When I left the philippines in september last year, I got the exit clearance certificate at Manila Airport. I was there 3,5 hours early. It took so long, that I almost missed my flight. I won't do it at the airport ever again.
💯 agree w you. This is a very hard country to follow the rules in. Ive left the Philippines a few times before my 6 months was up to avoid this issue. But by doing that i created another issue when it comes to my drivers license and maybe even a bank account Everyone tries to help by suggesting what you should do but like you said. Just because it worked for them dont mean it will work for you! Every office seems to make up their own rules. And those rules are subject to change on a day to day basis. Very frustrating. I feel your pain! It makes planning anything very difficult
Indeed mate, everything you try and do here is a lottery. On the whole I've been lucky with everything I've tried to do here but that's what worries me about this, my Luck's gotta run out at some stage. See you next week mate 👍
I feel your pain. What me and my wife from Dumaguete have had to go through for her to emigrate to my house here in the UK was nuts and that was after a successful trip here on a tourist visa just 4 months earlier. One thing is for sure they don’t make it easy for them to leave. It was expensive but also the paperwork was crazy. I lost count of the trips back and fourth to Cebu sorting all of this out. I’m only speaking for her requirements, I’ve never stayed there long enough to need clearance myself but that doesn’t sound much better. Good luck. 🤞
@Philippines-Anthony-Sandra Then u shouldn't have gotten a flippina, instead u should've gotten local in your country. You Guys complain about stuff, like little women.
I know exactly what you mean, I am in Norwich city, when the Chinese are Japanese or Malaysia people want a tourist visa to VISIT the UK it is 3 small forms and never rejected, only the Philippines and North Korea people are made to jump more fences than the grand national, ultra awkward when I challenge this I just got BLANKED by British authorities….. basically they don’t like Filipinos in the UK….
Yeah. Agree. The exit clearance process is cumbersome and nerve-racking. Or at least it was for me. Took three trips to the local BI and a week to get it. Come and go as you please with the SRRV.
Yes, that's the #1 reason I will get my SRRV when I go back to the Philippines. Expats tell me not to do it because if I die or some other reason, you'll never get that money back. I'm either going to take my changes with the bank deposit or movie to Thailand and get a retirement visa there. Or Cambodia. I do have permanent residency in Mexico but that's my last resort. What's nice about Mexico PR is I can come and go as I please, don't have to spend a minimum time there, nor pay anymore annual fees or renew like in Thailand.
@@seans7228 Ayala Circuit Mall BI in Makati. First trip only to be informed of all the copies and pictures they wanted for the process. None of this was needed for extensions done there previously. Second trip submitted everything they wanted. Third trip to pick up the ECC and my passport. I only paid P500 though for the ECC and I didn't need to pay any tourist tax at the airport. This was late-2023 timeframe. I had been in the Philippines over a year continuously at the time.
hope all works out OK, I am like you like everything sorted before flying.Agree so much conflicting advice out there fingers crossed all goes well for you and Ellen xx Take care Jim and Nora x
I’ve completely decided not to retire there; you need clear cut rules not one side saying something different than the other, what a headache. No thanks.
It's true that the bureaucracy can drive you nuts but the Philippines has got a lot going for it. Overall, the positives out weigh the negatives for me, that's why I'm still here. 👍
The "Exit Clearance" is the reason why we never go beyond the 6 months. At 5.5 months we fly out for the weekend then comeback. As cheap as flights are, not really a big deal. I really dislike the idea not being able to hop on a flight when ever I want.
I left after 11 months in the Philippines, so in my case I did the exit clearance at Manila airport. I actually tried to get it at my local BI office and they said they wouldn't do it, and that I had to do it at the Manila airport, third floor. Cost me 500php. No exit tax paid. From what I understand ,if you are here 12 months and longer the exit clearance is a more detailed background check. Then when going thru the immigration line, filipinos go in one lane, foreigners in another lane. My fiance got questioned quite extensively about where we were going, who is she going with, wanted to see pictures on her phone, social media, wanted to see me with her family and then proceeded to ask who was who in that picture. Then they told her to call me, take a picture of my passport main page and send it to her. The immigration officer then can see indeed it was me and let her go through. Be prepared.
Gday China. I'm pretty sure they don't process the exit clearance in Dumaguette. I heard they only do them in Manila or Cebu. Hopefully I'm wrong mate. I'm leaving in April for my scans etc. I've spoken to JRC here in Cebu, they told me passport, 2 photos and flight details and they will do it for 3500 pesos. Maybe talk to JRC about it mate. Good luck china.
Know exactly what you're talking about mate. My wife and I have been backwards & forwards to the Philippines now for the last 27 years and nothing seems to change or improve for the better. Everything is very backwards & unprogressive and when something seems to working well they have to change it to confuse everyone. The staff that have to enforce these new rules or laws have absolutely no idea on what they are doing. No different to any other business over there be it the local hardware, the baker, the 7/11 or the local council. Nobody knows anything about what they are doing. Welcome to the Philippines. We are lucky that most times we enter the Philippines we avail of the Balikbayan Privilege. No fees, no paperwork, no exit clearance and no return or onward ticket. We built a house over there and planned to spend my retirement years there but could only last 8 months. Had to get back to some real sanity and real food in Australia. Just visitors now. Anyway liked your video Take care.
that landlord threat is rubbish - they say that sort of thing to foreigners when ever they are upset. Unless you've done something illegal, nothing to worry about
Mate. I'm in the same boat. You can go to a visa service opposite the Immigration bureau, 4th floor Gmall Cebu City and get clearance the same day. You need to show them your flight ticket though.
Sadly, you can't get that in Dumaguete but I don't think I would want to leave it to the same day. I want to try and get it at least a few days in advance because it gives you some time to sort it out if there is an issue 👍
You can get one at the 24hr office at the airport in Manila. Last year I attempted to leave and at Immigration they said I needed the form your talking about so I jumped in a cab to the other terminal and got one. Took about an hour and I made my flight......phew.
