Back when Gwen had a you tube channel & was “rewatching’ the episodes with her commentary, I recall her saying that (paraphrasing) she knew & could see that her father gave preferential treatment to Robyn’s kids, and while that was painful for her, at the same time she was happy FOR THEM that he did so.
When Meri and Kody had their breakup conversation last season Kody told her to her face that he thought she should only get 2 acres out of the 14. Now she is acting like Janelle is crazy for saying that Kody isn't going to treat her fairly. Meri, HE TOLD YOU he was going to screw you over. Please, for the love of God, believe him.
Kody’s comment about his pretty and shy wife was so ridiculous. Feels like he made the comment as an excuse for her not engaging with others very much during the party. It is also so ironic because he has made comments about the fun he had in the past with Christine who is obviously outgoing and gregarious.
Robyn was NOT shy in the early seasons when she would talk over the other Sister Wives to explain the lifestyle that she hadn't even yet lived. I think he is confusing not very smart or aware for shy.
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They will never rehab Kody's image because every time he opens his mouth he shows how much of an "A" hole he his. Even the way he over dresses and wears too much jewelry and that ridiculous hair. Kody cannot be helped and I cannot stand to see him in his scenes. I enjoy the scenes with the other wives.
Kody once said that Meri didnt share assets. I know Meri did in fact, contribute to the family financially. I also believe she was smart enough to save a good portion of her income for herself. Thats why Meri isnt as worried financially. Shes gonna be ok regardless. She really is bad ass lol
When has Kody behaved like a gentleman!? When he trashes your name? When he melted your ring? When he divorced you? When he abandoned you? And so on. Sadly, she still has feelings.
You are certainly correct about Kody sewing seeds of mistrust between the wives over the years. He deliberately wanted to keep them separate/wary of each other, with him as their only confidant. His catastrophic mistake was neglecting Christine and Janelle during Covid, which gave them time together to compare notes. They realised that neither of them were the problem, Kody was, in fact, the problem. His house of cards collapsed pretty quickly after that.
They did not get anything like a traditional mortgage on the Coyote Pass properties. It was a bizzare deal that was 5 year owner financing. All 4 lots had to be completely paid off at the end of spring 2023, or else all 4 were forfiet back to the original owner. So, it wasn't just a situation where they put some money down, made regular payments, and then had balloons at the end. Because none of their homes in Vegas had sold when they wanted to secure Coyote pass, they made a rediculous deal. But then, when the wives rejected Kody's idea of a giant house for everyone, he decided that his $$ priority was buying Robyn's home and not paying off Coyote Pass anytime soon.
I don’t understand that Meri and Janelle are on certain parcels but it has to be paid in full on all lots so the women’s parcels don’t get taken back. So technically they are all owners of all of the lots? Is Kody BS ing the gals? I don’t get it. Explain
@laneneal3510 I'm not sure which lots at this point have been paid off and which haven't. I am guessing the women were all spread out initially because he was leveraging what he expected to get out of their Las Vegas homes. He was essentially promising the original owner and the family that money from each home sale would go toward paying off the properties. Something convoluted and Kody like that. The point is that Kody's name is on every lot. This is Kody's land, Kody's bad deal. He bought 4 lots of land he couldn't afford. The only way he could do so was to tie them together and make this balloon strategy. "Paying off one lot" means absolutely nothing because none are actually paid off until the whole is paid off. AND they can't build on any of them until the whole thing is completely paid off. Absolutely the most bassackward. I know many many people who have bought land and homes, and if you can actually afford it, this isn't how anything works.
I thought kody's comment about his "shy pretty" wife just wreaked of insecurity. He had to remind himself that he had the status of a pretty wife even though she was socially awkward and not a dynamic presence.
In this episode, Meri is very guarded against Janelle, but, from what was shown, Janelle wasn’t really that good at communicating her concerns to Meri. Maybe there was more said than what was shown, but as much as I was frustrated with Meri, I was equally frustrated with Janelle
I felt like Janelle was kind of baiting Meri to ask about the expenditures apart from bills, but Meri didn't bite. She was definitely walking a fine line. Meri is clearly still very brainwashed here.
I wonder why Christine didn't sign her piece of CP over to at least Janelle when she left. They were best friends. I think she should have signed it over to both Janelle and Meri but I understand she doesn't like Meri. That would have been fair and really gotten under Kody's skin.
Christine wanted out. They were indoctrinated to believe everything is family money. So to get out with as little pain she offered a trade to Kody bc he’s the leader and had the say so. She was brave enough to say I’m not leaving with nothing. Kodys hypocrasy about he’d give the ladies money if they wanted to leave. Christine escaped a cult and narcissism. That’s why Janelle was so upset and felt stupid that she didn’t back her self up.
I felt that too. But it appears at least on the show that he kept things from each wife. Maybe C didn’t converse with J before she left about it. C just took K word for it v
I’ve alrdy said this elsewhere lol, but I honestly think Christine laid her head on his shoulder as a comfort thing because she’s in front of her abusers (Kody, and to a lesser extent Sobyn).
A couple of ways. In funds were used from that account as a down payment then everyone would have signed something stating it was ok for the funds to be removed.
What happened to Meri where she just doesn't see the man she was once married to? She is so blind to how horrible he is to her and the other wives. Let's be real with who Meri is, she doesn't really want relationships with the other ex-wives anymore than they do her. Robyn is just as conniving and disgusting as Kody because we all know that if she acts sweet and keeps her pretty self just for Kody, he'll take care of her. Robyn played him and he just doesn't know it yet.
