You alive man? I still come back and watch these sometimes. I did the 83mm build and then got right into electronics as a hobby. I've learned so much since then and it's cause of you homie.
Oren, this is so great. As a student who rides the bus then walks a few miles because of cost I never thought I could afford an e-skate. Always wanted but knew it was to much $$$. Even though a Meepo or Wow-go is only $100 more, to a student that's a lot of meals. I just bought the Esc little by little I'll get there thanks to your vids.
Thanks! I'm glad this video was helpful. I know what it's like being a student. You can also build it the way you like. Good luck with your build, and with school!
How are tires doing on these hub motors doing after some time? Im asking because i want to make AWD skateboard using this motors but my only concern is these PU tires.
Hey Oren! Great video, i'm not sure how I missed it. Hey, I see you're in the LA area, is that where you live? Dude, I'm literally in the LA area every other week due to work demands. We should hook up and skate or even do a video together! - Neil
Hey Neil! Thanks! Yeah, I'm in LA. It would be great to meet up when you're in town! I'm busier than I want to be these days trying to finish construction on my house but I'm hoping to get back to a more normal life soon :)
@@orensprojects7250 Totally get it. My family and job schedule really doesn't give me much time for TH-cam as I'd like. But as often as i'll be in LA I'd be a shame if we don't snyc up one of these times. Shoot me your email at bigkidsofficial@gmail.com and we can chat there. Also, good luck with the house, buying a house is a stressful yet rewarding purchase.
Thanks! I finally just release my belt drive build video. I know it took forever. I think they both have their advantages. I'll try to make a video about the differences soon.
I got the deck from skateshred.com - they have many blank decks and other skateboard parts. For the ESC, I think the seller just hasn't updated the picture to the newer version. I recently bought one and it had the battery meter. You can send him a message first to confirm.
Znyx it goes 37km/h which is scary. I haven’t done a full distance test but did go 10.5kms which used roughly 45-50% of the battery so approximately 20km -22km range.
Great videos. Keep them coming. Your videos inspired me to build my own. It’s a belt drive with single 6874 motor with 97mm abec flywheels on a loaded vanguard. Thank you, keep up the great work
Thanks! I'm glad they're helpful. Sounds like you're building an awesome board. Is it 6874? That would be big. I usually see 6374. 97mm wheels on a loaded deck should give a super smooth ride. I'm sure it'll turn out well!
Oops. I meant 6374. It’s amazing how strong one motor is. I weigh about 210 and I’m using a 10s3p pack. Lots of fun. I’m not a safety sally but I starred wearing helmet. These things get dicey sometimes
Yeah, the 6374 does have a lot of power. The belt also helps with torque. A helmet is a smart move, these boards are scary fast at top speed. That's awesome your board is working out well. A 10S3P pack should give you plenty of range.
Hi Oren I was just wondering when you are going to put out your video about wiring everything. I've been assembling my board and for whatever reason the board won't turn on (probably my own incompetence). I just want to see whether I have assembled everything correctly or whether it is some sort of manufacturing default. Thanks.
That's strange the ESC won't turn on. As long as the battery and switch are connected it should turn on. Hopefully it's not broken. I'm trying to get a video out soon showing the details of the wiring. Instead of making a video specifically for the electronics I'm going to show more detail, including how the electronics are connected, in the belt-drive build video I'm currently working on. I'll try to get it done soon.
When accelerating your weight shifts to the back, so having rear wheel drive helps maintain traction while accelerating. Also when turning using the kicktail you lift the front wheels off the ground. Also, having the motors in the front would make the nose of the board much heavier than the tail. I think the board balance feels better with the weight in the back. Those are some reasons that come to mind although I've never tried a front wheel drive skateboard. It would be interesting to try that sometime.
Supe content man! I'm getting hyped towards building my first board this summer, and guides like this helps a lot! Even though, for the lowest cost I think I'm zeroing in on belt driven, and not hub motors. Even though belt has more maintenance cost's.
Thanks! I'm glad the video is helpful. Belt drive is also good. The most important thing is to have a board to ride! I'm working on the video for my belt build.
Great video man. Can't wait for the next one. I've been considering something different from grip tape as well for a board I would carry daily. Your carpet idea is killer. I've got to try it out. I know the hill you tested it on. It's the same hill I tested a yiiboard on, and that thing barely made it up.
Thanks! I'm glad the carpet idea was helpful - for a board you need to carry it's a great option. Yeah, I'm impressed with the motors on this board. I'm definitely happy with them. They're just a bit heavy. The yiiboard looks like it could be fun. I've never ridden a board like that.
