Longsword techniques: Zwerchhau, absetzen, nachreissen

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  • Presentation of Johannes Lichtenauer's Kunst des Fechtens techniques by TSC (Gesellschaft Lichtenauers). Info about used swords is attached at the very end of the video.
    Zwerchhau with counters. Absetzen and its variations. Nachraissen and slices/schnitts.
    More info at gesellschaft-li...
    Anton Kohutovic, Martin Tibensky, Tomas Sirny

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  • @jft4820
    @jft4820 8 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I think my favorite part of this demonstration is how it shows the element that makes most martial arts effective: a parry & attack is 1 move, not 2.

    • @lancerd4934
      @lancerd4934 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      depends on whether you're using a system that emphasises single time or double time actions, and what you mean by effective. Single time fencing tends to be better offensively, double time is usually better defensively. Single time fencing also takes a lot more training and experience to use properly.

    • @nicopetri3533
      @nicopetri3533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lancerd4934 I think what he meant was that a parry is linked to a riposte. A good example is from table tennis (I used to play it before I started HEMA). We were tought that the strike starts with the end of the last strike. So even getting your bat back was regarded as a strike.
      So I guess you could say a parry is best tought with a riposte after it. So it is one fluid motion to get from parry to the riposte and not just a static block. The attack starts with a parry yone might say.
      And I don't say there is no time for static blocks, but parry riposte is more effective.

    • @dennit1221
      @dennit1221 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicopetri3533 if hema kids actually understood the old fencing masters, they would know that there are no blocks in actual fencing( not with weapons nor without weapons)... there is only the attack which has to be answerd indes with your own attack.
      only thing that can save you in a defensive way is actual fencing footwork (not the forward-backward shit olympic fencers do)
      have a good one :)

    • @sheogorath979
      @sheogorath979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dennit1221 Well, completely defensive parries do exist, but they're a desperation move and actively discouraged

  • @Chrominance87
    @Chrominance87 9 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    it's great to see people who are actually in decent physical shape to display the German tradition in free play like this, and with this much vigor. And to add to that,
    I have not yet seen anyone spar under the Italian system using the same tenacity and passion as these two.

    • @Kunstdesfechtens
      @Kunstdesfechtens 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Chrominance87 The Phoenix Society is based largely on Fiore and do very well in tournaments. Their founder placed 4th at Longpoint two years in a row.

    • @Chrominance87
      @Chrominance87 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's cool, in the end it's all just longsword to me.Kunstdesfechtens

    • @Kunstdesfechtens
      @Kunstdesfechtens 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chrominance87 Me too. I think "it's all just longsword to me" was the original lyric in the Billy Joel song "It's still rock n roll to me". Or it should have been. :)

    • @grailknight6794
      @grailknight6794 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kunstdesfechtens Richard Marsden is a beast 😁

    • @mygoodness2041
      @mygoodness2041 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is not free play

  • @danternas
    @danternas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    I always link this video when someone claims two handed swords are slow and bulky.

    • @user-rm3qj9mb2b
      @user-rm3qj9mb2b 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same.

    • @lancerd4934
      @lancerd4934 8 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      You mean like the commenter above complaining that this couldn't possible be realistic because the swords are too light to be "historical" lol

    • @user-rm3qj9mb2b
      @user-rm3qj9mb2b 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +lancer D I don't see that guy on top for my phone.

    • @danternas
      @danternas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Exactly, some people think World of Warcraft is a historical source.
      While we're on video games and fantasy I've realised that bows use agility and swords strength as their main state. The realistic way would be the opposite. Bows need strength and swords agility, primarily.

    • @watchcloak
      @watchcloak 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the one's these guys are using are nowhere near the weight and balance of a real medieval one.

  • @omgtkseth
    @omgtkseth 11 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Historical fencing is something beautiful. To see the reconstruction and/or interpretation of actual sword methods executed with such speed... they were impressive techniques! Popular media has never done something as amazing as this with swords!

  • @Shiresgammai
    @Shiresgammai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Splendid demonstration, gentlemen! You're by far the best historically oriented swordsmen I'm aware of!

