My dad is a retired master woodworker/string instrument builder. He's one of these elderly people who never learned the internet, but he wanted me to pass his regards on to you and mention that he understands how difficult it would be to be mastering so many fields and mediums simultaneously.
This is the perfect engine for your speedster. The flathead is nice, but this twincam is one of the most beautiful and reliable “ Indy-like engines “ you could have gotten. And who cares that it is a 2.4, it will move you along just fine. Superb choice. And it will sound SO right. If you want, I do have an early e-type 4 speed gearbox (moss, non-synchro first) that I can contribute and ship to you. I do not have the bellhousing though, and jaguar bellhousings, flywheels and starter combos are a bit voodoo. Keep going, you are on a roll!
Being British and growing up with Jags I see the 2.4 as the baby engine, much preferring the 3.8. However it is the perfect, era correct, look for your project and once set up properly will live forever, under-stressed and smooth. These old girls like to be looked after and reward a careful owner, sounding perfect with a good exhaust note. You seem to have later model exhaust manifolds already. Cars like yours would be tuned and regularly upgraded as parts became available so feel free to enhance the look with side draught or at least a 3 SU carb set up with polished trumpets or air filters and maybe a race looking exhaust manifold (with or without wrap). An Alloy radiator could be dressed up with some brass trim and some classic red or yellow braided HT leads etc. It might be nice to paint the engine block in British Racing Green enamel but please keep and polish the hell out of all the alloy parts, they are priceless.
She would sound so beautiful in motion breathing through triple SUs. A-6 would have been nice, Yes. But that little thing hardly weighs an ounce. I think it will motivate pretty damn fast down the road.
My first car at age 16 was a Mk2 3.8 liter Jag...that started a life of 15 years of restoring Jaguars...They are prone to getting cracks in the aluminum head and or corrosion. If the head is good, your in great shape...if not, well that will be another story. Everything else you said in the video is spot on...great choise for this build...you remind me of a younger me, as I have followed you build...I had a coach builder friend around the corner from my shop and an English motor shop down the street...both were invaluable in my early days...Great work...Keep it up.
If you have to replace the pistons you could over-bore the cylinders to accept the pistons from the 3.4 litre engine. Using the 2.4 connecting rods gives you a short stroke 3.0 litre engine which really goes. ( I read about this mod years ago and I am not positive it wasn't the 3.8 pistons, but you would no doubt find out about this fairly easily). Food for thought. I really like what you are doing and undoubtedly the Jaguar unit suits the pre war racer look absolutely. All the best from the UK. Simon Webley
With that Jaguar engine powering this ultra-light aluminum-bodied speedster - it is going to be a handful to keep it tamed and on the road. Since you're using a Jaguar engine, I think it should have an English burl wood dash with a compliment of Smith's gauges. Make sure you have real leather seating too. These period touches add to the authenticity of the builds overall ode to the 1930s automotive period.
I agree with you it will be a handful, the steering wheel should be a 4 spoke and as you say leather or rope www.mgexp.com/phile/46/514272/wheel.jpeg as for the dash a sports car like this I would reckon an alloy engine-turned dash with your Smiths instruments, I think would more suits a grand tourer. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/1931_Bugatti_type_35A-51_Grand_Prix_%285%29.jpg But hey we all see things differently and is what makes it interesting. Whatever he does this young guy is doing great quality work I'm sure you would agree.
The Jaguar engine is a wonderful choice. It will give your Indy Speedster the aura of the Miller or Duesenderg specials of the 1930s. Jaguar won Le Mans with your engine in the C and D types in the 1950s. Great work.
You can do everything he's done here without all those tools. It's nice to have those tools, but they're not required to do the same level of quality work.
@@haydenblack5648 then don't be the guy who is held back with jealousy. Sure, it would have been nice to have access to that kinda equipment when I was his age, but I didn't and I still managed to get things done. Plus, it's really not that hard to accumulate all those tools over decades like I'm sure his dad has. His dad's just nicer than I am and let's his son use em. Plus have you seen the videos where this young man went to the junk yard and found ALL KINDS of awesome metal working tools?!?! Thats how you do it.
BIG WIGGLE all I said was he grew up with guidance and a father that funded his ambition to some extent. Why are you calling me jealous and acting like you know me or something?
That engine was, as you know, fitted to a car weighing over two tons - it should be entertaining! They are silky smooth when running right and I have driven a few cars fitted with this and the more modern version. This is a great series and I am insanely jealous of your skills!
