Roland TD-17 Review (Nerd Version)
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- The Roland TD-17 is one of the best electronic drum sets for its price. Check this video to learn more…
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The Roland TD-17 is a revolutionary new electronic drum set. It comes with high-quality components that used to be very expensive in the past. Now you get a modern low latency module with one of the best electronic drum hi-hats on the market for an incredible price.
In this review I will go over all features of the set, explain the components in detail and compare the 3 versions (Roland TD-17K-L, Roland TD-17KV & Roland TD-17KVX).
Special thanks to Roland for inviting us!
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I agree with pretty much everything in this video. I can't remember a time when Roland priced it's kits so well. The TD17 line is way better than the competition. It was great meeting you too at the event :D
Derek Frampton he’s real :D and he’s a really nice guy too
Derek Frampton Justin has almost revealed my face:D
Clearly meant to undercut the Strike (non-pro) and it does so wonderfully. If they'd just got positional sensing on the snare I would have probably bought one (same reason I am not getting an alesis strike). My VST (superior drummer 3) has 3 zones snare position, and I want to use it!! :P
misterringer what about a TD-12 full set or TD-20? I think they are both great for PS.
TD-10 does it too I believe, and due to it's age and somewhat dated sounds can be had a bit cheaper than a td-12 or td-20 (still 2k to 3k every time one pops up).
I know I wouldn't be able to split the tom inputs because of piezo/switch, but I'm not super worried about that.
One thing I was curious about is if I could add a second 3 zone ride to a TD-10 module (or TD-20 for that matter if I found the right deal). Don't think I can just use 2 spare inputs for it, but I could have swore I've seen it on a roland kit before, but maybe they were using 2 modules and I just didn't notice.
Thanks for the response and the informative videos (you and Justin :) )
L stands for "Looking Desperately for Bluetooth Feature" hahahahaha
came down here just to write that... awesome!
I have the TD17 KVX for 2 days now... have been playing on it for at least 10h since... Just love it... I'm not a e-drum reviewer but that beauty is the best for its price without a doubt !
I bought the 17-kv , I'm a total beginner and I absolutely love it. I have never owned drum sticks before.
I’ve been a drummer for 16 years. I learned on a Roland TD9. I’ve had my acoustic for these 16 years, but haven’t been able to buy an e-kit until now. I’m undecided about the TD17KVX vs the DTX 8.
8:57 Everlong!
Lol only noticed this because I've been practicing it for the talent show for a month
Thanks! This was a great review! I'm converting a set to electronic now. Was holding off on buying a drum module until the right one caught my attention. I have been going back and forth between 3 or 4 but, the more videos I watch, the more I am leaning towards this module. It just seems like such a deal for 600 bucks.
martymet It really is.
This is by far the best review of the TD-17 line on TH-cam right now. I work at a music store in Canada called Long & McQuade Music and I just traded in all of my drum hardware, TD-9 brain and triggers for the TD-17KVX. I have been waiting YEARS to make a "EZ-Drummer stand alone" brain. The time is now!
Thanks for this video. Really good content. I will share with every customer I talk too who is interested in this line.
Thanks Curtis! That means a lot to me! Yes, I love the TD-9, but the TD-17 is better.
"EZ-Drummer stand alone" brain?
PLEASE explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thx
Jim Cheseborough usually you have to have a laptop hooked up to your brain to play ezdrummer and superior drummer samples. This new kit allows you to load in your favorite toontrack sounds or kits from the SD card eliminating the use for the computer. Very slick
Thanks for the review. You and 65 drums Justin have pretty much convinced me to go with the TD-17KVX (vs. the KV).
