TIG Torches - Water Cooled Tig Torch vs Air Cooled
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In the market for a TIG Torch? maybe this video will help you decide which one is for you. There are all kinds of TIG torches available so in this video, I show a bunch of them. Air Cooled #9 tig torch, #17, and #26 Air cooled torches also. Along with the popular #20 style water cooled tig torch
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This is hands down the best, clearest, and comprehensive instructional video on TIG torches out there. Outstanding
Plz carry CK Worldwide's 17 aircooled version of the flexloc!! By the way I purchased a tig finger from you about 6 months ago specifically for the weld test they give where I work now... It, in my mind/opinion, is a must have for a welder in their toolboxes! The test the give is I believe the same as the UA-31b maybe... It's a 6G 3 inch schedule 40 aluminum pipe/tubing with a consumable insert and the 3 different supervisors stand there with u and watch you lay down every single pass...They couldn't believe how steady my hands were, how uniform/even and nice looking my beads were because all they've seen is ppl freehanding it and fail quite often, but I owe it to you for putting out an awesome product that can help ppl such as myself improve their skill and to help attain great paying jobs!! And when it comes down to test time it's time to show them what you've got and ur is a big part of where my skill level is today!! Thanks from Tennessee!!
May I you commend you for providing a very professional lecture and detailed demonstration on TIG torch welding techniques. I'm a retired old time welder and structural engineering technician, having started back in the mid 60's. These welding videos bring back memories of having completed jobs that left one with a feeling of satisfaction, having accomplished something of value with one's own hands and skills.
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Grant Walker. nice
I could not have explained my feelings any better. I'm not a professional but I love the process of welding and what comes out of it. I honestly can say that I got hooked on welding from watching Jody's videos and was giddy when I bought my Everlast welder.
I have a bic lighter that won't weld much. But it was an upgrade from the old matches.
Sir, you helped me understand so much it makes me want to learn more about this "welding ".thank you!
I am a wood worker.
Your a natural teacher - Good job, with your videos.
from: aspiring student
Just picked up a Everlast PowerTig 200DX as my first TIG welder. Your information was timely as this unit has a plug for a water cooler, it came from the factory with an air cooled torch. I'll upgrade as my skill set improves.
So far I've done TIG brazing of dissimilar metal, some 4140, and mild steel work with it. I have to give you much of the credit for what I've learned about TIG. Thanks Jody.
This guy is a legendary weldor! I love the information and instruction that he gives. Fantastic stuff!
very passionate man when it comes to welding, really appreciate your videos Jodey, Welder in training here, just got on 2G TIG last night, going to try an test out combo as soon as i can weld stainless, down here on the gulf coast in the refineries/chemical plants, keep the videos coming thanks
Thank you Weld Master Joda... Tig, Stick, Mig, Blow torch. This Kat does it all !!!
What amazes me most about your welds is the amazing consistency of the final product. I like to think my welds are almost as strong, but even with bracing and practice I rarely get such a consistent bead.
Good video. I have been Tig welding since 1979 but always learn something. I mostly weld 4130 aircraft weldments. My favorite torch is the water cooled weldcraft 20. I got over 20 years out of a Linde HW 20, I consider that pretty good since I used house water for about ten of those years. Current machine is a Miller syncrowave 351 but I really want a Dynasty 200 dx after trying one at a trade show. Thanks for the great videos. Kevin
Holy smoke; so much to know, to learn - thank goodness for videos such as yours. I am totally new to tig welding, deciding to go tig rather than oxy for mostly brazing purposes, of which I have had nothing but problems: much smoke, spatter and the blowing of holes in 3 mm mild steel plate, as I have tried and failed time and time again to bronze fill cutouts of a metal sculpture I have been working on for some time now. I have up and down the amps, paid particular attention to ridding the metal of surface impurities, cut the argon flow just to see if it would make a difference, but all my efforts have been in vain. My machine is a UNI-MIG WELDING ARC 170 DC INVERTER AIR COOLED using pure ARGON, so if you or any of your subscribers/viewers have any hints and tips it would be greatly appreciated. By the way, your welds are nothing short of works of art. Just an observation, dear sir, but true nonetheless. Best wishes.
With something that thick(4130) I was trained to preheat the part..gorgeous welds by the way..we just received 3 Miller dynasty 280 with coolers. Mine was plumbed into a central chiller..major pain which is why we bought the coolers. Oh yeah we also bought an air cooled Lincoln portable 110/220 tig which was mounted on a plant tricycle with two argon bottles..the extra bottle was for purging. Very handy unit for welding on Common nozzle assemblies.