i know its hard to believe but just discovered ur site. totally enthralled n amazed. my son is 24 and hes been fabricating drift cars and numerous other customers custom projects. tho no where near his ability ive always wanted to do a build like yours. def going to go back thru all videos from start n hopefully begin a build with him using u as a template...thanx for the inspiration n showing that its possible without a mega dollar shop n tools
Engine machinist here. Some things to consider regarding your Jaguar engine. As it happens, I've been inside one off these engines, albeit a tad older (1954 3.8L). First, you will want to save up some money to have hardened exhaust valve seats installed in the head. Back in the day there used to be lead in the gasoline, and it would act as a semi-liquid wear surface on the soft valve seat. Since you'll be using modern unleaded gasoline, the valve is going to beat the soft seat to death, unless you either get the hardened exhaust valve seats, or, if you can find it, you could use a liquid lead substitute fuel additive every time you fill up. Second, if you decide to hop up the engine with some racy camshafts, I would highly recommend you check the piston-to-valve clearance. There's nothing worse than the piston crashing into the still open valves as it's coming up the bore. Third, while you have the head being worked on at the machine shop, have them modify the valve guides to accept positive valve stem seals. They last much longer than the old school seals, and they work better. Besides, you don't want your freshly built motor to smoke and burn oil. Fourth, you might investigate the possibility of installing a more modern rear main seal. That was one of those jobs we didn't do on the aforementioned Jag engine. This is mainly to reduce oil consumption, and to prevent that typical British engine oil leak. Fifth, if you want to raise the compression on the engine to increase the power, I would recommend keeping the compression ratio somewhere in the neighborhood of 9:1 to 9.5:1. You'll have plenty of power, and you'll be able to use Regular 87 octane gasoline instead of Premium. Plus, keeping the compression down below 9.5:1 will increase the longevity of the motor. The bottom end won't be overtaxed or overstressed. I think you've got yourself a really nice engine there, and it's a great unique choice for a one-of-a-kind car like what you're building.
Ahh. . .an engine that looks like a six cylinder version of a Meyer-Drake/Offenhauser! When polished up, as you say, beautiful and elegant. Great choice.
Downdraft carburetors and a steel oil pan. Jaguar all right, just has had a rogue life! Certainly pleased that you knew about the studs under the cam drive cover at the front of the head. So many 'Merican mechanics back in "the day" broke the head prying on the front section!
Those old Jag engines always have really fresh oil in them. The dirty oil naturally ends up on the driveway ;) Seriously though, it is a good looking motor. I'm sure it will work great.
I rebuilt a late 1968 ish? 4.2l jaguar i6 a few years ago. I got lucky enough to find a british specialty shop near me that let me trace their cam position/ timing tool so i could duplicate it at home and not have to buy one. Other then that the valve tappet shims was a bit tedious to make right as i had a few valves replaced but they were cheap and easy to find even in stainless steel. Also the oil feed banjo fittings on the back of the head are easy to forget about when u cannot see them. Other then that its simple engine building. And im not sure if its common or not but the factory distributor was cracked above the drive gear and i was able to find an aftermarket flamethrower? For pennys compared to repops.
I am currently just finishing a 1932 ford roadster. It’s powered by a 1952 Jag engine that looks like yours. ,but came out of a MK VII salon. I also used the moss four speed. Not happy with that so I agree that the Five speed is the way to go. I would post photos, but don’t know how that works on a you tube comment. Great job, I’m a Fan.
Good progress !!! Loving the Jag motor over the Flathead for sure... as I said before you an amazing kid !!!! Thank your parents for me and tell them they raised one Great Kid !!!
You will definitely have to get the cylinders re-honed professionally with over size piston rings. In purchasing all new gaskets, I would also cough up the price for new head bolts, cam chain and timing gear. Unless you're going to do a complete rebuild, its not really worth the effort. I would also have the head done with new valves and springs. Have you got the gearbox and figured out leg room with pedals yet? It looks like close quarters with steering, exhaust and pedals all on the same side. Keep everything all bearing caps , con rods and pistons separated and numbered as you are going along this is very important. Awesome job on the body keep up the great work, your not my son but you're making me proud. keep up the good work and don't quit.
You beat me to it. I agree 100% and I also kinda cringed when he was removing the head which could cause more warping. Cool idea in lieu of using the Flathead Ford engine but he'll have his work cut out for him to do it right. Engine space might be another consideration with all the the elements like brake master cylinders, clutch hydraulics, exhaust manifold, generator (alternator?) radiator, steering box...etc...etc....Good catch and feel like I'm not alone however, this young man is not only teaching himself, he's teaching others of his generation as well. Kudo's to that!
@@naberville3305 Perhaps. But will he be going old school? I hope he does. That would be cool. It will still require more on the fly engineering which he has proved he can accomplish. Cheers!
@@TheFlatlander440 when I chatted with him early on he was tempted to do mechanical brakes but reluctantly decided hydraulic drums would be safer. So yeah. Definitely old school. Though considering it's a 200hp at 6800rpm (Jesus that's gonna sound niiiiice) motor.. he's gonna want at least a brake booster. Which they do make for that style.
Duuuude!!! You are the f'ing man, man!!! Your build skills at your age are unmatched! I don't think I could do half of what you've done here and I'm almost 40. I cant wait to see it with all the louvers. Louvers can make a soccer mom's van look cool. Louvers also make it look more like a salt flats racer than an Indy racer to me, especially having an oddball engine like that Jaguar engine, which I think looks perfect between the rails of your car. And I am a die hard flathead engine guy. They come with their own issues, but with today's technology, a lot of those issues have been eliminated. But that Jaguar motor looks beautiful in there. I just hope you can get it all back together and have her purring like a Jaguar again.
You are a brave man to take on a project like that but will be so happy when complete, One of my good friends back in the 60,s had a father who was a British mechanic and he hated to work on the overhead cam engines as they were so difficult to time and set up the valves. In that era you could buy kits to change out your Jag motor for a Chev. in the XKE Sport car. At that time I was offered a 1953 Jaguar Sedan for $30.00 .
Your channel showed up in my recommended videos. Holy crap, your work would be impressive for an old school pro, but for someone as young as you appear to be, it's nothing short of amazing! You've got yourself a new fan and subscriber.