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Mary probably knows what a lawsuit would cost her. Might not be worth it. Some lawyers will tell you honestly, but more will egg you on so they can get the coin.
I appreciate you two and your insight. It’s real. So many of the others are only looking at it through monogamous eyes and mindset. They cannot believe anyone could be that narcissistic. They don’t get that Christine escaped a cult and narcissism. Yes, they will have shame and guilt and despair and anger for years to come. I wasn’t in a cult and apologize for not giving my boys a decent father.
I think it's unlikely that Meri was traveling with Kody and Robyn to the engagement party. First, Kody and Robyn weren't going to show up, it seems to have changed very quickly but not quickly enough to mentally prepare Christine for Kody coming. Second, I think it's unlikely that Meri was traveling with Kody and Robyn but still got to the party well before them. We see Meri enter the party, where she closes the door and chats with the people before Kody and Robyn enter. If people come to parties at the same time or together, they usually walk into the party together or into the party at the same time. It's at least weird to close the door right behind you if others are standing outside. But I think you're right, TLC is creating drama and a storyline and that's why it's supposed to look like Meri might have come to the party with Kody and Robyn. But as for Kody and Robyn's children, they have always been invited to every party we've seen on Sister Wives, but now that Robyn wants her children to feel like they're ostracized by everyone, those children are never allowed to come. Gwendolyn invited all of her parents and all of her siblings, except Paedon, to her wedding and engagement party. But Gwendolyn has also said that before Christine broke up with Kody, Robyn had started treating Gwendolyn like she was dangerous and Robyn had started making sure her children didn't interact with Gwendolyn unless under very strict supervision. I don't know why Robyn decided this and based on how Gwendolyn herself talked about it, she didn't know for sure why Robyn made this decision either, but I have my suspicions that it has something to do with Gwendolyn's sexuality.
If Meri were to reframe "gentleman" as "possessing legal and moral integrity" that would have a different meaning! And Kody doesn't fit either of those categories? lol, so I'm surprised Meri is being so giving towards someone who won't hesitate to humiliate her on television
I can't bbelieve Meri expects Kody to be a gentleman after he's been a complete asshole to her and used her and taken her money for over 2 decades!!! Boggles my mind! She knows he's a scammer because he "robs Peter to pay Paul"
I believe Meri is so brainwashed by the patriarchy of her cult upbringing that she subconsciously puts down the thoughts of other women in favor for a man. So no matter what Janelle told her she would always believe Kody over Janelle because she is taught to do so. Taught he is the head of household and supreme leader. At this point she is still in a cult mindset and has yet to do therapy.
Aurora & Gwen were VERY close sisters at one time. It’s so sad to see how much control Robyn has over all her kids. IMO, Robyn doesn’t want her kids ‘influenced’ by the gay Brown kids. Gwen told a story on her you tube channel that once when Robyn & her kids were over for some occasion, little Solomon wanted to see Gwen’s room, so she took him there to show him something she had hanging on her wall, and Robyn came running in upset because she clearly didn’t want Solomon alone with Gwen. Someone tell Robyn being gay isn’t contagious, it’s not a disease (OMG I hate her!)
Kody once stated that the only thing that scares him is poverty. Not loosing his wives, children and grandchildren, only being poor would terrify him. He will try to keep as much of the property and funds as he possibly can, and does not care about the family as a whole. The minute Christine let go of her plot to get her freedom, he claimed it for himself. In his mind, the entire property should be his, because his disloyal wives have left him and no longer worship the ground he walks on. He had all these wives taking care of the family for years and now claims he never loved them from the beginning. So he actually admits that he scammed them. When he cried all these sacrifices I’ve made to love you (Christine). I literally burst out laughing. The audacity of this man! What about the massive sacrifices his wives made to be with ramen head! Oh what I’d give to shave those few remaining noodles he is clinging to. I’m sure he gets Sobyn to style it every morning for him like a “loyal” wife would do.😂
I was wondering about Kody and the boys at the party. Gabe and Hunter were there. You think they talked? I was emotional too when Christine and Meri talked and hugged. Loved when Meri said she walked in before Kody and Robyn, because she didn't want to look like the third wheel again.
Kody and Robyn were so overdressed with their jewelry. They wanted to show everyone how rich they are and look down their noses at each other. Kody is so insecure and unhappy.
Love your show. Aurora and Brianna are in prison in the McMansion. Production did Gwen dirty on her special occasion. The mirror 🪞 in the background is very distracting, IMO.
Yea it is. We are creating an actual studio in one of our guest rooms. So we will have better audio & more pleasing background options too. We are so brand new we are just trying to play catch up
@@NotestoSelf444y’all’s perspective and personality make up for it. I’m just curious as what do you think Cody and Robyn say to the older girls when they can’t go to a party like the one for Gwen? Do they bribe them with money and things?
@@NotestoSelf444 I used to have a very cult-like pastor, not so much the doctrine, but how he controlled in such subtle ways. The unspoken rules, shunning people while right in the church, everyone can see when someone falls out of favor and gets maligned without ever having their name said. I fell into the trap of letting conversations be overheard by the “pastor’s pet” knowing it would get back to the “alpha leader”. Speaking and asking questions directly was far too dangerous. Once you get labeled “Jezebel”, “rebellious” or “witch”, no one in the church will speak to you unless it’s in secret, or they will be targeted too.
