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  • @DC4260Productions
    @DC4260Productions 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Rivet have got a long way to go before they ever regain me as a customer. The atrocious quality of this route, stupid decision to cut it at Ospizio Bernina, console players getting shafted in relation to safety systems and flimsy excuses for things like enabling the observation coach on this route just get my blood boiling, and I don't expect Rivet to ever pull their heads out their rear ends and change for the better.
    I wonder what happened with the planned gameplay pack for Edinburgh to Glasgow. That was announced alongside Arosa Aggregates, but the release got pushed back and now I wonder if they've finally realised how much people hate gameplay packs and decided to cancel it.

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They didn't cancel the edinburgh glasgow pack. They confirmed in another place it is still being worked on. There's probably issues related to licensing or they had to make changes last minute or some other issue

    • @thetrainguy4
      @thetrainguy4  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe DRS or ONE pulled their license?

  • @HanseLok9495
    @HanseLok9495 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Its becoming silly at this point. And yet DTG go through with releasing it in a broken state for consoles and deciding on having Rivet fix it later, which is something I wouldn't wanna bet on.

    • @LadySophieofHougunManor7325
      @LadySophieofHougunManor7325 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What do people expect did they really expect that takeover by bloody focus entertainment would improve things pmsl 🤣

  • @andybear_9
    @andybear_9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thirty quid is too much for any of the routes, but im guessing they're never coming down at any point

  • @GermanEnigma
    @GermanEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The trees in the older tracks (up to TSW 3) are better looking. Those in the TSW 4 routes have a very distracting LOD switching as they get nearer.

  • @GermanEnigma
    @GermanEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Apparently, DTG worked with Rivet OVER THE WEEKEND to implement the safety systems activation using the cab controls (for console players) just in time for the launch. Lost sales can be a great motivator. Which also explains why fixes can wait after the sales are done.

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sometimes it can be a motivator, sometimes not. Look at the day before where the studio shut down from low sales so they didn't have the funds to patch the game.
      Of course there are examples where it went well like cyberpunk and no man's sky.

  • @cannadineboxill-harris2983
    @cannadineboxill-harris2983 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I needed to know why they don’t dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so that they can extend the unused abandoned underground train stations.
    Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock and that includes the class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign them an overhead line and also make them into Five cars per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on those Five cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 8-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into an 11 car per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers.
    A Stock Trains and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it more Larger and extend it to the bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Railway tunnel into a High-Speed Railway lines?
    The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Railway line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 47 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project if that will be OK for London Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden.
    oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from the Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden more Easily.
    Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly line and also build brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street can they also make another brand new underground train station in Chingford and could they extend the Piccadilly Line and the DLR right up to Chingford?
    All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Five carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains.
    Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and can they order Every 37 Octagon and Every 17 Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 142MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 142MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units, can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 18 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!!!!!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 17 Tonnes for all of those 142MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!! so please make sure that the Builders can do as they are told!!!!! And please do something about these very very important Professional ideas Please? Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Australia, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your suggestions were extremely unclear and I have no idea what you are trying to say. Are you unhappy with the current railways or do you want them in tsw? What do the prime ministers or the mayors have to do with anything?

  • @nicokeel9609
    @nicokeel9609 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love living in switzerland with the game at over 70 A$ … TSW content is just not worth this price I can go on the route in rl and be cheeper (and get a better experience)

  • @GermanEnigma
    @GermanEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back in the day, they implemented a working TMS on the Class 385 (ScotRail) but you have to manually click for the train announcements. Now they have a multi-lingual system on the Allegra but they managed to break something else (safety system).

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Edit: It will be fixed for release.
      The actual system isn't broken. You just need a keyboard to activate it.

  • @LadySophieofHougunManor7325
    @LadySophieofHougunManor7325 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We can always live in hope for tsw4 London route

  • @Danje1-MX5
    @Danje1-MX5 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've just been in the alps last year and we were at 2000+ meters. There was no snow what so ever and everything was green and lush. Just letting you know. If you want to have some pictures let me know :D

    • @thetrainguy4
      @thetrainguy4  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I’m summer sure, not the middle of winter though!

  • @GermanEnigma
    @GermanEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A more expensive cousin of S-Bahn Zentralschweiz: Luzern - Sursee. The safety systems didn't work on that one either.

  • @Korowiow_vel_Panajew
    @Korowiow_vel_Panajew 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Niche genre or not, this is the definition of greed and laziness, release after release we get mediocre or crappy stuff with occasional good or great route, if we won't vote with our wallets we get more of this treatment. I really want to support them because I know how niche this type of gaming really is but at the same time I request they at least try to treat me like a person that shares the same passion not as a wallet to squeeze to the last penny.