Now I can see why This Old Tony keeps bringing you up in his videos..... You got some seriously impressive skill there w/ that weird walk you was doing on the steel in the beginning.
I'm looking forward to using the water cooled torch that came with my everlast welder. It was a pleasant surprise to find it in the box with the welder. I really wasn't expecting it.
My UniMig ACDC200 came with the big assed 26 that you showed at 18:15. It is SO heavy on the hoses and quite a pain to use.
I am looking to get a new torch for lighter work and this video was fantastic.
I really like when you give general summations like "This is the type/size/number I use for most jobs." For instance, the gas lens, torch size, tungsten size etc. It gives me a good reference point to use all the addt'l details with.
Also, brilliant move in becoming a product distributor. You've built such a bulletproof reputation that if you say something works better than what I'm using, I'm gonna believe you. High time you started making a few bucks on that :) Just don't abuse the trust please. Best wishes & thx for the videos.
sir thank you!I I IM 43 BEEN WELDING SINE 94, MY FATHER HAD HIS OWM BUSINESS! WE WELDER EVERYTHING ,FROM30,00GL.TANKS TO STAINLESS MANIFOLDS.ONLY THING ALLY NO ALUMINUM.I ONLY SAW IT 2,all those years.I'm very good with stick,excellent at tig .love your kids man!!!
One of your best videos to date! Thank you for some much needed information!!
An excellent presentation Jody, you answered a number of questions I didn't even know that I had. When eventually I can afford to set a TIG machine beside my stick welder I am sure I will have a much better idea now as to what features and capabilities will best suit my TIG needs.
I'm sold on getting a water cooled torch for my everlast tig welder. I like the fact the torch is smaller.
Great job!!! It is really hard to locate all the variants out there, and yes, I know there is many more options out there, but this one really helps out allot, Thank you
I just started welding with a syncrowave 300 the size of a small refrigerator with a water cooler. No peddle just learning the old fashion way.
"Water cooled machines" Some of those old time TIG machines, like 330's, passed the water through the machine with solenoids and the whole deal. Great videos. S/F....Ken M
Now that I know you have a store I will be buying all my torches from you in the future; I have a Dynasty 200DX
Nice video, Judy. You asked about torches and welders we are using. I have water-cooled CK flex-loc 230 amp torch with a #7 gas lens and a 10 year old Lincoln Precision Tig 225. If I can find the money I just might get an Inverter, but I had a bad experience a cheap Everlast a few years ago so I will probably look for a used Dynasty.
Jody I have to ask about the way you hold a torch. you hold it like you are holding a hammer most of the time. sometimes you hold it like a pencil.
is there a science to the way a torch should be held or is it just a matter of comfort and how to get in where you can fit in???
thanks, great video
you answered every queston i could think of
Well presented information. All the classes I've taken and jobs worked have been with a 20 style water cooled. Want to see more of the weld tech I like that the whole head comes off like that.
Man you make it look so easy :-)
very good videos. I do not understand English very well but still I learned a lot. is difficult to find good videos on welding Spanish. and hopefully one day make videos in Spanish and it would be very useful for Spanish speakers. greetings from mexico.
excellent as always, Jody! -DH
Hello, I am wondering what tig welding machine is best for its value?
Nice video. I have a kemppy inverter 220 with wc 20 style torch. Also bought the ck flex loc with the super flex hoses... red and blue . Its ausome but i found that with the help of the tig finger a simple nuber 20 tourch could do almost every thing i need. I take the ck out every 2_3 months. Looking forward for the most needed tig cups review. Thanks from israel. Eran
Always an excellent presentation!
Thanks, Jodi! rc
Awesome video to provide perspective on TIG torches. Do you have a video talking about TIG torch cups? I can't seem to find any. Thanks!
The weld Tec I-head seems pretty cool depending on the price.
Great informational video as always
I’m curious how the rv antifreeze is working and any one else is using this stuff. It’s close to 40 bucks for actual tig coolant and here at our local Walmart in the spring time rv antifreeze is 1 dollar a gallon so if it works this would be a no brainer lol. Can anyone get back to me with any info or experience they’ve had with RV antifreeze in a TIG cooler
Thank you Jody for all your videos great stuff
Gonna switch and use my water cooled torch with my everlast tig welder from now on.
love the long videos
weldingtipsandtricks Hello I have been watching all of your videos and am a big fan. I have a Lincoln Square wave Tig 175 and was doing a small repair job on a steel bracket this weekend for a friend. I was having issues with the torch lighting. It kept wanting to light from up inside the torch from the gas lens. Torch is a Lincoln PTA-17. I ground and tried new tungsten, double checked my ground, cleaned my piece and to no avail.