The Jaguar six cylinder engine is without a doubt one of the most beautiful engines ever made. And looks perfect in your car! A few notes of caution; valve lash can be tricky to set perfectly, but a lot of patience will help you with that. Carburetors synchronization is tough, no doubt about it, but can be helped along with intelligent linkage design. I have no doubt you'll figure it out.
The exhaust note alone is worth the work involved! Besides, it will look far more suitable in that body than a flathead. If you want to go "all out" install three Webers on it. Of course, you might have to get a second mortgage on your house.
I hope you marked the main caps in some manner so that they go back in the same position. I'm also a bit surprised that the machine shop didn't want the main caps with the block. A good inspection would include checking the main bore center line.
if you find that the cams are noisy and you can't get a proper shim kit for them..my Dad used to work on a Neighbor's Jag in the 70's(we had a Esso service station for 35 years) and he solved the noisy tappets by using dimes under the Valve caps ..just file them down to the correct size and bingo works like a charm..by the way I think your doing a Great Job ..thanks for sharing ..stay safe..
Great score on the Jag motor! I'm hoping it will be rebuildable! It will look very classy! And yes, a T-5 is the way to go. Less fuss and muss! Such a cool build, Kudos!!
In all seriousness, the XK6 is one of the greatest engines of all time, often overlooked in North America. These were designed *during* WW2, and were some of the most advanced production engines of their time. Heck, the D-Type Jaguars literally drove themselves off the ferries, to Le Mans, won, and then drove back to Coventry, England. I don't know if any other Le Mans Winners drove as far to and from track, fascinating.
The exhaust note will be beautiful and the low end torque will be more than adequate in such a light chassis. Love where you are going with your project...have fun!
Way cool idea, run the exhaust out the side like was popular. Tearing a jag motor down with no experience is......gutsy, don't get discouraged you have a real gem. Hats off.
Not sure if Borg Warner furnished the manual transmissions for this particular engine, they did supply the automatics I believe. The engine stock produces about 120 BHP so it won't take a very beefy gearbox.
Perfect choice of engine, I love the 2.4, I think it’s underrated and most go for its bigger brothers. I’m surprised the head came off so easy, we used to jack the cars up by the head, leave them overnight and just wait for them to come loose. You got lucky
Flathead V8's are awesome... but you're right, the Jag motors look and sound like something out of a Spitfire! I rebuilt and XJ6 motor in my garage at home... loved every minute of it, even if getting the head off was an absolute pig... 😀
Now you know why the oil pan only had 4 bolts and the conrod caps were loose. Hopefully it is all saveable. It was great to see you removing parts and keeping them sorted by cylinder but when unbolting things like the head or crankshaft you should always do it in reverse order of the tightening/torque sequence. I recently saw pictures of a Bugatti Roadster and aside from being right hand drive it looked exactly like the body you are building right down to the placement of the stamped louvers on the boat tail that you haven’t shown yet on TH-cam. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
the jag 6 is a great design, beautiful to look at and to hear, and a great racing pedigree. my understanding is they are costly to rebuild which is why many swapped out blown engines with small black chevys. things i'd suggest considering is weight and cost v. the flathead, and whether that banjo rear can handle the torque of that six.
The Flathead puts out 245Nm at 2000rpm, whereas that 2,4liter (146ci) puts out 191Nm also at 2000 rpm and 120hp at 5720rpm... Not bad for 60% of the Ford's total displacement. Blown engine blocks is due to people not letting the engine warm up (it can take up to 15miles) before welding the pedal to the floor. If the banjo rear is know to handle a 4liter Flathead boat anchor, it'll be fine with that XK240 ^^
@@Ecosse57 Only on the cost factor didn't I reply dear Sir, your other affirmations are correct. European prices can't be compared with US/Canadian ones. Those engines (in their smallest -yet great- configuration) aren't as common as it's 4,2l big brother. Therefore less specialist and parts are to be found on your side of the pond... wich doesn't imply that prices are high because the 2,4 liter is a sought after rare beast, but by the fact that you have to custom make what you can't find like pistons for exemple. Flathead parts are not that cheap either.
In dealing with the later xj40s, I never crossed paths with a single overly expensive part. Max was about 10% more than regular Aussie car parts (brake rotors). The whole chev swap was more like yanks think anything less than a v8 isn't a real motor- and that some jags used a turbo trans meant an easy, cheap convert.
Seeing you use that adjustable spanner on the crank bolt was painful, lol. Otherwise you do great work, it's very inspiring. Thanks for the videos. Another way to get off bolts on rotating assemblies is with an impact gun. Can't wait to see this finished!
what a dynamic job you are upto mate...very little have a refined dream as this & the rarest of rare would pursue this, keep posting your lovely creativity... i wish you good luck to infinity !!!!!
Unless you acquired the bellhousing/transmission with the engine , you are going to need an adapter plate to mount a transmission . Good luck with your project , it's great to see you learning so many skills !
For info on these Jag engines, there is an awesome TH-camr called "Richard Michael Owen". He restores old Jags with, I think, his father. They have great videos on the subject and would be a good place to go with questions.
