I'm an ISTP and I recognized MBTI as a potential instruction manual on being human. Why wouldn't I embrace it? I see life as a personal journey of self development, to become the best person I could possibly become, given my limitations and vulnerabilities.
Funny, I am INFP and I see it in a similar light, but more like it's a guiding manual for understanding other humans, because I am so in touch with myself but struggle with the tribe, I initially got into MBTI because I wanted to understand what makes other people tick :)
Dave B I feel like if you embrace it you become “limited”, people seem to take the test, find their type and then try to be like that stereotype as much as possible, I’m not a fan of this shit.
I'm an ISTP and I thought I wasted a lot of time watching videos on TH-cam all day long since the beginning of the pandemic. And one of the things I watched the most of was filmmaking, I watched a lot of movies and series and cartoons. Now I have a huge library of knowledge about filmmaking in my head. And I learned about 3D animation and tradicional animation. And now I'm starting with the pre-production of my animated Short film, it's a long term project and I hate long commitments but it's something I have to get over in order to do more things
There is something appealing about it to an ISTP mindset. I'm a Christian, but I'd be a liar to say that I haven't had some influence by Stoic and Zen philosophies.
How did you teach yourself this? I have trouble with it and cant help but shutdown emotionally and shutdown communication when it comes to emotions or feelings?
@@johnnyringo4463 A lot of it is connected with self-control. So when I want to turn on emotions, I just let go of control. But it’s a tricky thing, ‘cause it’s the whole range of emotions that come, not just the ones I want. Also forgetfulness and being late, which is not common for me at all. But it’s also fun, like some other side of me.
@@tanikaUU thanks for the quick reply. Figured a 2year old post wouldnt get a response. Lol. I want to be able to turn on emotions but control them. 🤣. When i cant control it, i hit the big nuke it all button and just try to win the argument anyway possible. Ill say stuff just to try and make her cry, or get her so pissed she leaves. I want to be able to control it. This is arguing with an ISTJ woman so that might be a whole other set of problems. Lol. You dont ever lose control of your emotions and mess things up?
I’ve taken MBTA a few times when younger across my 26 year military career. Thought it was liberal arts social science BS. I can look back now and know my self assessment was clouded between who I was and who the military made me. Now learning up on this I’m amazed at how precise it is. I’m not there yet with eh all the terms abbreviations, but I’m having fun learning for now.
I’m an INTJ in a long term relationship with an ISTP. Easiest relationship I’ve ever had. We are both secret romantics and enjoy guiding each other out of our comfort zones -I say “guiding” because we approach each other’s underdeveloped sides with a gentle, mentoring kind of coercion, which is really the best way to describe it 😎
Yes!! I don't hear a lot about INTJ- ISTP couples but I've literally never seen a healthier match in person. You described it accurately for my case as well. ISTP are so grounded and aware and they really teach you with respect and they're ALWAYS learning by observation and experiences! It's fascinating that we're so different but we balance and develop each other.
I'm a ISTP. But procrastination is a huge thing in my live. I somehow have enough control over it that I can still work and do the necessary daily chores. But I never do any free time projects because I never start them. Or if I start them, I won't procced with them on the next day.
That's the Oe curse. Start actually putting in some time on your Ni plan for what you really wanna get out of life. That's the next step I would recommend.
More or less yes. It's entirely impractical to "cut out" the gathering of interesting things entirely, but the goal is to add some level of focus and prioritization. The main step I would take is to just sit down with a piece of paper (or spreadsheet or whatever) and just write out all the projects that you want to do in your free time (i.e. learn a new language, join a rec sports team, learn to cook/bake, create a system for exercise, etc.). Then really think through which are the biggest priorities and which would be "nice but not necessary" (The NF thought experiment I used was "If I only had ten years left to live, what would I REALLY regret not doing?" ). Then take your biggest priority and take only the first smallest step toward that goal (i.e. if your highest priority goal is to learn French, say, go and buy a book for complete beginners). Then, give yourself just ten to fifteen minutes a day to work on that goal. Don't try and get it all done at once. Baby steps.
@@shiro1744 My problem is that the thing I want to do can't be done in just ten minutes per day. At least I don't know how. It would be making some low level game development in c++. There the reading into what you did last takes more than 10 minutes.
Still trying to find my type. I thought I was a Fi dom but man I can't even confront some emotions. I try to find reasons for them then just discard them entirely.
My dad is ~ENTJ married to an ~ISTP female, and I have to say - she is an amazing mom. Without her, I would have grown to be a far weaker female I think.
My wife is an ISTP. She’s amazing. I’m an INTP and need someone in my life as grounded as she is. There are no emotional games with her. She’s upfront and honest. She doesn’t love all the abstract nonsense I do, but she’s intelligent enough to follow it (if only to shut me up for a while). She’s cool under pressure, etc. From what I understand it is rare for an INTP to be happy in a relationship. I am lucky she went after me like she did.
My brother's an ISTP, but he's Ti-Ni and stuck in a perpetual rut. He's Sleep-Consume-Blast-Play. He is extremely disconnected with his Se, which gets him to feel energized and actually _think_ . He obviously has low-grade depression but it also has lots to do with his inability to put himself in the shoes of the tribe. He's lost many chances by choosing to not collaborate at all with others and being in other words, an asshole. We had an abusive upbringing and I was the one who took responsibility of being the more prolific sibling, even if I'm the youngest. So I do get why he's the way he is, his way of coping with the trauma was though Freeze response. I get it. But we left five years ago. He can start healing now. He has more chances than I do. It just frustrates me seeing someone who can do much better pretty much rot away.
Feel free to contradict me and be skeptical of what I’m about to tell you. This INTP welcomes the challenge. FYI - I have a history of abuse too, both childhood and adulthood, and like every living human, I have a history of depression. Don’t say your sorry - I’m not. Lol. I mention it to give my words credibility. This was my catalyst to perform the ridiculous amount of research I’ve done on the subject. Disclaimer: I have no pedigree papers by which to claim to be a professional. Conventional wisdom suggests you don’t listen to a word I say. Now for my point. You’ve been lied to a lot. Not deliberately. But society convinced you of stuff that isn’t true regarding abuse and depression, and that’s where your frustration is coming from. These are ballpark guesses - I don’t personally know you. Here are my guesses: You’re frustrated because you’re convinced there’s a solution to your brother’s depression and he’s just not doing it. You think if he could just listen or follow good advice that would fix the problem. You’re afraid because you think if he doesn’t change, his future life will suck. You feel a sense of pressure or anxiety about the amount of time he’s been in this state. You think he’s wasting his life being depressed and if he doesn’t snap out of it, maybe he never will. Those fears aren’t logical, true, or accurate, and that’s not your fault. You think that way because society thinks that way. That perspective is the way you were taught to look at this problem. There is a thing you can and should do about your brothers depression. The sooner you start, the better for the both of you. You need to learn. A lot. It has to become a habit for you. But importantly, you need to stay the heck away from psychology and sociology. Those come last. They’re full of info that is either inaccurate or too easily misinterpreted by someone who doesn’t have a powerful foundation in the hard sciences. Also, don’t partake in corporate media - it will make you stupid. The reason you need to learn is because the things you fear aren’t real fears. But you won’t believe that until you understand why those fears aren’t real. Believe it or not, what your brother needs the most from you is for you to not be afraid, and to have faith in who he is as a person and in his ability to fix his own problems. The depressed mind is very vulnerable to the opinions of the tribe. When a depressed person is surrounded by people who pity them and think they need help and advice, they can lose faith in their own ability to help themselves. In the same way, excessive empathy and compassion can also be destructive. They can actually enable depression. Don’t feel guilty for showing love and even sometimes fear on your brothers behalf. Being cared about by people is really important for his psyche. However, learn to keep that fear in check. It’s not realistic. It’s not the truth. The good news is that your brother is fine. Nothing is wrong with either of you. You’re not damaged. Your history doesn’t prevent you from being happy or achieving the same level of success as everyone else. And the good news is that your brother will get there. His body needs to go through this process. Its a requirement for the growth he’s going to get later. The human brain is built to be depressed - and for good reason. That’s where most of our learning and ambition comes from. We also have to experience depression in situations that require adaptation. Everybody gets depressed multiple times in their lives - it’s natural and normal. It’s also incredibly predictable. The kind of depression your brother has right now is almost certainly in response to his life transition. Going from an abusive environment to an environment where he is now able to explore himself. Depending on your age, it’s also very likely that he’s suffering through an identify crisis. Everybody suffers through it. The unlucky people who don’t get it early get it way worse later in life. It’s like chicken pox. Loving someone in pain really sucks. Especially when there’s nothing you can do about it. But there’s no point in suffering even more because you’re believing things that aren’t true. Your brother? He’s going to be just fine. You’re also going to be just fine. Not sure if anyone told you that. Being abused doesn’t make you who you are - and by the way - major props to you for your heckin awesome attitude. The sense of responsibility you have is super rare, and scientific studies have shown a correlation between that attitude and heroic behavior. Like running into burning buildings to save babies behavior. So cool. At the same time, I think it’s actually really probable that you’re depressed as well. There’s a good chance you don’t realize it. There’s different types of depression. Yours sounds like it might be related to a GABA imbalance. Personality theory is excellent for self-growth, but it doesn’t explain who you are. It just explains the way you think. Unfortunately, although I love OPT - it’s not going to help you pull yourself out of depression. Depression is biological. What it will do, though, is give you the instruction manual to self-growth and human relationships. Super useful! But not the cure to depression. Sorry. For information on that, I recommend the following books: The Upward Spiral The Mood Cure The Mood Cure will probably be most beneficial for you. The upward spiral could help your brother, if he’s willing to read it. The best way to get him interested is if you read it and start telling him about what you’ve learned. One last thing. It’s just an idea. Maybe it doesn’t fit into the context of your relationship with your bro. But if it would work it can be really helpful. First, take the test in the mood cure and see if you identify with any of the depression types. If you do, start working on yourself...and let your brother help you. Ask him for advice. If he’s older and he’s a thinking type, maybe even ask him if he thinks certain things are true or what his take on it is. This won’t work if I’m wrong about you being in a depression swing...you can’t just “pretend”. People know when you’re lying and that can hurt way more. But if you can genuinely try to learn about your own depression and genuinely find ways your brother can help you grow, you might find that he’s able to see his own problems much more clearly just by helping you with yours. It’s weird the way the mind works. Sometimes the best gift you can give someone is the willingness to let them help you. Helping others is one of the best ways to build confidence, happiness, and the motivation to improve. When I say “let him help” though - I don’t mean you should go crying to him with your deep, painful emotional baggage. Especially if he’s a dominant T and depressed, it’s better if you don’t. Let him help you by using the functions he’s good at. That’s always going to be true, by the way. That letting other types help you by doing what they do best is the key to building bonds and facilitating each other’s self-growth. It’s what Steven Covey refers to as codependency. (Don’t Google it, it’s also a psych term) If you’re ever feeling directionless in life and you don’t know how to fix your problems, read the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. I have a lot of information to share if you want more details. Questions are encouraged. If you want, I can even help you work out a plan for how to learn what you need to know and give you an estimate on time, cost, and ways to do it for free. Well then. Thanks for the comment. ~ Good luck human PS: 5 years is definitely not enough time to recover from long term abuse. He’s not as far behind as you seem to think he is.