Wadd up Fam! You seriously have to hit up Thailand on April 13, 14, and 15 for the Thai, Lao, and Cambodian New Year! It’s gonna be epic, don’t miss it! 🎉🎉❤ 🇹🇭 🇱🇦 🇰🇭
To ensure you can leave the Philippines without issues, you can perform several checks with the Bureau of Immigration (BI): 1. Derogatory Record Verification: Request a check at the BI's Clearance and Certification Section to confirm if there are any derogatory records against you. Present your passport and pay the applicable fees[1]. 2. Hold Departure Order (HDO) Check: Verify if there's an HDO against you, which prevents departure due to pending criminal cases[1]. 3. Watchlist Order (WLO) Verification: Ensure you're not on any immigration watchlist that could restrict your travel[3]. 4. Immigration Lookout Bulletin Order (ILBO) Check: Confirm you're not subject to an ILBO, which requires additional scrutiny before departure[1]. 5. Exit Clearance Certificate (ECC) Requirement: Determine if you need an ECC, especially if you've stayed in the Philippines for over six months on a temporary visa[3]. 6. Visa Status Verification: Confirm your visa status is current and valid for departure[1]. 7. Travel Ban Check: Verify you're not subject to any country-specific travel bans or restrictions[5]. 8. Outstanding Obligations: Ensure you have no unpaid fines or pending obligations with the BI[3]. To conduct these checks: - Visit the BI office or their official website for information. - Consult with the Clearance and Certification Section of the BI. - Review your passport stamps and visa documentation. - If uncertain, seek legal advice from an immigration lawyer. Remember, requirements may vary based on your citizenship status, length of stay, and purpose of visit. It's advisable to conduct these checks well in advance of your planned departure date.
Well, this list just illustrate why I do not want to overstay the 6 month "grace-time" in PH. Jumping trough all these hoops and loops are not worth the time. That is, if you value your time. Better buy the tickets and reset the clock by spending a weekend visiting an other country..
@@nedimyra i reckon you're only partly correct. 6 months or more, ECC is a requirement BUT the rest can apply at anytime the same as any other country if one behaves badly and violate the law. the thing is, all of them are essentially almost the same though just for slightly different reasons.
Regarding a lady getting approval to leave The Philippines and not be 'off boarded' as they call it, there is a type they look for. If your lady is young and pretty, obviously a province girl (her demeanour and the way she is dressed) she will most likely attract their attention. If your lady is more mature, age wise, dressed well and has a few passport stamps out of the country, has confidence, she will most likely get through unhindered - just my experience.
This is why the island of bali got 5% more foreign tourists last year than the entire philippines! One island 😂 And many of those foreign tourists were filam filcan visiting their families
Being far too cynical... if people can leave easily, they lose their prison release fees, if they lose LDRs to people trafficking, they lose all control. The caring Philippines gov only gets the hard currency remittances, which prop up the whole cXXXXpt economy, if their citizens get a job as a relatively well paid OFW, or snag a relatively well-to-do foreigner.
You probably know but don't go anywhere besides the south in March because of the smoke. It's already getting pretty hazy up north and by late March it's going to be hellfire.
Yeah, the plan is to stay south, BKK and Pattaya but having seen how bad the air quality has been in BKK recently I'm having second thoughts. Might be better to put it back to May 👍
You are completely 100% correct!!! So many times i get all sorts of different information and things work one way one time and a different way the next. And don't get me started with information online its absolutely useless I had schedules online saying a ferry was once a week and when I went to the port it was several times a day????
Hey Simon, have you heard of Jennifer Terri? She's a pinay vlogger who talks about all this stuff, she may have accurate info..good video...btw, happy to see a window in background now breaking up the white abyss😂👌
Simon Many thx. Man o man , why the heck do people make life so B difficult...lol... It's not without reason that I often say that I was born anti establishment.... But ⅓ being refused permission to leave the country. Paul McGill did a video on his trip with his wife to Thailand, that you may have seen... Either way your going about it flexibly. But it's still a true pain.... Fingers crossed Cheers. Glenn
LOL Be careful when I left Bacolod three years back I had to get my BI clearance from Iloilo even having a BI office in Bacolod. Make sure where you need to get it from the BI office you normally renew
In the U.S. Passport, in small print, it reads, what to do and where to go. In reguards to different conditions and circumstances on how and what You can and cannot do or bring. I have no idea if other countries passports have this same information in it?
I might use an agent, I'm going speak to my local BI (Dumaguete) when I do my visa renewal in the next couple of weeks, see what they say but 100% I'm not leaving it until I get to the airport 👍
oh my God sounds so risky living in the Philippines. I don't know how you men can stand all the disadvantages of it. it's scary. you can go to jail. you can be refused to leave etc etc etc. seems to never end all the complications
Rules and regulations are VERY inconsistent in the Philippines. What works for 1 person, 9/10 times won't work for others. Frustrating to say the least.
I don't have to but Elen will because immigration need to be satisfied that her purpose of travel is for a holiday and that she intends to return. That she can finance herself while she is out of the country, afford accomodation etc the argument being that it's to prevent people trafficking.
If you go as a couple it is a good idea to take any paperwork that has both your names on it. elect, cable etc. You may be separated at the airport and question about each other. Good luck and I wish you a safe trip and plenty of tables of great food.
Yes, it is possible for a landlord in the Philippines to seek a Hold Departure Order (HDO) on a foreigner, but the process is not straightforward and requires specific legal grounds. An HDO can be issued in the following circumstances: 1. Pending criminal cases: If the foreigner is facing criminal charges, an HDO may be issued to prevent them from leaving the country[1][2]. 2. Civil matters: In some cases, HDOs can be used for civil matters, though this is less common[1]. 3. Precautionary Hold Departure Order (PHDO): This can be issued ex-parte for crimes where the minimum penalty is at least six years and one day, or when the offender is a foreigner regardless of the imposable penalty[5]. For a landlord to obtain an HDO against a foreigner, they would need to: 1. File a formal complaint in court, typically for a criminal offense related to the tenancy[1]. 2. Provide evidence of the foreigner's intent to leave the country or proof that their departure would harm the landlord's ability to pursue justice[1]. 3. Request the court to issue an HDO along with the complaint[1]. It's important to note that the issuance of an HDO is at the discretion of the court and requires strong justification. Mere civil disputes or unpaid rent may not be sufficient grounds for an HDO. The court must determine that probable cause exists and there is a high probability that the foreigner will depart from the Philippines to evade arrest and prosecution[3].