You will love it:)
How did you find it? I’m thinking about getting the KV as well as a CY13. I used to have a td9 and didn’t mind the hi hat, and space is at a premium. Cheers
@@nic.e The ride is finicky. You have to hit the bell just right to get it to do the bell sound. Otherwise you just get the normal sound. Once you get used to it, it's easier to get it right consistently. Kick pad is good, and high hat worked fine for me right out of the box, but it was probably calibrated by the store/former owner. (Bought used from a second hand shop.) That said, placing the high hat stand becomes an issue with a double kick pedal and limited space on the 120cm x 130 cm mat, which I got and put on top of a 120 x 120 foam and rubber mat to reduce noise to neighboring apts. It's always gonna be a compromise. Tom and snare pads feel fine, but can be tricky to place due to the limits of the hardware. Same goes for the module. It really needs a better mount to give you more options. As for the cymbals, I got the old style hardware with metal booms, which work fine, but I have no idea about the newer version of the rack. Downside on the module is there's only one regular midi port, and it can't read 24 bit or 48khz wav so you can't just use raw tracks from a recording session to play along with. Gotta bounce to 16 bit 44.1. I tested the sample feature, but haven't had time to trim my own samples. Gotta cut off any empty space at the beginning to prevent delay on triggering. But it worked, so the option is there. Not really impressed with the stock sounds, but there are some fun ones in there.
The 6 to 3.5mm adapter is important.. I leave those in the jack of amps and stuff so I only wear up the cable from the headphone (wich is replaceble) instead of the actual jack port from all the plug\unplug !
You're "best feature," the 3.5 headphone jack had me cursing last night when I opened/setup this kit! My nice expensive studio headphones use 1/4" as god intended!
Very informative and your sense of humor really resonated with me, lol. Excellent video, man 👍🏻
Thanks for the review. I'm a new drummer, and will be receiving my first kit tomorrow. It looks like I made a good decision (KV).
Holy crap! Are you rich hahaha? Congratulations tho
@@rodriguezelfeliz4623 😂
I like the sounds a lot, people just like complaining.
ColdfacekillerJr CFK exactly
Really ?? Record yourself doing a drum solo and it’ll break your spirits at how bad/fake it sounds
Thank you so much for your incredibly intelligent and comprehensive review. You have helped me very much and I can’t tell you how much I appreciate it. When ready I will definitely buy through your embedded links. I hope in some measure this will reward you for your efforts.
That is very nice of you. I am glad you could gain of the video:)
Top shelf. Been looking hard at this line. I think you've convinced me to go full KVX. Seems like that would be the choice in the long run despite the short-term wallet drain.
Did you end up getting the KVX?
@@jayc9045 I did!
Brubaker's Flatcakes I’m contemplating either getting the KV or the KVX. Do you think it was worth the extra money for the KVX?
@@jayc9045 I always think it's best to get the maximum you can afford. I have some expensive guitars that after 20 years of ownership I still don't regret. I picked up the KVX via Kraft Music in the USA. They usually have bundles and great prices.
It's been awhile and I cannot recall the difference between the KV vs KVX but I'm happy with purchase.
Brubaker's Flatcakes Some very good points! Glad to hear you’re still enjoying the kit! 🤘🏼
Just bought the TD17KV-X today. Comes in Saturday and I am so excited 😁
Thank you very much for this video. I guess you’re the only one who gives such detailed information even for the triggering of software instruments on the computer.
Thanks, well that is an important detail for many people:)
I just ordered the TD-17KV. My plan is to add a CY-15 Ride. I will live with the stock hi hat until my skills improve
Recently purchased the KV version and an extra 13 inch Roland dual zone ride. Call it a hybrid between the KV and KVX versions. Absolutely dying to start jamming. Thanks for this great content. Thumbs up, albeit 4 years late.
Thank you so much for your video, I was hesitant to get the TD 17 because I wasn't sure if it would be compatible with my older TD 12. Thank you very much for the clarification!
Great video man! Thank you for the review
iiQON thanks:)
thank you! KVX is on the way with the mail :D
Very cool! Enjoy the set:)
I love the comprehensiveness of this video. Thank You Very Much!
Best analysis of the TD-17 I have found. Good job!
Best video I've seen so far on the Roland series e-kits. Thank you!!
Great video! I think this time Roland did a good job with the TD-17KVX. Thanks for this review.
Astronaut2005 Agree...they listened to people.
This is the best review you can find about the Roland TD-17 series. Great work!
Oh damn, I've been looking at getting the TD-17 but I'd assumed it has positional sensing. Maybe I'll have to look into the TD-27...
The money gap talk doesnt really mean much because in Turkey each one is 2000 tl apart
Amazing review btw
Sorry for that, I could not cover all currencies:(
Vdrum Tips Thats not your fault dude. I jusr wanted to tell how absurd Turkey has become...10 years ago Tl was 2 dollars, now its 5 !