Are you sure he is really an ISTP. I used to think I was something else because, as it turns out, trauma can degrade you further and further away from your real type. A degraded ISTP turns into more and more of an unsure people pleaser who is trying to fit into the tribe and keeps trying to make plans but never gets anything done. It sounds like he is exhibiting ISTP tendencies, as you see it, now while he is malfunctioning. Which means he is more likely to be an ESFP ir ISFP or INTJ or INFJ, if I remember correctly.
ISTP here. I just discovered this channel a few hours ago and it's already changing my life! Thank you so much! It's remarkable that the information is so concise and digestible, none of those 30min videos to nowhere, fake self-development, feel-good BS. I am very grateful and respect you immensely for this. I also love how much fun you two are having. What an amazing dynamic to watch!
I think being an ISTP is awesome! Fixing all the things, partaking in risky behavior, zen AF (unless you get in the way) Aloof would be a bit of an understatement however. IDRlabs had a good quote, "it's not that I'm too cool for you guys, but now I have to go do cool things without you, mmkay?"
I wish I knew an ISTP handyman to hire. I get so tired of people who want lots of money but never actually accomplish things. Well, this one guy might have been ISTP. He was a vet and he did great work. Unfortunately he had a stepson he was trying to train, whose name was Brian. That's all I have to say about that.
yeah unfortunately a lot of people suck, but still charge you expert rates. they're really only looking to work with higher end people who aren't going to complain. What I've learned is you basically need to be making over $100k/yr to be able to afford for people to build/fix things for you@@arlettasloan6453
Ok, let me get this straight. Dave, MF-Ni/Fi-SB/P, thinks, ISTPs, specifically FF-Ti/Se-CP/S, are the best. They're: - Consume/Play (both of Dave's demons) - Double observers (unlike Dave) - Easy going with saviour Se - Thinking types Not saying they aren't epic. But it seems the grass is always greener on the other side.
Function Flow: A life-map for meaning th-cam.com/video/c0nv5Qswwyg/w-d-xo.html They previously covered a video regarding the “recommended function flow” which is another reason why Dave is fanboying over the ISTPs. The stock ISTP’s functions naturally follows that function flow; which is pretty cool. 😎
Jesus. I'm bored from how surface-level and watered down various videos about my type based on Myers-Briggs were, and then I find this video that just makes everything I was uncertain about and conditioned to repress since I was a child all so crystal clear. Like giving me actual factors and explanations for why the big ol' logic machine churning in my head seems to sputter and die at processing emotions despite me being able to identify them and see them in action. 6:15 onward was like a big slap in the face to me that woke me up from a nightmare honestly. Made me realize I'm NOT crazy after all, I finally understand what I want and how I want it without caring why, when it's obvious it was all just to be better for myself and adapt to every problem I want to solve. On a side note I am definitely Ti-Ni but I feel like I can absolutely become Ti-Se if I learn to somehow balance my sense of self with my perception of society so I don't go into my head because I'm scared of interacting with people.
@@aubreys1675 it's the Ti/Ni loops!! I have a friend who desperately try's to convince herself shes an INFJ, when really shes just an unhealthy ISTP in an Ti/Ni loop.
I agree with this video because ISTP's are really down-to-earth. Yes, as a Ni-dom speaking here, intuitives are somewhat overrated because we are often detached from reality for what is really out there.
Understanding personality typing helps me to have compassion for my ISTP Mom. She was emotionally shut down. Her figurative "heart" had a triple reinforced wall around it. An incredible "doer" but a terrible "feeler." I have finally understood that she just wasn't 'competent' when it came to processing emotions and nurturing herself, so how could she be emotionally supportive toward her children? My task is: 1) to forgive her for not learning to be emotionally competent and 2) to heal my pain by taking responsibility for what I need and providing it for mySelf.
Oh, my mother is an ENFJ and I am the ISTP one. When I was in my darkest days, I was hurting her emotionally by being a stone-hearted daughter. I have a really high respect for ENFJs because of her. They put someone else's feelings above theirs. A really beautiful and selfless type.
my mom is istp too and i can relate to that. I have hard time forgiving her for being detached from feelings because i struggle with them a lot rn, though I try to help her
ISTP females- none that I have ever met- are detached from their feelings in that sort of way. That sounds maybe more like INTJ or was that INTP. Anyway, Frank James does a stellar representatiion of a very detached seeming mom who says "What? I'm not a monster!" near the end after she does something less Spock like. ISTP "detachment" is more like being calm in a criss. Like when my kids were crying because there was a sudden wind storm that caused everyone to run screaming and the tent we were under was falling and the poles were falling and almost clobbering people and one very big metal pole fell right at me and I caught it right before it hit my face, pushed it back into place and held it and while my dad was showing off that he was putting the tent back together I said something like "Yeah, very cute old man. Now get over here and take this. I need my hand free for the other kids before they wander off." and then people forgot the wind because, there was some cutesty tootsie fat chick with four kids in a black velvet dress and no shoes holding up the middle of the tent. None of that is bragging. I hope it didn't come off that way. We just wanted to have a normalish day out with children.
Been married to an ISTP for 15 years and I can say.. they are the best. ❤ as long as you can understand their Ti for what it is instead of "constant criticism"
Agreed that ISTP is the best type. My coworker who is ISTP is so freaking cool. I wouldn’t know unless I knew the type system (not necessarily objective personality), but since I could pick up on it, I’ve been interacting with him to see what I’m missing as an INTP. Aux Se is pretty awesome. 🙂
Istp here. Thank you for this video. You’re right it’s like we can be superheroes with getting shit done, but our “kryptonite” is our f-ckin pain in the ass emotions-and may I say other peoples emotions? It is a struggle to not see some people as just mentally weak, but no one wants to be an asshole so we keep it to ourselves.
Getting better emotionally "is on my list" like a task to do. I'm a woman INTP with a very strong leaning towards the "sucky" ISTP type (kind of 55%/45%). How you speak in this video, both of you, really hits home. Thank you guys, your analysis of all types really helps me develop my Fe. I'm very grateful to both of you because I can already see changes in my interactions with people.
My brother and my father-in-law are both ISTPs (brothers a Ti Ni, and father-in-law is Ti Se), and I learned a lot about "being a man" from them (I'm an INFJ - Ni Ti variant), and while they may appear to be assholes, they're secretly as sensitive as IxFPs are/big teddy bears. Especially with their family and friends. Really fantastic people. All the other thinkers are really awesome to me as well (its refreshing for me to not have to worry about emotional sensitivities 24/7), but then again, I think all types are pretty great in their own ways.
Im istp ive been single for 12 years bc i want to improve myself before I bother anyone with being part of my mess. Finding yourself and being the best person you can be is the most important thing. There's a line in one punch man I love alot "if heros run away who's left to help". You have to be moral and have respect for people and do what's right. 👍
to add onto what they said about taking a thinking approach to feelings: this is 100% something i do. i’m 18 years old and i’ve seen since i was a kid that i’m obviously not as socially aware as others. this being obvious because of the history of autism in my family, so i had an idea of what to look out for when my autistic older brother would do or say something that offended people. i also happen to have a younger brother with adhd, so you can imagine the clash between the two. but because of that, i had looked at my own behaviors as i got older and i also started looking into psychology, basically wondering why or how things can have different results from different people. i’m constantly people watching, looking for behaviors as signs for what people are feeling, and my friends have said that i’m pretty neutral about things. like i could be offensive but i’m nice about when i speak the truth because i’ve become aware that i could be offending someone, and i think i only care because i don’t wanna have to deal with the fight afterwards. they’ve also said that they think i’m smart for putting logic before emotions, especially being a teenage girl and seeing when a guy is already treating me horribly and not thinking something like “well maybe he was hurt in the past so i should forgive him” because everyone knows that’s no excuse for being trash. and yeah, sometimes i can be offensive but that’s really only when i’m not aware that the person i’m speaking to is more sensitive than others. and if i can see that they’re more sensitive, i’ll just let them talk, let them hear their own voice since that’s usually what they want, and get it over with.