@ oh believe me I know how that works. I know how it feels to be that outcast too. But these women aren’t in the relationship anymore & are all in similar situations. I would hope they would start speaking more clearly with each other.
Out of curiosity do they have a "class" or "teaching" on how to be so manipulative to their wives or how to piler money from their wives? Kody wasn't born into this so he had to learn this some how.
Can you let us know when the Kody/TLC bribe comes in? I think that is how they got rid of Gwendolyn/Benjamin Brown commentaries. Or maybe a legal threat, who knows.
Hi from Robyn in Australia. Meri and Janelle both put their equity money from the sale of their Vegas homes to Robyn and Kody for the deposit on the McMansion. Jenelle gave all of hers and Meri a “huge chunk” according to Jenelle. There was no real proof until dumb Robyn said in an interview that they did put money towards the deposit and the home was never intended to be hers and Kodys it was the family’s. This guy thinks he is above the law and I’m starting to believe he just might be. What he has done has to be illegal.
I absolutely think they have more insight into each other’s relationships than they claim. With that many children I’m sure word makes its way back to them. I am also certain that Kody created competition amongst them. I’m really curious about Kody’s mother and Janelle’s mother and what their relationship looked like after their husband died. Robyn is so hyper focused on the porch rocking chair scenario and I wonder why she thought that is how the future would look.
Because we were sold a story growing up & how beautiful this way of life is. Robyn bought into that story but her actions don’t create that type of life.
I wondered if meri has trust issues with Janelle bc of how their journey started. A bit of sneaking around and Janelle being previously married to her brother. Trauma.
My son’s 46 and he has Paedon’s since of humor! He’s hilarious. I’m not a hugger but I’m working on that with family. Kody won’t touch Ari! Aww you think it was staged. Hitting the truck? Is it true they can’t build on it anyway unless it’s commercial or maybe second homes?
I thought that it said a lot about Janelle’s character that she cared enough about Meri to try to warn her. I hope at this point Meri has changed her feelings about this.
I think Meri will continue to choose loyalty to Kody over Janelle and Christine forever. I don’t think she can accept that her marriage was a sham because it would be too devastating to her.
Janelle has always had respect for Meri's loyalty to the family. When the legal divorce happened, Janelle commented that she knew Meri would always be fair with everyone. I think the fact that she said that on camera years ago should have made Meri feel at least a little that Janelle would be on the same page and confide in her in good faith.
Kody has showed us that he has a lack of morals, values, and beliefs. As far as rewriting K and R they may try but they don’t see themselves as having an internal issue = no character change.
They have paid the land already and I bet Janelle and Meri paid what was missing payment for their part instead of saying Kody now u use your and Robyn's money to pay the rest alone to repay us for the money we put into Robyn's house mortgage money down payment. But I doubt it. How come Kody initially is surprised Janelle doesn't want to build on the land then say if she does him and Robyn won't stay there. Agree Kody wont be a gentleman in any sense of the word.
Gwen and savanna both get overlooked. And honestly mykelti gets hate but she’s a literal product of the religion. Being overlooked and fighting for attention. Sad.
And I don’t see a lot of difference in the sort of “look at me” behaviors betwixt mykelti and Christine. Again, not their fault. But it’s received very differently.
@ same. I was raised in the patriarchy and now I’m lucky to be with someone (finally) who understands if I don’t feel heard and have an outburst. Can’t keep us sweet forever🤷🏻♀️
Hi an example of Kody breading mistrust between the ex's like in the last episode saying I will never say anything bad about Meri.....(pause)...... again. I think the wives need to assume if Kody's mouth is moving with sound coming out He is lying.
SOMETHING ABOUT MARY..., I don't feel one bit bad for Mary, I think She being the first wife and legal One made Janelle and Christine's Life MISERABLE and it looks like none of those kids really like Her . When Mary was Catfished , Had that been a real Man she would have long left.. and She is not very intelligent compared to Janell, ..., In this episode Janelle is trying to have her back and Her interest based on just on All these 3 Women were played and Mary still says I don't trust Janelle..., They don't trust You Ms. Mary for very good reason's...
The reason Meri was so shy and didn’t date or didn’t have many friends and no one noticed her is from her indoctrinated upbringing. Living in that religious cult bends the mind. Its trauma. She is going to have years of Ah moments. It’s going to come slowly, and she will go thru the grieving and despair and anger time and time again.
@@laneneal3510 WHO EVER SAID MERI WAS SHY..., I HAVE A LOT OF LIVED EXPERIENCES RAISED IN A ROMAN CATHOLIC VERY STRICK FAMILY WITH 9 CHILDREN AND AM NOW 63 YRS OLD..., SO YOUR REPLY TO MY COMMENT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE , NOR DO I CARE... BYE.
It's italian, but K thinks it's Spanish. He's clumsily making the point that the kids are half Hispanic. It was like when he asked Mykelti's daughter to "samba". The only thing he thinks when he sees those kids is that they have Mexican genes or something.
@@AlbertaIvy754 good point. Yea I’ve noticed that too. My kids have Hispanic heritage & it’s prominent in their features. My dad would speak to my daughter very similarly. My dad has a deep love for the Hispanic culture though. I hope it’s K embracing what he thinks is part of the culture & not using it as a token.