179 days ok 180 days have to check your background etc You could commit a crime on first day of arriving Just like the return ticket requirement If you overstay...by the time they catch you that return ticket has long expired Ridiculous Also the acr id card requirement after 59 days What other country requires tourists to get an id card ? 😂
@@MrHatem0000 yep Every agency in philippines has budget requirements BI one of few agencies that meets its Goal every year They only enforce the law when it suits them or when it benefits them .... Or when foreigners involved
i share your frustrations it really is a lottery and depends on the persons mood, forget the laws and terms printed means nothing its about who you deal with and their mood on that day with so many things
You go to Bureau of Immigration (You are in Duma AFAIK so should not be a problem), 3 weeks before you fly out and they should give it to you same day (I got it in less than 20 minutes every time). I have done it like 4 times. You could do it in Airport but I'd rather not add another stress-factor for airport because you don't know the queues etc. Online can be done only if you have 13A visa. I don't get what's the big deal is to be honest 😂
I was in the Philippines at Christmas took my gf to Thailand for a week she has never been out of the Philippines before and has no job or savings we left from Manila airport no problems at all , the only question immigration asked her was did i support her that was it.
I took my gf 2x the first time zero issues. The second time they wouldn't let her leave without hotel bookings for the whole month, return tickets, held her in there 2 hours and wouldn't let her communicate with me to get the info they were requesting. We've been together 8 years with a kid at that time. They treated us like dirt.
You're not trapped, you just prefer to make a TH-cam video instead of going to get your ECC, which we all do without any problems before leaving the Philippines
😊I honestly believe now that even the BOI do not know the current rules and regulations. They have confused themselves, let alone the Foreigners. Personally I am on an SRRV so no issues for me and my wife. Good video though which highlights the problem.
@ Rules are very clear, and have been the same for many years now. If you have been in the Philippines for over 6 months, you need to get an ECC before leaving. I have been here for 20 years
The Chinese and Japanese etc tourists come straight into the UK 2 forms to fill out and no one is rejected, total opposite to the Philippines….one could say it borders on RACISM.
Simon Many thx. Man o man , why the heck do people make life so B difficult...lol... It's not without reason that I often say that I was born anti establishment.... But ⅓ being refused permission to leave the country. Paul McGill did a video on his trip with his wife to Thailand, that you may have seen... Either way your going about it flexibly. But it's still a true pain.... Fingers crossed Cheers Glenn
Hi Glenn, yeah I think I did see Paul's video but I think it makes a BIG difference when you're married. I've never heard of anyone having an issue when it's a wife 👍
British Embassy told me I had to go to the main Immigration office in Manila to get permission to leave. I am in Cebu and plan to fly from there so I will try Immigration there b4 I waste money and time travelling to Manila.
Went to Manila to do few jobs, one was get a 6 months visa extension. You needed 10 days left on your existing 1/2 month visa. All the details on the governmental website are never updated and when ya ring they are utterly incompetent. I’m going to use a visa service in future.
"I'm going to go on a bit of a rant." Haha, every episode is a bit of a rant. As far as the exit clearance, it's typical Philippines to make it unclear, confusing, and difficult. The BI website says you have to renew visitor visa extension every 6 months (I just checked seconds ago) but we all know that was changed and it's every 59 days. Meanwhile, you could go to jail for not renewing at day 59. With the example of the guy that was reported to immigration for not paying the difference to the landlord, now that he's paid her unless she (the landlord) calls immigration to cancel her complaint I'm afraid he's still not going to be able to get out of the country. I'm afraid that locals and expats that you may have disagreements with will call immigration to get money from you or just to jerk your chain. The question is, how to you right the ship after you're denied exist at the airport? All this makes me wary on coming back to the Philippines even with an SRRV you will still need clearance.
With SRRV you are always exempted of exit clearance and also travel tax (only if you stayed less than one year in the Philippines for the travel tax exemption)
@ Yes thanks Simon and I hope you and your lady can enjoy your holiday. Ridiculous there isn’t any clear cut uniform rules about this. That’s why it’s falling as a travel destination which is a pity as it’s a beautiful country but as usual people making things too complicated
@@SpeakingofAsia I’m ok up to a point but am fussy when important things need doing and this would just drive me nuts. Slow service in restaurants etc I can deal with but as you do rightly say, supposing you had to fly out in an emergency; it should be as straightforward as getting the exit clearance at the airport as they should have all your details on computer. I hope they improve on this; on the other hand though, you are right it is a beautiful place out there. Keep us posted in your next video
I think the idea is that the people traffickers are waiting for her at the other end. She's been promised a dream job (which is a scam) and they've told her to tell immagration it's a holiday. Well, that seems to be the theory anyway mate.
@@SpeakingofAsia yeah, rather authoritarian though i reckon. the gov should do a better job educating its populace through the education sys rather than impose such measures. where else in the world does this?
Sounds to me like if I come to the Philippines ever instead of living in a remote island,, ore mountain getaway. I'll have to go live down in the dam Rat Race next to the office where you can get all the s*** done that needs to be done in the Philippines😢!! so you don't have to spend all the time and money traveling back and forth across the Philippines to get to where you have to do all this paperwork!. and deal with the the Romper Room b ull shit
I've done it a few times before and completely agree that it's a simple process and the requirements are on the BI website. They have made it even easier in the past couple years since more field offices are able to process the ECC now.
Yes, I've got something to hide, it's a big secret I don't want anyone to know about it so I thought the best way to keep it quiet would be to make a video about it 😂😂
the reason for immigration clearance is to make sure that you have not committed any crime or wanted by the police in the Philippines all you have to do is go to the BI office
The only reason for exit clearance certificate just to take your money you have to pay fee 3500 to 6000 peso there automatically system all airport in the world to find out if you wanted or not with no fee only philippines immigration take your money
Is your partner a Filipina ? Then she doesn't need anything except E travel to travel to Thailand. All those documents you was referring to isn't required because she's with you, the only thing they might require is a return ticket. And you need E Travel to return.