Kind of bummed by how some seem to have a distaste for certain types being praised. If anyone hurt you, it's that person, not their whole type. Wouldn't mind a video about how awesome ESTJs are, next.
@@lytea5191 Yeah, it is okay to have every type criticized. And we can be honest about the fact that there's some traits in people we personally dislike, which may strongly co-relate with type traits and therefore shape our view on that type. That's just personal emotion, nothing to feel guilty for. What grinds my gears is the refusal to acknowledge positives. Or the generalization in the likes of: "I had bad experiences with a few individuals that I happen to sort into this box, therefore I dislike the whole box. And don't talk positively about that box or anyone in it, it's a personal attack against me!" At it's core, it's really no different from different phenomena of innate based generalization in societies, which people overall agree on as negative and harmful. And then do the same in typology? Just no.
Yeah. Also, a lot of people like me and I’m like WHYYYYYY and slowly distance myself because compliments can be very overwhelming and leave me wondering like a giggling idiot.
Dave's level of disrespect for Ni is through the charts. And he loves the ISTP, one of the least self-hating and most responsible types... For the sake of the other Ni saviours out there who enjoy your channel, love yourself a bit more dude. All the best from your friendly neighbourhood INFJ (the best type)
Istp is the least self hating? Oh boy. That's just not true. They are pretty responsible to their Ti. Ti is such a slave driver. Get it right or you're a blithering idiot
@@0halibut0 Oh yeah, very true with the introverted decider. My deciders are in the middle, with fem Te and masc Fi, so I know both what it's like to worry about disappointing others and to be _way_ too hard on myself. Seriously, things can get really existential when I can't apply myself right and get things done; a lot of beating my head on the wall and swearing. Can't imagine what a native self-above-tribe type goes through.
Yeah, agreed. So set on a certain narrative that it can get kinda stale. But I do like their fresh, no nonsense view, not ass kissing like many other mbti content creators
Thank you for this video, its spot on!! Especially the thing about suddenly being able to oberseve and analyse ones own flaws! Even through it hurts some time!
@@iamdjaninfj1758 Congrats man! I’m an ESTP, when I was younger I neglected my Ti, I got caught up in a lot of things that prevented me from developing a relationship. Lately I learn a lot from Ti doms, to trust my logic and use it in my observations rather than just go with the crowd, so I calm down. I still have trouble with Fi and people that use that a lot because they seem really fickle, so I often get along well with ISTPs and INFJs. I’d like to date someone of those types if possible or maybe an ISFJ. But I’ll keep an open mind for when she comes along whatever they’re like lol.
I'm an INTJ and the amount of respect I have for ISTPs is infinity LOL. There is no one best mbti but ISTPs are so great I just... I can't- I just wish I could meet an ISTP in real life T-T
For me/ISTP I realised (at about 38 years old after autism diagnosis ) that to keep the tribe 'happy', I just had to be more ok with being 'fake'. To me in the past it was totally unacceptable for me to not say things I meant 100% and its taken me quite a while to feel more comfortable with putting on a big smile and asking small talk type questions so that others accept me more. I do mostly just connect and chat with other autistic friends and its so easy, we don't have to reassure one another in any way, we trust that one another will be direct if any issue arises or they have a particular need.
You know, I never realized that. I guess I do kinda become aware of my faults and try to fix them. Though that's because I don't like to be inefficient, I want to improve
I've finally found my type, istp. I wonder if any other istp's have struggled with this. I recently was told that I was being too nonchalant and sarcastic and that it was rude to be nonchalant. I'm not trying to be rude, ever. I'm honestly just talking, and I told them maybe they shouldn't read so much into my tone. I also asked how I should respond other than with an "okay," and they told me, "You should respond like me." I then responded with maybe you shouldn't make what I say so personal. I'm not sure if that was rude, but now I'm realizing it probably was, but at the same time, I'm just being honest. I'm never intentionally being rude, nonchalant, or sarcastic. I just hate unnecessary niceties and being overly expressive every second of every day.
Ok, yes, I know everyone thinks their great, but I'm INFP with an ISTP mother. We all know what i'm going to complain about. Do I need to write it? Nope. Honestly, they are great when the relationship is superficial. Very agreeable and kind.
Ok, sure, so my mother was under the impression that it was ok to invalidate another person's feelings, and would attempt to manipulate another person into feeling and believing whatever better fit inside her narrow field of acceptable realities. I'm not saying all ISTPs do this. I've just seen it as her preferences and part of her top functions.
I'm an ISTP personality type but I admire the ESFJ types as the best well rounded people. It's harder for me to tolerate ENFPs for longer than 5 minutes at a time, but I also admire their free spirit attitude the most. The INFJs are naturally givers and healers and kind of like an anomaly, but that's too conditional. All of them aren't equipped to balance the ways of this world with the weight of their world, so they keep much of it to themselves.
Ti hero: They are way too stupid dude... omg i hate them; Fe inferior : calm down dude look how innocent they are.., give them a second chance.. (#ISTP dealing with ppl)
@@sansadrake4133 There are a variety of ways to show affection. Although he's not what I'd consider "cuddly," he's definitely affectionate in other ways. His pragmatism, intellect, and humor are incredibly attractive.
watching your class on Maisie Williams; your short but sweet description and analysis of the Fi/Te axis vs Fe/Ti at the end of 1/2 video is 🔥!! Thank you!
This must explain why I don’t have much in common with most ISTPs in Facebook! I’m not a mechanic type, I’m more of a nerdy type. I know I’m not INTP because I hate heavy theory just a little bit and I HATE Star Wars and Star Trek and all that crap. I am practical but I am a Little bit nerdy I must be the Ni type. I have doubted my ISTPness but then again I hate rules, I’m a terrible planner ( I buy like 5 planners/ calendar per year - all of them get lost or they are empty lol) , my emotions surprise me like 2 months after they could’ve been useful to me, I’m stubborn , I like action driven people and I LOVE tools and physical things. If I spend hours planning,I’ll think of something at the last minute and scrap the plan, I like to think I have mastered my craft. :) I MUST be an ISTP.
Now that you established that ISTP is the best type, but only the non-jumper ISTP (as if my ego wasn't big enough), you should do a video ranking the different kinds of ISTPs (I know tier lists are an aging/dead meme, but get creative). What has been your experience of the consume - sleep ISTPs?
Also, if hooking my demons up to my Ti and building the skill isn't the way (It sounded like you were being sarcastic, there), how do I manage the tribe?
@@1mag1nat1vename you'll learn with time brother ... you gotta stay whit the tribe for hours on end , every day for as long as it takes to get good , friendship is built on four things : time, frequency, emotion and proximity : we brother are bad at emoting , therefore we have to work our ass off in the other three , if they allow you to get close to them , so yeah work on time and proximity , intensity will get itself done with time .
I'm an ISTP. I am in touch with my emotions. My emotions are more just "Why are you acting like a freaking nut case?" (cut through the b.s.) then "Oh. I hear you that you identify as a pinecone and that makes you feel bristly so sometimes you wonder if you are a hairbrush or a porcupine instead and it makes you feel angsty that porcupines don't have hair, so if you are a hairbrush, can you even help your self out of chaos-activated doom spirals?" Or, maybe I would be like "Look in the mirror. Is this your nose? Are these your lips? If I had reason to ask you to drop your pants, would I find any surprises? Okay then. Whatever you identify as, if it is not a person with a body that is shaped and performs like your own, you need to correct your thought pattern that got you that way as you are coming off to others as a freaking nut case and if you keep that up, not only will you not win friends and influence people (who are not also nut jobs) but you won't earn a rewarding paycheck that you can ever feel proud of putting in the effort to achieve. But, I know what I feel. I feel- this person is broken. They need to be fixed. I can do that if they listen, or at least get them started on the mend. That is compassion, empathy, sympathy, maybe mercy if they deserve a butt kicking but are getting tea and a lecture. Maybe that's the difference between male and female ISTP. I know what I'm feeling. I know it will evolve to something else, too. But, I also know it's all bound up in one major feeling and that feeling is, "Let's get things done." or "Let's get things fixed, so that we can get things done."
Oh man.... You just triggered every ISTP here :D "Believe" is a trigger word for us, And 110%? Funny thing is... compliments make me feel yucky.... so this video is not really great for me :D
@@Binyamin.Tsadik Damn. Is that a general ISTP thing? If I hold anyone I know in an especially high regard, I so definitely want to compliment them! Or at least tell other people how highly I think of them. But I guess, for an ISTP, the tribe talking about you behind your back isn't so pleasant either, or is it? D: I can't keep my mouth shut, I want the people I admire to be admired by others, too :o
Yes that's why you answered on several comments and seem to be all excited about it but blasting about how it's all yucky and why did they do that to you 🤣🤣🤣🤣
As an INFJ I admire and connect with ISTPS. They are familiar since they have all the same functions but they are doing the things I want to do better than me. I feel constrained by my perfectionism and conceptual bullshit that their clear and individuated perspectives, not overdoing ,not under thinking is just.... I'm jealous. It's a shame I don't know more.
