It looks like nothing has changed at ZZP over the years. Car looked like it ran better with the Trifecta tune and virtually stock than in this clip. Their tuning has always been VERY hit and miss, thanks to them back in the day for leaving my GTP’s PCM in programming mode and telling me (a young kid at the time that didn’t know any better) that it was okay to leave it that way. *piston 3 joined Space X sooner after*
The advantage tune is a great deal for what you get from trifecta. Thats still impressive for a tour x and zzp is a great company as well. I have a 16GS and a few minor things done with trifecta advantage tune. 100K miles being tuned problem free.
Still going good tho even if you didn’t sound too impressed with performance. Mine here in NZ is badged as a Holden Commodore Calais V…same 4wd system and plastic clad bodywork, but powered by your caddy direct injected v6 (235kw…315hp) but with a 9sp auto. Supposed to do 6.7 to 100kph (62mph) and it feels all of that. Under rated cars…Pity we don’t get it here anymore. My 2019 I think is was one of the last
5:34 I have a serious question. I will be buying a 2018 to 2020 Regal TourX wagon (still looking) and I would love to put in the GX instrument cluster. Does that involve a lot of recalibration, or can it just plug-in? This instrument cluster is standard equipment or at least available on the TourX in England and Australia by the way.
From what I understand, the company we got it from has it set up so it was just plugged in and it worked, we didn’t have to calibrate anything thankfully.
Looked like a humid day, after some rain. humidity increases combustion duration - same effect as retarding ignition timing. Also cooler temperature reduces tire pressure - and water on the ground increases friction - so many factors go into reducing those 10ths of a second. Even the terrain can play a part - it may look flat, but you'd need a surveyor's compass to prove it :)
I wish I could say it was, but it was roughly the same temperature and dry out when this video was taken, tomorrow I will be making the video with upgraded cam and full e85 before we sell the car, it is supposed to be dry and 65 degrees so it should make for some excellent results
@@EGGINFOOLS trust me - I realize this every time I drive ours. It's "good" for what it is - a 3800lb wagon w/a 4 cyl. But small turbo engines are prone to every little variation - it's like driving a science experiment on wheels (always part fun, part frustration).
If I drive mine in manual mode it doesn't auto stop I believe. I'll spend some more time on it to make sure. 2019 Regal Tourx Essence bone stock, can't wait for some good ole zzp parts! Will all Regal 2.0 parts bolt on for the most part?
That is correct, in Manuel mode it will not stop start, and unfortunately no regal parts fit on this car, the Malibu downpipe from zzp is the only one that works. The intercooler kit had to be made custom using the zzp larger throttle body and extending the plug for it.
@@jacob8038 What is your current mpg with mods of your driving "normal". Mine combined is roughly 22. I run 93 octane and commute 50mi round trip daily, with 80% of that being highway.
On 93 I was getting 20-22 mpg city driving. And 30-32 might with the ac and 32-34 without the ac on the highway. Stock and tuned city was about the same. But tuned I got about 1-2 more mpg on the highway with both trifecta and zzp tune
Unfortunately it was sold a while back, it was set up with a cam having a larger fuel lobe to run full e85, that car was maxed out on the stock internals and turbo, it ran amazing well, although once it was sold the car was put to stock and soon had turbo issues, as well as the guy that put the parts on his regal lost the transmission not to long after, I think safely this car really shouldn’t be taken farther than just a tune, it’s really fun but I’m just not sure about longevity with the setup we had.
This is awesome , currently have a 19’ regal sportback , only thing I’ve done is put a new cold air intake into it, have been debating on the trifecta tune (car only has 30k miles) but a lot of positive reviews and feedback so I’m thinking I’m goin a do it now
@@saladdressing3896sorry haven’t been active on here , I have the k&n box at my house I can get the part number from and I should also of said it’s a short ram intake , not an enclosed air intake ,
From what I understand, the auto trans in hose cars is a little fragile, I personally wouldn’t go much farther than just a tune, but I would definitely get a second opinion because I have little experience with that vehicle.
You can use the ats one, you just have to make your own mount, the only downside is the pins are different, you have to get the pins for the Buick ecm. The pin location is the same as the ats though
@@justins8166 Who did the tune for the flex fuel after you installed? Is it supported by Trifecta, or did you have to go through someone else. If the camaro flex fuel kit is plug and play, I may be jumping on that rather quickly.
@@robertcargill8395 It is tuned by trifecta. The stock fuel system can only handle up to e50 so you will have to blend the fuel, which i got tired of doing. Zzp recently came out with a stock profile cam with larger fuel lobe, I just had that installed so i should be able to run full e85 once i get a new tune revision. New videos will be up soon once tuning is finished.