  • @GermanEnigma
    @GermanEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An honest FAQ.
    Q: Are there any extensions or future DLC planned for Berina?
    We don't have the sales figures yet for Berina and at the moment there's nothing to announce.

  • @ElijahsTransport
    @ElijahsTransport 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is so entertainingly funny! Great video! Yes dovetail and rivet are filled with dumb and pathetic excuses for their lazy cash grabs.

  • @dettrains
    @dettrains 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    always said this about rivet. Edinburgh to Glasgow was crazy glitchy on release. dtg don’t care about stopping it, they just want more money that’s why they release a TSW every year

  • @EuropeanRailfanAlt
    @EuropeanRailfanAlt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rivet messed up obviously...
    It's even more of a shame than it already is when you remember it's the first route that is a bit in Italy, and several people that play TSW are Italian. (Me too but I don't play this excuse of a sim because it's too fricking expensive)

  • @taraskravchuk3009
    @taraskravchuk3009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it will be cool dls because we have seen the stream from the developers but the stream from the developers came out a bit blurry how will the release of Bernina Ospizio Tirano be it will be high quality and clear if you buy it and download it then it will be clear but really decent the stream from the developers came out blurry😊

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Usually the stream compresses everything because of the software used so it would look a bit different

  • @GermanEnigma
    @GermanEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dynamic snow buildup feature in TSW 5 (maybe).

  • @gtasandman
    @gtasandman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I stopped buying dlc mid last year and started playing other games ,this half assed game gets old.. im sure a bunch of other people have done the same lately.

  • @MrSit87
    @MrSit87 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think they have done a good job on the actual scenery... agreed on everything else though. I´m afraid that´s all we will be getting in the future from DTG. Short routes!

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Salzburg Rosenheim is actually long lol at around 88km

  • @ijpstar
    @ijpstar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh no sir, you haven't bored me at all
    If anything, you have helped me because I was going o buy it Tuesday and play it on my RockstarPoole69 channel Saturday but I told myself that something didn't feel right with it and you confirmed my suspicions
    Why, like just in the name of why, do we keep on allowing Dovetail to hold Rivet to this level of substandardness? It is not that hard to get grass and scenary textures right but they didn't just get it wrong, they got it wrong on such a basic level that it's almost laughable
    I remember back when the West Cornwall Local came out they Dovetail came out on stream and they said after Rivet completely ballsed that route up that if it wasn't good enough for them, it wasn't good enough for us, where is the accountability?
    They have even got a church model wrong and it's not a hard church to model because it is a landmark
    So no, I won't ne buying the Berninaline and probably won't be buying another Rivet product for the game, enough is enough in my opinion

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's wrong with the grass?

  • @ianmalcolm7782
    @ianmalcolm7782 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Starting 2024 with a bang with this clanger. If you're dumb enough at this point to keep pumping money into this franchise you shouldn't be surprised or complain when it falls well short of expectations or what was advertised. Each successive release continues to lower the bar further, yet people continue to buy. I'd suggest if you have purchased and don't think its up to scratch post a review and refund it.

  • @SnoopCleggyClegg
    @SnoopCleggyClegg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I own every piece of content, and I'll end up buying this one too. But I have to agree. It's expensive, it's not the route that anybody wanted. Slow, mountain climbing experience? We have Arosalinie for that. I cannot understand why Dovetail Games thought that bringing out another route that is basically the same thing, was a good idea. I'm going to guess that Arosalinie is one of the least played / purchased maps in the game. If all the things they could have given us, I just don't understand why it is this!

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rivet can make whatever they want and wanted to do switzerland justice. Also your argument is flawed. High speed routes shouldn't be made since it's been done before. Freight routes shouldn't be made because it's been done before. See how it sounds when you apply it to any other route?
      Just because it's slow doesn't mean it should never be made. Not every route has to be a high speed route. That would just be boring. Arosa wasn't great. Mountains looked terrible and sounds and physics wasn't that great. This route improves on a lot of that

    • @SnoopCleggyClegg
      @SnoopCleggyClegg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@potatoman451 it's nothing to do with it being slow. It's everything to do with it being almost identical to another unpopular route. I could live with that if there was lots of driving to do, but from their preview stream I certainly got the impression this train runs in cruise control. You are literally a passenger sat in the cab watching a train go up some scenery.
      High speed sells, freight sells, classic Locomotives sell. German routes full of variety sell. A decent American route (not looking at you Cane Creek, Cajon Pass, Sherman Hill!).
      Other than another linear, desert / Canyon style USA route, this is the last thing I wanted to see personally. Arosalinie scratches that itch on the rare occasion I want to play that kind of route, I think most people would agree that it's not something you need two of!
      It still won't stop me buying it of course. I'm in way too deep now to not buy it! The only thing I didn't buy was the Christmas special thing, even for £2.49!!!