3:00 "They're less grounded, they're leaving the planet, they're into theories, they're into solving every problem before they..." Yes! That's me! "Not these guys [Ti/Se]. They're working." Yes! That's not me! I'm almost the "best" type, I can see the problems and which way I should move. But I procrastinate on solving it until I first pre-solved it. I'm an idiot.
As an ISTP, I see anything and everything as a skill that can be mastered with knowledge and practice. At least by those with the capacity for such things, of course.
One thing I do admired about the istp is their ability to take criticism as much as their ability to give criticism. Is this a masculine Ti trait or feminine Ti trait?
It seems more about maturity. Either gendered Ti can react to and give criticism poorly. For M-Ti, look at Bill Gates vs. Richard Dawkins. For F-Ti, Neil DeGrasse Tyson vs. Eminem.
I don't know enough about it yet, but I feel as if I was an Ti Se in my younger life and yes I was super popular and 'productive'. I appeared to do everything easily and appeared outwardly cool, calm and happy. These days after a lot of years in more the Ti Ni, I feel like I'm a wayyyy better person, I have loads of empathy, a rich emotional life, but I'm more introverted, less popular, less 'productive' and had to learn boundaries and how to develop an identity and groundedness
In my experience, ISTPs are the ones who don't want to believe in the MBTI personality classifying garbage. They want to stay practical, instead of being confined by hypothetical ethereal nonsense. And as an INFP, I'm like, "y not tho?"
My brother (14) I have typed to be this type. I am in such agreement with this!! He has such aggressive Ti, it's hilarious! But Oh. My. God. We might have huge arguments but he is incredible. Amazing type.
I'm officially typed as ISTP (Ti/Se). No, I'm wasn't working in my 20s. No, I wasn't making money. No, I wasn't "dialled in on success." No, I wasn't "boots on ground, making things happen." Yes, I suck with planning. Yes, I have a hard time with discipline. The attributes seem to be contradictory - how can you be working, making, money, dialled in on success, have boots on the ground, yet suck with planning and have a hard time with discipline?
i wish i was an istp lol they do seem cool i'm still trying to figure out my type but i've now narrowed it down to single decider xNFJ/xSTP, so either ISTP or ENFJ i know that they're completely different but since i'm pretty sure i'm blast last i still could see myself being a glass lizard enfj but idk i could be just an istp peacocking being an EJ lol
My best friend from college and for several years after was ISTP, he just decided what he wanted and went and did it. That 1st slot Ti at work. Sort of envied that being ESTP, hard to me to decide and go. I tend to wander around a bit before I can act.
Them swearing in every single video and me being an ISTP asking myself is it okay to do so ? And why aren't people getting offended cuz they usually do ? Anyway this subject is harder than i've expected. Emotions are confusing for sure.
In my experience, ISTPs are poor on long term thinking, poor on emotional intelligence, and can get trapped in personal biases and end up reinforcing their prejudices, and can be highly argumentative, volotile, and eager to confrontation. I believe that this may have been an unhealthy ISTP with issues with grandiose narcissism, so I'm really hoping it's more the exception to the rule... otherwise I can't see them being the "best" personality...
This particular one your talking about definitely seems unhealthy. All of those traits are typical negative traits of ISTPs, but to combine it with narcissism suggests an unhealthy one. The other traits by themselves are often just signs of immaturity because all of those are often tied to typical insecurities. ISTPs have a need to be seen as highly competent. Combine that with low Fe, and you get someone who can be argumentative, stubborn, and insensitive, but at the same time capable of working in and with the physical world at a very high proficiency. As far as your specific ISTP goes, I would recommend trying to understand them from their perspective. You might be surprised that they aren't a bad person, but don't know how to relate to others. At least, that's how it was for me. As I've gotten older, I've gotten better dealing people and knowing when being "right" isn't always helpful.
@@VTdarkangel thanks. That was a helpful response. While I've been able to build connections in the past, things only seem to have gotten worse over time despite efforts at understanding or compassion.
Am I the sh*t type of ISTP? Labouring on building sites in an attempt to smash investing and financial freedom (total opposites). (40) I do get the 'build my skills on something' part. Haha, in my twenties, I realised I was crap at talking to people, so became a sales person. When I was 35 I realised I hadn't completed the 'making money' sphere. I've been locked in this one for 5 years, but I am bashing my head against another road block- an utter inability to commit long term( "no I don't want a job/career", even though this is the quickest route to real estate investing)
Anyone here into Hatebreed? (Metal band. The one from the "Destroy Everything" meme.) For those who are, what'd you guess Jamey's type is? I strongly suspect he's a beta quadra decider. ISTP or ENFJ. Most most most probably an ISTP who's overcome tremendous hardship and now goes all in on Fe and Ni. Could see him as Ti/Ni. He yells at the tribe, using his Fe, Se and Ni trying to save people by yelling at them to take charge of their Ti and Se, to save themselves and overcome the same hardships he once went through.
For you ISTPs, the video starts at 2:18. Everything before that is fluff. Sincerely, an ISTP.
Fed Up Geo Yes
Man your comment says istp more than anything else lol
i love this
Accurate
I actually found the intro fairly entertainig. Sincerely, an ISTP.
I'm an ISTP and I recognized MBTI as a potential instruction manual on being human. Why wouldn't I embrace it? I see life as a personal journey of self development, to become the best person I could possibly become, given my limitations and vulnerabilities.
Mate, look at socionics. A way better theory
Funny, I am INFP and I see it in a similar light, but more like it's a guiding manual for understanding other humans, because I am so in touch with myself but struggle with the tribe, I initially got into MBTI because I wanted to understand what makes other people tick :)
It makes me very happy to read this haha.
Dave B I feel like if you embrace it you become “limited”, people seem to take the test, find their type and then try to be like that stereotype as much as possible, I’m not a fan of this shit.
Did u copy and paste that? I mean how many hours did it take for u to write thst?
I'm an ISTP and I thought I wasted a lot of time watching videos on TH-cam all day long since the beginning of the pandemic. And one of the things I watched the most of was filmmaking, I watched a lot of movies and series and cartoons. Now I have a huge library of knowledge about filmmaking in my head. And I learned about 3D animation and tradicional animation. And now I'm starting with the pre-production of my animated Short film, it's a long term project and I hate long commitments but it's something I have to get over in order to do more things
Observation on an ISTP are on another level so happy journey bro
I just knew Ti/Ni ISTPs weren’t going to be included. Must work harder... ~ Nathan.
You're killing it too bro!
@@Binyamin.Tsadik Teach me your ways! Also it would be great to see you do a video on Ti/Se vs Ti/Ni ISTPs, purely for selfish reasons ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Sounds like a great idea, maybe on your channel?
Master Nathan~
Love Who I thought you were an INTP! ISTP? For real?
As an ISTP, I admit that the ancient philosophy of Stoicism really appeals to me. . .
There is something appealing about it to an ISTP mindset. I'm a Christian, but I'd be a liar to say that I haven't had some influence by Stoic and Zen philosophies.
Ditto!
I try to apply stoicism in my everyday life but it’s difficult.
I learned stoicism from my ISTP friend
Same
I admire ISTPs as well. They seem so naturally well rounded.
I am an ISTP, and I learned to turn emotions on and off like with a switch, ‘cause I was so jealous of emotional people. So I tried that and it works.
THIS HAHAHAHA!! life hacks 101..... I've recently done this exact same thing too as an istp
lol the clapper for dealing w feelers! sweet!
How did you teach yourself this? I have trouble with it and cant help but shutdown emotionally and shutdown communication when it comes to emotions or feelings?
@@johnnyringo4463 A lot of it is connected with self-control. So when I want to turn on emotions, I just let go of control. But it’s a tricky thing, ‘cause it’s the whole range of emotions that come, not just the ones I want. Also forgetfulness and being late, which is not common for me at all. But it’s also fun, like some other side of me.
@@tanikaUU thanks for the quick reply. Figured a 2year old post wouldnt get a response. Lol. I want to be able to turn on emotions but control them. 🤣. When i cant control it, i hit the big nuke it all button and just try to win the argument anyway possible. Ill say stuff just to try and make her cry, or get her so pissed she leaves. I want to be able to control it. This is arguing with an ISTJ woman so that might be a whole other set of problems. Lol. You dont ever lose control of your emotions and mess things up?
I’ve taken MBTA a few times when younger across my 26 year military career. Thought it was liberal arts social science BS. I can look back now and know my self assessment was clouded between who I was and who the military made me. Now learning up on this I’m amazed at how precise it is. I’m not there yet with eh all the terms abbreviations, but I’m having fun learning for now.
I’m an INTJ in a long term relationship with an ISTP. Easiest relationship I’ve ever had. We are both secret romantics and enjoy guiding each other out of our comfort zones -I say “guiding” because we approach each other’s underdeveloped sides with a gentle, mentoring kind of coercion, which is really the best way to describe it 😎
Love coercion
Yes!! I don't hear a lot about INTJ- ISTP couples but I've literally never seen a healthier match in person. You described it accurately for my case as well. ISTP are so grounded and aware and they really teach you with respect and they're ALWAYS learning by observation and experiences! It's fascinating that we're so different but we balance and develop each other.