I have a '19 TourX. Just installed the Trifecta Tune and it really makes a difference in power. People were mentioning gas mileage, before the tune I got about 22MPG and now 19.5 on an avg week. This is mostly rush hour traffic driving, a lot of stop and go. 91 octane gas, 93 is not available. Also where I'm at, from Oct - March the gas is oxygenated so gas mileage drops by about 3MPG.
the 19 and newer are much nicer. I have a white essence with all the extras and love it. I want to mod for less body roll and more power and throttle response. not sure what is really out there for it. I've been looking online and theres just not much out there. Any good info?
It was definitely one of the most comfortable and practical cars I’ve ever been in, not to mention with just the trifecta tune the car would walk all over our friends Pontiac G8, as well as disabling the auto stop which was a huge plus.
Not quite, your car is significantly lighter, as well as having a different transmission, this is an awd station wagon, in comparison to the stock times posted in another video, both tunes are a decent increase in performance.
i would never let zzp tune my ltg at all. They had a lot of tunes that had to be fixed by other tuners. im on a bad news racing tune. my 0 to 60 is under 6 seconds. im at almost 30 pounds of boost. Hit jerry up at bad news raceing. best tunes. i took the duels off and running a apexi n1 and a lot of other mods.
In my experience a street tune is just as good if not better then a dyno, a dyno does not make it a real tune, it is simply a tool, also these transmissions cannot be tuned. And yes it does make power after 5k the ltg makes good power into the 6000s. If you really need to see a dyno graph for one of these cars you can check out the trifecta website.
@@samueljackson2478 where are you finding aftermarket for this. i have 2019 and need some fixes for the body roll and some power mods. brakes could be better but theyre fine for street.
@@HonorableMrRagerI agree, where can you get aftermarket parts? I’ve been looking at the tourx and I wanted to eventually install some aftermarket stuff once I got ahold of one
Honestly for what it is I think it’s a bargain. You get a fuel efficient awd car with tons of tech and cargo room, and for only about 1500 dollars you can add nearly 60-100 hp. Not to mention it’s extremely comfortable to be in.
GX cluster in a TourX. I’d like to see how that was done!
It’s plug and play believe it or not.
That cluster is a nice upgrade! Which year GX is a direct fit?
I have a 2014 Regal GS with the LTG and Trifecta tune. Day and night difference between tune and stock. Tune is way better
Long shot question - Do you have links for the air intake, downpipe, and intercooler?
It looks like nothing has changed at ZZP over the years. Car looked like it ran better with the Trifecta tune and virtually stock than in this clip. Their tuning has always been VERY hit and miss, thanks to them back in the day for leaving my GTP’s PCM in programming mode and telling me (a young kid at the time that didn’t know any better) that it was okay to leave it that way.
*piston 3 joined Space X sooner after*
I have trifecta tune on my Regal T and really like it 2017. Will burn rubber forever at full throttle at a dead stop !.
Just bought a Regal TourX not gonna do this just yet but I'm interested in modding it in a couple of years
Flick it over to manual mode and it won't start stop.
A little annoying but it works.
The advantage tune is a great deal for what you get from trifecta. Thats still impressive for a tour x and zzp is a great company as well. I have a 16GS and a few minor things done with trifecta advantage tune. 100K miles being tuned problem free.
Do you think a 2019 regal sportback gs would be reliable?
Still going good tho even if you didn’t sound too impressed with performance. Mine here in NZ is badged as a Holden Commodore Calais V…same 4wd system and plastic clad bodywork, but powered by your caddy direct injected v6 (235kw…315hp) but with a 9sp auto. Supposed to do 6.7 to 100kph (62mph) and it feels all of that. Under rated cars…Pity we don’t get it here anymore. My 2019 I think is was one of the last
I have Trifecta on my tourx and like it !.
Same!
5:34 I have a serious question. I will be buying a 2018 to 2020 Regal TourX wagon (still looking) and I would love to put in the GX instrument cluster. Does that involve a lot of recalibration, or can it just plug-in? This instrument cluster is standard equipment or at least available on the TourX in England and Australia by the way.
From what I understand, the company we got it from has it set up so it was just plugged in and it worked, we didn’t have to calibrate anything thankfully.