Btw thanks for the reply
"please do not use the microwave" was the last thing i was expecting to hear in this video hahaha. Good video cheers for the info
I love your review and your sense of humor is great!
Ahhh man I was starting to think I was all set on the KV model. Coming from only playing acoustic sets the upgrades at a nominal fee seem worth it vs paying more to upgrade later.
Sounds like getting classic big rock sounds requires some work and software on the user's part if you really want to try and dial in your sound more. Thanks for the most excellent review.
Thank you to VDrum Tips!!! It make me clearer about which model I need to buy. Thanks
8:59 he is playing Everlong - Foo Fighters 👍🏻
I have to say I really love this module it’s so versatile sample import is awesome I like this better than the td30 module I know it sounds crazy
Great review, answers a lot of questions that have not been discussed elsewhere.
Thanks for the review, very informative. I have one on order!
Great, enjoy the set!
this vid helped so much thank for your time in making it. im switching to electric and this was very informative
Other than sam ash massively screwing up my order twice and dealing with horrible customer service(first problem with them ever to be fair), I absolutely could not be any happier with my td17kvx. Hopefully they last me a very long time. Best e-snare and bass drum I've ever played.
Well, that is the distributor in this case. I think it will last for ages.:) Enjoy your set!
that was a surprisingly well balanced video between informative and entertaining. great job!
Best review of the TD-17 Series. Thank you for pointing out the differences. I enjoyed your sense of humor too .
This kit (KVX) is definitively the best bang for a buck! Strike is also really nice kit, but those cymbals are the weak part. Btw, what's that snare drum on 12:41? It looks like Black Panther or some Ludwig, but I could be wrong.
finally a new intro......
ill be honest im not a huge fan of the sounds. But if you are a fan of roland sounds its a great kit for the price. That VH10 hi hat? Amazing. Bought one for my strike and It was like the skys parted and a heavenly light cast upon it and a voice said "let there be hi- hat"
Yeah it is great, I heard that a lot of Strike users have one.
How good is the VH-10? I tried a used VH-11 with my kit (which came with the CY-5/FD-8 pedal combo) and I didn't like it. I might spring for the VH-10 brand new.
I have the vh10 and I have issues reliably opening and closing, when I choke the hit hats it didn’t open and close accurately, like when doing a dance beat. I’ve tried the collab tools from the module. Could it be my hi hat stand? It’s a cheap one.
Ive been using the pdx8 as a snare for a few months and have never hit the plastic ring. And I aint Neil Peart😂. Great review.
Brilliant video and very informative 👍
Excellent informative video. I think that reverse sticking you demonstrated is known as inverted traditional grip :-)
Great video I will be getting kvx version soon.
Exceptional review, good job
very great honest review and I enjoyed all the humor in it !
Thanks for this.
Great comaprison, actual explanation of the marketing terms. You always make good vids dude.
kiopl2003 Thanks! Yes, they confuse me sometimes too:)
thanks
It's a good thing I just went with the KVX. Good review!
Perfect video man... thank you!
Very clear review. Funny too :D
Word for word what I was going to say, so why say it again?
The best about the any of the TD17 modules is that we can program each velocity of the pads on logarithmic curves instead of linear or exponential. The sensation is like an accoustic. Im blaffled
Awesome review! Was hoping you made one!
Few questions:
1. How does the user sample layering compare to 2box’s implementation? I mean, are they comparable in features? Same idea?
2. How could we share our perfect sample layers with friends that also have a td-17. Is it some “bank file” that we can send over the Internet?
3. Did Roland give u a free td-17 or a discount ?
Thanks!!
Jim Cheseborough hi, I cannot say how it compares to 2box. You can share your files via dropbox. No, I did not get a discount nor do I own a td17:)
Ok. I found out the samples are "one-shot" not multi-layered like 2box.
This means the samples sound exactly the same (besides volume changes) regardless of how you hit the surface!!
This is inferior because 2box can have a totally different (let's say) snare sound at soft hits vs hard hits.
Jim Cheseborough I agree, the sample feature is better on the drumit3 in this case and it has also 4 audio outs. But the triggering is never as good as with the TD-17, especially in terms of hi-hat. I heard that people can’t get the VH-11 to work without an adapter.