I'm a ISTP. But procrastination is a huge thing in my live. I somehow have enough control over it that I can still work and do the necessary daily chores. But I never do any free time projects because I never start them. Or if I start them, I won't procced with them on the next day.
I feel ya
That's the Oe curse. Start actually putting in some time on your Ni plan for what you really wanna get out of life. That's the next step I would recommend.
More or less yes. It's entirely impractical to "cut out" the gathering of interesting things entirely, but the goal is to add some level of focus and prioritization. The main step I would take is to just sit down with a piece of paper (or spreadsheet or whatever) and just write out all the projects that you want to do in your free time (i.e. learn a new language, join a rec sports team, learn to cook/bake, create a system for exercise, etc.). Then really think through which are the biggest priorities and which would be "nice but not necessary" (The NF thought experiment I used was "If I only had ten years left to live, what would I REALLY regret not doing?" ). Then take your biggest priority and take only the first smallest step toward that goal (i.e. if your highest priority goal is to learn French, say, go and buy a book for complete beginners). Then, give yourself just ten to fifteen minutes a day to work on that goal. Don't try and get it all done at once. Baby steps.
@@shiro1744 My problem is that the thing I want to do can't be done in just ten minutes per day. At least I don't know how. It would be making some low level game development in c++. There the reading into what you did last takes more than 10 minutes.
This is me
Feelings are not easy. I have no idea how to navigate my feelings. I don’t even know what they are. -ISTP female
Still trying to find my type. I thought I was a Fi dom but man I can't even confront some emotions. I try to find reasons for them then just discard them entirely.
Me too, im very fickle in general when it comes to Fi
I''m INTJ and I'm married to the ultra rare ISTP female, she's the best.
Okay as a female ISTP I have to ask you this: How's your life so far?
Hahaha I'm genuinely curious
Lucky you.
My dad is ~ENTJ married to an ~ISTP female, and I have to say - she is an amazing mom. Without her, I would have grown to be a far weaker female I think.
@@shaishai3920 Marry me pls.
I want to marry an ISTP too
I love tomboys
@@shaishai3920 bump because I'm also ISTP female (bf of 3+ years INTJ) and is curious about that married life XD
My wife is an ISTP. She’s amazing. I’m an INTP and need someone in my life as grounded as she is. There are no emotional games with her. She’s upfront and honest. She doesn’t love all the abstract nonsense I do, but she’s intelligent enough to follow it (if only to shut me up for a while). She’s cool under pressure, etc. From what I understand it is rare for an INTP to be happy in a relationship. I am lucky she went after me like she did.
What do you mean by abstract things. I'm trying to figure out weither I'm an istp or intp and this might help me find an answer
@@bulbijunk3004 did you find it
My brother's an ISTP, but he's Ti-Ni and stuck in a perpetual rut. He's Sleep-Consume-Blast-Play. He is extremely disconnected with his Se, which gets him to feel energized and actually _think_ . He obviously has low-grade depression but it also has lots to do with his inability to put himself in the shoes of the tribe. He's lost many chances by choosing to not collaborate at all with others and being in other words, an asshole.
We had an abusive upbringing and I was the one who took responsibility of being the more prolific sibling, even if I'm the youngest. So I do get why he's the way he is, his way of coping with the trauma was though Freeze response. I get it. But we left five years ago. He can start healing now. He has more chances than I do. It just frustrates me seeing someone who can do much better pretty much rot away.
Dang! For his sake and yours, I hope he turns things around. Istp's are pretty cool imo. All of them.
Feel free to contradict me and be skeptical of what I’m about to tell you. This INTP welcomes the challenge.
FYI - I have a history of abuse too, both childhood and adulthood, and like every living human, I have a history of depression. Don’t say your sorry - I’m not. Lol. I mention it to give my words credibility. This was my catalyst to perform the ridiculous amount of research I’ve done on the subject.
Disclaimer: I have no pedigree papers by which to claim to be a professional. Conventional wisdom suggests you don’t listen to a word I say.
Now for my point.
You’ve been lied to a lot. Not deliberately. But society convinced you of stuff that isn’t true regarding abuse and depression, and that’s where your frustration is coming from. These are ballpark guesses - I don’t personally know you.
Here are my guesses: You’re frustrated because you’re convinced there’s a solution to your brother’s depression and he’s just not doing it. You think if he could just listen or follow good advice that would fix the problem. You’re afraid because you think if he doesn’t change, his future life will suck.
You feel a sense of pressure or anxiety about the amount of time he’s been in this state. You think he’s wasting his life being depressed and if he doesn’t snap out of it, maybe he never will.
Those fears aren’t logical, true, or accurate, and that’s not your fault. You think that way because society thinks that way. That perspective is the way you were taught to look at this problem.
There is a thing you can and should do about your brothers depression. The sooner you start, the better for the both of you.
You need to learn. A lot. It has to become a habit for you. But importantly, you need to stay the heck away from psychology and sociology. Those come last. They’re full of info that is either inaccurate or too easily misinterpreted by someone who doesn’t have a powerful foundation in the hard sciences. Also, don’t partake in corporate media - it will make you stupid.
The reason you need to learn is because the things you fear aren’t real fears. But you won’t believe that until you understand why those fears aren’t real.
Believe it or not, what your brother needs the most from you is for you to not be afraid, and to have faith in who he is as a person and in his ability to fix his own problems.
The depressed mind is very vulnerable to the opinions of the tribe. When a depressed person is surrounded by people who pity them and think they need help and advice, they can lose faith in their own ability to help themselves. In the same way, excessive empathy and compassion can also be destructive. They can actually enable depression.
Don’t feel guilty for showing love and even sometimes fear on your brothers behalf. Being cared about by people is really important for his psyche. However, learn to keep that fear in check. It’s not realistic. It’s not the truth.
The good news is that your brother is fine. Nothing is wrong with either of you. You’re not damaged. Your history doesn’t prevent you from being happy or achieving the same level of success as everyone else. And the good news is that your brother will get there. His body needs to go through this process. Its a requirement for the growth he’s going to get later.
The human brain is built to be depressed - and for good reason. That’s where most of our learning and ambition comes from. We also have to experience depression in situations that require adaptation. Everybody gets depressed multiple times in their lives - it’s natural and normal. It’s also incredibly predictable. The kind of depression your brother has right now is almost certainly in response to his life transition. Going from an abusive environment to an environment where he is now able to explore himself. Depending on your age, it’s also very likely that he’s suffering through an identify crisis. Everybody suffers through it. The unlucky people who don’t get it early get it way worse later in life. It’s like chicken pox.
Loving someone in pain really sucks. Especially when there’s nothing you can do about it. But there’s no point in suffering even more because you’re believing things that aren’t true.
Your brother? He’s going to be just fine. You’re also going to be just fine. Not sure if anyone told you that. Being abused doesn’t make you who you are - and by the way - major props to you for your heckin awesome attitude. The sense of responsibility you have is super rare, and scientific studies have shown a correlation between that attitude and heroic behavior. Like running into burning buildings to save babies behavior. So cool.
At the same time, I think it’s actually really probable that you’re depressed as well. There’s a good chance you don’t realize it. There’s different types of depression. Yours sounds like it might be related to a GABA imbalance.
Personality theory is excellent for self-growth, but it doesn’t explain who you are. It just explains the way you think. Unfortunately, although I love OPT - it’s not going to help you pull yourself out of depression. Depression is biological. What it will do, though, is give you the instruction manual to self-growth and human relationships. Super useful!
But not the cure to depression. Sorry.
For information on that, I recommend the following books:
The Upward Spiral
The Mood Cure
The Mood Cure will probably be most beneficial for you. The upward spiral could help your brother, if he’s willing to read it. The best way to get him interested is if you read it and start telling him about what you’ve learned.
One last thing. It’s just an idea. Maybe it doesn’t fit into the context of your relationship with your bro. But if it would work it can be really helpful. First, take the test in the mood cure and see if you identify with any of the depression types. If you do, start working on yourself...and let your brother help you. Ask him for advice. If he’s older and he’s a thinking type, maybe even ask him if he thinks certain things are true or what his take on it is. This won’t work if I’m wrong about you being in a depression swing...you can’t just “pretend”. People know when you’re lying and that can hurt way more. But if you can genuinely try to learn about your own depression and genuinely find ways your brother can help you grow, you might find that he’s able to see his own problems much more clearly just by helping you with yours. It’s weird the way the mind works.
Sometimes the best gift you can give someone is the willingness to let them help you. Helping others is one of the best ways to build confidence, happiness, and the motivation to improve. When I say “let him help” though - I don’t mean you should go crying to him with your deep, painful emotional baggage. Especially if he’s a dominant T and depressed, it’s better if you don’t. Let him help you by using the functions he’s good at. That’s always going to be true, by the way. That letting other types help you by doing what they do best is the key to building bonds and facilitating each other’s self-growth. It’s what Steven Covey refers to as codependency. (Don’t Google it, it’s also a psych term) If you’re ever feeling directionless in life and you don’t know how to fix your problems, read the 7 Habits of Highly Effective People.
I have a lot of information to share if you want more details. Questions are encouraged. If you want, I can even help you work out a plan for how to learn what you need to know and give you an estimate on time, cost, and ways to do it for free.
Well then. Thanks for the comment.
~ Good luck human
PS: 5 years is definitely not enough time to recover from long term abuse. He’s not as far behind as you seem to think he is.