Looked like a humid day, after some rain. humidity increases combustion duration - same effect as retarding ignition timing. Also cooler temperature reduces tire pressure - and water on the ground increases friction - so many factors go into reducing those 10ths of a second. Even the terrain can play a part - it may look flat, but you'd need a surveyor's compass to prove it :)
I wish I could say it was, but it was roughly the same temperature and dry out when this video was taken, tomorrow I will be making the video with upgraded cam and full e85 before we sell the car, it is supposed to be dry and 65 degrees so it should make for some excellent results
I think what was most disappointing was the stock car with just a base tune, was performing just as well as a custom tune with supporting mods
😅 please dude. Humidity will make a slight difference but the rest is bull. Its not a drag strip car. Its a high 14 sec car.
@@EGGINFOOLS trust me - I realize this every time I drive ours. It's "good" for what it is - a 3800lb wagon w/a 4 cyl. But small turbo engines are prone to every little variation - it's like driving a science experiment on wheels (always part fun, part frustration).
If I drive mine in manual mode it doesn't auto stop I believe. I'll spend some more time on it to make sure. 2019 Regal Tourx Essence bone stock, can't wait for some good ole zzp parts! Will all Regal 2.0 parts bolt on for the most part?
That is correct, in Manuel mode it will not stop start, and unfortunately no regal parts fit on this car, the Malibu downpipe from zzp is the only one that works. The intercooler kit had to be made custom using the zzp larger throttle body and extending the plug for it.
@@jacob8038 What is your current mpg with mods of your driving "normal". Mine combined is roughly 22. I run 93 octane and commute 50mi round trip daily, with 80% of that being highway.
Derek Holcomb with all the current mods on 93 with the tune he was getting 20-22 on the way to work and back at about 50% highway driving
On 93 I was getting 20-22 mpg city driving. And 30-32 might with the ac and 32-34 without the ac on the highway. Stock and tuned city was about the same. But tuned I got about 1-2 more mpg on the highway with both trifecta and zzp tune
Absolutely great content, keep up the great work!
Thank you!
Is the Tour X gone from the channel at this point? You really are the only person modding this cars and super informative.
Unfortunately it was sold a while back, it was set up with a cam having a larger fuel lobe to run full e85, that car was maxed out on the stock internals and turbo, it ran amazing well, although once it was sold the car was put to stock and soon had turbo issues, as well as the guy that put the parts on his regal lost the transmission not to long after, I think safely this car really shouldn’t be taken farther than just a tune, it’s really fun but I’m just not sure about longevity with the setup we had.
This is awesome , currently have a 19’ regal sportback , only thing I’ve done is put a new cold air intake into it, have been debating on the trifecta tune (car only has 30k miles) but a lot of positive reviews and feedback so I’m thinking I’m goin a do it now
Which intake/part number did you get for yours?
Also wondering what intake you got
@@saladdressing3896sorry haven’t been active on here , I have the k&n box at my house I can get the part number from and I should also of said it’s a short ram intake , not an enclosed air intake ,
Reminds me of a song. Money for nothing. Lol
I have a 15 Regal premium 2.0L turbo. what mods can I make that would be worth the money?
From what I understand, the auto trans in hose cars is a little fragile, I personally wouldn’t go much farther than just a tune, but I would definitely get a second opinion because I have little experience with that vehicle.
I don't understand the obsession with the start/stop system. It is pretty seamless. Flick it to manual to turn it off but why bother?
It’s mostly just a pain when trying to do performance tests
in addition your air conditioning cuts almost completely off when the engine cuts off. very annoying in the heat sitting at a light with no ac
@@HonorableMrRager letting off the break gently turns the engine back on so its not like your stuck without ac
I'm curious about the flex fuel set up. I have a 2018 TourX
You can use the ats one, you just have to make your own mount, the only downside is the pins are different, you have to get the pins for the Buick ecm. The pin location is the same as the ats though
I used the zzp kit for the camaro 2.0. It has the correct wiring you need since you don't have to remove the fuse box like you do in the ats.
@@justins8166 Who did the tune for the flex fuel after you installed? Is it supported by Trifecta, or did you have to go through someone else. If the camaro flex fuel kit is plug and play, I may be jumping on that rather quickly.
@@robertcargill8395 It is tuned by trifecta. The stock fuel system can only handle up to e50 so you will have to blend the fuel, which i got tired of doing. Zzp recently came out with a stock profile cam with larger fuel lobe, I just had that installed so i should be able to run full e85 once i get a new tune revision. New videos will be up soon once tuning is finished.