I said that was just my opinion. I don’t know for sure. That is typically what happens in these situations. If Janelle was concerned about it there was probably a reason for it.
@@NotestoSelf444I grew up in a cult and as most of us who have know, “snitching” is rewarded, encouraged and even used to weaponize and sew distrust to keep everyone under control. Meri would have this conditioning that she will get “rewarded” and find favour, a little hit of dopamine from getting that “atta girl” from a normally withholding, stonewalling leader/person of authority (normally the patriarch of family or cult), for feeding pertinent information back to them.
Hi from Robyn in Australia. Meri and Janelle both put their equity money from the sale of their Vegas homes to Robyn and Kody for the deposit on the McMansion. Jenelle gave all of hers and Meri a “huge chunk” according to Jenelle. There was no real proof until dumb Robyn said in an interview that they did put money towards the deposit and the home was never intended to be hers and Kodys it was the family’s. This guy thinks he is above the law and I’m starting to believe he just might be. What he has done has to be illegal.
Back when Gwen had a you tube channel & was “rewatching’ the episodes with her commentary, I recall her saying that (paraphrasing) she knew & could see that her father gave preferential treatment to Robyn’s kids, and while that was painful for her, at the same time she was happy FOR THEM that he did so.
@@bunnybunny3536 that just shows what great kids these children are too
When Meri and Kody had their breakup conversation last season Kody told her to her face that he thought she should only get 2 acres out of the 14. Now she is acting like Janelle is crazy for saying that Kody isn't going to treat her fairly. Meri, HE TOLD YOU he was going to screw you over. Please, for the love of God, believe him.
@@cherilynelia5448 yes! I remember this conversation. I’m curious why she chose to address Janelle the way she did then 🤔
Expects him to behave like a gentlemen 😂
That made me think either that conversation was fake for TV or Meri is extremely dumb. She doesn't sound dumb go me.
Someone much smarter than me once said, “When someone shows you who they are, believe them”.
@ 100%!!
Did you hear what Kody said about how he has a 7 year old and she's more fun than any of his grandchildren???? He never sees his grandchildren!
@@sharonallenallen3941 heartbreaking
And he said that in front of Christine and Truly is only 2 years older than Ari 😢
@@NikkiLovesYouLotsxthere’s almost six years between Truley and Ari, there’s a year and a half between Sol and Truely.
@ ooh got the kids mixed up. Still 6 years isnt that huge. Bet that line upset Truly
My mouth DROPPED. Why even take it there? Who even thinks to take it there?
Yes! The scene outside was very telling. It’s clear Robyn has expressed to Kody that he needs control his anger around her children.
@@michele1491 agreed
Yes but by the way - what that kid did was NOT an accident. She's clearly a spoiled brat.
Kody’s comment about his pretty and shy wife was so ridiculous. Feels like he made the comment as an excuse for her not engaging with others very much during the party. It is also so ironic because he has made comments about the fun he had in the past with Christine who is obviously outgoing and gregarious.
@@michele1491 great point
Robyn was NOT shy in the early seasons when she would talk over the other Sister Wives to explain the lifestyle that she hadn't even yet lived. I think he is confusing not very smart or aware for shy.
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@@cathyferran7291 yes we will go live this week. I don’t know TH-cam live yet so we will be learning. Thank you for the support 🙏🏻
They will never rehab Kody's image because every time he opens his mouth he shows how much of an "A" hole he his. Even the way he over dresses and wears too much jewelry and that ridiculous hair. Kody cannot be helped and I cannot stand to see him in his scenes. I enjoy the scenes with the other wives.
@@sharonallenallen3941 I agree. He puts his foot in his mouth more often than not.
Kody once said that Meri didnt share assets. I know Meri did in fact, contribute to the family financially. I also believe she was smart enough to save a good portion of her income for herself. Thats why Meri isnt as worried financially. Shes gonna be ok regardless. She really is bad ass lol
I agree. She’s amazing
When has Kody behaved like a gentleman!?
When he trashes your name?
When he melted your ring?
When he divorced you?
When he abandoned you?
And so on.
Sadly, she still has feelings.
I was surprised by the gentleman comments myself. He hasn’t shown himself to be a gentleman at all.
You are certainly correct about Kody sewing seeds of mistrust between the wives over the years. He deliberately wanted to keep them separate/wary of each other, with him as their only confidant. His catastrophic mistake was neglecting Christine and Janelle during Covid, which gave them time together to compare notes. They realised that neither of them were the problem, Kody was, in fact, the problem. His house of cards collapsed pretty quickly after that.
@@CK-mw3pv this is typical behavior for these men.
They did not get anything like a traditional mortgage on the Coyote Pass properties. It was a bizzare deal that was 5 year owner financing. All 4 lots had to be completely paid off at the end of spring 2023, or else all 4 were forfiet back to the original owner. So, it wasn't just a situation where they put some money down, made regular payments, and then had balloons at the end. Because none of their homes in Vegas had sold when they wanted to secure Coyote pass, they made a rediculous deal. But then, when the wives rejected Kody's idea of a giant house for everyone, he decided that his $$ priority was buying Robyn's home and not paying off Coyote Pass anytime soon.