I have been living in the Philippines for twenty years, and it's always like that, let me tell you when you get back to UK Starmer will probably lock you up if you can't speak Arabic 😂😂😂😂😂😂
A Hold Departure Order (HDO) can be imposed on a foreigner in the Philippines under the following circumstances: 1. Pending Criminal Cases: - An HDO may be issued if the foreigner is charged with a crime punishable by at least six years and one day of imprisonment[1][3]. - The court must determine that there is probable cause and a high probability that the foreigner will attempt to leave the country to evade prosecution[7]. 2. National Security or Public Interest: - In rare cases, an HDO may be initiated if authorities believe the foreigner's departure poses a threat to public safety, health, or national security[2]. 3. Violation of Court Conditions: - For foreigners out on bail, an HDO may be issued if they violate conditions set by the court[2]. The process for imposing an HDO on a foreigner involves: 1. Application: - The prosecutor or complainant files an application for an HDO with the appropriate Regional Trial Court (RTC)[4]. - In cases involving the National Bureau of Investigation, applications can be filed in specific city courts regardless of where the alleged crime was committed[6]. 2. Court Evaluation: - The judge examines the application, including sworn statements and evidence[7]. - The court must be satisfied that there is a compelling reason to restrict the foreigner's ability to leave the country[1]. 3. Issuance: - If approved, the court issues the HDO, directing the Bureau of Immigration to prevent the foreigner's departure[5]. 4. Implementation: - The Bureau of Immigration enforces the HDO by including the foreigner in their Hold Departure List[5]. It's important to note that: - A Precautionary Hold Departure Order (PHDO) can be issued even before formal criminal charges are filed, typically during preliminary investigations[2]. - The Department of Justice's power to issue HDOs has been limited by Supreme Court rulings, emphasizing that this power generally lies with the courts[2]. - Foreigners subject to an HDO have legal remedies, including filing motions to lift the order or contesting its issuance[1]. An HDO remains in effect until lifted by the court, which may occur upon acquittal, dismissal of the case, or when the court deems it appropriate to remove the travel restrictions[1].
I was leaving the Philippines in December and had been in the Philippines for more than 6 months, but less than a year. I went to the BOI about 2 weeks before I was leaving to make sure I could do the exit clearance at the airport. I was told that I would have to go to Cebu 3-4 days ahead of my flight to get the exit clearance. They said I could alternatively use an agency to get the exit clearance. I did that and it worked. I received the clearance about 5 days before I was leaving.
@SpeakingofAsia Okay. I don't have any relevant information then other than to say I totally get what you're saying about the rules being applied arbitrarily. 😆 If i were you I'd go to Cebu and use the agent another person mentioned, I think you misunderstood what he said. Or I am... He said get the clearance same day, meaning same day you go there not the day of travel. You would have it in advance then and avoid these problems in Manila unless you're flying from Cebu. Best of luck, let us know how it worked out even though it may not be the same the following day. 😅
All that on line stuff is half fake i been here back n forth 5 to 6 months each yeat if u stay more than 6 months u need the clearance paper get 7 days before u go near 1000 piso
When I left the philippines in september last year, I got the exit clearance certificate at Manila Airport. I was there 3,5 hours early. It took so long, that I almost missed my flight. I won't do it at the airport ever again.
That's exactly what I'm worried about 👍
💯 agree w you. This is a very hard country to follow the rules in. Ive left the Philippines a few times before my 6 months was up to avoid this issue. But by doing that i created another issue when it comes to my drivers license and maybe even a bank account
Everyone tries to help by suggesting what you should do but like you said. Just because it worked for them dont mean it will work for you! Every office seems to make up their own rules. And those rules are subject to change on a day to day basis. Very frustrating. I feel your pain! It makes planning anything very difficult
Indeed mate, everything you try and do here is a lottery. On the whole I've been lucky with everything I've tried to do here but that's what worries me about this, my Luck's gotta run out at some stage. See you next week mate 👍
@SpeakingofAsia If it's something that someone can be bribed for, it usually works well.
Dishonesty is the only functional option.
It seems like they’re waiting something always whenever you need to process something. Very annoying.
100% true.
I feel your pain. What me and my wife from Dumaguete have had to go through for her to emigrate to my house here in the UK was nuts and that was after a successful trip here on a tourist visa just 4 months earlier.
One thing is for sure they don’t make it easy for them to leave. It was expensive but also the paperwork was crazy.
I lost count of the trips back and fourth to Cebu sorting all of this out.
I’m only speaking for her requirements, I’ve never stayed there long enough to need clearance myself but that doesn’t sound much better.
Good luck. 🤞
I can only imagine what you went through mate, glad it got sorted in the end 👍
@Philippines-Anthony-Sandra Then u shouldn't have gotten a flippina, instead u should've gotten local in your country.
You Guys complain about stuff, like little women.
Why are you complaining jumping in the middle of somebody else's subject that they're dealing with question mark @red-hat-mike
@@markeverson5849 Because @red-hat-mike is desperate for attention of any kind. Pretty pathetic really
I know exactly what you mean, I am in Norwich city, when the Chinese are Japanese or Malaysia people want a tourist visa to VISIT the UK it is 3 small forms and never rejected, only the Philippines and North Korea people are made to jump more fences than the grand national, ultra awkward when I challenge this I just got BLANKED by British authorities….. basically they don’t like Filipinos in the UK….
Yeah. Agree. The exit clearance process is cumbersome and nerve-racking. Or at least it was for me. Took three trips to the local BI and a week to get it. Come and go as you please with the SRRV.
I'm glad you said that, I was starting to worry I was the only one who had a problem with it 😂
Why 3 trips! Why was it so hard to get?
What a ridiculous law something North Korea would do !!!!
Yes, that's the #1 reason I will get my SRRV when I go back to the Philippines. Expats tell me not to do it because if I die or some other reason, you'll never get that money back. I'm either going to take my changes with the bank deposit or movie to Thailand and get a retirement visa there. Or Cambodia.