Quality content, as usual. Looking forward to your next vid to see how the belt drive holds up. I still havnt built mine yet lol... This is good though, it means I get to see your comparison vid first. I'm leaning towards belt because single drive can be made on a super budget with a basic esc and 1 motor and stuff. But for quality riding around I do feel like a good dual drive hub motor with quality esc is hard to beat.
Thanks! I agree with those points between belt and hub motors. Each type of board has its strengths. I'll try to get the belt board video done soon and go through the comparison.
so I made a longboard with a single belt-drive motor and its going damn fast (24 mph). The only issue I´ve had was my esc. I just bought my third esc because the esc´s I used before were made for rc planes. They didn't have any brake so I had to be very careful while driving this board going fast speed. Now I bought a vesc from flipsky the 4.12 and I hope it will do better than the esc´s I used before. I used a aluminium box as a enclosure for my battery and a plastic box as a enclosure for my esc and I really went on a budget with my motor its a cheap Chinese 400kv motor. But the motor is great. I'm sorry if my English isn't to good because I´m from Germany and a kid...
Hello! Greetings from Chile, why did you changed the esc? I just ordered one of the old ones😅 and haven’t you thought about putting a bms for easier charging? Thanks for your videos!
Hey Miguel, Chile looks like a very nice place. The original ESC broke. I did some sloppy soldering to change it from 6S to 10S and I think I weakened some of the solder joints. The old ESC version is good too. I like the 3-speeds in the new one but the battery meter isn't that important to me. The ESC will beep when the battery gets low. I would put in a bms if I build my own pack with Li-ion. For LiPos it's been easier to just hook them to a balance charger. Li-ion is better but the LiPos are usually cheaper and make the build easier.
I have a few ideas... I made a single belt motor drive board recently and it cost about £200, even cheaper if you have the board already. I used a hobbyking keda 6364 motor, cheap motor mount pull kit, single belt drive esc/receiver unit similar to the one in this video, two 3s 3300mah lipos in series and some cheap trucks and wheels.
Yes, you can change the voltage between 6S, 7S, and 10S. There is some soldering involved though and it's not very easy. The eBay seller has a picture and instructions showing what needs to be done. It's not too difficult but requires some careful soldering.
you have to make more videos for sure. i know that you will post another video, but just a sneak peak. what is size of the wheels and the cruiser board? and about the lipo, was this dangerous haha?
I'll do my best to get more videos out soon. Do you mean the belt board? That one has 83mm wheels and the deck is a bit smaller. The lipo incident was scary. Luckily it didn't cause a fire!
Dual 6364 hub motors will definitely give you more power than a single 5065 belt drive, but the dual hub motors will be noticeably heavier. If you go with a single belt drive I would recommend using a 6374. It'll still be lighter than dual 6364 hub motors but closer in power. I do prefer hub motors myself though because they have less parts to maintain, are quieter, freewheel better, and take less space under the deck. There are always trade offs so it's not an easy decision. I hope this helps.
The peeling is a known problem with the DKL grip tape. Maybe they've improved it now. For the battery case the ones I've seen on ebay can't be easily opened to swap batteries. Hopefully someone will make a strong case that's easy to access.
Hi Oren, I just wanted to know what I could have done wrong in assembling my board. Even though I have two fully charged batteries, and I've hooked up all of the colored wires, but when I press the power button I get a low battery light and the esc beeps. I only bought my esc a little while ago and my esc looks slightly different to yours, and the controller is the new meepo board v2 controller. Other than that I used the exacts same parts. I'm still testing it and I've been able to sometimes get the wheels to spin in opposite directions just by moving them a bit. If you go to my channel you will find a video where I show the board in it's present state. Sorry to bother you again!
Hi Max, from looking at your video the first thing that comes to mind is your motor wires might be touching each other and causing a short. Someone else was describing the same thing and that turned out to be the problem. Make sure all the motor connections are completely insulated (no exposed metal). For the issue of the motors spinning in the wrong direction you can just swap 2 of the motor wires to reverse the motor direction (the wire colors don't matter). Sorry for the delay. I hope you were able to solve it. Looks like you're building a nice board!
Oren's Projects Unfortunately, it seems as though neither of these someone has had any effect on the problems. I've ensured that there is no metal on metal contact and I performed the switch that you suggested. My only goes now is that it's since fault either in having the different esc, or having a broken esc. Very sorry to take I'm so much of your time.