Perfect and beautifull engine for your project... polished cover and british racing green block with all the bobs and knobs in glossy black, that would be very nice😊
A bit of a change going from a side valve engine to double overhead cam. Still I think the Jag engine will be way better than a dated old flat head, if you don't mind having an engine out of period with your car. You can also get a nice triple SU carb set up as used on the E Type Jag. As said Jag parts are expensive, even over here in the UK but get yourself some warm real beers and enjoy rebuilding it.
Please tell me that you're going with an external exhaust down the side of the car? That'd look great. And you can always put a super charger infront of the radiator grill. ;)
That engine simply fits, the inline 6 will match the body and streamline effect of your excellent build. Its a unique uncommon choice, well done, its well suited for your 'one off' build. Keep up the awesome work, we are waiting for your spring break update!
It would be interesting if you have to pay a premium for a gasket set, manual for torquing all the bolts, and if course bearings and carb rebuild kits. Good luck.
There's thousands of rods with flatheads. There aren't many with Jag 2.4's, particularly ones with an Indycar look. If you can rebuild that engine without taking a huge hit, go for it. And to all who complain about the Jag having less power: Why settle for a flathead? He could build it with an LS crate motor and have plenty of power. But power isn't the point. Stylistic authenticity and beauty are what he's going for and the Jag will deliver both.
When you were removing the bottom end connecting rod caps I think on your pink numbered sheet you put the No 6 cap from the rear of engine in the No 1 position which is usually the front of the engine. This may possibly confuse you later. Good job getting the Jaguar engine to install in your great project.
Any progress on this engine. I agree with you, it's beautiful and will look great in your build. Just curious where you're at with it, what trans you're going to put behind it, etc.
I applaud you on your choice of engines for your roadster. 95% of hotrods have the usual 350 Chevy with an auto trans. It's just not right. Hope for your continued success on this beauty.
I'm collecting parts to build a special for some years now. I too have a 2.4 for it, connected to a 5 speed LT77 transmission, some of the parts for those engines are hard or impossible to get (damper for example), I'm trying to age it to make it look more like an early race twin cams. I really like Jags engines, they are great and perform very well. I restore jags for a living but as a bodyman and had the chance of driving the 3.4, 3.8 and the 4.2, never the 2.4.
Wow, I was loving that flat-head Ford but that motor is a definite score! It fits the build way better. I hope everything checks out at the machine shop.
Am I the only one who noticed that he undid the head bolts from one end to the other instead of using a helical pattern starting from the ends of the head and working into the middle of the head? Does he know that you can warp the head doing the way he did?
My dad is a retired master woodworker/string instrument builder. He's one of these elderly people who never learned the internet, but he wanted me to pass his regards on to you and mention that he understands how difficult it would be to be mastering so many fields and mediums simultaneously.
This is the perfect engine for your speedster. The flathead is nice, but this twincam is one of the most beautiful and reliable “ Indy-like engines “ you could have gotten. And who cares that it is a 2.4, it will move you along just fine. Superb choice. And it will sound SO right. If you want, I do have an early e-type 4 speed gearbox (moss, non-synchro first) that I can contribute and ship to you. I do not have the bellhousing though, and jaguar bellhousings, flywheels and starter combos are a bit voodoo. Keep going, you are on a roll!
The internet has a way of bringing out the best and the worst of people. You are definitely one of the former.
Paul Rigsby thank you, Paul
Being British and growing up with Jags I see the 2.4 as the baby engine, much preferring the 3.8. However it is the perfect, era correct, look for your project and once set up properly will live forever, under-stressed and smooth. These old girls like to be looked after and reward a careful owner, sounding perfect with a good exhaust note. You seem to have later model exhaust manifolds already. Cars like yours would be tuned and regularly upgraded as parts became available so feel free to enhance the look with side draught or at least a 3 SU carb set up with polished trumpets or air filters and maybe a race looking exhaust manifold (with or without wrap). An Alloy radiator could be dressed up with some brass trim and some classic red or yellow braided HT leads etc. It might be nice to paint the engine block in British Racing Green enamel but please keep and polish the hell out of all the alloy parts, they are priceless.
Agree!!! Absolutely British racing green for the engine.
Love the look of polished brass on top of that green on the old European sports cars!
She would sound so beautiful in motion breathing through triple SUs. A-6 would have been nice, Yes. But that little thing hardly weighs an ounce. I think it will motivate pretty damn fast down the road.
My first car at age 16 was a Mk2 3.8 liter Jag...that started a life of 15 years of restoring Jaguars...They are prone to getting cracks in the aluminum head and or corrosion. If the head is good, your in great shape...if not, well that will be another story. Everything else you said in the video is spot on...great choise for this build...you remind me of a younger me, as I have followed you build...I had a coach builder friend around the corner from my shop and an English motor shop down the street...both were invaluable in my early days...Great work...Keep it up.
great to have you watching!
Correction, I do have the bellhousing that goes with the moss gearbox. You are welcome to it as well.
If you have to replace the pistons you could over-bore the cylinders to accept the pistons from the 3.4 litre engine. Using the 2.4 connecting rods gives you a short stroke 3.0 litre engine which really goes. ( I read about this mod years ago and I am not positive it wasn't the 3.8 pistons, but you would no doubt find out about this fairly easily). Food for thought.