I do have permanent residency in Mexico but that's my last resort. What's nice about Mexico PR is I can come and go as I please, don't have to spend a minimum time there, nor pay anymore annual fees or renew like in Thailand.
@@seans7228 Ayala Circuit Mall BI in Makati. First trip only to be informed of all the copies and pictures they wanted for the process. None of this was needed for extensions done there previously. Second trip submitted everything they wanted. Third trip to pick up the ECC and my passport. I only paid P500 though for the ECC and I didn't need to pay any tourist tax at the airport. This was late-2023 timeframe. I had been in the Philippines over a year continuously at the time.
Balikbayans do NOT need an exit clearance at all.
hope all works out OK, I am like you like everything sorted before flying.Agree so much conflicting advice out there fingers crossed all goes well
for you and Ellen xx Take care Jim and Nora x
Thanks Jim, love to both of you x
Exit Clearance is pure nonsense. I'm so glad I don't live there anymore... so much B.S.
I’ve completely decided not to retire there; you need clear cut rules not one side saying something different than the other, what a headache. No thanks.
It's true that the bureaucracy can drive you nuts but the Philippines has got a lot going for it. Overall, the positives out weigh the negatives for me, that's why I'm still here. 👍
The "Exit Clearance" is the reason why we never go beyond the 6 months. At 5.5 months we fly out for the weekend then comeback. As cheap as flights are, not really a big deal. I really dislike the idea not being able to hop on a flight when ever I want.
I left after 11 months in the Philippines, so in my case I did the exit clearance at Manila airport. I actually tried to get it at my local BI office and they said they wouldn't do it, and that I had to do it at the Manila airport, third floor. Cost me 500php. No exit tax paid. From what I understand ,if you are here 12 months and longer the exit clearance is a more detailed background check.
Then when going thru the immigration line, filipinos go in one lane, foreigners in another lane. My fiance got questioned quite extensively about where we were going, who is she going with, wanted to see pictures on her phone, social media, wanted to see me with her family and then proceeded to ask who was who in that picture. Then they told her to call me, take a picture of my passport main page and send it to her. The immigration officer then can see indeed it was me and let her go through. Be prepared.
In the UK he could go to a pub and have this rant with his mates.... Sadly, there are no pubs here in the Philippines, only bars.
Gday China. I'm pretty sure they don't process the exit clearance in Dumaguette. I heard they only do them in Manila or Cebu. Hopefully I'm wrong mate. I'm leaving in April for my scans etc. I've spoken to JRC here in Cebu, they told me passport, 2 photos and flight details and they will do it for 3500 pesos. Maybe talk to JRC about it mate. Good luck china.
Thanks Digger, won't be the same without you 😞
Know exactly what you're talking about mate. My wife and I have been backwards & forwards to the Philippines now for the last 27 years and nothing seems to change or improve for the better. Everything is very backwards & unprogressive and when something seems to working well they have to change it to confuse everyone. The staff that have to enforce these new rules or laws have absolutely no idea on what they are doing. No different to any other business over there be it the local hardware, the baker, the 7/11 or the local council. Nobody knows anything about what they are doing. Welcome to the Philippines. We are lucky that most times we enter the Philippines we avail of the Balikbayan Privilege. No fees, no paperwork, no exit clearance and no return or onward ticket. We built a house over there and planned to spend my retirement years there but could only last 8 months. Had to get back to some real sanity and real food in Australia. Just visitors now. Anyway liked your video Take care.
Thanks mate, much appreciated. Be lucky 👍
that landlord threat is rubbish - they say that sort of thing to foreigners when ever they are upset. Unless you've done something illegal, nothing to worry about
I learned sooo much vulnerable and important information from this vid AND the comments that - - - I'm hereby subscribing
Welcome to the channel 👍
Mate. I'm in the same boat. You can go to a visa service opposite the Immigration bureau, 4th floor Gmall Cebu City and get clearance the same day. You need to show them your flight ticket though.
Sadly, you can't get that in Dumaguete but I don't think I would want to leave it to the same day. I want to try and get it at least a few days in advance because it gives you some time to sort it out if there is an issue 👍
Guy next to me in JRC was there to get his exit clearance. Not sure how long he was in country but more than 6+ months.
You think too much. Stop it or you'll get a nosebleed.
You're right, that's very good advice 👍
You can get one at the 24hr office at the airport in Manila. Last year I attempted to leave and at Immigration they said I needed the form your talking about so I jumped in a cab to the other terminal and got one. Took about an hour and I made my flight......phew.
Thanks mate, great info. truly, reassuring to hear 👍
Wadd up Fam! You seriously have to hit up Thailand on April 13, 14, and 15 for the Thai, Lao, and Cambodian New Year! It’s gonna be epic, don’t miss it! 🎉🎉❤ 🇹🇭 🇱🇦 🇰🇭
I hear you mate 👍
To ensure you can leave the Philippines without issues, you can perform several checks with the Bureau of Immigration (BI):
1. Derogatory Record Verification: Request a check at the BI's Clearance and Certification Section to confirm if there are any derogatory records against you. Present your passport and pay the applicable fees[1].
2. Hold Departure Order (HDO) Check: Verify if there's an HDO against you, which prevents departure due to pending criminal cases[1].
3. Watchlist Order (WLO) Verification: Ensure you're not on any immigration watchlist that could restrict your travel[3].
4. Immigration Lookout Bulletin Order (ILBO) Check: Confirm you're not subject to an ILBO, which requires additional scrutiny before departure[1].
5. Exit Clearance Certificate (ECC) Requirement: Determine if you need an ECC, especially if you've stayed in the Philippines for over six months on a temporary visa[3].
6. Visa Status Verification: Confirm your visa status is current and valid for departure[1].
7. Travel Ban Check: Verify you're not subject to any country-specific travel bans or restrictions[5].
8. Outstanding Obligations: Ensure you have no unpaid fines or pending obligations with the BI[3].
To conduct these checks:
- Visit the BI office or their official website for information.
- Consult with the Clearance and Certification Section of the BI.
- Review your passport stamps and visa documentation.
- If uncertain, seek legal advice from an immigration lawyer.
Remember, requirements may vary based on your citizenship status, length of stay, and purpose of visit. It's advisable to conduct these checks well in advance of your planned departure date.