I know this is a late viewing but that was a very detailed review and I learned a lot from it. Thanks for all the effort you put into making these vids! I like the size of the PDX-12 but it bothers me how much it wobbles around. Looks too flimsy for my liking. But that's just my personal view.
Thanks, better late than never:D It does wobble a bit, but some guys like that and buy even expensive mounting systems to have a wobbling pad (the RM Roland Rack). But you are right, it is a bit flimsy. You could place it on a stand though:)
Awesome video super helpful thanks!
What is the name of the song in the intro?
Very nice video man. Loved it!
I like that you mentioned details about the importing sounds. I think you mentioned 100 sounds max to import but do you know the limits on the MB or length?
Not sure about the length, but it is definitely restricted.
yep, great review, Alesis Strike Pro was a close contender but in the end, the build quality was just too shitty. Just one play of the TD-17 and the natural responsiveness wins you over. ...still not 100% sold on the snare sounds though but working on it and I use 'Addictive Drums' as a sound source. thanks for the helpful review. C
if the td17 kv version had the cy13r, it would make that kit so much more valuable. The kit in itself is very nice, only downsides are the cymbals. I can live with the cy8 crash, the cy5 hihat is okay since that kit is cheaper than the kvx, but the ride needs to be upgraded.
kunns123 a second hand cy13 costs 120$. That is not too expensive.
Cy-15 would be great with this kit.
I have a TD-9KX2 with the VH-11 HH and additional crash and cowbell. I am considering replacing the TD-9 module with the TD-17 module (leaving all current pads). Good idea or not? Thanks
Very good idea!
Man, what a fucking great review!!!! loved it.
The so far best Modul for the Price…💪🏼💪🏼
Thanks for the excellent review! Really helpful. Have you had a chance to try the Millenium MPS-850 from Thomann? Does it at all compare or would you not recommend it? Cheers!
Thanks for the video! It was extremely helpful!!
Need help!!! when hit assign - hit rim - set sound I want- then go back to kit - the head and the rim have the sound I assigned, not jus the rim. What am I doing wrong?????
Brill review. Thanks so much
Better option, Drum-Tec Jam series with the TD-17 module.
Side note if you are a metal player you don't need positional sensing on the snare so if you are looking at the td25 vs td17 and you play metal i would say go for the td17. Thats just my 2 cents.
demonocus metalocus I read a comment on another video saying that if you hit the pads hard on the td-17 then you have to readjust them after playing a couple hard hitting songs. Is this true?
@@darrelwheeler idk i play a converted acoustic aka A to E
Thanks very much for this, very helpful
Great ! Fantastic Review! Thank you. But what about the cable when I switch the Module from the TD-30 to the TD-17? Actually I use the transparent looking cable from drumtec for each pad. Are there the same numbers of pad inserts as on the TD-30?
You need to use the cable snake with the TD-17. No, the TD-17 has less pad inputs.
Why would you switch to the TD-17 from the TD-30? That would be a massive downgrade IMO.
I’ve bought a TD11 couple a months ago. I feel angry to be honest. Damn.... I’m pretty sure if I go now and buy a TD17 they will announce the new TD17,5 KVTDKHYR
The cycle for Roland to release a new set is usually 4-5 years. The Td-17 was overdue. But I understand your frustration. However, the TD-11 is not so bad after all.
Vdrum Tips hey bro... Tks for answering. Anyway, according to my skills a Simmons SDS5 would be more than enough LOL. Really appreciate your videos. Tks for helping us in so many ways.
Well done! As always, thanks for the info!
Thanks for an excellent overview of the new range. Can you tell me what is the purpose is of that inner plastic rim on the pads.. Its not found in the upper range tom pads. Thanks.
To make the pad bigger.
good td17 review ... one on the best so far ...I'm almost most ready to buy ..or maybe I'll wait till summer NAMM and see what the competition brings out to counter roland ...and they better do it soon and they better do it well or roland will sell so many of these there won't be any body looking for something else at this price point.
neonrust Maybe waiting makes sense, but I bet the competition is not ready to release something better. The competition was not expecting this. The thing is that almost all competitors do still struggle with the hi-hat, even the more expensive sets have this problem.
yeah...the new hi hat is going be hard to compete with ...of course td 17 won't really be in the supply line until end of june....july(maybe) and Namm will be at that same time so I won't pre order the td17 and wait see if there is another genie in the e-drum bottle.