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SnoopCleggyClegg it exists in the real world so why not create it in a train sim. An entire type of line shouldn't be ignored because one would see it as boring. Variety matters more otherwise you get players who aren't happy. You will get players unhappy either way. They create too much of the same thing, players complain. They create too little and players complain. That's just the way it is

  • @nigel6446
    @nigel6446 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video TTG4. I agree overexpensive and such a short route. Typical of Rivet, so unprofessional. Rivet doesn’t shine for me. They totally spoilt WCL and they lost my confidence in them to build and present a decent route and agree with everything you say TTG4. The mountains look better than Arosa, but I bet they don’t improve Arosa at all.

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They can't improve arosa without rebuilding the entire thing from scratch. You don't just add lidar.

  • @johnmunro5090
    @johnmunro5090 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tsw needs reduce prices for routes that doesn't go all the way

  • @NeTroX-TSW
    @NeTroX-TSW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the frozen lake is not at all realistic they said that it was their greatest achievement for this route but when the lake is frozen the snow covers the ice which is therefore no longer visible. so rivet game still as bad to make their decor

  • @dotrail
    @dotrail 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im not getting anything until they finally get a licence for Sydney trains lol

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's probably faster if you created it tbh. Last I heard from dtg is that the Australian railways have not said yes to a license

    • @dotrail
      @dotrail 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@potatoman451 honestly I think it would be quicker lol.

  • @Thunderer0872
    @Thunderer0872 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    See now there is a switch that works in the cab to turn on safety systems in their notes did you get a refund or have you kept the game?

    • @thetrainguy4
      @thetrainguy4  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The switch that they repurposed from other functions. A botch.

    • @Thunderer0872
      @Thunderer0872 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thetrainguy4 Negative Nelly did you get your refund, This is Rivet games after all

    • @gregorybentley5707
      @gregorybentley5707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd like to know if you got a refund as well, please.

  • @True_NOON
    @True_NOON 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wouldntve gotten it day 1 anyways
    It would be o [PS] or B [XB] on consoles , done and mapped in 5 seconds
    Yeah i never cared for the TSW schengen borders , the biggest change is the station objects changin looks , scratch that, only the signage changing
    13:40 it looks like railroads online , not as an insult but not like a Landscape first game(yes bc its a game not a sim)

  • @nathwhhite73
    @nathwhhite73 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    People just need to stop paying for stuff and buying from DTG. It’s as simple as that, when will people make a stand against this kind of nonchalant “game” “dlc” releasing when it’s sub par and not ready. Just STOP supporting the developers jeees. It’s constant with these people, they don’t care about the player they just rely on the constant flow of people spending. It’s unacceptable at this point.

  • @GermanEnigma
    @GermanEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Riveting to say the least, but not in a good way.

  • @michaelleahy3294
    @michaelleahy3294 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    he don't understand about TSW 4

  • @MrSit87
    @MrSit87 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Almost every route in train sim loses with these "real life side by side comparisons" on track balast, single houses, single pieces of road etc... go try this with some of the routes you consider "good" and "classics". You will find loads of stuff wrong. There is only a handfull of very well made freeware and third party routes on TS Classic that can hold up to those standards you are setting.

    • @thetrainguy4
      @thetrainguy4  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Surely getting the snow build up correct in the Swiss alps is justifiable, like ensuring forests are in fact forests and not lightly wooded areas or completely treeless.
      I get what you’re saying but it’s especially bad on this route.

    • @MrSit87
      @MrSit87 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They explained the snow thing and said the mountains would look crap, if they use it. But we don´t know if that is just an excuse again. I´m the last person to praise Rivet or DTG... but I can make any route in TSW look terrible with side by side pictures vs. real life. I think this route looks OK... will I be buying it? No, because it´s boring a to b slow driving with few services.@@thetrainguy4

  • @LadySophieofHougunManor7325
    @LadySophieofHougunManor7325 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rivet fix it get real hello 150/2 still
    Waiting years later for a fix if you think it get fixed have a bloody word with yourself as Jim Royle would say

  • @GermanEnigma
    @GermanEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is worse than CoD: Modern Warfare 3 (2023).