  • @AutodromoF1
    @AutodromoF1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    This should be an Olympic sport. Not like fencing, but more full contact; with grappling, takedowns, etc. With modern protection, but ancient fighting techniques.

    • @pmurphy5948
      @pmurphy5948 7 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      HEMA for the Olympics? yeah I'm down

    • @0rang.utan.bananaman199
      @0rang.utan.bananaman199 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      BigBoysClimbOnBigRing look up dog brothers, they don’t do HEMA, but as a practitioner of FMA, I find their videos very entertaining and realistic.

    • @chickensandwich8808
      @chickensandwich8808 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm all for that too. Sadly the sport is respectively still in its infancy as far as regulation and standard practice, but I am honored and hyped to be a part of something that is being rediscovered. I would love to see HEMA have both sporting pursuits(i.e. similar to Kendo, Olympic Fencing, etc.) as well as its current experimental archeology pursuit.

    • @nobodyimportant4778
      @nobodyimportant4778 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Medieval knights were big on capturing and ransoming their foes. Imagine if they counted kidnapping holds like the thumb-knife grab as victories

    • @akumabakemono1447
      @akumabakemono1447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Why everybody is so obsessed with the Olympics? Look what they did to Judo: No thanks, keep HEMA what it is now, Olympics will ruin it.

  • @sam_barris
    @sam_barris 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I've never seen stesso tempo executed so well with longsword techniques (I'm sure that isn't the proper term for Liechtenauer, but it's the one I know). You guys are on point. Literally! :-)

  • @jasonslade6259
    @jasonslade6259 10 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    You can't put stuff like this in Movies, the fights would be over too fast. Heh

    • @EmperorLjas
      @EmperorLjas 10 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Keep in mind that a single wound of almost any kind was extremely rarely lethal by itself, so fights would naturally go on a bit longer than shown here.

    • @effigytormented
      @effigytormented 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      EmperorLjas Well immediately lethal anyway.

    • @joshridinger3407
      @joshridinger3407 10 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I disagree. This stuff would be perfect for heroes mowing down mooks. With fights between Big Damn Heroes and the Big Bad they could find some creative way of drawing it out without reverting to stale stage-fight/wire-fu bullshit (realistically-portrayed effective armor being a simple and easy choice).

    • @alexanderburger3399
      @alexanderburger3399 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It could fit in fantasy films like the lord of the rings where everyone is just slaying hordes of enemies. Why not giving these "fights" a little more impressing techniques like this, rather than simply cutting down those obviously helpless orcs?

    • @effigytormented
      @effigytormented 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Alexander Bürger While some of these techs will work in the melee, the truth is in battle you cut it down to the barest tactics and use group work more.

  • @FreiFechterGilde
    @FreiFechterGilde 10 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    That's probably, one of the best, or ever the best techniques video. Great job!

  • @TE4MTIGER
    @TE4MTIGER 10 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Holy shit, the speed these guys move at

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yep, their speed as same as Kendo masters (note, kendo use bamboo sword, not metal sword). Not slugging like Hollywood movies.

    • @levifontaine8186
      @levifontaine8186 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. I do this martial art as well and we can move quite fast.

    • @MW-lw5mn
      @MW-lw5mn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well if you train your choreography long enough...^^ (At the end you also need some "reduced" swords/blades, to handle it like that)

    • @frenchgalloglass5204
      @frenchgalloglass5204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MW-lw5mn what is a "reduced" sword ?

    • @MW-lw5mn
      @MW-lw5mn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frenchgalloglass5204 A longsword for training, with blades reduced in width and weight. At least that's how I heard it in German.

  • @odin2618
    @odin2618 9 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Apologize in advance for my use of profanity, however 3 questions if i may,
    the first : who the fuck are you guys?
    Second : where the fuck are you located ?
    Lastly: why the fuck aren't you in every major city ?

    • @AntonKohutovic
      @AntonKohutovic  9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Hi,
      1: we are Fencing guild in Trnava
      2: We live in Trnava, Slovakia, EU
      3: There are others more or less similar fencers in most major cities.