Hi Max, I looked at your video again. Are you sure you're using a series connector for your batteries? It looks like it might be a parallel connector. Using a parallel connector could explain the problems you're having. The ESC is designed to not work if the voltage is too low or too high. The Meepo ESC is set to 10S and if your batteries are in parallel the voltage will be 5S instead of 10S. If you have a volt meter you can check it. When fully charged you should see 42V with a series connector. I hope this helps. I know it sucks not being able to ride your board.
Oren's Projects Thank you so much! I just looked at it and yes, I accidentally bought the parallel adapter (off of Amazon)! Thank you for being so patient and putting up with my incompetence!
That's a good question. I think they both have good and bad points. Overall if I had to pick 1 I would go with hub, the simplicity and low maintenance is a big advantage. I'll get into it in more detail in a future video.
I know you're trying to keep costs down but maybe you should try looking on some eboard sites and purchasing their battery holders. Verreal has a nice one, it might be to big for your board but you can always modify it. The sandwich containers are nice but get brittle when exposed to being out in the elements and the heat of the Lipo's too. But all in all, Great Job.
I agree the sandwich containers are not ideal. All the eboard battery containers I've seen don't make it easy to swap batteries, which is important to me. I'm still looking for more options. It would be nice if an eboard company made a container that can be easily accessed like the sandwich containers but stronger and with proper holes and mounts.
You could also use the eBoard battery containers with a hinge on one side and a pin with a clip on the other side. This way you can easily hinge open the container after pulling out the retaining pin. Then you have a durable case with easy access, and installation would be a breeze.
rustler08 That's a good suggestion too. Thanks! I also recently tried the "Lock & Lock" 18.60-oz container recommended by Suntoryjim. They seem much stronger than the Sistema ones. They're a bit taller and are a perfect fit for the Turnigey 5Ah batteries, but a bit big for the Zippy 3Ah batteries. I'll show it in a video soon.
I used a single motor for the belt drive board. The ESC is available for both single and dual motors. They also have a different version for belt and hub configurations.
The bottom of the hill is on Grand Ave at the corner of 5th St (near the US Bank building). I posted the hill info for Mike Cane, who found a cool site - findhills.com. fdhl.co/2F318LE
The board weighs 14.57 lbs (6.6Kg). The trucks and motors on this board are heavy - but well built. It's difficult to get a board that light with dual motors.
The ESC has a connector for the hall sensors for each motor - it's a small connector with thin wires. Connecting them is not so important. I don't have them connected on this board and the motors work fine.
The 2 sellers I've used are the eBay seller I linked to (dickyho2015) and Meepoboard.com (also linked). Both ship direct from China so I'm guessing they can ship to Europe. If you search for "skateboard ESC" or something like that on ebay you should see a few options. Also, you can check aliexpress.
Awesome! I'm glad I could help. If you use the same container I did for the batteries I would recommend adding velcro to help support the batteries. I did that in my belt drive build, which I'll have a video for soon. Good luck with your build!
Oren's Project's My deck arrived and I found a new, simple and cheaper solution. I found dual hub motor ESC, swappable battery and controller in one pack! www.diyeboard.com/swappable-battery-pack-samsung-7s2p-130wh-with-esc-for-dual-hubs-p-630.html
Nice build bro ... love the deck. But you lost me on the carpet !! Come on man ... as a skater I must say that’s a noob move ... there’s a reason why we put griptape on boards ... same reason you put wax on surf boards and not anything else .... but hey to each his own. I would suggest trying other brands of griptape to find one more suitable to your liking. Some black grip tape companies use silicon carbide - a hard material that stays sharp for a good long time. Other companies use aluminum oxide, which is cheaper but looses its edge and grippyness quickly. Good luck on your future builds my man ...most importantly ... stay safe !
Thanks! The good thing about a DIY electric skateboard is everyone can build what they like. I guess the carpet depends on preference. I use griptape for boards I do tricks on, but for electric skateboards, which I basically just stand on, I haven't had a problem with carpet. My issue with regular griptape is it destroys clothes, scratches things, and is uncomfortable to carry. The DKL griptape is a good concept but just didn't stay on well. I'm still open to finding new ideas for griptape. Maybe I'll try something different next. It's funny you mentioned surf wax because I also stopped using that. I switched to a traction pad, similar to a SUP board. Wax is too messy in my opinion. Stay safe too!
The ESC I'm using in this build is set to 10S voltage (around 36V total). The ESC has detection for the voltage being too high so it wouldn't work if you connected two 36V batteries in series, which would be around 20S voltage.
If your ESC uses FOC mode it will be much quieter. Maybe it's also the way the microphone picks up the motor noise... and these motors might be getting old.
