the lack of respect people have these days for anyone let alone police and services that help us, but hey ho carry on.
@@fivenotewonder Telling someone "You aren't English anymore" isn't abuse, but they gave him 30 months in jail. They just arrested an 11 year old over a meme. Who's abusing who?
@@fivenotewonder Interesting point in the light of the Nandos waitress case. In that case the police themselves did nothing to help her. Maybe they should get their own house in order first?
the police office would not have arrested a muslim preacher outisde a mosque
Absolutely correct
Well its a double edge sword so start complaining
Neither should they have arrested the Christian ladies. 2 wrongs doesn't make a right.
I used to be in the full support of the police but over the years I've seen them become politised and not enforce the law equally and fairly. Neither position is acceptable and erodes public confidence in them.
WEF Stazi police! Always film them. Evidence vital in Court.
They ALREADY prison people for hurty words!
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Tyranny
Absolutely ! Putins Communist Russia, China and North Korea have more freedom.
Unkind words!! When will this overreach stop ?
When you are all in Prison!
Wrong Think!. M
Yes, unapproved thoughts.
why wasnt the head of the met not charged with anything when he grabbed the mic off the journalist,
"Some are more equal than others" I believe is a famous line from a book.
Think hard on where we are in the spiral.
Take care M.
Immuned
@@markeh1971Animal farm,good book
And he lied about what happened. It seems the law only applies to certain people and not others who can raise a ‘rent-a -mob’ threatening civil disorder on a weekly basis.
I think we should be more concerned with Keir Starmer's relationship with the CPS (which he used to run) than the judges.
Maybe the police should get off social media
So what will the labour councillor that invited people to cut everyone’s throat get sentenced to if he ever gets taken to court. And what will his supporters that counted in the thousands. Who supported his threats and clapped and cheered him. That must of been incitement to riot as there were more than 12 people there ready to back him. At least One who seemed to be from Amnesty international.
Any judge that did what Kier Stalin said locking people up fir potentially hurty words on bookface should be sacked and jailed.
Reminds me of Judge Freisler working on behalf of the Third Reich.
Starmer's judges are imposing piano wire sentences but with a smiley face.
He's sick (sick is slang for great, by the way).
sick in the head. .... awesome
BBB won't criticize his mates the judges, they are all in the same lodge/club and aspire to the same 'degree of illumination'.
@@illegalsmirf The BBC & judiciary share the same rent boys.
Get it right up you Starmer. YOU WILL NOT EVER tell me what to say or do!
In the case of the religious ladies who had an abusive crowd around them…why didnt the policeman move that crowd along, under threat of arresting them for breaching the peace? Do they not have free will to stay there and be verbally abusive and harassing the preachers, or to ignore the preachers and go about their business? Why was responsibility on the peaceful people preaching the bible? I would think that if a crowd of concerned Christians were surrounding a muslim conversion drive in the street, then the Christian crowd would get arrested and not the other lot
Is any one in the Judiciary gonna challenge this lawfare.
Fascism
I feel it's a commie facist hybrid
...is a specific political idealogy , you meant totalitarianism.
Communism*
"Fascism" is a far right ideology. Labour literally can't be fascists by definition.
@@batteredwarrior Fascism was created by Italian ex socialist party members..
I think the bottom line is simple ... huge numbers of people have lost all respect and all trust in the police, the law and the judiciary. It's not coming back, any time soon.
Sad isn't it. M.
You're not wrong
Add politicians to the list too , not looking good for the British people, is it !.
You can add the BBC to that list. I used to be a staunch supporter of all of them, I can't believe what my country is becoming.
@@selseyonetwenty4631 I agree. I reckon 2 terms of "Stasi" Starmer and we'll all end up living in mud huts.
I am glad I was raised in the era of "sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me "
The laws an ass. They just work it as they want it
It is all about controlling you and nothing else.
Absolutely
I was under the impression that the Police were supposed to have a higher tolerance to abuse and unkind words than would be expected to be tolerated by a member of the public .
They shouldn’t be in the job if not!
They are !!
When I talk to the police they nearly always annoy me. They range from patronizing to rude.I'd rather have nothing to do with them. I stay out of trouble, and stay away from them.
Absolutely I find the same
Sadly, in my experience, so many of our police officers are really thick, which makes understanding and applying the law a real challenge for them. A police officer friend of my stepdad used to spend half his shift drinking tea in our front room.
As for public servants when did they ever consider the feelings of their clients? These signs are posted in every public service office. The public generally accept that they will be abused, belittled, ignored or dismissed as ignorant, yet if you become upset by your treatment you will be shown the door or prosecuted.
I guess I must just be a petulant princess.
What people must understand is the fact that the UK is run by a totally corrupt regime that sees the people as steppingstones to wealth by the apparat.
Being kind is not the same as being nice. Being kind is not the same as being honest. Being kind is not always in the best interest of anyone. Being kind is rooted in empathy and not reality.
Being kind is why some people believe they can be morbidly obese and healthy. Kindness is why people believe they can chop off perfectly healthy body parts and become something they’re not.
Kindness is why healthy children are chemically sterilised and mutilated.