Well, this list just illustrate why I do not want to overstay the 6 month "grace-time" in PH. Jumping trough all these hoops and loops are not worth the time. That is, if you value your time.
Better buy the tickets and reset the clock by spending a weekend visiting an other country..
@@nedimyra i reckon you're only partly correct. 6 months or more, ECC is a requirement BUT the rest can apply at anytime the same as any other country if one behaves badly and violate the law. the thing is, all of them are essentially almost the same though just for slightly different reasons.
Regarding a lady getting approval to leave The Philippines and not be 'off boarded' as they call it, there is a type they look for. If your lady is young and pretty, obviously a province girl (her demeanour and the way she is dressed) she will most likely attract their attention. If your lady is more mature, age wise, dressed well and has a few passport stamps out of the country, has confidence, she will most likely get through unhindered - just my experience.
I'm sure that's right, they're bound to do some form of profiling 👍
This is why the island of bali got 5% more foreign tourists last year than the entire philippines!
One island 😂
And many of those foreign tourists were filam filcan visiting their families
Being far too cynical... if people can leave easily, they lose their prison release fees, if they lose LDRs to people trafficking, they lose all control. The caring Philippines gov only gets the hard currency remittances, which prop up the whole cXXXXpt economy, if their citizens get a job as a relatively well paid OFW, or snag a relatively well-to-do foreigner.
Maybe it's to help stop international criminals from leaving, because their funding for investigations is not adequate?
You probably know but don't go anywhere besides the south in March because of the smoke. It's already getting pretty hazy up north and by late March it's going to be hellfire.
Yeah, the plan is to stay south, BKK and Pattaya but having seen how bad the air quality has been in BKK recently I'm having second thoughts. Might be better to put it back to May 👍
You are completely 100% correct!!! So many times i get all sorts of different information and things work one way one time and a different way the next. And don't get me started with information online its absolutely useless I had schedules online saying a ferry was once a week and when I went to the port it was several times a day????
All of the above 👍
rules depend on what kind of day the worker is having the time of day the location the phase of the moon you just never know
100% 👍
Hey Simon, have you heard of Jennifer Terri? She's a pinay vlogger who talks about all this stuff, she may have accurate info..good video...btw, happy to see a window in background now breaking up the white abyss😂👌
No, I haven't mate but I'll check her out 👍 I promised you some window 😂
Simon
Many thx.
Man o man , why the heck do people make life so B difficult...lol...
It's not without reason that I often say that I was born anti establishment....
But ⅓ being refused permission to leave the country.
Paul McGill did a video on his trip with his wife to Thailand, that you may have seen...
Either way your going about it flexibly. But it's still a true pain....
Fingers crossed
Cheers.
Glenn
LOL Be careful when I left Bacolod three years back I had to get my BI clearance from Iloilo even having a BI office in Bacolod. Make sure where you need to get it from the BI office you normally renew
I will look into that 👍
Haha mate. You're a man of many words and mixed metaphors😂
I do love a mixed metaphor 😂😂😂
my friend in cebu said he got his clearance done same day they just gave it, he was expecting it to take 2 weeks
In the U.S. Passport, in small print, it reads, what to do and where to go. In reguards to different conditions and circumstances on how and what You can and cannot do or bring. I have no idea if other countries passports have this same information in it?
Get an agent to do the exit clearance for you. Don't go to the airport without everything in place to get out.
I might use an agent, I'm going speak to my local BI (Dumaguete) when I do my visa renewal in the next couple of weeks, see what they say but 100% I'm not leaving it until I get to the airport 👍
❇️ I stay maximum 30 days in the Philippines 🇵🇭 to avoid visa and exit clearance issues ❇️
oh my God sounds so risky living in the Philippines. I don't know how you men can stand all the disadvantages of it. it's scary. you can go to jail. you can be refused to leave etc etc etc. seems to never end all the complications
Hysterical nonsense.
@@jasperpike242 No its not. Its the Philippines.
Rules and regulations are VERY inconsistent in the Philippines. What works for 1 person, 9/10 times won't work for others. Frustrating to say the least.
Why would you have to prove employment, or anything to do with finances, to leave?
I don't have to but Elen will because immigration need to be satisfied that her purpose of travel is for a holiday and that she intends to return. That she can finance herself while she is out of the country, afford accomodation etc the argument being that it's to prevent people trafficking.
@@SpeakingofAsiajust... Wow!
you do not unless it is a business visa!
If you go as a couple it is a good idea to take any paperwork that has both your names on it. elect, cable etc. You may be separated at the airport and question about each other. Good luck and I wish you a safe trip and plenty of tables of great food.
Thanks my friend, good advice 👍
Yes, it is possible for a landlord in the Philippines to seek a Hold Departure Order (HDO) on a foreigner, but the process is not straightforward and requires specific legal grounds.
An HDO can be issued in the following circumstances:
1. Pending criminal cases: If the foreigner is facing criminal charges, an HDO may be issued to prevent them from leaving the country[1][2].
2. Civil matters: In some cases, HDOs can be used for civil matters, though this is less common[1].
3. Precautionary Hold Departure Order (PHDO): This can be issued ex-parte for crimes where the minimum penalty is at least six years and one day, or when the offender is a foreigner regardless of the imposable penalty[5].
For a landlord to obtain an HDO against a foreigner, they would need to:
1. File a formal complaint in court, typically for a criminal offense related to the tenancy[1].
2. Provide evidence of the foreigner's intent to leave the country or proof that their departure would harm the landlord's ability to pursue justice[1].
3. Request the court to issue an HDO along with the complaint[1].
It's important to note that the issuance of an HDO is at the discretion of the court and requires strong justification. Mere civil disputes or unpaid rent may not be sufficient grounds for an HDO. The court must determine that probable cause exists and there is a high probability that the foreigner will depart from the Philippines to evade arrest and prosecution[3].
You don't need to go Manila, Cebu direct to Don Mueang. It's no wonder your hairline is getting higher, you over thinking!!!
Thanks for noticing that 😂😂
🤪 Be careful not to criticise the Philippines 🇵🇭 or they may lock you up and feed you balut for your meal 😬
what's balut?