Also, regular grip tape is basically coarse sandpaper, which sands clothes, skin, furniture, and everything else it touches. For just riding, I prefer something less abrasive.
Hey Oren, great videos! I've been itching to get an electric skateboard and definitely want to go the DIY route so I can get the deck style I want and because I will end up tinkering with whatever board I get, so I may as well avoid paying a premium for a branded one. My concern is regarding how to set up the batteries/BMS/charger in such a way that I can simply charge it with a laptop brick like the commercial boards. Because of that I am leaning toward buying this kit; which simply needs a deck: www.diyeboard.com/10s5p-360wh-battery-esc-dual-motor-belt-drive-power-truck-kit-p-590.html My hope is to start with that kit and then upgrade the parts down the line. I feel I will be better able to comprehend how everything works once I have an assembled board in hand. Do you think this is a viable plan or should I outright avoid kits like that? ------------------------- I'd like a board to compete with the new Boosted Mini X that my friend just got; with the range to go all around the Santa Monica / Venice area and the power to go up and down some hills in the Ventura County are where I live. Thanks, I appreciate the opinion- Your videos are so honest and it very much helps seeing boards used in the real world in the same place/manner as I'd like.
Thanks! That looks like a nice kit. I think it could be a good way to get started. I think it depends on your preference. I would personally prefer the 90mm hub motor kit (instead of belts). Hub motors fit better on a short board and have less moving parts to maintain - and they're quieter. Also, I've been going with lipos and the food containers because I like having batteries that I can easily interchange (I can bring extra batteries in a backpack). I know it's not easy to figure out what parts you need when you first start. After a while you'll get a good sense of how you use the board and what'll work best for you (and you can always make changes later). As you can see from my videos I went through many revisions! Good luck with your build!
I'm always looking for better options. Lock & Lock containers are another stronger option. I think it's difficult to find containers that are the right size for the batteries and also easy to open for battery swapping.
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You alive man? I still come back and watch these sometimes. I did the 83mm build and then got right into electronics as a hobby. I've learned so much since then and it's cause of you homie.
Oren, this is so great. As a student who rides the bus then walks a few miles because of cost I never thought I could afford an e-skate. Always wanted but knew it was to much $$$. Even though a Meepo or Wow-go is only $100 more, to a student that's a lot of meals. I just bought the Esc little by little I'll get there thanks to your vids.
Thanks! I'm glad this video was helpful. I know what it's like being a student. You can also build it the way you like. Good luck with your build, and with school!
I am guessing that you didn't get around, that week, to making another video that went over all the details of installing the batteries and ESC?
Appreciate your videos.
I am learning and plan on a build sometime
Keep posting
Thanks! I hope they're helpful. Good luck with your build.
Love it. I've got a very similar little cruiser that I want to convert just like this
(on edit... I see that you have a link to your deck. I must have missed it the first time.) Oren, can you share link to the 32” deck you used here?
Great video. Looks like many of the same exact components as the Meepo 1.5, even the same controller. Right?
Thanks! Yes, this board has the same motors, ESC, and remote as meepoboard. The remote and ESC are sold together.
Hey, Oren. Hope the house thing is going well. Looking forward to more DIY videos.
Thanks Mike! I'm actually getting back to editing now. I'll try to get the video out soon. I know I haven't posted in forever.
You've been missed, Oren! Whenever someone wonders about DIY eSk8, I send them a link to your Channel!
Thanks for the support! I finally just posted my belt drive build video. I know it took forever.
How are tires doing on these hub motors doing after some time? Im asking because i want to make AWD skateboard using this motors but my only concern is these PU tires.
Hey Oren! Great video, i'm not sure how I missed it. Hey, I see you're in the LA area, is that where you live? Dude, I'm literally in the LA area every other week due to work demands. We should hook up and skate or even do a video together!
- Neil
Hey Neil! Thanks! Yeah, I'm in LA. It would be great to meet up when you're in town! I'm busier than I want to be these days trying to finish construction on my house but I'm hoping to get back to a more normal life soon :)
@@orensprojects7250 Totally get it. My family and job schedule really doesn't give me much time for TH-cam as I'd like. But as often as i'll be in LA I'd be a shame if we don't snyc up one of these times. Shoot me your email at bigkidsofficial@gmail.com and we can chat there. Also, good luck with the house, buying a house is a stressful yet rewarding purchase.
Oren , thank you for this cheap build, what is your take in the Hubs vs Belt war ?
Thanks! I finally just release my belt drive build video. I know it took forever. I think they both have their advantages. I'll try to make a video about the differences soon.