I really like what you are doing and undoubtedly the Jaguar unit suits the pre war racer look absolutely. All the best from the UK. Simon Webley
With that Jaguar engine powering this ultra-light aluminum-bodied speedster - it is going to be a handful to keep it tamed and on the road. Since you're using a Jaguar engine, I think it should have an English burl wood dash with a compliment of Smith's gauges. Make sure you have real leather seating too. These period touches add to the authenticity of the builds overall ode to the 1930s automotive period.
I agree with you it will be a handful, the steering wheel should be a 4 spoke and as you say leather or rope www.mgexp.com/phile/46/514272/wheel.jpeg as for the dash a sports car like this I would reckon an alloy engine-turned dash with your Smiths instruments, I think would more suits a grand tourer. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/1931_Bugatti_type_35A-51_Grand_Prix_%285%29.jpg But hey we all see things differently and is what makes it interesting. Whatever he does this young guy is doing great quality work I'm sure you would agree.
you have great taste yes it would look awesome.
The Jaguar engine is a wonderful choice. It will give your Indy Speedster the aura of the Miller or Duesenderg specials of the 1930s. Jaguar won Le Mans with your engine in the C and D types in the 1950s. Great work.
I found you channel thanks to the Flathead video but changing the engine doesn't change how awesome this project is. Great job
I wish I had a dad with all these tools growing up lol you’re blessed kid.
You can do everything he's done here without all those tools. It's nice to have those tools, but they're not required to do the same level of quality work.
BIG WIGGLE well.... I didn’t want to be that guy who says “must be nice to have all that money as a kid” but... not everyone could do that no.
@@haydenblack5648 then don't be the guy who is held back with jealousy. Sure, it would have been nice to have access to that kinda equipment when I was his age, but I didn't and I still managed to get things done. Plus, it's really not that hard to accumulate all those tools over decades like I'm sure his dad has. His dad's just nicer than I am and let's his son use em. Plus have you seen the videos where this young man went to the junk yard and found ALL KINDS of awesome metal working tools?!?! Thats how you do it.
BIG WIGGLE yeah? Where’s your homemade Sherman tank and what did it cost you? Also what are you trying to prove? Lol
BIG WIGGLE all I said was he grew up with guidance and a father that funded his ambition to some extent. Why are you calling me jealous and acting like you know me or something?
I think that is the perfect engine for your speedster!
It’s very clean on the inside. Someone took good care of it and changed the oil frequently.
Think it’s a great engine as well my only concern is part availability for it...
That engine was, as you know, fitted to a car weighing over two tons - it should be entertaining! They are silky smooth when running right and I have driven a few cars fitted with this and the more modern version. This is a great series and I am insanely jealous of your skills!
Great to have you watching!
i know its hard to believe but just discovered ur site. totally enthralled n amazed. my son is 24 and hes been fabricating drift cars and numerous other customers custom projects. tho no where near his ability ive always wanted to do a build like yours. def going to go back thru all videos from start n hopefully begin a build with him using u as a template...thanx for the inspiration n showing that its possible without a mega dollar shop n tools
Engine machinist here. Some things to consider regarding your Jaguar engine. As it happens, I've been inside one off these engines, albeit a tad older (1954 3.8L).
First, you will want to save up some money to have hardened exhaust valve seats installed in the head. Back in the day there used to be lead in the gasoline, and it would act as a semi-liquid wear surface on the soft valve seat. Since you'll be using modern unleaded gasoline, the valve is going to beat the soft seat to death, unless you either get the hardened exhaust valve seats, or, if you can find it, you could use a liquid lead substitute fuel additive every time you fill up.
Second, if you decide to hop up the engine with some racy camshafts, I would highly recommend you check the piston-to-valve clearance. There's nothing worse than the piston crashing into the still open valves as it's coming up the bore.
Third, while you have the head being worked on at the machine shop, have them modify the valve guides to accept positive valve stem seals. They last much longer than the old school seals, and they work better. Besides, you don't want your freshly built motor to smoke and burn oil.
Fourth, you might investigate the possibility of installing a more modern rear main seal. That was one of those jobs we didn't do on the aforementioned Jag engine. This is mainly to reduce oil consumption, and to prevent that typical British engine oil leak.
Fifth, if you want to raise the compression on the engine to increase the power, I would recommend keeping the compression ratio somewhere in the neighborhood of 9:1 to 9.5:1. You'll have plenty of power, and you'll be able to use Regular 87 octane gasoline instead of Premium. Plus, keeping the compression down below 9.5:1 will increase the longevity of the motor. The bottom end won't be overtaxed or overstressed.
I think you've got yourself a really nice engine there, and it's a great unique choice for a one-of-a-kind car like what you're building.
Ahh. . .an engine that looks like a six cylinder version of a Meyer-Drake/Offenhauser! When polished up, as you say, beautiful and elegant. Great choice.
Downdraft carburetors and a steel oil pan. Jaguar all right, just has had a rogue life! Certainly pleased that you knew about the studs under the cam drive cover at the front of the head. So many 'Merican mechanics back in "the day" broke the head prying on the front section!
Those old Jag engines always have really fresh oil in them. The dirty oil naturally ends up on the driveway ;)
Seriously though, it is a good looking motor. I'm sure it will work great.
Can’t wait for your summer break. We want more, fantastic build.
I agree !!!
the flathead was neat but the Jag is going to crazy, love it
Love watching your craftsmanship throughout the build. I'll miss the flathead.