Being kind is not always the nice thing to do.
Sometime what is needed is the brutal unadulterated truth, and that is not kind.
Perfectly rational and honest remarks........ as will not be set out in Starmer's Kindness Act 2024 whereby any remarks contrary to any deranged woketard's view of life, however crazy they may be and irrespective of how truthful the remarks themselves are, will be made a crime.
Excellent post
You switched kind with nice. Nice is outwardly appearance. Kindness is of the heart.
Remember we have the right to redress our government and government departments.
Evidently not lawfully.
You have the right to go to prison!
Vote Reform next time! M.
@markeh1971 voting eh? Look where it's got us. Apparently we've just been choosing wrong all this time & it's not that they're all on the same team or anything ffs
Indeed we do, and in more ways than one.
@@markeh1971Why would anyone vote for fascists like Reform?
Poor poor baby, someone said something not nice. WHO decides what is not nice?
POT PLEASE MEET KETTLE.
The whole point of free speech is offensive speech ... No one is going to complain about speech they agree with...
BB Barrister states that some speech will be offensive, which the police are expected to deal with. Again, it comes down to context and how something is articulated.
This dictatorship is unreal.
"To build trust and confidence", well that ship has certainly sailed.
The police earned my contempt through a personal interaction with them. "My lived experiance" in modern parlance. Blatant two tier policing demonstrated by the different treatment meted out to two individuals for the same offence.
This is insanity, you can't compel people use kind words.
Canada already has compelled speech legislation & under Starmlin, the UK has now taken over at the vanguard of left-wing authoritarianism...is it really such a huge leap for these incumbent tyrants to do that?
Its almost certain that trying to enforce people to respect you will cause them to disrespect you and even openly to resent you for the attempt. Respect is earned and the police have forgotten how to earn the respect of the public.
Just don't talk.
It's like "Don't Look UP"
you views are not welcome if they don't fit in with the "new" way and could land you in prison.
Vote reform next time or leave. M.
I for one do not go out to offend anyone, if that person chose to be offended that's their problem not mine. I speak as i find in a polite manner in laymans language.
No matter what you say, the establishment will always twist your words to suit their own agenda. In my 67yrs I've never known such a dreadful evil government as Labour is now. Particularly SHARIASTARMER , don't panic it's only a nickname.
Cheers all 🍻
Merseyside Police ran a poster campaign a few years ago saying that “Causing offence is an offence” until they were reminded that it wasn’t and had to withdraw the campaign! 😂
ok , dutch guy here who will never cross that stinkin channel , ima heading to their fb and post unkind opinions
I would say arresting and imprisoning people for Facebook posts is pretty 'unkind'.
From this it seems that I can criticise Christian values because this probably won’t incite violence, but I cannot criticise Islamic values because I should know that this could incite violence. Is that correct?
One should respect all religions, Islamic people are generally peaceful and hard working, but there are exceptions because we are all human
@@grahambate1567 should one respect the founder of Islam?
Harsh words are the primary non-violent mechanism by which humans regulate each others behaviour. Without recourse to firm and pointed speech, there is no accountability for those who behave badly. Which is why they want to remove it, because they are so disgusting, there have to be laws to stop you hating them.
We don't have freedom of expression any more. The state determines guilt, context, motive and sentencing. If you want to speak in front of a jury enjoy 3 years on remand.
Vote Reform!
100% Mate. Nigel for PM.
@@user-ye7bf8sv6m Going to do that!
@@user-ye7bf8sv6m Thanks. I'll give it a go 🙂
That was what many of us wanted Reform in, but they got stiffed because the Election was brought forward from when it should have happened in the September of this year. Reform didn't have enough time to get everything together, but I am so glad the got to become MP's.
What ever happened to the scathing satire the UK use to have.
It was found to be incompatible with certain newly imported cultures who do not abide any criticism.
It will get you a cell. M
@@lesigh1749So every cop is an immigrant?
@@cgisme Not yet.
not allowed now...
Communism incoming.
Imagine if all the value left? Such the utopia.
This is a capitalist corporate oligarchy. Its tyrannical the same a communism ends up in but not the same. I feel you're being piped the ol fear smokescreen. Look the commies are coming bs
Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will get me arrested.
Maybe we should all go on their social media page and call them unkind words to show these fascist's that we're not scared of them or their threats.
What about when Police make " unkined or derogatory comments " It seems it only goes one way and certain sections of the community are immune from Prosecution !
It's almost as if smarmer had a hidden agenda all along!?🤔
Have to hand it to Peter Hitchens. He knew, he warned us. I wanted shot of that awful Tory government as much as anyone but I would have Rishie back in a heartbeat. Even Boris! And that's coming from someone who never voted Tory in my life.
Shouting at the hostile police, 26 months....really?
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Have them 2 thugs been jailed yet for breaking that police women nose and then attacking thouse 2 police officers? They shud be doing jail now 15 years and deported
Nope & probably won't be. They'll throw the book at the coppers though.
We have supposed to have forgotten about them
@@jayss123 or so my comment cud get me in jail then deported I don’t no we’re but any thing will be better than the Uk
I don’t think they will be, as the police instigated the violence.