Can you expand the TD17kv (not kvx) by adding another cymbal or drum head? I've been looking everywhere online and haven't seen anything as far as expansion is concerned
yes, you have one more input.
I have the TD17kv with and added cymbal, CY-13R as a ride using two connectors (rd1 and rd2), and my "old" CY-8 connected to the Crash2 supplementary input. Works much better with that ride. @@Vdrumtips1
I was looking at buying the td17kv as a secondary module to daisy chain to my td30 and sell off the pads that I wouldn't use, namely the pdx8 pads.
Average Jack Media I would not do this, rather sell your TD-30 for 1500$ and take the 600$ the TD-17 would cost and get a TD-50.
Vdrum Tips I'm Canadian, as of right now there's no way that's a good option. a TD50ks costs 6500 the KVS is 10G. even just the upgrade pack module, ride and snare costs more then what I paid for my entire Td30, $4300.
The td17kv is priced at $1500 and I was going to sell off everything but the hihat controller, cymbal pads and module. to get the cost down. Or If I wanted a smaller kit just keep the pads for travel.
Another great review! Can you trigger Logic Drummer with the TD17KVX? Thanks!
Great vid. Thx
Congratulations,
Is it possible to play the td17kv with the brushes?
Or is there a sound already programmed in the control unit that allows you to get the sound of the brushes playing with the sticks?
Thank you
Really appreciate the informative (and entertaining!) review. Thanks! :-)
Annie Panda Hi! I'm thinking about to buy the kvx type. Is it a good choice? Or can you suggest maybe a better buy? And I'm thinking about to buy a double pedal as well. Iron cobra HP900PWN or HP900RWN or Pearl Eliminator P-2052C? Ty for your answer.
You've shown kits in this video with many additional cymbals and drums. how can this be done if there is only 1 additional output?
Hi I currently own the TD ll
I am wondering if I am able to use the TD 17 module on My td 11 set... Thanks.
great vid! i really enjoyed it
I liked the snare and kvx hihat
I have just one question-for the extra equipment bit, don’t you also need a bass pedal?
Thank u man , very nice review
can you have two different audio imputs at the same time, one via Bluetooth and the other one with cable?
How is the customization of this kit? My Acoustics kit setup is one rack tom, where my number 2 Rack Tom is my ride is and I use 2 floor Toms. Is this kit able to be set up that way?
Sure, you can change the instruments accordingly.
I wish they had kept the full usb like in the TD-K11 not the midi only. Plugging the phone in threw that keeps it charged etc and more options also for the pc etc. They should have upgraded it to usb 3.1 :).
there is a USB port in the TD-17.
@@Vdrumtips1 yeah its only usb/midi not standard usb
@@Vdrumtips1 what I mean is the usb on the module is the b type (square and the other end on most of those cables is the A type ) not the A type & cell type on the other end that you can buy at the $ store or the one that came with the cell ph. :) The TD-11 had the A type. The B type is what the old day printers used :). It might work if I could get a Type B to mini B but not wanting to pay for a cable that I'd never have a use for if it doesn't work . They should have left the standard A period .
Great review. Thanks!
great review
How mind blowing! The TD-17 for $1,000. Such a great value! ... 5 years later it's $2,000.
Is this td17 much better than td11? I have td11kv with vh11 and thinking about change. Are sounds samples better?
if only they can ship the sets then that would be something.. they are slow to ship.. so keep that in mind. I have the TD17kv.. waiting for the kvx.. waiting and waiting.. on and on …
love the kv for now.. its so mint.. for the flow.. hurry up roland .. killing me..
Usually, it is not Roland that ships them, but a distributer.
I know I sell a very limited amount of them .. Actually I just started selling them. Well frankly I haven't sold any so..
I sell the digital pianos too but .. Great products .. Roland said today that I won't see kvx for another month, I ordered them 4 months ago.
Probably be longer too..they said they are in such high demand .. They can't fill the orders .. Because they are so back ordered . The kvx in particular..
Sucks for me,
Great video though ..
Can You trigger sounds from the Roland TD17 module using an external midi controller?