I stopped buying German tools on Amazon. I use KC Tool to buy anything Knipex, Hazet, Felo, Wera, Gedore, ect... they sell all high quality straight from Germany. I usually order when I need several items because they do have shipping costs. However the prices are always decent.
I bought mine straight from Amazon and had to swap them out twice. The jaws just were not lining up. I also bought the 6inch from an actual Knipex dealer and had to warranty them also due to jaws not lining up straight. I’m thinking it’s demand and supply rushing
I'd love to see the ones u returned, I bet there was nothing wrong with them, and u did it twice because u know more than Knipex quality control 🤦♂️. If u understand the design of this plier style it's ok for a little play. Knipex does NOT sell seconds to ANYONE period. This video is complete rubbish.
None of that’s the case. With manufacturing of literally anything. Each company producing products have a spec’s range. An when molds etc etc are being used. Theirs wear. An at a certain spec after it crosses that point. Molds etc have to be replaced. A you can receive a tool from any range of spec change of molds a grind wheels an every aspect of it. Everything in the process starts at a certain point an ends at their certain point. Just as it begins at whatever spec they choose. I think it’s just more along the lines of tool adjustments an wear of the consumables etc. Kinda like all will be like a snowflake an no two will be exactly the same. Unless you have two tools. A you follow each of the two through the entire process start to finish. An it was one after the other. An no gap of tools made between the two. But at the end of the day it’s still within spec. The only way it won’t be. Is how far apart in batch quantity control is. A they been making tools long enough that I’m sure batch quality control is close enough together they their not going to miss. Complete runs of tools that’s out of spec. An at this point. Their molds an tooling have probably been pretty well perfected so there’s no crazy amount of wire that happens extremely fast that they are caught by surprise. An any major issue through the line of production. Say a shattered grinding wheel on a tool of something. The line would be caught an immediately stopped repaired and started again. With whatever few incomplete tools being put back in positions to be ran through a second time. Atleast my take after being in production in a steel mill for a decade. Compared to some of our production an customer spec range an wear on our machines an what we do with things that may be out of some spec an how fast it’s caught an all that jazz
I returned the ones I just ordered from a third party seller. The machining on them was not great. I ordered some through your link from Amazon and shipped by Amazon. They cost a little more, but it's worth it not to get factory second tools.
You listened to this guy and he has no idea what he's talking about. 'Bulk packaging' is common in Knipex literature, they have 3 types of packaging. Knipex does NOT sell factory seconds to ANYONE period. This video is misleading at best. But if you feel warm & fuzzy getting a carded box and paying more for it, that's fine, but if you think you received factory seconds, you have been misled.
@@aussiehardwood6196 you're right. The pair I got from Amazon was exactly the same as the third party seller. What I thought were flaws were perfectly normal. I've since purchased a bunch of other Knipex tools from third party sellers on Amazon. This video is definitely misleading.
This is a crazy video. You just assume they're "factory seconds" More likely it's OEM packing from a company that buys Knippex by the thousands, and an employee took a bonus when a box "feel off the back" in distribution.
How do you know this? What evidence do you have that Knipex releases "factory seconds" to anyone? Particularly without some identifying mark(s)? Why would they compete with themselves? You just made a statement with no apparent basis in fact.
It's a forged tool, every one is slightly different.
I stopped buying German tools on Amazon. I use KC Tool to buy anything Knipex, Hazet, Felo, Wera, Gedore, ect... they sell all high quality straight from Germany. I usually order when I need several items because they do have shipping costs. However the prices are always decent.
You have been misled too.
I bought mine straight from Amazon and had to swap them out twice. The jaws just were not lining up. I also bought the 6inch from an actual Knipex dealer and had to warranty them also due to jaws not lining up straight. I’m thinking it’s demand and supply rushing
Knipex Zangen sind perfekt!
I'd love to see the ones u returned, I bet there was nothing wrong with them, and u did it twice because u know more than Knipex quality control 🤦♂️. If u understand the design of this plier style it's ok for a little play. Knipex does NOT sell seconds to ANYONE period. This video is complete rubbish.
Third party one looks fine to me. After a days worth of using it and alittle WD you wouldn't know the difference
None of that’s the case. With manufacturing of literally anything. Each company producing products have a spec’s range.
An when molds etc etc are being used. Theirs wear. An at a certain spec after it crosses that point. Molds etc have to be replaced.
A you can receive a tool from any range of spec change of molds a grind wheels an every aspect of it.
Everything in the process starts at a certain point an ends at their certain point. Just as it begins at whatever spec they choose.
I think it’s just more along the lines of tool adjustments an wear of the consumables etc.
Kinda like all will be like a snowflake an no two will be exactly the same.
Unless you have two tools. A you follow each of the two through the entire process start to finish. An it was one after the other. An no gap of tools made between the two.
But at the end of the day it’s still within spec. The only way it won’t be.
Is how far apart in batch quantity control is.
A they been making tools long enough that I’m sure batch quality control is close enough together they their not going to miss. Complete runs of tools that’s out of spec.
An at this point. Their molds an tooling have probably been pretty well perfected so there’s no crazy amount of wire that happens extremely fast that they are caught by surprise.
An any major issue through the line of production. Say a shattered grinding wheel on a tool of something. The line would be caught an immediately stopped repaired and started again.
With whatever few incomplete tools being put back in positions to be ran through a second time.
Atleast my take after being in production in a steel mill for a decade. Compared to some of our production an customer spec range an wear on our machines an what we do with things that may be out of some spec an how fast it’s caught an all that jazz
That would be like faking $1 bills. Not worth it 😂
I returned the ones I just ordered from a third party seller. The machining on them was not great. I ordered some through your link from Amazon and shipped by Amazon. They cost a little more, but it's worth it not to get factory second tools.
You listened to this guy and he has no idea what he's talking about. 'Bulk packaging' is common in Knipex literature, they have 3 types of packaging. Knipex does NOT sell factory seconds to ANYONE period. This video is misleading at best. But if you feel warm & fuzzy getting a carded box and paying more for it, that's fine, but if you think you received factory seconds, you have been misled.
@@aussiehardwood6196 you're right. The pair I got from Amazon was exactly the same as the third party seller. What I thought were flaws were perfectly normal. I've since purchased a bunch of other Knipex tools from third party sellers on Amazon. This video is definitely misleading.
Knipex makes some of the best pliers in the world but packages them like dollar store trinkets.
This is a crazy video. You just assume they're "factory seconds" More likely it's OEM packing from a company that buys Knippex by the thousands, and an employee took a bonus when a box "feel off the back" in distribution.
third party sellers almost always sell factory seconds quality is always worse
How do you know this? What evidence do you have that Knipex releases "factory seconds" to anyone? Particularly without some identifying mark(s)? Why would they compete with themselves? You just made a statement with no apparent basis in fact.
They not knock offs..they're seconds and thirds.. You get what you pay for..They're both Knipex..
Incorrect. Wrong.
Knipex has no seconds. They are all hand controlled and tested. There is a Video of the Factory in german at Bauforum24.