@@Regi869Fertilized duck embryo, it's a street food here. Had it once but no desire to do so again
Good info Simon. The longest i have visited is 1 month.
Thanks Rob 👍
This is such a corrupt country. Imagine being charged money to be able to leave. Kind of like they are holding you hostage.
179 days ok
180 days have to check your background etc
You could commit a crime on first day of arriving
Just like the return ticket requirement
If you overstay...by the time they catch you that return ticket has long expired
Ridiculous
Also the acr id card requirement after 59 days
What other country requires tourists to get an id card ? 😂
Exit clearance certificate and immigration ID card both cost money they only make this rules to force you take your money
@@MrHatem0000 yep
Every agency in philippines has budget requirements
BI one of few agencies that meets its
Goal every year
They only enforce the law when it suits them or when it benefits them ....
Or when foreigners involved
When I took my lady to Thailand when going though customs she got pulled side for about an hour they asked her heaps of questions
Seems to be very common for them to do that
they may have thought she waa travelling with a dodgy foreigner
i share your frustrations it really is a lottery and depends on the persons mood, forget the laws and terms printed means nothing its about who you deal with and their mood on that day with so many things
Very true 👍
You go to Bureau of Immigration (You are in Duma AFAIK so should not be a problem), 3 weeks before you fly out and they should give it to you same day (I got it in less than 20 minutes every time). I have done it like 4 times.
You could do it in Airport but I'd rather not add another stress-factor for airport because you don't know the queues etc. Online can be done only if you have 13A visa.
I don't get what's the big deal is to be honest 😂
I was in the Philippines at Christmas took my gf to Thailand for a week she has never been out of the Philippines before and has no job or savings we left from Manila airport no problems at all , the only question immigration asked her was did i support her that was it.
I took my gf 2x the first time zero issues. The second time they wouldn't let her leave without hotel bookings for the whole month, return tickets, held her in there 2 hours and wouldn't let her communicate with me to get the info they were requesting. We've been together 8 years with a kid at that time. They treated us like dirt.
I, too, have been with my gf 8 years I guess it's hit and miss with immigration...
I think you were lucky mate 👍
@@EscapedTheRatRace4evr Terrible!
You're not trapped, you just prefer to make a TH-cam video instead of going to get your ECC, which we all do without any problems before leaving the Philippines
give the guy a break, he has to vlog on something - it's a topic a ot of us have experienced
😊I honestly believe now that even the BOI do not know the current rules and regulations. They have confused themselves, let alone the Foreigners. Personally I am on an SRRV so no issues for me and my wife. Good video though which highlights the problem.
@ Rules are very clear, and have been the same for many years now. If you have been in the Philippines for over 6 months, you need to get an ECC before leaving. I have been here for 20 years
@@drmicelio7488 I've been doing it 27 years and you talk shit.
Wow stuff!! Shocking!
Extortion.
The Chinese and Japanese etc tourists come straight into the UK 2 forms to fill out and no one is rejected, total opposite to the Philippines….one could say it borders on RACISM.
Simon
Many thx.
Man o man , why the heck do people make life so B difficult...lol...
It's not without reason that I often say that I was born anti establishment....
But ⅓ being refused permission to leave the country.
Paul McGill did a video on his trip with his wife to Thailand, that you may have seen...
Either way your going about it flexibly. But it's still a true pain....
Fingers crossed
Cheers
Glenn
Hi Glenn, yeah I think I did see Paul's video but I think it makes a BIG difference when you're married. I've never heard of anyone having an issue when it's a wife 👍
I'm pretty sure that they were married at the time, could be wrong....
I think they check for pending charges unpaid violations and complaints from pinoy landlords and business owners fishing for money
British Embassy told me I had to go to the main Immigration office in Manila to get permission to leave. I am in Cebu and plan to fly from there so I will try Immigration there b4 I waste money and time travelling to Manila.
the embassy are utterly useless.
I'm certain that's not right about you having to go to Manila mate. The Embassy have got that wrong, which is pretty worrying really
I'll stick with my 1 or 2 weeks stays in Ph.
Went to Manila to do few jobs, one was get a 6 months visa extension. You needed 10 days left on your existing 1/2 month visa. All the details on the governmental website are never updated and when ya ring they are utterly incompetent. I’m going to use a visa service in future.
I used an agent for six years , year 7 she stole my passport Acr permanent resident card and 9.500 pesos. Do it yourself, lesson learnt.
@ Jeez really bloody hell.
"I'm going to go on a bit of a rant." Haha, every episode is a bit of a rant. As far as the exit clearance, it's typical Philippines to make it unclear, confusing, and difficult.
The BI website says you have to renew visitor visa extension every 6 months (I just checked seconds ago) but we all know that was changed and it's every 59 days.
Meanwhile, you could go to jail for not renewing at day 59.
With the example of the guy that was reported to immigration for not paying the difference to the landlord, now that he's paid her unless she (the landlord) calls immigration to cancel her complaint I'm afraid he's still not going to be able to get out of the country. I'm afraid that locals and expats that you may have disagreements with will call immigration to get money from you or just to jerk your chain. The question is, how to you right the ship after you're denied exist at the airport?
All this makes me wary on coming back to the Philippines even with an SRRV you will still need clearance.
With SRRV you are always exempted of exit clearance and also travel tax (only if you stayed less than one year in the Philippines for the travel tax exemption)
This is invaluable information
Thanks mate, glad you found it useful 👍
@ Yes thanks Simon and I hope you and your lady can enjoy your holiday. Ridiculous there isn’t any clear cut uniform rules about this. That’s why it’s falling as a travel destination which is a pity as it’s a beautiful country but as usual people making things too complicated
@@SpeakingofAsia I’m ok up to a point but am fussy when important things need doing and this would just drive me nuts. Slow service in restaurants etc I can deal with but as you do rightly say, supposing you had to fly out in an emergency; it should be as straightforward as getting the exit clearance at the airport as they should have all your details on computer. I hope they improve on this; on the other hand though, you are right it is a beautiful place out there. Keep us posted in your next video
kinda strange concept, "trafficking oneself".