Did you connect the batteries in parralel or in series?
Where did you get the deck? Also it seems like the ESC you linked in your description doesn't have a battery meter. Is it the right one?
I got the deck from skateshred.com - they have many blank decks and other skateboard parts. For the ESC, I think the seller just hasn't updated the picture to the newer version. I recently bought one and it had the battery meter. You can send him a message first to confirm.
Just made a board with these motors and esc with x2 5s 5000mah. It’s incredible.
Awesome! The 5Ah batteries is a good choice for nice long rides!
Polly How fast does your board go and how far can it go before running out of battery?
Znyx it goes 37km/h which is scary. I haven’t done a full distance test but did go 10.5kms which used roughly 45-50% of the battery so approximately 20km -22km range.
If I build a board just like this.... i want the board to go distance, do I join the batteries in series or in parallel?
these motors need to run on 10S which is x2 5s in series. The more Mah batteries you get the more distance. Mine goes about 22-25km plenty of distance
What is the max distance for the 5000mah batteries?
Well done dude. Really good video
Thank you!
You got my vote.
Great videos. Keep them coming. Your videos inspired me to build my own. It’s a belt drive with single 6874 motor with 97mm abec flywheels on a loaded vanguard. Thank you, keep up the great work
Thanks! I'm glad they're helpful. Sounds like you're building an awesome board. Is it 6874? That would be big. I usually see 6374. 97mm wheels on a loaded deck should give a super smooth ride. I'm sure it'll turn out well!
Oops. I meant 6374. It’s amazing how strong one motor is. I weigh about 210 and I’m using a 10s3p pack. Lots of fun. I’m not a safety sally but I starred wearing helmet. These things get dicey sometimes
Yeah, the 6374 does have a lot of power. The belt also helps with torque. A helmet is a smart move, these boards are scary fast at top speed. That's awesome your board is working out well. A 10S3P pack should give you plenty of range.
Daniel Brennan hey i just wondered how it held up and what esc you are/were using and how that turned out. Anyway thanks :)
Hi Oren I was just wondering when you are going to put out your video about wiring everything. I've been assembling my board and for whatever reason the board won't turn on (probably my own incompetence). I just want to see whether I have assembled everything correctly or whether it is some sort of manufacturing default. Thanks.
That's strange the ESC won't turn on. As long as the battery and switch are connected it should turn on. Hopefully it's not broken. I'm trying to get a video out soon showing the details of the wiring. Instead of making a video specifically for the electronics I'm going to show more detail, including how the electronics are connected, in the belt-drive build video I'm currently working on. I'll try to get it done soon.
Why did you mount the motors on the back instead of the front? Thanks
When accelerating your weight shifts to the back, so having rear wheel drive helps maintain traction while accelerating. Also when turning using the kicktail you lift the front wheels off the ground. Also, having the motors in the front would make the nose of the board much heavier than the tail. I think the board balance feels better with the weight in the back. Those are some reasons that come to mind although I've never tried a front wheel drive skateboard. It would be interesting to try that sometime.
Supe content man! I'm getting hyped towards building my first board this summer, and guides like this helps a lot!
Even though, for the lowest cost I think I'm zeroing in on belt driven, and not hub motors. Even though belt has more maintenance cost's.
Thanks! I'm glad the video is helpful. Belt drive is also good. The most important thing is to have a board to ride! I'm working on the video for my belt build.
Great video man. Can't wait for the next one. I've been considering something different from grip tape as well for a board I would carry daily. Your carpet idea is killer. I've got to try it out. I know the hill you tested it on. It's the same hill I tested a yiiboard on, and that thing barely made it up.
Thanks! I'm glad the carpet idea was helpful - for a board you need to carry it's a great option. Yeah, I'm impressed with the motors on this board. I'm definitely happy with them. They're just a bit heavy. The yiiboard looks like it could be fun. I've never ridden a board like that.
Quality content, as usual. Looking forward to your next vid to see how the belt drive holds up. I still havnt built mine yet lol... This is good though, it means I get to see your comparison vid first. I'm leaning towards belt because single drive can be made on a super budget with a basic esc and 1 motor and stuff. But for quality riding around I do feel like a good dual drive hub motor with quality esc is hard to beat.
Thanks! I agree with those points between belt and hub motors. Each type of board has its strengths. I'll try to get the belt board video done soon and go through the comparison.
hey Oren, for 27" board what hub motors will you reckon ? 70/83/90mm ?
The biggest that still look normal on it.