I don’t understand that Meri and Janelle are on certain parcels but it has to be paid in full on all lots so the women’s parcels don’t get taken back. So technically they are all owners of all of the lots? Is Kody BS ing the gals? I don’t get it. Explain
@laneneal3510 I'm not sure which lots at this point have been paid off and which haven't. I am guessing the women were all spread out initially because he was leveraging what he expected to get out of their Las Vegas homes. He was essentially promising the original owner and the family that money from each home sale would go toward paying off the properties. Something convoluted and Kody like that. The point is that Kody's name is on every lot. This is Kody's land, Kody's bad deal. He bought 4 lots of land he couldn't afford. The only way he could do so was to tie them together and make this balloon strategy. "Paying off one lot" means absolutely nothing because none are actually paid off until the whole is paid off. AND they can't build on any of them until the whole thing is completely paid off. Absolutely the most bassackward. I know many many people who have bought land and homes, and if you can actually afford it, this isn't how anything works.
I thought kody's comment about his "shy pretty" wife just wreaked of insecurity. He had to remind himself that he had the status of a pretty wife even though she was socially awkward and not a dynamic presence.
Or was it to remind Robin that she is now "shy".
Good point
It felt insecure to me too
In this episode, Meri is very guarded against Janelle, but, from what was shown, Janelle wasn’t really that good at communicating her concerns to Meri. Maybe there was more said than what was shown, but as much as I was frustrated with Meri, I was equally frustrated with Janelle
Yes I agree. There is to much political correctness & not enough genuine honesty
I felt like Janelle was kind of baiting Meri to ask about the expenditures apart from bills, but Meri didn't bite. She was definitely walking a fine line. Meri is clearly still very brainwashed here.
I wonder why Christine didn't sign her piece of CP over to at least Janelle when she left. They were best friends. I think she should have signed it over to both Janelle and Meri but I understand she doesn't like Meri. That would have been fair and really gotten under Kody's skin.
That's what surprised me. She should've at least signed it over to Janelle.
Christine wanted out. They were indoctrinated to believe everything is family money. So to get out with as little pain she offered a trade to Kody bc he’s the leader and had the say so. She was brave enough to say I’m not leaving with nothing. Kodys hypocrasy about he’d give the ladies money if they wanted to leave. Christine escaped a cult and narcissism. That’s why Janelle was so upset and felt stupid that she didn’t back her self up.
I felt that too. But it appears at least on the show that he kept things from each wife. Maybe C didn’t converse with J before she left about it. C just took K word for it v
Yes!
That’s a brilliant phrase, Kody fatigue syndrome.
@@jananderson5712 yes it is
I’ve alrdy said this elsewhere lol, but I honestly think Christine laid her head on his shoulder as a comfort thing because she’s in front of her abusers (Kody, and to a lesser extent Sobyn).
I love that David is safe enough for her.
Kody has always said the family fund was a LLC with everyones name on that LLC. How does that work with mortgages?
A couple of ways. In funds were used from that account as a down payment then everyone would have signed something stating it was ok for the funds to be removed.
Kody doesn't see he can't disparage his kids on tv and their moms and expect to be in full relationship with his kids
@@cathyferran7291 yea it’s kinda blowing.
What happened to Meri where she just doesn't see the man she was once married to? She is so blind to how horrible he is to her and the other wives. Let's be real with who Meri is, she doesn't really want relationships with the other ex-wives anymore than they do her.
Robyn is just as conniving and disgusting as Kody because we all know that if she acts sweet and keeps her pretty self just for Kody, he'll take care of her. Robyn played him and he just doesn't know it yet.
I agree. I hope these women find peace with each other.
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Kody’s God is the Old Testament God. Can’t wait for your podcast ❤ Opportunity for those interviews. There are a couple of podcasts you probably know about that you should get an interview with to hype up your podcast: Mormon Stories…Alyssa Grenfell…Cults to Consciousness
Haha good point. That God wasn’t very happy most of the time. I’ve done a few interviews already but not those 3.
I think Meri was putting the money she earned from her businesses into the family account and that's why Robyn is so sad to see her leave.
@@sharonallenallen3941 I really hope not 🥺
Knowing the show will stop at some time.yes!
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Mary probably knows what a lawsuit would cost her. Might not be worth it. Some lawyers will tell you honestly, but more will egg you on so they can get the coin.
Very true
I appreciate you two and your insight. It’s real. So many of the others are only looking at it through monogamous eyes and mindset. They cannot believe anyone could be that narcissistic. They don’t get that Christine escaped a cult and narcissism. Yes, they will have shame and guilt and despair and anger for years to come. I wasn’t in a cult and apologize for not giving my boys a decent father.
Thank you 🙏🏻 Cult mental, emotional & spiritual trauma is real. We do the best with what we know at the time. 🥰
Remember the group or Kody told them not to help Mary with the purchase of the B&B.
I I don’t know that.
I think it's unlikely that Meri was traveling with Kody and Robyn to the engagement party. First, Kody and Robyn weren't going to show up, it seems to have changed very quickly but not quickly enough to mentally prepare Christine for Kody coming. Second, I think it's unlikely that Meri was traveling with Kody and Robyn but still got to the party well before them. We see Meri enter the party, where she closes the door and chats with the people before Kody and Robyn enter. If people come to parties at the same time or together, they usually walk into the party together or into the party at the same time. It's at least weird to close the door right behind you if others are standing outside. But I think you're right, TLC is creating drama and a storyline and that's why it's supposed to look like Meri might have come to the party with Kody and Robyn.