@@AK-jt7kh Amazing
Are you sure he is really an ISTP. I used to think I was something else because, as it turns out, trauma can degrade you further and further away from your real type. A degraded ISTP turns into more and more of an unsure people pleaser who is trying to fit into the tribe and keeps trying to make plans but never gets anything done. It sounds like he is exhibiting ISTP tendencies, as you see it, now while he is malfunctioning. Which means he is more likely to be an ESFP ir ISFP or INTJ or INFJ, if I remember correctly.
ISTP here. I just discovered this channel a few hours ago and it's already changing my life! Thank you so much! It's remarkable that the information is so concise and digestible, none of those 30min videos to nowhere, fake self-development, feel-good BS. I am very grateful and respect you immensely for this. I also love how much fun you two are having. What an amazing dynamic to watch!
Have you looked at CPT? He has great content. Not strictly MBTI but he does reference it and he does explain it.
I think being an ISTP is awesome!
Fixing all the things, partaking in risky behavior, zen AF (unless you get in the way)
Aloof would be a bit of an understatement however.
IDRlabs had a good quote, "it's not that I'm too cool for you guys, but now I have to go do cool things without you, mmkay?"
I wish I knew an ISTP handyman to hire. I get so tired of people who want lots of money but never actually accomplish things. Well, this one guy might have been ISTP. He was a vet and he did great work. Unfortunately he had a stepson he was trying to train, whose name was Brian. That's all I have to say about that.
yeah unfortunately a lot of people suck, but still charge you expert rates. they're really only looking to work with higher end people who aren't going to complain.
What I've learned is you basically need to be making over $100k/yr to be able to afford for people to build/fix things for you@@arlettasloan6453
Ok, let me get this straight. Dave, MF-Ni/Fi-SB/P, thinks, ISTPs, specifically FF-Ti/Se-CP/S, are the best.
They're:
- Consume/Play (both of Dave's demons)
- Double observers (unlike Dave)
- Easy going with saviour Se
- Thinking types
Not saying they aren't epic. But it seems the grass is always greener on the other side.
Isn't OPS all about watering those demon patches so they become just as green? 😉
Function Flow: A life-map for meaning
th-cam.com/video/c0nv5Qswwyg/w-d-xo.html
They previously covered a video regarding the “recommended function flow” which is another reason why Dave is fanboying over the ISTPs.
The stock ISTP’s functions naturally follows that function flow; which is pretty cool. 😎
Jesus. I'm bored from how surface-level and watered down various videos about my type based on Myers-Briggs were, and then I find this video that just makes everything I was uncertain about and conditioned to repress since I was a child all so crystal clear. Like giving me actual factors and explanations for why the big ol' logic machine churning in my head seems to sputter and die at processing emotions despite me being able to identify them and see them in action.
6:15 onward was like a big slap in the face to me that woke me up from a nightmare honestly. Made me realize I'm NOT crazy after all, I finally understand what I want and how I want it without caring why, when it's obvious it was all just to be better for myself and adapt to every problem I want to solve.
On a side note I am definitely Ti-Ni but I feel like I can absolutely become Ti-Se if I learn to somehow balance my sense of self with my perception of society so I don't go into my head because I'm scared of interacting with people.
Plot twist: We're all ISTPs
😂😂 this is when all the infjs see they are actually istps
One of us
@@aubreys1675 it's the Ti/Ni loops!! I have a friend who desperately try's to convince herself shes an INFJ, when really shes just an unhealthy ISTP in an Ti/Ni loop.
@@hatterene39347 sounds about right!
I agree with this video because ISTP's are really down-to-earth. Yes, as a Ni-dom speaking here, intuitives are somewhat overrated because we are often detached from reality for what is really out there.
Understanding personality typing helps me to have compassion for my ISTP Mom. She was emotionally shut down. Her figurative "heart" had a triple reinforced wall around it. An incredible "doer" but a terrible "feeler." I have finally understood that she just wasn't 'competent' when it came to processing emotions and nurturing herself, so how could she be emotionally supportive toward her children? My task is: 1) to forgive her for not learning to be emotionally competent and 2) to heal my pain by taking responsibility for what I need and providing it for mySelf.
@Summer Light ENFJ
Oh, my mother is an ENFJ and I am the ISTP one. When I was in my darkest days, I was hurting her emotionally by being a stone-hearted daughter. I have a really high respect for ENFJs because of her. They put someone else's feelings above theirs. A really beautiful and selfless type.
my mom is istp too and i can relate to that. I have hard time forgiving her for being detached from feelings because i struggle with them a lot rn, though I try to help her
ISTP females- none that I have ever met- are detached from their feelings in that sort of way. That sounds maybe more like INTJ or was that INTP. Anyway, Frank James does a stellar representatiion of a very detached seeming mom who says "What? I'm not a monster!" near the end after she does something less Spock like. ISTP "detachment" is more like being calm in a criss. Like when my kids were crying because there was a sudden wind storm that caused everyone to run screaming and the tent we were under was falling and the poles were falling and almost clobbering people and one very big metal pole fell right at me and I caught it right before it hit my face, pushed it back into place and held it and while my dad was showing off that he was putting the tent back together I said something like "Yeah, very cute old man. Now get over here and take this. I need my hand free for the other kids before they wander off." and then people forgot the wind because, there was some cutesty tootsie fat chick with four kids in a black velvet dress and no shoes holding up the middle of the tent.
None of that is bragging. I hope it didn't come off that way. We just wanted to have a normalish day out with children.
"ISTPs are the best type…" 😃
"…except the Ti-Ni kind" ☹
You'll always have George Lucas man...
Just ignore Jar Jar
Isnt elon musk Ti-Ni?
@@kohlscunty ti-si sadly
@jparkerwillis hey can you explain what the tini is I'm so lost
@jparkerwillis they have a class on him on their site ( behind a paywall)
Im ISTP and i really dont get much done, i mostly just laze around the house and play video games in between kicking ass and looking cool
Been married to an ISTP for 15 years and I can say.. they are the best. ❤ as long as you can understand their Ti for what it is instead of "constant criticism"
Agreed that ISTP is the best type. My coworker who is ISTP is so freaking cool. I wouldn’t know unless I knew the type system (not necessarily objective personality), but since I could pick up on it, I’ve been interacting with him to see what I’m missing as an INTP. Aux Se is pretty awesome. 🙂
Istp here. Thank you for this video. You’re right it’s like we can be superheroes with getting shit done, but our “kryptonite” is our f-ckin pain in the ass emotions-and may I say other peoples emotions? It is a struggle to not see some people as just mentally weak, but no one wants to be an asshole so we keep it to ourselves.
0:59 yes we are but you’re not supposed to tell anybody that >:(
We just got exposed! Time to build another layer of walls so no one can see through!
My experience with ISTPs is that they think us INTJs have a punchable face.
They do
me ISTP have best friend INTJ shes great. young male INTJs however need to get air dropped in a jungle
@@sibestfunction4400 Yes, when they're on that teenage years is the peak of "punchability"
Bob Cruz INTJ/INFJs piss me off
@@sibestfunction4400 loooool you are so right !
Getting better emotionally "is on my list" like a task to do. I'm a woman INTP with a very strong leaning towards the "sucky" ISTP type (kind of 55%/45%). How you speak in this video, both of you, really hits home. Thank you guys, your analysis of all types really helps me develop my Fe. I'm very grateful to both of you because I can already see changes in my interactions with people.
My brother and my father-in-law are both ISTPs (brothers a Ti Ni, and father-in-law is Ti Se), and I learned a lot about "being a man" from them (I'm an INFJ - Ni Ti variant), and while they may appear to be assholes, they're secretly as sensitive as IxFPs are/big teddy bears. Especially with their family and friends.
Really fantastic people.
All the other thinkers are really awesome to me as well (its refreshing for me to not have to worry about emotional sensitivities 24/7), but then again, I think all types are pretty great in their own ways.
Im istp ive been single for 12 years bc i want to improve myself before I bother anyone with being part of my mess. Finding yourself and being the best person you can be is the most important thing. There's a line in one punch man I love alot "if heros run away who's left to help". You have to be moral and have respect for people and do what's right. 👍
to add onto what they said about taking a thinking approach to feelings: this is 100% something i do.
i’m 18 years old and i’ve seen since i was a kid that i’m obviously not as socially aware as others. this being obvious because of the history of autism in my family, so i had an idea of what to look out for when my autistic older brother would do or say something that offended people. i also happen to have a younger brother with adhd, so you can imagine the clash between the two. but because of that, i had looked at my own behaviors as i got older and i also started looking into psychology, basically wondering why or how things can have different results from different people. i’m constantly people watching, looking for behaviors as signs for what people are feeling, and my friends have said that i’m pretty neutral about things. like i could be offensive but i’m nice about when i speak the truth because i’ve become aware that i could be offending someone, and i think i only care because i don’t wanna have to deal with the fight afterwards.
they’ve also said that they think i’m smart for putting logic before emotions, especially being a teenage girl and seeing when a guy is already treating me horribly and not thinking something like “well maybe he was hurt in the past so i should forgive him” because everyone knows that’s no excuse for being trash.
and yeah, sometimes i can be offensive but that’s really only when i’m not aware that the person i’m speaking to is more sensitive than others. and if i can see that they’re more sensitive, i’ll just let them talk, let them hear their own voice since that’s usually what they want, and get it over with.
whenever i leave a comment it’s always longer than i expect but i’m just kinda letting out all my thinking so oh well 🤷♀️
One of the better channels for the istp. Thank you...