How far is the range and what is the top speed?
so I made a longboard with a single belt-drive motor and its going damn fast (24 mph). The only issue I´ve had was my esc. I just bought my third esc because the esc´s I used before were made for rc planes. They didn't have any brake so I had to be very careful while driving this board going fast speed. Now I bought a vesc from flipsky the 4.12 and I hope it will do better than the esc´s I used before. I used a aluminium box as a enclosure for my battery and a plastic box as a enclosure for my esc and I really went on a budget with my motor its a cheap Chinese 400kv motor. But the motor is great. I'm sorry if my English isn't to good because I´m from Germany and a kid...
Hello! Greetings from Chile, why did you changed the esc? I just ordered one of the old ones😅 and haven’t you thought about putting a bms for easier charging?
Thanks for your videos!
Hey Miguel, Chile looks like a very nice place. The original ESC broke. I did some sloppy soldering to change it from 6S to 10S and I think I weakened some of the solder joints. The old ESC version is good too. I like the 3-speeds in the new one but the battery meter isn't that important to me. The ESC will beep when the battery gets low. I would put in a bms if I build my own pack with Li-ion. For LiPos it's been easier to just hook them to a balance charger. Li-ion is better but the LiPos are usually cheaper and make the build easier.
I see now, thank you so much!!
Hello !Me again...wich batteries would you recommend, lipo or ion-li??
Thank you
Are you going to post anymore?
I'm a down hill long boarder and I have an extra land yacht battle axe board with your experience any recommendations for budget conversions
I have a few ideas...
I made a single belt motor drive board recently and it cost about £200, even cheaper if you have the board already. I used a hobbyking keda 6364 motor, cheap motor mount pull kit, single belt drive esc/receiver unit similar to the one in this video, two 3s 3300mah lipos in series and some cheap trucks and wheels.
Still working on your skateboards?
Do you need to change anything on the ESC if you want to run it at a different voltage?
Yes, you can change the voltage between 6S, 7S, and 10S. There is some soldering involved though and it's not very easy. The eBay seller has a picture and instructions showing what needs to be done. It's not too difficult but requires some careful soldering.
Do you know how to program the esc to make it so that you can push start these boards? Basically you just start riding and the motors kick in?
The ESC used in this build can't be reprogrammed. The newer versions of the ESC does turn the board on once the motor starts spinning.
you have to make more videos for sure. i know that you will post another video, but just a sneak peak. what is size of the wheels and the cruiser board? and about the lipo, was this dangerous haha?
I'll do my best to get more videos out soon. Do you mean the belt board? That one has 83mm wheels and the deck is a bit smaller. The lipo incident was scary. Luckily it didn't cause a fire!
I just checked out the Ownboard esc+remote. It looks very nice. I'll definitely try it for my next build.
I know 18650s are better. I was trying to keep the soldering to a minimum with these builds. I'm sure I'll get to building one soon though.
I would suggest using thermal paste inside the axle of the rear trucks to cool the motors better.
Seems like that would help transfer heat to the trucks. I wonder if anyone else tried that. Thanks for the suggestion.
And again, nice job Oren. Board has plenty of power. How's your range?
Thanks! it's still around 8 miles for me.
Hey man, in your opinion is it better to use a 6364 dual hub motor chinese kit like yours or a single N5065 8044 belt drive chinese kit ? thank you
Dual 6364 hub motors will definitely give you more power than a single 5065 belt drive, but the dual hub motors will be noticeably heavier. If you go with a single belt drive I would recommend using a 6374. It'll still be lighter than dual 6364 hub motors but closer in power. I do prefer hub motors myself though because they have less parts to maintain, are quieter, freewheel better, and take less space under the deck. There are always trade offs so it's not an easy decision. I hope this helps.
Thanks a lot for the explanation ! And good job on your builds
Sand the edges of the griptape it will stop it from peeling, also you should use a proper case and bolt it on. Theyre like $30 aud on ebay
The peeling is a known problem with the DKL grip tape. Maybe they've improved it now. For the battery case the ones I've seen on ebay can't be easily opened to swap batteries. Hopefully someone will make a strong case that's easy to access.
@@orensprojects7250 all griptapes will peel if you dont sand it, and yea very true
Hi Oren, I just wanted to know what I could have done wrong in assembling my board. Even though I have two fully charged batteries, and I've hooked up all of the colored wires, but when I press the power button I get a low battery light and the esc beeps. I only bought my esc a little while ago and my esc looks slightly different to yours, and the controller is the new meepo board v2 controller. Other than that I used the exacts same parts. I'm still testing it and I've been able to sometimes get the wheels to spin in opposite directions just by moving them a bit.