But as for Kody and Robyn's children, they have always been invited to every party we've seen on Sister Wives, but now that Robyn wants her children to feel like they're ostracized by everyone, those children are never allowed to come. Gwendolyn invited all of her parents and all of her siblings, except Paedon, to her wedding and engagement party. But Gwendolyn has also said that before Christine broke up with Kody, Robyn had started treating Gwendolyn like she was dangerous and Robyn had started making sure her children didn't interact with Gwendolyn unless under very strict supervision. I don't know why Robyn decided this and based on how Gwendolyn herself talked about it, she didn't know for sure why Robyn made this decision either, but I have my suspicions that it has something to do with Gwendolyn's sexuality.
Not sure if others saw what i saw..you guys caught in a loop and repeating some of your comments. Glad you started over.
Yes our internet went down & was sketchy for a minute. It’s so frustrating. This of course was Live so we just rolled with it.
Melanie, don't you mean that it was a knife in the kidneys? 🤣
😂😂
I've heard the new house Kody and Robin bought was out into a trust to keep Christine from getting to the money in court.
I don’t doubt that at all
It’s funny, I love that picture of Gwyn too but she hates it, lol
Sad, she’s so stunning in that picture.
Robyn's oldest 3 are adults living at home, and Truly is only a year older than Solomon.
It’s so sad the difference in the treatment
If Meri were to reframe "gentleman" as "possessing legal and moral integrity" that would have a different meaning! And Kody doesn't fit either of those categories? lol, so I'm surprised Meri is being so giving towards someone who won't hesitate to humiliate her on television
@@BerryHair405 so true
Christine has beautiful daughters...Aspyn and Ysabel look ALOT alike..❤
@@barbaramay5048 yes they do. They are gorgeous inside and out.
I can't bbelieve Meri expects Kody to be a gentleman after he's been a complete asshole to her and used her and taken her money for over 2 decades!!! Boggles my mind! She knows he's a scammer because he "robs Peter to pay Paul"
@@sharonallenallen3941 great perspective!
The misplaced continued loyalty is mind boggling
@ I agree
Ya think?! She’s clueless
I believe Meri is so brainwashed by the patriarchy of her cult upbringing that she subconsciously puts down the thoughts of other women in favor for a man. So no matter what Janelle told her she would always believe Kody over Janelle because she is taught to do so. Taught he is the head of household and supreme leader. At this point she is still in a cult mindset and has yet to do therapy.
Melanie , the new house is in a trust
@@cathyferran7291 yea that was smart on their part.
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Aurora & Gwen were VERY close sisters at one time. It’s so sad to see how much control Robyn has over all her kids. IMO, Robyn doesn’t want her kids ‘influenced’ by the gay Brown kids. Gwen told a story on her you tube channel that once when Robyn & her kids were over for some occasion, little Solomon wanted to see Gwen’s room, so she took him there to show him something she had hanging on her wall, and Robyn came running in upset because she clearly didn’t want Solomon alone with Gwen. Someone tell Robyn being gay isn’t contagious, it’s not a disease (OMG I hate her!)
I can literally see that happening bawd on my own other mother’s behavior. She needed to protect her kids from the unrighteousness children too 🥺
It was actually because she collects swords lol
Concerning finances, remember he tried it with Christine’s house but her name was on the deed.
Yea she would have been left with nothing if she didn’t have that.
Kody once stated that the only thing that scares him is poverty. Not loosing his wives, children and grandchildren, only being poor would terrify him.
He will try to keep as much of the property and funds as he possibly can, and does not care about the family as a whole. The minute Christine let go of her plot to get her freedom, he claimed it for himself. In his mind, the entire property should be his, because his disloyal wives have left him and no longer worship the ground he walks on. He had all these wives taking care of the family for years and now claims he never loved them from the beginning. So he actually admits that he scammed them. When he cried all these sacrifices I’ve made to love you (Christine). I literally burst out laughing. The audacity of this man! What about the massive sacrifices his wives made to be with ramen head! Oh what I’d give to shave those few remaining noodles he is clinging to. I’m sure he gets Sobyn to style it every morning for him like a “loyal” wife would do.😂
I think you are right. Those women will only get what he is forced into handing over.
Sad that Aurora wasn’t at the engagement party.
I think so too
I was wondering about Kody and the boys at the party. Gabe and Hunter were there. You think they talked?
I was emotional too when Christine and Meri talked and hugged.
Loved when Meri said she walked in before Kody and Robyn, because she didn't want to look like the third wheel again.
Great question! I hope they did & some healing happened. Those boys need a healthy masculinity man
I think Kody is a monster. There, I said it.
I agree. There I said it too 😉
@@NotestoSelf444 LOL!
Kody and Robyn were so overdressed with their jewelry. They wanted to show everyone how rich they are and look down their noses at each other. Kody is so insecure and unhappy.
@@sharonallenallen3941 it felt that way to me too
@@sharonallenallen3941 I felt that too
Materialism like that is more disgusting than a tattoo.
Love your show. Aurora and Brianna are in prison in the McMansion. Production did Gwen dirty on her special occasion.
The mirror 🪞 in the background is very distracting, IMO.
Yea it is. We are creating an actual studio in one of our guest rooms. So we will have better audio & more pleasing background options too. We are so brand new we are just trying to play catch up
@@NotestoSelf444y’all’s perspective and personality make up for it. I’m just curious as what do you think Cody and Robyn say to the older girls when they can’t go to a party like the one for Gwen? Do they bribe them with money and things?