Kind of bummed by how some seem to have a distaste for certain types being praised. If anyone hurt you, it's that person, not their whole type.
Wouldn't mind a video about how awesome ESTJs are, next.
I agree personal bias is lame, and each type definitely has their strengths, but I can't help finding certain types pretty much just annoying. XD
@@lytea5191 Yeah, it is okay to have every type criticized. And we can be honest about the fact that there's some traits in people we personally dislike, which may strongly co-relate with type traits and therefore shape our view on that type. That's just personal emotion, nothing to feel guilty for.
What grinds my gears is the refusal to acknowledge positives. Or the generalization in the likes of: "I had bad experiences with a few individuals that I happen to sort into this box, therefore I dislike the whole box. And don't talk positively about that box or anyone in it, it's a personal attack against me!"
At it's core, it's really no different from different phenomena of innate based generalization in societies, which people overall agree on as negative and harmful. And then do the same in typology? Just no.
@@disappointedbutnotsurprised17
That is exactly what I'm doing getting good at my personality and you guys are my biggest resource
Yeah. Also, a lot of people like me and I’m like WHYYYYYY and slowly distance myself because compliments can be very overwhelming and leave me wondering like a giggling idiot.
Hahaha this is very true! Whenever I'm being complimented, I'm just like "Uh, yeah." "Uh, alright." "Oh, hehe, okay?" 😂
Hahaha samee
Dave's level of disrespect for Ni is through the charts. And he loves the ISTP, one of the least self-hating and most responsible types... For the sake of the other Ni saviours out there who enjoy your channel, love yourself a bit more dude. All the best from your friendly neighbourhood INFJ (the best type)
Yes it seems very self loathing. And sucking up to the mean girls to be popular.
Istp is the least self hating? Oh boy. That's just not true. They are pretty responsible to their Ti. Ti is such a slave driver. Get it right or you're a blithering idiot
@pithopratka this sounds like a comment from 2005
@@0halibut0 Oh yeah, very true with the introverted decider. My deciders are in the middle, with fem Te and masc Fi, so I know both what it's like to worry about disappointing others and to be _way_ too hard on myself. Seriously, things can get really existential when I can't apply myself right and get things done; a lot of beating my head on the wall and swearing. Can't imagine what a native self-above-tribe type goes through.
Yeah, agreed. So set on a certain narrative that it can get kinda stale. But I do like their fresh, no nonsense view, not ass kissing like many other mbti content creators
Thank you for this video, its spot on!! Especially the thing about suddenly being able to oberseve and analyse ones own flaws! Even through it hurts some time!
Ooff, as a lady ISTP, I can relate to this so, so much! Although, I’ve never called you. Huh, maybe I should.
As an INFJ, ISTP is also my favorite personality type
Wow that’s a rare combo for a long term relationship! Most INFJs go for ENFPs from what I’ve seen.
@@iamdjaninfj1758 Congrats man! I’m an ESTP, when I was younger I neglected my Ti, I got caught up in a lot of things that prevented me from developing a relationship. Lately I learn a lot from Ti doms, to trust my logic and use it in my observations rather than just go with the crowd, so I calm down. I still have trouble with Fi and people that use that a lot because they seem really fickle, so I often get along well with ISTPs and INFJs. I’d like to date someone of those types if possible or maybe an ISFJ. But I’ll keep an open mind for when she comes along whatever they’re like lol.
I'm an INTJ and the amount of respect I have for ISTPs is infinity LOL. There is no one best mbti but ISTPs are so great I just... I can't- I just wish I could meet an ISTP in real life T-T
For me/ISTP I realised (at about 38 years old after autism diagnosis ) that to keep the tribe 'happy', I just had to be more ok with being 'fake'. To me in the past it was totally unacceptable for me to not say things I meant 100% and its taken me quite a while to feel more comfortable with putting on a big smile and asking small talk type questions so that others accept me more. I do mostly just connect and chat with other autistic friends and its so easy, we don't have to reassure one another in any way, we trust that one another will be direct if any issue arises or they have a particular need.
ENTJ male, I rather admire ISTPs and find them quite nifty
*Female ISTPs especially
ISTP here 0:25 that interruption triggered me badly. My INFJ gf does that quite frequently. LoL I wanted to hear him finish his sentence.
Yes! Of course ISTP is the best! Glad we can agree on something.
You definitely got me with the Click bate but I'm eating up this schpiel.
Make A tier list of types!
Ahem... please?
Hit us with that neatly arranged Te spectrum of logic.
You know, I never realized that. I guess I do kinda become aware of my faults and try to fix them. Though that's because I don't like to be inefficient, I want to improve
I like the thumbnail pic for this video. I think both of you are making your best ISTP face.
Wow I am a stud
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I've finally found my type, istp. I wonder if any other istp's have struggled with this. I recently was told that I was being too nonchalant and sarcastic and that it was rude to be nonchalant. I'm not trying to be rude, ever. I'm honestly just talking, and I told them maybe they shouldn't read so much into my tone. I also asked how I should respond other than with an "okay," and they told me, "You should respond like me." I then responded with maybe you shouldn't make what I say so personal. I'm not sure if that was rude, but now I'm realizing it probably was, but at the same time, I'm just being honest. I'm never intentionally being rude, nonchalant, or sarcastic. I just hate unnecessary niceties and being overly expressive every second of every day.
Yes finally some love for sensors
Thank you for this. This video gives me so much motivation. 😘
Ok, yes, I know everyone thinks their great, but I'm INFP with an ISTP mother. We all know what i'm going to complain about. Do I need to write it? Nope. Honestly, they are great when the relationship is superficial. Very agreeable and kind.
True, you said It all, great as long as it is superficial. That describes my extroverted life!
I'm but hurt at this comment hahaha well not really just want you to explain your answer to see if this relates to me (an ISTP)
Ok, sure, so my mother was under the impression that it was ok to invalidate another person's feelings, and would attempt to manipulate another person into feeling and believing whatever better fit inside her narrow field of acceptable realities. I'm not saying all ISTPs do this. I've just seen it as her preferences and part of her top functions.
thank you. I always feel like ive struggled as an istp in a world that feels like it kind of hates my type. maybe im just in the wrong environment.
I appreciate the validation
I'm an ISTP personality type but I admire the ESFJ types as the best well rounded people.
It's harder for me to tolerate ENFPs for longer than 5 minutes at a time, but I also admire their free spirit attitude the most. The INFJs are naturally givers and healers and kind of like an anomaly, but that's too conditional. All of them aren't equipped to balance the ways of this world with the weight of their world, so they keep much of it to themselves.
I admire the enfj the most
Yoo I'm an ISTP and this was posted on my birthday. nice.
Recently typed as an ISTP. My nursing instructor told me I was too laid back. Yeah, until you piss me off.
My exact type! Yay, I'm happy :D
Ti hero: They are way too stupid dude... omg i hate them;
Fe inferior : calm down dude look how innocent they are.., give them a second chance..
(#ISTP dealing with ppl)
I have an istp boss. This is painfully true
Ti hero: I can't believe someone can be this stupid.
Fe inferior: Look, he's trying! Stop being rude!
Ti: Alright, but I still think he's noob.
Is Michael Jordan an ISTP? That seems to be conventional wisdom.
In an INFJ... ISTP is most definitely the best type. I'm married to one... It's AMAZING. I want to be one.
Whats so good about their aloofness
@@sansadrake4133 Everything?
@@SmittenKitten. to clarify i just meant...women usually want/need affection and istps tend to be aloof right?
@@sansadrake4133 There are a variety of ways to show affection. Although he's not what I'd consider "cuddly," he's definitely affectionate in other ways. His pragmatism, intellect, and humor are incredibly attractive.
@@SmittenKitten. interesting. 🤔.
When dave talks about how he admires Shan 😭 and immediately playfully banters after. They’re so good
watching your class on Maisie Williams; your short but sweet description and analysis of the Fi/Te axis vs Fe/Ti at the end of 1/2 video is 🔥!! Thank you!
I freakin love you two!!! Happy Holidays & thanks for all the priceless info & entertainment!!! Rock on!!! 😁🙌🏼❣️
This must explain why I don’t have much in common with most ISTPs in Facebook! I’m not a mechanic type, I’m more of a nerdy type. I know I’m not INTP because I hate heavy theory just a little bit and I HATE Star Wars and Star Trek and all that crap. I am practical but I am a Little bit nerdy I must be the Ni type. I have doubted my ISTPness but then again I hate rules, I’m a terrible planner ( I buy like 5 planners/ calendar per year - all of them get lost or they are empty lol) , my emotions surprise me like 2 months after they could’ve been useful to me, I’m stubborn , I like action driven people and I LOVE tools and physical things. If I spend hours planning,I’ll think of something at the last minute and scrap the plan, I like to think I have mastered my craft. :) I MUST be an ISTP.
Now that you established that ISTP is the best type, but only the non-jumper ISTP (as if my ego wasn't big enough), you should do a video ranking the different kinds of ISTPs (I know tier lists are an aging/dead meme, but get creative). What has been your experience of the consume - sleep ISTPs?
Also, if hooking my demons up to my Ti and building the skill isn't the way (It sounded like you were being sarcastic, there), how do I manage the tribe?