    • @REDWOLF5652
      @REDWOLF5652 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ***** hemaalliance.com/?page_id=686 the HEMA Alliance club finder is awesome. There are different types of Historical European Martial Arts schools around the world, with more starting up all the time with increasing interest in our arts. I hope you find one close by you, if you're interested :)

    • @gurkfisk89
      @gurkfisk89 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ***** I agree, the only vital skills in todays society are learned by playing hockey.

    • @thossi09
      @thossi09 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Frederick Hardy Being physically active is always handy. Obviously, learning a sellable skill (like plumbing or electrician) is well more handy than participating in a sport.

    • @bossbroshd7980
      @bossbroshd7980 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Anton Kohutovič Could you tell me the brand on the swords? I'm looking to get into hema and am wondering what sword to get? Thanks

  • @tarkajedi3331
    @tarkajedi3331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anton is the best sword fighter in the world. This guy needs to design lightsabre fights!!!!!!

  • @UrbanCohort
    @UrbanCohort 11 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    From my limited experience, longsword feels surprisingly like one of those (so-called) "soft-hard" styles that you find in the kungfu styles (like white crane, hun gar, etc.)...
    There are hard strikes for sure, but at least half of it is sensing through the bind. Maybe I'm not articulating the thought very clearly, but my point is that longswords are far more complete weapons than they're portrayed as, and longsword fencing is far more 'delicate' than it seems on the surface.

    • @augustprice7550
      @augustprice7550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Urban Cohort some of those strikes from the bind come super fast it’s one of the cool things about the longsword is the torque you can create is incredible.

    • @narusawa74
      @narusawa74 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're right and it stems from the dual use of the weapon as a shielding device too. Receive/ shield/ bind then unfold to the strike. 2 edges to strike with double the fun!
      If your brain compute it naturally you should really start training HEMA. You'll love it👊

  • @Surielis
    @Surielis 10 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    STUNNING sword work!

    • @billtheswordguy5914
      @billtheswordguy5914 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree. Very few mistakes.

    • @ChessdumyTV
      @ChessdumyTV 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bill the sword guy If any :o. They probably spent lots of time trying to do each swing correctly, until they had a very clean technique demonstration.

    • @RuerlKhan
      @RuerlKhan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ***** Likely correct, but regardless of this its a clear demonstration of them being bloody good.

    • @ChessdumyTV
      @ChessdumyTV 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lars L Yep!

  • @lutemake3
    @lutemake3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13 years on, still one of my favorite longsword videos...

  • @MrCappanera
    @MrCappanera 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely amazing performance: clean fence tecnique and not only ''tutorial moves'' but realistic way of duelling.Two, three second and it's gone. Excellent skills, I really appreciate!

  • @ItsJustN8
    @ItsJustN8 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Great demonstrations! And that Witcher music, too. Unf!

  • @GregTom2
    @GregTom2 10 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Please holywood. Take note.
    I'm looking at you games of thrones. I know you can do it!
    Also this makes me realise how fucking brutal and terrifying an actual duel must have felt. These are not kids playing at fight. It's a man who will kill you as effectivelly as he can.
    Also: 1:53. Who needs special fx.

    • @TheDJPattyP
      @TheDJPattyP 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Game of thrones yes it looks like kids fighting but ..... they have armor these methods are designed for people with out armor to cut them nothing like game of thrones in there they are armored so setting up a hit can take more time especially as some one keeps charging at you. Although in game of thrones half of what they say is bullshit about fighting. Anyway take it or leave it there's the truth ( I do sword fighting myself and teach it) :)

    • @GregTom2
      @GregTom2 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What I meant wasn't the techniques per say, as much as the actual brutality and speed of combat.

    • @boleth651
      @boleth651 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed. That with some proper build up, blood and make-up would be pretty damn noticeable in a film. I'm surprised it's hardly been done, considering how much love samurai-flicks have gotten all over the world. Other then The Duellists (1977) I'm hard pressed to think of a good film featuring even remotely realistic European fencing. Though, I remember being thoroughly entertained by Bessons Joan of Arc (1999), realistic or not.