@ I don’t think they tell them they can’t go. I think they’ve convinced the girls the family doesn’t like them so the girls don’t want to go.
Do you think there’s a chance Janelle said anything to Meri knowing it would get back to Kody?
Absolutely
@@NotestoSelf444 I used to have a very cult-like pastor, not so much the doctrine, but how he controlled in such subtle ways. The unspoken rules, shunning people while right in the church, everyone can see when someone falls out of favor and gets maligned without ever having their name said.
I fell into the trap of letting conversations be overheard by the “pastor’s pet” knowing it would get back to the “alpha leader”. Speaking and asking questions directly was far too dangerous.
Once you get labeled “Jezebel”, “rebellious” or “witch”, no one in the church will speak to you unless it’s in secret, or they will be targeted too.
@ oh believe me I know how that works. I know how it feels to be that outcast too. But these women aren’t in the relationship anymore & are all in similar situations. I would hope they would start speaking more clearly with each other.
Madison has to be crushed to see Kody with the twin boys when he can’t be bothered with her kids. So hurtful
@@maryS1977 I feel for her
Out of curiosity do they have a "class" or "teaching" on how to be so manipulative to their wives or how to piler money from their wives? Kody wasn't born into this so he had to learn this some how.
I think it is so rampant that they just learn from each other
Can you let us know when the Kody/TLC bribe comes in? I think that is how they got rid of Gwendolyn/Benjamin Brown commentaries. Or maybe a legal threat, who knows.
@@charmingfrock101 😂😂 absolutely
Janelle knew about Meri's release because Kody called and told her. Meri knows nothing, Kody doesn't tell her.
@@Mtrench101202 sad for them
the kids have said once Leon left the home Meri was really only seen when they were filming .... otherwise she was basically shunned by the family.
So sad 🥺
Hi from Robyn in Australia. Meri and Janelle both put their equity money from the sale of their Vegas homes to Robyn and Kody for the deposit on the McMansion. Jenelle gave all of hers and Meri a “huge chunk” according to Jenelle. There was no real proof until dumb Robyn said in an interview that they did put money towards the deposit and the home was never intended to be hers and Kodys it was the family’s. This guy thinks he is above the law and I’m starting to believe he just might be. What he has done has to be illegal.
@@dvdezy1167 I hope that comments can be used in court to get these women their fair share.
@@dvdezy1167 Thank you & Welcome 🥰
I absolutely think they have more insight into each other’s relationships than they claim. With that many children I’m sure word makes its way back to them. I am also certain that Kody created competition amongst them. I’m really curious about Kody’s mother and Janelle’s mother and what their relationship looked like after their husband died. Robyn is so hyper focused on the porch rocking chair scenario and I wonder why she thought that is how the future would look.
I wonder if Robyn saw that where she grew up in that polygomous enclave in Montana?
Because we were sold a story growing up & how beautiful this way of life is. Robyn bought into that story but her actions don’t create that type of life.
I would say there is no way she say that. I’ve never seen it. Especially not in my dad’s family. Nothing even remotely close to it either
When they moved to flagstaff it was under Kody Brown Entertainment LLC
I doubt that even exists or is used anymore. Curious.
I wondered if meri has trust issues with Janelle bc of how their journey started. A bit of sneaking around and Janelle being previously married to her brother. Trauma.
Yea I can see that
When they broke up they all got there own LLC there new mansion they just bought is under White Stone Trust
I definitely think TLC is trying hard to make Kody look Iike a decent person.
I agree. It’s been apparent Themis whole season.
Kody doesn't have relationships with all his grandkids.maddys kids haven't seen him in years
That is so sad
My son’s 46 and he has Paedon’s since of humor! He’s hilarious. I’m not a hugger but I’m working on that with family. Kody won’t touch Ari! Aww you think it was staged. Hitting the truck? Is it true they can’t build on it anyway unless it’s commercial or maybe second homes?
@@Nightbird1914 I have no idea about anything with the land.
Logan and Leon asked their names not be mentioned on the show. Meri did say she hold “my child” about the release.
That is respectable
I thought that it said a lot about Janelle’s character that she cared enough about Meri to try to warn her. I hope at this point Meri has changed her feelings about this.
@@hollishaley-o5u me too. I thought it was very kind of her.
Janelle says in a podcast interview that her and Meri team up on a common cause, so hopefully they get their fair share of the property.. 😢
@ I really hope so
I think Meri will continue to choose loyalty to Kody over Janelle and Christine forever. I don’t think she can accept that her marriage was a sham because it would be too devastating to her.
Janelle has always had respect for Meri's loyalty to the family. When the legal divorce happened, Janelle commented that she knew Meri would always be fair with everyone. I think the fact that she said that on camera years ago should have made Meri feel at least a little that Janelle would be on the same page and confide in her in good faith.
Hi Cory & Melanie!
@@valadia4715 hey there!
@NotestoSelf444 Hi!🙂
Hi Valadia, Melanie and Cory are so fun and smart
Kody has showed us that he has a lack of morals, values, and beliefs. As far as rewriting K and R they may try but they don’t see themselves as having an internal issue = no character change.
Yes I see that too.
When you say "All Red" is that like being a ginger red head? I'm a red head.
@@conniegalassi9167 😂😂 no their last name is Allred.