I think the idea is that the people traffickers are waiting for her at the other end. She's been promised a dream job (which is a scam) and they've told her to tell immagration it's a holiday. Well, that seems to be the theory anyway mate.
@@SpeakingofAsia yeah, rather authoritarian though i reckon. the gov should do a better job educating its populace through the education sys rather than impose such measures. where else in the world does this?
@@wl88168 I agree entirely mate 👍
No rule of law in Ph, overseas missions web sites also not a source of information. It's a pity as average Filipino's are great.
Sounds to me like if I come to the Philippines ever instead of living in a remote island,, ore mountain getaway. I'll have to go live down in the dam Rat Race next to the office where you can get all the s*** done that needs to be done in the Philippines😢!! so you don't have to spend all the time and money traveling back and forth across the Philippines to get to where you have to do all this paperwork!. and deal with the the Romper Room b ull shit
That's definitely an advantage of city life 👍
Welcome to the philippines, relax, and it will work out. Eventually
I have never had a problem and done it many times. Do you have something to hide?
I've done it a few times before and completely agree that it's a simple process and the requirements are on the BI website. They have made it even easier in the past couple years since more field offices are able to process the ECC now.
Yes, I've got something to hide, it's a big secret I don't want anyone to know about it so I thought the best way to keep it quiet would be to make a video about it 😂😂
money making go station xerox 500 go next stn xerox 1000 go next stn xerox 500 etc
This is outrageous, anyone can make false claims against u, wow, this human rights violation
I’m not gonna moan, but I’m gonna moan.
the reason for immigration clearance is to make sure that you have not committed any crime or wanted by the police in the Philippines all you have to do is go to the BI office
The only reason for exit clearance certificate just to take your money you have to pay fee 3500 to 6000 peso there automatically system all airport in the world to find out if you wanted or not with no fee only philippines immigration take your money
I watch many u tubers from the Philippines , some I find interesting, but , I have no interest of ever going there
Well, hopefully I'm one of the ones you find interesting 🤞
It's not the best place to visit for sure and tourism numbers are showing it. People who went say they will never go back.
Is your partner a Filipina ? Then she doesn't need anything except E travel to travel to Thailand.
All those documents you was referring to isn't required because she's with you, the only thing they might require is a return ticket.
And you need E Travel to return.
Well, that might be correct in theory but it's quite obvious from the comments and experiences of others that it's very often not the reality.
Stop complaining just follow the rules if you don't like the system then don't live here 😊
Blah, blah, blah 😴😴😴
yes and its more fun in the philipines
😂😂
I have been living in the Philippines for twenty years, and it's always like that, let me tell you when you get back to UK Starmer will probably lock you up if you can't speak Arabic 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Trapped in paradise! Lol
Have you ever been to Dumaguete?? Paradise?? 😂😂
Follow the rules Peggy Michell
A Hold Departure Order (HDO) can be imposed on a foreigner in the Philippines under the following circumstances:
1. Pending Criminal Cases:
- An HDO may be issued if the foreigner is charged with a crime punishable by at least six years and one day of imprisonment[1][3].
- The court must determine that there is probable cause and a high probability that the foreigner will attempt to leave the country to evade prosecution[7].
2. National Security or Public Interest:
- In rare cases, an HDO may be initiated if authorities believe the foreigner's departure poses a threat to public safety, health, or national security[2].
3. Violation of Court Conditions:
- For foreigners out on bail, an HDO may be issued if they violate conditions set by the court[2].
The process for imposing an HDO on a foreigner involves:
1. Application:
- The prosecutor or complainant files an application for an HDO with the appropriate Regional Trial Court (RTC)[4].
- In cases involving the National Bureau of Investigation, applications can be filed in specific city courts regardless of where the alleged crime was committed[6].
2. Court Evaluation:
- The judge examines the application, including sworn statements and evidence[7].
- The court must be satisfied that there is a compelling reason to restrict the foreigner's ability to leave the country[1].
3. Issuance:
- If approved, the court issues the HDO, directing the Bureau of Immigration to prevent the foreigner's departure[5].
4. Implementation:
- The Bureau of Immigration enforces the HDO by including the foreigner in their Hold Departure List[5].
It's important to note that:
- A Precautionary Hold Departure Order (PHDO) can be issued even before formal criminal charges are filed, typically during preliminary investigations[2].
- The Department of Justice's power to issue HDOs has been limited by Supreme Court rulings, emphasizing that this power generally lies with the courts[2].
- Foreigners subject to an HDO have legal remedies, including filing motions to lift the order or contesting its issuance[1].
An HDO remains in effect until lifted by the court, which may occur upon acquittal, dismissal of the case, or when the court deems it appropriate to remove the travel restrictions[1].
Great info, many thanks 👍
@@SpeakingofAsia just some additional info. as always, take all with a grain of salt :)
I was leaving the Philippines in December and had been in the Philippines for more than 6 months, but less than a year. I went to the BOI about 2 weeks before I was leaving to make sure I could do the exit clearance at the airport. I was told that I would have to go to Cebu 3-4 days ahead of my flight to get the exit clearance. They said I could alternatively use an agency to get the exit clearance. I did that and it worked. I received the clearance about 5 days before I was leaving.
Love the sound of roosters in the background 😊😅😂
Stop crying just follow the rules period
Get a life! 😂😂
You too big mouth.
@@geoffreywhalley6313 ❄❄
I would never go to the Philippines unless I was going to stay.
strange
Do you have an ACR card?
Yes
@SpeakingofAsia Okay. I don't have any relevant information then other than to say I totally get what you're saying about the rules being applied arbitrarily. 😆
If i were you I'd go to Cebu and use the agent another person mentioned, I think you misunderstood what he said.
Or I am...
He said get the clearance same day, meaning same day you go there not the day of travel.
You would have it in advance then and avoid these problems in Manila unless you're flying from Cebu.
Best of luck, let us know how it worked out even though it may not be the same the following day. 😅
That’s another bs ..money making scam, the ACR card.
All that on line stuff is half fake i been here back n forth 5 to 6 months each yeat if u stay more than 6 months u need the clearance paper get 7 days before u go near 1000 piso