I have a '19 TourX. Just installed the Trifecta Tune and it really makes a difference in power. People were mentioning gas mileage, before the tune I got about 22MPG and now 19.5 on an avg week. This is mostly rush hour traffic driving, a lot of stop and go. 91 octane gas, 93 is not available. Also where I'm at, from Oct - March the gas is oxygenated so gas mileage drops by about 3MPG.
the 19 and newer are much nicer. I have a white essence with all the extras and love it. I want to mod for less body roll and more power and throttle response. not sure what is really out there for it. I've been looking online and theres just not much out there. Any good info?
@@HonorableMrRager what changed from 2018 to 2019? I wasnt aware
TourX is exactly the same 18-20
What’s the most powerful engine they sell in these?
@@edratliff They all had the same engine. 2.0L 250HP.
I am considering one of these in essence trim or a 2017 GS. Still on the fence
It was definitely one of the most comfortable and practical cars I’ve ever been in, not to mention with just the trifecta tune the car would walk all over our friends Pontiac G8, as well as disabling the auto stop which was a huge plus.
Freakin car is massive on the inside.
Im 6'8" and I bought the car for that fact.
Does the trifecta tune work on the Buick Regal Sportback as well?
It does, they have a specific tune for that car
I have no idea what's going on - GF has stock 2018 Tour X.
So it’s basically the same as base if not a touch slower.. I own a 2018 regal sportback and it’s faster than this
Not quite, your car is significantly lighter, as well as having a different transmission, this is an awd station wagon, in comparison to the stock times posted in another video, both tunes are a decent increase in performance.
Trifecta, there is no substitute for perfection.
Heat soak was why you were going slower and slower
Do these guys do a tune for the Buick verano with the same 2.0 turbo?
I’m not sure they advertise it on the site, but if you email them what you have I’m sure they might give it a shot.
any updates on running ethanol?
It picked up good power, we had to swap the cam to one with a larger fuel love to run full e though
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have you found a good way to eliminate the autostop feature?
Keep it on the manual mode lol
The best way we found was just with the trifecta tune, it makes the car drive much better and it permanently disabled the auto stop.
What year did they come manual in ?
Unfortunately the tourx was auto only, you could get the regular regal manual for several years though.
Can u give me the size of the intercooler u have?
The intercooler is a moshimoto j line intercooler. They have the dimensions on there website.
@@justins8166 thx 🙏
If you keep the steering wheel slightly turned either direction at a stop, it won't shut off
Unfortunately that didn’t work, my golf r worked like that but this car I can turn it as much as I’d like and it stayed off
Just pump the brake while coming to a stop
I want to do a rear wheel conversion and ls swap on of these one day..
Why would you change an awd car to a rwd? Any high performance car usually has awd as an upgrade.
Well I didn't know they offered awd... But I also want a stick. This is a dream that'll probably never happen just think itd be cool
Pop the hood first then start the car will disable start/stop. It's a pain but it works.
how did you even figure that out lol
i would never let zzp tune my ltg at all. They had a lot of tunes that had to be fixed by other tuners. im on a bad news racing tune. my 0 to 60 is under 6 seconds. im at almost 30 pounds of boost. Hit jerry up at bad news raceing. best tunes. i took the duels off and running a apexi n1 and a lot of other mods.
Needs to get on a Dyno and get a real tune....+ The shift points need to be dropped into the max powerband. This car does not make power past 5k.
In my experience a street tune is just as good if not better then a dyno, a dyno does not make it a real tune, it is simply a tool, also these transmissions cannot be tuned. And yes it does make power after 5k the ltg makes good power into the 6000s. If you really need to see a dyno graph for one of these cars you can check out the trifecta website.
The most underrated sleeper out right now and has good bolt-ons
I agree, the car is on e40 now and running over a second quicker to 60, new video coming soon
Hey man hold on to this car this will be a classic one day the value is there.
And what's crazy that you can get parts from any parts store for this car and the aftermarket parts are crazy available.
@@samueljackson2478 where are you finding aftermarket for this. i have 2019 and need some fixes for the body roll and some power mods. brakes could be better but theyre fine for street.
@@HonorableMrRagerI agree, where can you get aftermarket parts? I’ve been looking at the tourx and I wanted to eventually install some aftermarket stuff once I got ahold of one
What an absolute waste of money.
Hey now there’s no need to repeat what’s ur parents say about you…
Honestly for what it is I think it’s a bargain. You get a fuel efficient awd car with tons of tech and cargo room, and for only about 1500 dollars you can add nearly 60-100 hp. Not to mention it’s extremely comfortable to be in.
You have drive these regal in manual mode to actually get all it power. I had one so I know because I can run beside hemi 5.7 and mines was stock