Any suggestions? Thanks!
Jody be hittin the gym right before a video tryin to get a pump !!!!
This is exactly what I needed to know. Thanks, Jody!
Personally I stick to using a big touch start 26 with a valve on it for everything. Does everything it needs to do and maybe smaller torches are comfortable true but I can make large and small sound as a pound welds with mine.
Hey Jody, Great video mate! I have never seen the 'weldtech roto head" before and I think it would be a perfect solution to some of my applications! and also, I know it is not the actual word origin (or very relevant to tig welding), but I'm from Australia and the word 'stubby' refers to a beer bottle shape! Just google: 'VB stubby' and I'm sure you will see the resemblance!!
You talk a lot about the stubby gas lenses, I don't know if you know I am sure you do but you should mention how you can use the standard 9,20 series nozzle with a 17,26,18 if you buy a collet body adaptor. You don't have the gas lens but I like them better for aluminum especially higher amps because aluminum does not need as good gas coverage it cost quite a bit less then the gas lenses and it holds up better with higher amps it does not replace the gas lens for things like stainless but it is most definantly a replacement for the standard 17,26,18 consumables.
Excellent information, thanks for sharing.
I have a WP17 and WP26 (actually ESAB branded.) I love the 17. The 26 cable is massive and stiff. So, I avoid the 26 unless I need it.
You might mention the difference in cable size and weight in the next vid.
There are a few videos out there that go over various tig torches, size and amperage capability. I know everlast has one on their site and there are a few others you should be able to find with a quick search.
i think im gona start back up with the stubby 17 sounds like what i need thanks for all the info.
you always have the best vids Kudos
dear jody... i love the one i got, she isn`t the thinnest, or the coolest (heat and/or beauty) but she`s the one i got, i love her, i`m nothing without her and she`s nothing without me, sometimes she burns me sometimes not i haven`t figured why, can`t do a really hot pass with her but you know she gets the job done, i think she can say the same about me. oh by the way i have a chinese 17. i think if i could afford another i would go for a flex head or a swivel head, that would come in handy welding the miserable jobs that come to my shop door :D. thanks for the videos. cheers. pete.
ps i would rather spend on a tig finger than a torch
great old miller dial arc ,
Thanks for that helpful video, Jody!
How can I convert my water cooler wp-20 tig torch to hold the bigger air cooled cups so that I can walk the cup in better conditions ? I run a Miller dynasty water
I use a Farmal water pump going through a heater core from a mini van going through a mini fridge ?
Tremendous films, I really appreciate your time and all the great information. Just subbed. Thanks
Weldcraft has renamed all of there torches to a much simpler format now. Duty cycle might be good to bring up also!
Great information, learnt lots as usual.Thank you.
Thanks for keeping it real.
Do you have any videos on water cooled 50’ leads, im curious to what’s available?
Would a water cooled torch work on a air-cooled welder?
Thank-you a lot, excellent information.
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Do you have any experience with Kemppi torches?
Jody, should water not flow to the torch head first then back down the power cable?
***** yep, you are correct...water should flow to torch head first then back thru power cable. got ahead of myself
I have an old Miller Dialarc HF. I just burned up the torch. The torch was very old. I would like to buy a new torch with a hand control option. I would also like to use the Furick 20 cup you recommend. I am welding .125 thick roll cage the majority of the time. Some aluminum welding. What torch would you recommend and do you have them in your store?
Thank-you. excellent information.
That orange stubby weldtech looks bad ass
This video wiĺl be very helpfull to all,nice video.
I have the Miller CST 280. Which torch will work better? What do you recommend water or air cooled?
great video. loved the "evo manifold" reference lol. I would love to get one of those i head roto torches.
hey Jody I'm in welding school and you helped me out a bunch thanks.
I would like to know where can I buy ghetto weld craft stubby torch been all over the net and can't find one and I really need one thanks
What's the difference between a CK20 and a CK200 torch?
Jody, I have Miller 250 syncrowave, with a a/c torch,, I would like a water cooled torch, !your thoughts?,, Merry Christmas !,, Love my Tig finger!
I have a Lincoln precision tig 185. What do you recommend?
cool video helped alot thanks Jody
I dontreallycare for it..like at all.. lol I lost it
Got a Miller dialarc HF 310a machine and a Miller Radiatir-1 cooler, I want a CK torch with a 25' reach, found one on eBay for $160, comes with the ck20 torch and another setup with a ck200 torch, which one should I get?