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think cod is worse lol. There is very little innovation, campaign was poor, multiplayer got dry extremely quickly, etc. The $70 price tag didn't help either since it was supposed to be dlc but Activision wanted more money. Sure mp was great but the fun lasted like 1 match. Tsw is just so much more fun for me

  • @Southeastern-Train-Channel
    @Southeastern-Train-Channel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    £51!???!?!?!?!?! WTF?!?!?! Just when I thought £29.99 for MML And Nidertalbahn was to much...

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's regional pricing for you and price conversions

    • @Korowiow_vel_Panajew
      @Korowiow_vel_Panajew 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@potatoman451 Dude stop this defending bs everywhere xD They are greedy af and your writings won't change it.

    • @thetrainguy4
      @thetrainguy4  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A$51, where one Australian Dollar is worth a bit less than Pound Sterling.

  • @LadySophieofHougunManor7325
    @LadySophieofHougunManor7325 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No safety systems on console why the fuck not U.K. routes manage it

  • @dvs21a
    @dvs21a 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll not be getting it. It sounds pointless and expensive.

  • @marcmurray
    @marcmurray 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It looks terrible. Looks really dated old game. Rubbish will not be buying it no effort just a cash grab. Really upset wanted to see improvement but nothing.

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I find it good enough for what it is. The only other thing that is graphically up there is simrail which I'm not convinced to buy.
      Train sims are quite niche so there's not really many big devs working on it or triple a studios like microsoft

    • @Atrail_Mckinley4786
      @Atrail_Mckinley4786 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@potatoman451It doesn't matter if it's "niche." That doesn't justify the issues and the poor planning that led to the short length.

    • @ianmalcolm7782
      @ianmalcolm7782 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@potatoman451 And because people like you keep making these excuses and buying this tat, they will keep releasing DLC just like this. Well done once again sir.

    • @potatoman451
      @potatoman451 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@ianmalcolm7782 I buy things because I like it. I don't get to experience trains and tsw is the only way I can. No other train sim competes against tsw imo. It doesn't matter what others say to me

    • @Korowiow_vel_Panajew
      @Korowiow_vel_Panajew 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@potatoman451 No, what really you do is spreading opinion on almost every video related to TSW that buying half-finished product for full price is fine...but it's not. I don't get to experience trains as well and TSW is the only way I can do that too, but I refuse to sit quiet when I fell cheated with half-finished stuff that don't get fixed in the end or end up in worse condition that before (BR 187 is perfect example with all the missing sounds).

  • @Thunderer0872
    @Thunderer0872 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeez plug in a keyboard to a console, or I bet if you stand up turn around and find the switch for the safety system on the back wall? also for the price they laid the track built the unit did some of the scenery put in the scanned mountains seems like you want to complain for the sake of complaining, good luck in getting a refund. I thought you Ozzy lot called us Brits whinging poms seems like you're the whinger here.
    Europe boarders are not manned there is no fan fare real world no passport control watch a video of a cab ride on the line there's no line or sign so what's the problem? Lastly it is just a game yes they claim a sim but there are some constraints with being across so many systems so compromises are made with scenery.

    • @thetrainguy4
      @thetrainguy4  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Omg I had a stroke reading this.
      1) not everyone has a keyboard.
      2) IRL ZS can’t be turned off from a switch, that’s why it’s shortcut only.
      3) the track is wrong in places, the unit sounds bad, no BEX coaches, the scenery (apart from the mountains which look excellent) looks awful.
      4) if I play for less than 2 hours on steam I can get a refund.
      5) cracker insult buddy.
      6) the border thing is my point exactly, it’s not exciting so why do it over St Moritz?

    • @Thunderer0872
      @Thunderer0872 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thetrainguy4
      1 Keyboards are dirt cheap I have one, but blame Dovetail for default off, some systems are complicated but UK AWS is dead easy so default isolated is a bit retarded. as for Rivet not having a button or a cab switch then yes that's on them for that.
      2 surely they have an isolation switch as the did with the locos on Arosa?
      3 where is the track wrong? BEX coaches from Arosa surely can be added?
      4 didn't know that but how much can you get if they allow full or part? also a hassle to get one I bet?
      5 No worries yah Flaming Galah... Put another Kookaburra on the barbi
      6 its like that all over Europe only the UK have any boarder patrol etc. what were you expecting between stations anyway?