If you go to my channel you will find a video where I show the board in it's present state.
Sorry to bother you again!
Hi Max, from looking at your video the first thing that comes to mind is your motor wires might be touching each other and causing a short. Someone else was describing the same thing and that turned out to be the problem. Make sure all the motor connections are completely insulated (no exposed metal). For the issue of the motors spinning in the wrong direction you can just swap 2 of the motor wires to reverse the motor direction (the wire colors don't matter). Sorry for the delay. I hope you were able to solve it. Looks like you're building a nice board!
Oren's Projects Unfortunately, it seems as though neither of these someone has had any effect on the problems. I've ensured that there is no metal on metal contact and I performed the switch that you suggested. My only goes now is that it's since fault either in having the different esc, or having a broken esc.
Very sorry to take I'm so much of your time.
Hi Max, I looked at your video again. Are you sure you're using a series connector for your batteries? It looks like it might be a parallel connector. Using a parallel connector could explain the problems you're having. The ESC is designed to not work if the voltage is too low or too high. The Meepo ESC is set to 10S and if your batteries are in parallel the voltage will be 5S instead of 10S. If you have a volt meter you can check it. When fully charged you should see 42V with a series connector. I hope this helps. I know it sucks not being able to ride your board.
Oren's Projects Thank you so much! I just looked at it and yes, I accidentally bought the parallel adapter (off of Amazon)! Thank you for being so patient and putting up with my incompetence!
Do you prefer belt drive or hub?
That's a good question. I think they both have good and bad points. Overall if I had to pick 1 I would go with hub, the simplicity and low maintenance is a big advantage. I'll get into it in more detail in a future video.
Oren's Projects thnx heaps - looking forward to seeing your belt drive build. I need more grunt going up hills
I know you're trying to keep costs down but maybe you should try looking on some eboard sites and purchasing their battery holders. Verreal has a nice one, it might be to big for your board but you can always modify it. The sandwich containers are nice but get brittle when exposed to being out in the elements and the heat of the Lipo's too. But all in all, Great Job.
I agree the sandwich containers are not ideal. All the eboard battery containers I've seen don't make it easy to swap batteries, which is important to me. I'm still looking for more options. It would be nice if an eboard company made a container that can be easily accessed like the sandwich containers but stronger and with proper holes and mounts.
You could also use the eBoard battery containers with a hinge on one side and a pin with a clip on the other side. This way you can easily hinge open the container after pulling out the retaining pin. Then you have a durable case with easy access, and installation would be a breeze.
rustler08 That's a good suggestion too. Thanks! I also recently tried the "Lock & Lock" 18.60-oz container recommended by Suntoryjim. They seem much stronger than the Sistema ones. They're a bit taller and are a perfect fit for the Turnigey 5Ah batteries, but a bit big for the Zippy 3Ah batteries. I'll show it in a video soon.
I was curious about the belt driven board. Is it single or dual motor because there is a dual motor of you r esc that I may want to try.
I used a single motor for the belt drive board. The ESC is available for both single and dual motors. They also have a different version for belt and hub configurations.
What street / block in LA is that so I can compare the incline with my area?
The bottom of the hill is on Grand Ave at the corner of 5th St (near the US Bank building). I posted the hill info for Mike Cane, who found a cool site - findhills.com. fdhl.co/2F318LE
Does anyone know how long a charge would take with 2*5s 5000 mAh batteries and his recommended charger?
^^^^^^ also need to know this
And what's the weight - reckon it's less than 5.5kg?
The board weighs 14.57 lbs (6.6Kg). The trucks and motors on this board are heavy - but well built. It's difficult to get a board that light with dual motors.
Hi! have a question, do you know how to connect the hall sensors cables from the hub motors to the esc in the case it has?
So much thanks!
The ESC has a connector for the hall sensors for each motor - it's a small connector with thin wires. Connecting them is not so important. I don't have them connected on this board and the motors work fine.
Wouldn’t 83s have done better uphill due to torque and acceleration compared to 90mms?
Having a smaller diameter would help with torgue but the 90mm motors are bigger and more powerful, so I think they'd still beat the 83mm.
Hi, my question is what and how do you charge your boards
I use the B6AC V2 balance charger with a parallel charging board. I have links in the description.
Is there any other seller for this ESC? I need shipping from Europe. Just tell me if you know.
The 2 sellers I've used are the eBay seller I linked to (dickyho2015) and Meepoboard.com (also linked). Both ship direct from China so I'm guessing they can ship to Europe. If you search for "skateboard ESC" or something like that on ebay you should see a few options. Also, you can check aliexpress.