Thank you for another great video. I was wondering if you could help me I am looking for a tig welder. I have done much in the automotive trade due to health issues but have been doing better and looking to get some work done on some of my projects. I will be doing car and truck repair and mods mainly with a few other projects mixed in.I have about $2500 to spend I know their are a lot of cheap welders I could buy but I would sooner spend a little more and get one that will last and do anything I may want to do. And anything besides consumables that I should look to also buy.
Well...,,after getting all reved up to get a nice ck 17 torch and stubby kit to replace the horrible 26 torch for my CIG weldskill AC/DC 200 welder I find you don’t ship to Australia. . ☹️☹️☹️
Your vids are great
Hey Jody I just bought a everlast power tig 250ex with a water cooler. I'm just using the torch that come with it but would like a better one. I don't weld anything thicker than 1/4 inch steel and 1/8 aluminum. Which one would you recommend that would work with both metals. I would like one that flexed I think lol please help me out and I will order one from ya lol
You are a consummate bad ass and fountain of welding knowledge. Thank you! I need a better torch for my Everlast 210 EXT. That CK 26 slim line looks pretty good. Any other recommendations for a water-cooled torch? I'm just a hobbyist, but do weld stainless, aluminum, and mild steel. Rarely go past 160 amps, but I do like to have 200 amp capability for short runs. Thanks!
I know this is an older video and I wanted to ask you and anyone else who answers.
How often do you prefer 1/8" tungstens vs 3/32" ?
I feel like these lengthy hot welds at lower amps are roasting the tungsten too much even with extra gas coverage. Would upping the tungsten size save the tungstens life?????
1/8” is my normal size anymore. I’ve done 1/2” to pontoons and love the 1/8” That’s just me tho.
Does the cup size vary with the size steel you're welding on such as 1/16 steel?
Great video, as always. Can you suggest a source for the dual argon flow meters?
i have an MILLER stl 161. what tig torch do you recommend? i do stainless steel. I would like a torch and i was thinking of putting a furick 17 on it.
Using a CK17 and needing consumables……do the pieces have to be made to fit a ck17 torch only or is it standardized thread pitch, depth, diameter, ect? Does any brand work as long as its made to fit a 17 style torch?
With only very few rare exceptions, yes.
Sir I want to know that if I want to do almuniam welding use TIG what should need to change in TIG torch
I am running a miller trailblazer 325.
Hello Jody, I am using a Lincoln square 200 TIG and running it till that torch is red hot. Would appreciate some advice on a water cooled torch system from you sir.
Liked the video a lot! Thanks.
I have a standard air cooled torch on my v-205 and I want to upgrade it to water cooled. I'm building my own chiller pump so all I need now is a water cooled torch but the prices are a bit ridiculous. Got any samples you don't need anymore? :D
Chris Bryan What did you/are you using to make your cooler? I want a Dynasty, but think I may get the Rebel 235ic and get a nice torch from Jody and build a cooler as well.
I'm getting ready to drop my Dime and get a Nice Rig. This is Great information. Long time Subscriber. I will definitely go to your web site.
Hey Jody, great video pal... My birthday is around the corner and I want to treat myself to a tig torch upgrade! My machine is gas cooled only, and I'm having difficulty choosing between the WeldTec 'Roto Head' torch and the WeldTec 'Stubby' torch. I am predominantly concerned with welding 19 to 21 guage sheet steel on car bodies, using precisely mated butt welds. I need a torch that is easy to hold in all angles, and I am operating at very low amperage ranges of 40 or less, using pulse to help prevent blow through. Use of a foot pedal is not really an option so a remote switch will need to be used.
I have a very unwieldy and cumbersome, Euro style 26 torch for more heavy duty work.
I was wondering which of the two torches would you go for?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Adam, from the UK.
Hi Jody, first of all I love your videos.
I recently bought a ck 24 tig torch that is water colled. It seems that i have problems with my shielding gas, as no matter what gas flow i set on my machine weld always ends up black(stainlees steel). When welding aluminum, I just can't get a clean puddle. I would be very grateful if you could help me. Sorry for bat english.
Regards, Simon
Simon Kvas. Welding stainless can be tough. Get yourself a gas lens kit. Make sure that you have argon running on the backside of the stainless that you are welding. Run a lower amperage. Keep the tungsten as close to the stainless as you can without touching it. If you do these things, your stainless welds will GREATLY improve.
great video
Good stuff~ Thanks brother!
I was on your site looking to see if the clear stubby lens kit is available for the wp26?
great source of information for me....
awesome video so much info
very nice system