I rebuilt a late 1968 ish? 4.2l jaguar i6 a few years ago. I got lucky enough to find a british specialty shop near me that let me trace their cam position/ timing tool so i could duplicate it at home and not have to buy one. Other then that the valve tappet shims was a bit tedious to make right as i had a few valves replaced but they were cheap and easy to find even in stainless steel. Also the oil feed banjo fittings on the back of the head are easy to forget about when u cannot see them. Other then that its simple engine building. And im not sure if its common or not but the factory distributor was cracked above the drive gear and i was able to find an aftermarket flamethrower? For pennys compared to repops.
I am currently just finishing a 1932 ford roadster. It’s powered by a 1952 Jag engine that looks like yours.
,but came out of a MK VII salon. I also used the moss four speed. Not happy with that so I agree that the
Five speed is the way to go. I would post photos, but don’t know how that works on a you tube comment.
Great job, I’m a Fan.
Good progress !!! Loving the Jag motor over the Flathead for sure... as I said before you an amazing kid !!!! Thank your parents for me and tell them they raised one Great Kid !!!
You will definitely have to get the cylinders re-honed professionally with over size piston rings. In purchasing all new gaskets, I would also cough up the price for new head bolts, cam chain and timing gear. Unless you're going to do a complete rebuild, its not really worth the effort.
I would also have the head done with new valves and springs. Have you got the gearbox and figured out leg room with pedals yet? It looks like close quarters with steering, exhaust and pedals all on the same side. Keep everything all bearing caps , con rods and pistons separated and numbered as you are going along this is very important.
Awesome job on the body keep up the great work, your not my son but you're making me proud.
keep up the good work and don't quit.
You beat me to it. I agree 100% and I also kinda cringed when he was removing the head which could cause more warping. Cool idea in lieu of using the Flathead Ford engine but he'll have his work cut out for him to do it right. Engine space might be another consideration with all the the elements like brake master cylinders, clutch hydraulics, exhaust manifold, generator (alternator?) radiator, steering box...etc...etc....Good catch and feel like I'm not alone however, this young man is not only teaching himself, he's teaching others of his generation as well. Kudo's to that!
Did you not watch to the end of the video?
@@TheFlatlander440 steering box is already in so radiatior and master cylinder. Old school on the brakes would be a master cylinder under the floor.
@@naberville3305 Perhaps. But will he be going old school? I hope he does. That would be cool. It will still require more on the fly engineering which he has proved he can accomplish. Cheers!
@@TheFlatlander440 when I chatted with him early on he was tempted to do mechanical brakes but reluctantly decided hydraulic drums would be safer. So yeah. Definitely old school. Though considering it's a 200hp at 6800rpm (Jesus that's gonna sound niiiiice) motor.. he's gonna want at least a brake booster. Which they do make for that style.
Duuuude!!! You are the f'ing man, man!!! Your build skills at your age are unmatched! I don't think I could do half of what you've done here and I'm almost 40.
I cant wait to see it with all the louvers. Louvers can make a soccer mom's van look cool. Louvers also make it look more like a salt flats racer than an Indy racer to me, especially having an oddball engine like that Jaguar engine, which I think looks perfect between the rails of your car. And I am a die hard flathead engine guy. They come with their own issues, but with today's technology, a lot of those issues have been eliminated. But that Jaguar motor looks beautiful in there. I just hope you can get it all back together and have her purring like a Jaguar again.
I have heard of people calling these the small block chevy of Britain. Needs a set of side-draft webers!
My exact thoughts, especially the webers. If you plan on keeping the car do a first class rebuild and it will last for your grandkids to drive.
You are a brave man to take on a project like that but will be so happy when complete, One of my good friends back in the 60,s had a father who was a British mechanic and he hated to work on the overhead cam engines as they were so difficult to time and set up the valves. In that era you could buy kits to change out your Jag motor for a Chev. in the XKE Sport car. At that time I was offered a 1953 Jaguar Sedan for $30.00 .
Nice engine! I hope it comes back to life. If not clean it up and it will be an awesome display piece of classic automotive history.
Your channel showed up in my recommended videos. Holy crap, your work would be impressive for an old school pro, but for someone as young as you appear to be, it's nothing short of amazing! You've got yourself a new fan and subscriber.
great to have you watching!
You should enter this in the Jay Leno/Pebble beach "Under 30" thing...
The Jaguar six cylinder engine is without a doubt one of the most beautiful engines ever made. And looks perfect in your car! A few notes of caution; valve lash can be tricky to set perfectly, but a lot of patience will help you with that. Carburetors synchronization is tough, no doubt about it, but can be helped along with intelligent linkage design. I have no doubt you'll figure it out.
Very interesting engine! Glad to see you didn’t go with a boring old 350.
I love it. Jaguar power is something not seen much in builds like yours. Unique car with an interesting engine. Good luck with it
Just found your channel, I’m very impressed with your ability.
And just when I thought this build couldn't get any better. Great choice on the engine
Thumbs up on the engine change! More racecar, less boat!
The exhaust note alone is worth the work involved! Besides, it will look far more suitable in that body than a flathead. If you want to go "all out" install three Webers on it. Of course, you might have to get a second mortgage on your house.