That was their last name. Alred. Christine is part of that clan
They have paid the land already and I bet Janelle and Meri paid what was missing payment for their part instead of saying Kody now u use your and Robyn's money to pay the rest alone to repay us for the money we put into Robyn's house mortgage money down payment. But I doubt it. How come Kody initially is surprised Janelle doesn't want to build on the land then say if she does him and Robyn won't stay there. Agree Kody wont be a gentleman in any sense of the word.
I don’t think he will even slightly be a gentleman. There just based on past behavior
I noticed there is a lot of repeating in this episode. 😊
Yes our internet was skipping so horribly. It cleans up towards the end The next 2 episodes it quits
yeah i think they were having some internet issues
Gwen and savanna both get overlooked. And honestly mykelti gets hate but she’s a literal product of the religion. Being overlooked and fighting for attention. Sad.
And I don’t see a lot of difference in the sort of “look at me” behaviors betwixt mykelti and Christine. Again, not their fault. But it’s received very differently.
We all develop coping mechanisms. I repeat myself a lot. I never felt heard so I repeat things to make sure people heard me. 🥺
It’s really sad what we do to cope in religious extremism
@ same. I was raised in the patriarchy and now I’m lucky to be with someone (finally) who understands if I don’t feel heard and have an outburst. Can’t keep us sweet forever🤷🏻♀️
Ugh. The shame. Our sad little default setting.
The land they paid in cash the 2 big lots and owner financed the other two
That’s what I’ve heard
Robyn's father lived with another wife and Robyn's mother was not the favorite.
@@sharonallenallen3941 yea I don’t know that for sure. One wife lived in Montana while the other wife lived in Utah/Nevada area
Hi an example of Kody breading mistrust between the ex's like in the last episode saying I will never say anything bad about Meri.....(pause)...... again. I think the wives need to assume if Kody's mouth is moving with sound coming out He is lying.
@@lynnemanwaring exactly, and if he’s talking trashy about 1 he’s doing it about all of them.
SOMETHING ABOUT MARY..., I don't feel one bit bad for Mary, I think She being the first wife and legal One made Janelle and Christine's Life MISERABLE and it looks like none of those kids really like Her . When Mary was Catfished , Had that been a real Man she would have long left.. and She is not very intelligent compared to Janell, ..., In this episode Janelle is trying to have her back and Her interest based on just on All these 3 Women were played and Mary still says I don't trust Janelle..., They don't trust You Ms. Mary for very good reason's...
The reason Meri was so shy and didn’t date or didn’t have many friends and no one noticed her is from her indoctrinated upbringing. Living in that religious cult bends the mind. Its trauma. She is going to have years of Ah moments. It’s going to come slowly, and she will go thru the grieving and despair and anger time and time again.
@@laneneal3510 WHO EVER SAID MERI WAS SHY..., I HAVE A LOT OF LIVED EXPERIENCES RAISED IN A ROMAN CATHOLIC VERY STRICK FAMILY WITH 9 CHILDREN AND AM NOW 63 YRS OLD..., SO YOUR REPLY TO MY COMMENT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE , NOR DO I CARE... BYE.
What is this bambino all about I don’t recall kody calling his infants bambino’s
Me either. I think it’s related to Tony’s culture.
It's italian, but K thinks it's Spanish. He's clumsily making the point that the kids are half Hispanic. It was like when he asked Mykelti's daughter to "samba". The only thing he thinks when he sees those kids is that they have Mexican genes or something.
@@AlbertaIvy754 good point. Yea I’ve noticed that too. My kids have Hispanic heritage & it’s prominent in their features. My dad would speak to my daughter very similarly. My dad has a deep love for the Hispanic culture though. I hope it’s K embracing what he thinks is part of the culture & not using it as a token.
No shame - when they really see it for what it is the
women try to do better
I agree
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Mari will get 1.49 acres.
@@CherylWolfhope that’s sad. That’s definitely not 25% of the value of the full property
Why would you think Meri would run and tell Kody what Janelle said? You shouldn’t put something like that out there unless you can back it up.
I said that was just my opinion. I don’t know for sure. That is typically what happens in these situations. If Janelle was concerned about it there was probably a reason for it.
@@NotestoSelf444I grew up in a cult and as most of us who have know, “snitching” is rewarded, encouraged and even used to weaponize and sew distrust to keep everyone under control. Meri would have this conditioning that she will get “rewarded” and find favour, a little hit of dopamine from getting that “atta girl” from a normally withholding, stonewalling leader/person of authority (normally the patriarch of family or cult), for feeding pertinent information back to them.
@@ViolAM3 this exactly ☝️
@@freelancerjourn because that’s what Meri does best, she loves to be in the know so she can run and tell. She’s a mean girl.
Hi from Robyn in Australia. Meri and Janelle both put their equity money from the sale of their Vegas homes to Robyn and Kody for the deposit on the McMansion. Jenelle gave all of hers and Meri a “huge chunk” according to Jenelle. There was no real proof until dumb Robyn said in an interview that they did put money towards the deposit and the home was never intended to be hers and Kodys it was the family’s. This guy thinks he is above the law and I’m starting to believe he just might be. What he has done has to be illegal.
You would think so right?! Maybe the law will catch up to him sooner than later.
@@NotestoSelf444 we can only hope that they do.
I’m hoping the judge takes in accord that these women were led down a cults life and have been bamboozled the whole marriage.