    • @TheMasturCheef
      @TheMasturCheef 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bo Leth
      How about Alatriste and Rob Roy? I haven't seen The Duellists but these two are mostly not bad in terms of realistic fights.

    • @IronRooRoo
      @IronRooRoo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Patryk Pospiech You can do cartwheels and what not in full plate. It's lighter than a modern soldier's kit. It's tailored to each individual person. It's range of movement is greater than the human body itself.
      Stop with the misconception that plate armour restricted movement, because it didn't. If you're a sword fighting trainer, you should know this.

  • @4youp
    @4youp 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently started taking lessons in the medieval style of sword fighting with a longsword too and it is freaking awesome to learn and to do. Looking at this really makes me want to learn more, thank you for showing us this, it was amazing!

  • @freeze337
    @freeze337 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i respect the commitment to do the moves full speed and give eachother concussions

  • @CT3089
    @CT3089 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Skill level over 9000

  • @PatD17th
    @PatD17th 9 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    witcher music.

  • @DobryNapad
    @DobryNapad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still one of my the most favourite fencing videos! I hope you will make some new like this...

  • @tobytoxd
    @tobytoxd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, amazing action! So fast, agile and precise. Love it!

  • @Simbad961
    @Simbad961 8 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    0:34 a spark?

    • @user-rm3qj9mb2b
      @user-rm3qj9mb2b 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the clashing helped cause friction and made some sparks.

    • @Simbad961
      @Simbad961 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hiraeth Ephemral Yeah I know how sparks are made just U don't see them very often... At least I dont but hey Im watching this on youtube

    • @ahhaboom
      @ahhaboom 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really late, BUT it can also come from the oil used to lubricate and protect the blades

    • @SwordTune
      @SwordTune 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ahhaboom
      Yeah, but I've had my blades make sparks without oil.

    • @CoffeeSnep
      @CoffeeSnep 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ahhaboom You haven't even BEGUN to understand late...

  • @gargarbad6047
    @gargarbad6047 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My first reaction..
    Fuck! That was awesome!
    If only I have any place to train that in my city..

    • @b19931228
      @b19931228 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try the HEMA club finder: www.hemaalliance.com/club-finders/
      If you're out of luck, there is always the possibility to pick up a source material, a couple of synthetic weapons from quality manufacturers and train away with your buddies.

  • @트샥
    @트샥 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think this video is just the right one to show someone who is not familiar with HEMA how Longsword works.

  • @stephendelacruzone
    @stephendelacruzone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Badass the two of you! 👍 The execution of technique and form is flawless! You guys look like professionals. 👑✨👌

  • @WritingFighter
    @WritingFighter 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I respect the German treatises now.

    • @DwarfElvishDiplomacy
      @DwarfElvishDiplomacy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      you didnt at some point ?

    • @WritingFighter
      @WritingFighter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@DwarfElvishDiplomacy
      One reason I never did was due to the needless complexity in learning, and thus making it harder to master and keep up with.
      From the Italian side, I was taught that crossing your arms invited wrestling/grappling and was very weak; I was told it was a very foolish thing to do; never cross your legs and rarely ever cross your arms. Angling down your blade from on high was flimsy and weak, and so crossing your arms while angling the blade down was, to me, 100% pointless and stupid.
      The early demonstrations I got from a German teacher visiting us was slow and methodical, and as he the presenter shifted and changed to show us some basics, my instructor at the time gradually reflected defensively with Fiore's postas, making the German swordsman look awkward and hilariously complex. Further, our instructor shows us counters and pointed out in context the German manuscripts were of little use to us, and our visitor seemed a bit dumbfounded with no counter discussion.
      His only response was that there "was still a lot to be learned".
      I carried that first impression with me for many years. Eventually I loosened up and began looking into other martial arts around the world with less bias and came back to HEMA.
      This video demonstrates the German approach better at full speed. Complex it may be, but its foundation handles exploitation of timing, distance, and facing much more efficiently and gracefully.