Oren's Projects Thanks!
Oren's Projects I am going to make a similar skate as yours and you really helped me along the way.
Awesome! I'm glad I could help. If you use the same container I did for the batteries I would recommend adding velcro to help support the batteries. I did that in my belt drive build, which I'll have a video for soon. Good luck with your build!
Oren's Project's My deck arrived and I found a new, simple and cheaper solution. I found dual hub motor ESC, swappable battery and controller in one pack!
www.diyeboard.com/swappable-battery-pack-samsung-7s2p-130wh-with-esc-for-dual-hubs-p-630.html
Nice build bro ... love the deck. But you lost me on the carpet !! Come on man ... as a skater I must say that’s a noob move ... there’s a reason why we put griptape on boards ... same reason you put wax on surf boards and not anything else .... but hey to each his own. I would suggest trying other brands of griptape to find one more suitable to your liking.
Some black grip tape companies use silicon carbide - a hard material that stays sharp for a good long time. Other companies use aluminum oxide, which is cheaper but looses its edge and grippyness quickly.
Good luck on your future builds my man ...most importantly ... stay safe !
Thanks! The good thing about a DIY electric skateboard is everyone can build what they like. I guess the carpet depends on preference. I use griptape for boards I do tricks on, but for electric skateboards, which I basically just stand on, I haven't had a problem with carpet. My issue with regular griptape is it destroys clothes, scratches things, and is uncomfortable to carry. The DKL griptape is a good concept but just didn't stay on well. I'm still open to finding new ideas for griptape. Maybe I'll try something different next. It's funny you mentioned surf wax because I also stopped using that. I switched to a traction pad, similar to a SUP board. Wax is too messy in my opinion. Stay safe too!
Would it harm there esc if I ran two 36v lipo batteries in series
The ESC I'm using in this build is set to 10S voltage (around 36V total). The ESC has detection for the voltage being too high so it wouldn't work if you connected two 36V batteries in series, which would be around 20S voltage.
why are alot of these Motors so loud? I use the same Motors and mine are dead quiet.
If your ESC uses FOC mode it will be much quieter. Maybe it's also the way the microphone picks up the motor noise... and these motors might be getting old.
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Those snaplock containers 😂
Yeah, they're a bit unusual, but I like them.
newly subbed awesome videos man
thanks
Thanks for the support!
Wait so why not use regular grip tape?
Because you reduce vibrations with this.
Also, regular grip tape is basically coarse sandpaper, which sands clothes, skin, furniture, and everything else it touches. For just riding, I prefer something less abrasive.
6:06 You call this shed a house in the US? :D
Hey Oren, great videos!
I've been itching to get an electric skateboard and definitely want to go the DIY route so I can get the deck style I want and because I will end up tinkering with whatever board I get, so I may as well avoid paying a premium for a branded one. My concern is regarding how to set up the batteries/BMS/charger in such a way that I can simply charge it with a laptop brick like the commercial boards. Because of that I am leaning toward buying this kit; which simply needs a deck:
www.diyeboard.com/10s5p-360wh-battery-esc-dual-motor-belt-drive-power-truck-kit-p-590.html
My hope is to start with that kit and then upgrade the parts down the line. I feel I will be better able to comprehend how everything works once I have an assembled board in hand.
Do you think this is a viable plan or should I outright avoid kits like that?
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I'd like a board to compete with the new Boosted Mini X that my friend just got; with the range to go all around the Santa Monica / Venice area and the power to go up and down some hills in the Ventura County are where I live.
Thanks, I appreciate the opinion- Your videos are so honest and it very much helps seeing boards used in the real world in the same place/manner as I'd like.
Thanks! That looks like a nice kit. I think it could be a good way to get started. I think it depends on your preference. I would personally prefer the 90mm hub motor kit (instead of belts). Hub motors fit better on a short board and have less moving parts to maintain - and they're quieter. Also, I've been going with lipos and the food containers because I like having batteries that I can easily interchange (I can bring extra batteries in a backpack). I know it's not easy to figure out what parts you need when you first start. After a while you'll get a good sense of how you use the board and what'll work best for you (and you can always make changes later). As you can see from my videos I went through many revisions! Good luck with your build!
That tupper ware your using is the cheapest stuff, there are far more durable options that you will not be able to shatter like that.
I'm always looking for better options. Lock & Lock containers are another stronger option. I think it's difficult to find containers that are the right size for the batteries and also easy to open for battery swapping.