I hope you marked the main caps in some manner so that they go back in the same position. I'm also a bit surprised that the machine shop didn't want the main caps with the block. A good inspection would include checking the main bore center line.
yeah I kept them organized, and they also are stamped from the factory with matching marks on the block so they go back the right way
if you find that the cams are noisy and you can't get a proper shim kit for them..my Dad used to work on a Neighbor's Jag in the 70's(we had a Esso service station for 35 years) and he solved the noisy tappets by using dimes under the Valve caps ..just file them down to the correct size and bingo works like a charm..by the way I think your doing a Great Job ..thanks for sharing ..stay safe..
Great score on the Jag motor! I'm hoping it will be rebuildable! It will look very classy! And yes, a T-5 is the way to go. Less fuss and muss! Such a cool build, Kudos!!
In all seriousness, the XK6 is one of the greatest engines of all time, often overlooked in North America.
These were designed *during* WW2, and were some of the most advanced production engines of their time. Heck, the D-Type Jaguars literally drove themselves off the ferries, to Le Mans, won, and then drove back to Coventry, England.
I don't know if any other Le Mans Winners drove as far to and from track, fascinating.
The exhaust note will be beautiful and the low end torque will be more than adequate in such a light chassis. Love where you are going with your project...have fun!
Way cool idea, run the exhaust out the side like was popular. Tearing a jag motor down with no experience is......gutsy, don't get discouraged you have a real gem.
Hats off.
Not sure if Borg Warner furnished the manual transmissions for this particular engine, they did supply the automatics I believe. The engine stock produces about 120 BHP so it won't take a very beefy gearbox.
Perfect choice of engine, I love the 2.4, I think it’s underrated and most go for its bigger brothers.
I’m surprised the head came off so easy, we used to jack the cars up by the head, leave them overnight and just wait for them to come loose. You got lucky
I am going to stop watching. I wasted my time watching you start a project that I liked and now it is changed into something about
U still amaze me young man!😊
Man... I haven't seen one of those old 2.4l I6 Jag engines in a LONG time. Your build is going to be awesome!
Your car will be an awesome one. I am mostly impressed by your tenacity & knowledge. Thank you for sharing.
Top job dude! Two thumbs up. You are a master in your craft. Can't wait to see you take her for a spin.
I had to break away before I finished watching so I have a new question
You sent the block to the machine shop without the main bearing caps in place?
I really enjoy your videos and look forward to them. Keep up the good work.
omg , that Jag engine is 100% the way to go !!
I envy the heck out of your workshop and tools.
Ah the elegance of a jaguar, fierce machinery that will break into a thousand pieces if you look at it wrong, but until then, what a beast
Absolutely agree with you, a super combination! Can't wait to see the engine running in your stunning car!!!
Just came across your channel. Really like your work so far. Looking forward to seeing this classic come to life.
Flathead V8's are awesome... but you're right, the Jag motors look and sound like something out of a Spitfire! I rebuilt and XJ6 motor in my garage at home... loved every minute of it, even if getting the head off was an absolute pig... 😀
XK is such a beautiful piece of engineering, good choice 👍
"Elegant" you hit the nail on the head right there.
Now you know why the oil pan only had 4 bolts and the conrod caps were loose.
Hopefully it is all saveable.
It was great to see you removing parts and keeping them sorted by cylinder but when unbolting things like the head or crankshaft you should always do it in reverse order of the tightening/torque sequence.
I recently saw pictures of a Bugatti Roadster and aside from being right hand drive it looked exactly like the body you are building right down to the placement of the stamped louvers on the boat tail that you haven’t shown yet on TH-cam.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
haha yeah I definitely got a lot of inspiration from the Bugatti speedsters!
the jag 6 is a great design, beautiful to look at and to hear, and a great racing pedigree. my understanding is they are costly to rebuild which is why many swapped out blown engines with small black chevys. things i'd suggest considering is weight and cost v. the flathead, and whether that banjo rear can handle the torque of that six.
The Flathead puts out 245Nm at 2000rpm, whereas that 2,4liter (146ci) puts out 191Nm also at 2000 rpm and 120hp at 5720rpm... Not bad for 60% of the Ford's total displacement.
Blown engine blocks is due to people not letting the engine warm up (it can take up to 15miles) before welding the pedal to the floor. If the banjo rear is know to handle a 4liter Flathead boat anchor, it'll be fine with that XK240 ^^
@@jean-charlesweyland129 you're answering to comments i didn't make.
@@Ecosse57 Only on the cost factor didn't I reply dear Sir, your other affirmations are correct.
European prices can't be compared with US/Canadian ones. Those engines (in their smallest -yet great- configuration) aren't as common as it's 4,2l big brother. Therefore less specialist and parts are to be found on your side of the pond... wich doesn't imply that prices are high because the 2,4 liter is a sought after rare beast, but by the fact that you have to custom make what you can't find like pistons for exemple.
Flathead parts are not that cheap either.
In dealing with the later xj40s, I never crossed paths with a single overly expensive part. Max was about 10% more than regular Aussie car parts (brake rotors). The whole chev swap was more like yanks think anything less than a v8 isn't a real motor- and that some jags used a turbo trans meant an easy, cheap convert.
Seeing you use that adjustable spanner on the crank bolt was painful, lol. Otherwise you do great work, it's very inspiring. Thanks for the videos. Another way to get off bolts on rotating assemblies is with an impact gun. Can't wait to see this finished!
Perfect choice of engine - it will look so period and correct and will sound fantastic.