@@1mag1nat1vename you'll learn with time brother ...
you gotta stay whit the tribe for hours on end , every day for as long as it takes to get good , friendship is built on four things : time, frequency, emotion and proximity : we brother are bad at emoting , therefore we have to work our ass off in the other three , if they allow you to get close to them , so yeah work on time and proximity , intensity will get itself done with time .
Definitely!!
I'm an ISTP. I am in touch with my emotions. My emotions are more just "Why are you acting like a freaking nut case?" (cut through the b.s.) then "Oh. I hear you that you identify as a pinecone and that makes you feel bristly so sometimes you wonder if you are a hairbrush or a porcupine instead and it makes you feel angsty that porcupines don't have hair, so if you are a hairbrush, can you even help your self out of chaos-activated doom spirals?" Or, maybe I would be like "Look in the mirror. Is this your nose? Are these your lips? If I had reason to ask you to drop your pants, would I find any surprises? Okay then. Whatever you identify as, if it is not a person with a body that is shaped and performs like your own, you need to correct your thought pattern that got you that way as you are coming off to others as a freaking nut case and if you keep that up, not only will you not win friends and influence people (who are not also nut jobs) but you won't earn a rewarding paycheck that you can ever feel proud of putting in the effort to achieve.
But, I know what I feel. I feel- this person is broken. They need to be fixed. I can do that if they listen, or at least get them started on the mend. That is compassion, empathy, sympathy, maybe mercy if they deserve a butt kicking but are getting tea and a lecture.
Maybe that's the difference between male and female ISTP. I know what I'm feeling. I know it will evolve to something else, too. But, I also know it's all bound up in one major feeling and that feeling is, "Let's get things done." or "Let's get things fixed, so that we can get things done."
I believe this 110%!!!!!!
Oh man....
You just triggered every ISTP here :D
"Believe" is a trigger word for us,
And 110%?
Funny thing is... compliments make me feel yucky.... so this video is not really great for me :D
@@Binyamin.Tsadik Damn. Is that a general ISTP thing? If I hold anyone I know in an especially high regard, I so definitely want to compliment them! Or at least tell other people how highly I think of them. But I guess, for an ISTP, the tribe talking about you behind your back isn't so pleasant either, or is it? D: I can't keep my mouth shut, I want the people I admire to be admired by others, too :o
Yes that's why you answered on several comments and seem to be all excited about it but blasting about how it's all yucky and why did they do that to you 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dassi1565 ?
@@Binyamin.Tsadik would "ISTPs are tolerable I suppose" be a good compliment? 😁
As an INFJ I admire and connect with ISTPS. They are familiar since they have all the same functions but they are doing the things I want to do better than me. I feel constrained by my perfectionism and conceptual bullshit that their clear and individuated perspectives, not overdoing ,not under thinking is just.... I'm jealous. It's a shame I don't know more.
*I'm dead center of ISTP and INTP. I'm having a very VERY hard time picking a college major. Its killing me inside.*
sounds more like INTP with Ne that makes it hard to pick any particular direction?
@@PowerRedBullTypology actually I fall directly between INTP and ISTP. I even had one test ask me to pick between the two.
They arent that different. One is an abstract problem solver and one is a hands on problem solver.
How is the third letter of each "T" but different functions? I know a little but not as much as you, I think.
3:00 "They're less grounded, they're leaving the planet, they're into theories, they're into solving every problem before they..."
Yes! That's me!
"Not these guys [Ti/Se]. They're working."
Yes! That's not me! I'm almost the "best" type, I can see the problems and which way I should move. But I procrastinate on solving it until I first pre-solved it. I'm an idiot.
LOL! LOVE IT!!! - You are the BEST of the BEST too!!! Heart ISTP.
As an ISTP, I see anything and everything as a skill that can be mastered with knowledge and practice. At least by those with the capacity for such things, of course.
Shan we do absolutely see it like a skill
They are my favourite type!
One thing I do admired about the istp is their ability to take criticism as much as their ability to give criticism.
Is this a masculine Ti trait or feminine Ti trait?
It seems more about maturity. Either gendered Ti can react to and give criticism poorly. For M-Ti, look at Bill Gates vs. Richard Dawkins. For F-Ti, Neil DeGrasse Tyson vs. Eminem.
It's just a trait.
Masculine Ti
I have been drifting into Ti Ni as I approach mid life. I want to get back to Ti Se. Working on it.
I don't know enough about it yet, but I feel as if I was an Ti Se in my younger life and yes I was super popular and 'productive'. I appeared to do everything easily and appeared outwardly cool, calm and happy. These days after a lot of years in more the Ti Ni, I feel like I'm a wayyyy better person, I have loads of empathy, a rich emotional life, but I'm more introverted, less popular, less 'productive' and had to learn boundaries and how to develop an identity and groundedness
Michael Jordan is the first person i think of as ISTP
I knew I wasn’t just gassing myself up😎
Eminem: ISTP
Bruce Lee: ISTP
Michael Jordan: ISTP
This video was so spot on, all things that I do.
In my experience, ISTPs are the ones who don't want to believe in the MBTI personality classifying garbage. They want to stay practical, instead of being confined by hypothetical ethereal nonsense. And as an INFP, I'm like, "y not tho?"
My brother (14) I have typed to be this type. I am in such agreement with this!! He has such aggressive Ti, it's hilarious! But Oh. My. God. We might have huge arguments but he is incredible. Amazing type.
I'm officially typed as ISTP (Ti/Se). No, I'm wasn't working in my 20s. No, I wasn't making money. No, I wasn't "dialled in on success." No, I wasn't "boots on ground, making things happen." Yes, I suck with planning. Yes, I have a hard time with discipline. The attributes seem to be contradictory - how can you be working, making, money, dialled in on success, have boots on the ground, yet suck with planning and have a hard time with discipline?
i wish i was an istp lol they do seem cool
i'm still trying to figure out my type but i've now narrowed it down to single decider xNFJ/xSTP, so either ISTP or ENFJ i know that they're completely different but since i'm pretty sure i'm blast last i still could see myself being a glass lizard enfj
but idk i could be just an istp peacocking being an EJ lol
My best friend from college and for several years after was ISTP, he just decided what he wanted and went and did it. That 1st slot Ti at work. Sort of envied that being ESTP, hard to me to decide and go. I tend to wander around a bit before I can act.
My spouse.... through and through. Ti/Se.... gets sh!t DONE w/ zero drama and complete self responsibility.... deep respect.
omg lmaoo i always thought it was so weird i would know what was goin on in my head and be like ok i need to fix that lmaoooo
Them swearing in every single video and me being an ISTP asking myself is it okay to do so ? And why aren't people getting offended cuz they usually do ?
Anyway this subject is harder than i've expected. Emotions are confusing for sure.
Most of my best friends are ISTPs.
One of my close friend is an ESTP ! We think the same way it's pretty awesome
In my experience, ISTPs are poor on long term thinking, poor on emotional intelligence, and can get trapped in personal biases and end up reinforcing their prejudices, and can be highly argumentative, volotile, and eager to confrontation. I believe that this may have been an unhealthy ISTP with issues with grandiose narcissism, so I'm really hoping it's more the exception to the rule... otherwise I can't see them being the "best" personality...
This particular one your talking about definitely seems unhealthy. All of those traits are typical negative traits of ISTPs, but to combine it with narcissism suggests an unhealthy one. The other traits by themselves are often just signs of immaturity because all of those are often tied to typical insecurities. ISTPs have a need to be seen as highly competent. Combine that with low Fe, and you get someone who can be argumentative, stubborn, and insensitive, but at the same time capable of working in and with the physical world at a very high proficiency. As far as your specific ISTP goes, I would recommend trying to understand them from their perspective. You might be surprised that they aren't a bad person, but don't know how to relate to others. At least, that's how it was for me. As I've gotten older, I've gotten better dealing people and knowing when being "right" isn't always helpful.
@@VTdarkangel thanks. That was a helpful response. While I've been able to build connections in the past, things only seem to have gotten worse over time despite efforts at understanding or compassion.
I'm an ISTP who specifically found this video by searching "ISTP best type". I friggin rule!!!
lol
I had a girlfriend who was an ISTP and she broke up with me because I only liked her for her personality 😉
Thats like the biggest bs i have ever heard in my life
meaning..you did not like her looks?
@Remy B source and citation?
If what you mean is you liked her only and literally for being an ISTP then I don't blame her for doing that. 😂
Istps in my life kinda never started there hero’s journey, this is awkward
Am I the sh*t type of ISTP? Labouring on building sites in an attempt to smash investing and financial freedom (total opposites). (40) I do get the 'build my skills on something' part. Haha, in my twenties, I realised I was crap at talking to people, so became a sales person. When I was 35 I realised I hadn't completed the 'making money' sphere. I've been locked in this one for 5 years, but I am bashing my head against another road block- an utter inability to commit long term( "no I don't want a job/career", even though this is the quickest route to real estate investing)
Im an istp and im fuc*ing lazy. I love doing nothing. I dont wanna fix anything lol.
Anyone here into Hatebreed? (Metal band. The one from the "Destroy Everything" meme.)
For those who are, what'd you guess Jamey's type is? I strongly suspect he's a beta quadra decider. ISTP or ENFJ. Most most most probably an ISTP who's overcome tremendous hardship and now goes all in on Fe and Ni. Could see him as Ti/Ni. He yells at the tribe, using his Fe, Se and Ni trying to save people by yelling at them to take charge of their Ti and Se, to save themselves and overcome the same hardships he once went through.
I thought we ISTPs are the most hated one