I really hope you'll get it running because that thing will be beautiful! 😀
Idk how i havent found this before. Super rad.
what a dynamic job you are upto mate...very little have a refined dream as this & the rarest of rare would pursue this, keep posting your lovely creativity... i wish you good luck to infinity !!!!!
great to have you watching!
Unless you acquired the bellhousing/transmission with the engine , you are going to need an adapter plate to mount a transmission . Good luck with your project , it's great to see you learning so many skills !
I'm planning to make an adapter for a t5 trans
@@MacroMachines the later model XK 6 and V12 were mated to GM auto trans . Not sure about earlier 6 cyl. Good hunting !
MacroMachines I made a couple of adapter plates for adapting t5s to my flathead fords. Well worth the effort.
I have never seen that block cleaning process. If you could make a short video on that process it would be most appreciated.
For info on these Jag engines, there is an awesome TH-camr called "Richard Michael Owen". He restores old Jags with, I think, his father. They have great videos on the subject and would be a good place to go with questions.
yeah I saw the series he did on the 4.2L, definitely helpful
This thing is awesome keep up the hard work man
Good choice, I'm a classic jaguar owner and i can confirm that that engine is a beauty! Great to see you, great job.
How is that motor repair coming along.
Man I love this build:
Well I like everything you’ve done so far ....’always excited to see a new video
Perfect and beautifull engine for your project... polished cover and british racing green block with all the bobs and knobs in glossy black, that would be very nice😊
painted and polished this is going to be such a pretty engine. should easily be more fun to drive than a flatty. should do well over the speedlimit
Beautiful; twin cam straight sixes are perfect for that kind of car 😎👍👍👍
A bit of a change going from a side valve engine to double overhead cam. Still I think the Jag engine will be way better than a dated old flat head, if you don't mind having an engine out of period with your car. You can also get a nice triple SU carb set up as used on the E Type Jag. As said Jag parts are expensive, even over here in the UK but get yourself some warm real beers and enjoy rebuilding it.
Please tell me that you're going with an external exhaust down the side of the car? That'd look great. And you can always put a super charger infront of the radiator grill. ;)
Awesome Engine! Can't wait to see further update
The 2.4's a good revver! It'll be great fun
That engine simply fits, the inline 6 will match the body and streamline effect of your excellent build. Its a unique uncommon choice, well done, its well suited for your 'one off' build. Keep up the awesome work, we are waiting for your spring break update!
I have enjoyed ALL your videos/ You are truly blessed.
That is a short stroked engine wow. I don't think I ever saw one apart before. You're right though it will look very cool.
It would be interesting if you have to pay a premium for a gasket set, manual for torquing all the bolts, and if course bearings and carb rebuild kits.
Good luck.
should sound fantastic.
Perfect choice of engine
Nice choice of engine. I hope you can get her to run. Good job 👍
so whats the latest on the engine? I have a 3.8 that I need to dig into shortly.
There's thousands of rods with flatheads. There aren't many with Jag 2.4's, particularly ones with an Indycar look. If you can rebuild that engine without taking a huge hit, go for it.
And to all who complain about the Jag having less power: Why settle for a flathead? He could build it with an LS crate motor and have plenty of power. But power isn't the point. Stylistic authenticity and beauty are what he's going for and the Jag will deliver both.
The Jag had more power than the flathead if I've read right. 120 in the 6 vs 100 in the V8.
When you were removing the bottom end connecting rod caps I think on your pink numbered sheet you put the No 6 cap from the rear of engine in the No 1 position which is usually the front of the engine. This may possibly confuse you later. Good job getting the Jaguar engine to install in your great project.
Any progress on this engine. I agree with you, it's beautiful and will look great in your build. Just curious where you're at with it, what trans you're going to put behind it, etc.
simple answer would be a Jaguar 4 speed box
I think it'll be a great upgrade and more unique. That motor will be pretty expensive if you ever need parts but no one else will have what you got.
I applaud you on your choice of engines for your roadster. 95% of hotrods have the usual 350 Chevy with an auto trans. It's just not right. Hope for your continued success on this beauty.
What did that come out of? I've only seen them with side draft SUs
This came from a mark I
@@MacroMachines Interesting. Kind of a rare car. Much more than a mk2.
I'm collecting parts to build a special for some years now. I too have a 2.4 for it, connected to a 5 speed LT77 transmission, some of the parts for those engines are hard or impossible to get (damper for example), I'm trying to age it to make it look more like an early race twin cams. I really like Jags engines, they are great and perform very well. I restore jags for a living but as a bodyman and had the chance of driving the 3.4, 3.8 and the 4.2, never the 2.4.
Just curious if you have any of the old Flathead stuff? I am in search of stuff for my 1949-1953 8BA Flathead. Maybe we can figure something out?
Wow, I was loving that flat-head Ford but that motor is a definite score! It fits the build way better. I hope everything checks out at the machine shop.
DUDE! This is gonna be one NIIIIIIIICE car! 💖
No idea how this ended up on my recommended videos to watch but COOL CAR!
Wish we had one in my fathers salvage yard. What 5 speed would bolt up? @graham
Am I the only one who noticed that he undid the head bolts from one end to the other instead of using a helical pattern starting from the ends of the head and working into the middle of the head?
Does he know that you can warp the head doing the way he did?