    • @WritingFighter
      @WritingFighter ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AR-GuidesAndMore Looking back I don't think he meant that kind of offense, only that he was a master of the Italian practices at the time and one of the only-known better men available with a study in the German manuscripts was not, IMO, a man with a sense for instruction and teaching. He might've also been trying to provoke some discussion about the differences on purpose, just to share that there were different approaches to martial arts, even HEMA so close together on the same continent, and the visitor was simply unprepared. It could've also been my POV observation was intaking things from a personal bias. Our instructor was a very soft-spoken gentleman.
      This instance was, the time of this comment, about 20 years ago. So maybe over the course of time things had developed and knowledge/experience gained from interpreting the treatises? I am not sure. I just know I can pick out German influences with some users when I observe or engage sparring, with a bit of respect and fear, now, with relative frequency.

  • @Xykaru
    @Xykaru 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Believe it or not most combat weapons are extremely lightweight. Video games have been lying to you.

  • @Drunkenvash
    @Drunkenvash 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watch this video over and over again. Probably 50x now. Especially at 1:44.

  • @cornvp
    @cornvp 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very blown away by how efficient the sword work is, bravo!

  • @joaopianezzola
    @joaopianezzola 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1:53 - have I seen sparks?

  • @Bryntwulf
    @Bryntwulf 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    At ~1:55, you can SEE the sparks flying off the swords when they clash. I always thought that that was fake and wouldnt happen in an actual sword clash. O.O

    • @reitmann800
      @reitmann800 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Makes sense because the sword's material and the speed that they are moving is enough to produce enough friction to make some sparks.

    • @reitmann800
      @reitmann800 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ***** Does not require sharp tip for friction.

    • @kaizen5023
      @kaizen5023 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sparks from swords happen all the time when you are striking with intent. It's pretty cool, as well as the sound. Sharps just notch up more but I think they would still spark from all the sliding. I believe it depends on the metal combo too when when you're high carbon against high carbon non-stainless steel, sparks do happen.

    • @londiniumarmoury7037
      @londiniumarmoury7037 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      KyoBladezen if any of you have a spare old high carbon steel sword properly tempered and gardens that you don't really care about, take it outside and hit the concrete with a medium swooping strike so the tips flat glides along the ground, you will see tons of sparks, do it at night time I've got a few blades I don't care much about and I swipe them over the concrete sometimes, it gets addictive I think I have a problem, its just nice to see the sparks erupt from the slash arch at night.

    • @mikem9001
      @mikem9001 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will never let you join the fire brigade! ;o) Seriously though, that is very interesting, thank you.

  • @edterlep
    @edterlep 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely a good resource for actual fights with swords. Glad I found this.

  • @tiamat9989
    @tiamat9989 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice, I really like how you guys do the drills as though you were in the middle of sparring with the ready footwork and feints. Definitely adds a bit of realism to it!
    Great job!

  • @blindgourmet9199
    @blindgourmet9199 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    \[T]/ Praise the sun! \[T]/

  • @willlatino
    @willlatino 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    awesome sparring!! I would love to learn this fencing. I have done Kenjutsu and other arts related to weapons, but this have fascinated me. do you anyone in the U.S. that teach such fighting combat? thanks

    • @billtheswordguy5914
      @billtheswordguy5914 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Come to the Armoured Company of the Sword. Or a thousand others "nearly" as good.

    • @Cosmoline
      @Cosmoline 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are hundreds of HEMA oriented sword classes in the US now. Even Anchorage has a bunch. Google your area and I'm sure you'll find some.

  • @SeregonWolf
    @SeregonWolf 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    It' nice to see some serious adepts of the mediaval swordsmanship, among all those on youtube just dancing ad jumping with sword (or even wooden sticks).
    This is tecnique. This is the REAL mediaval swordsmanship study.

  • @frothbyte
    @frothbyte 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never knew longswords could move that fast. Very impressive. Now I want to start learning as well.

  • @venza2524
    @venza2524 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Music at the end of the video, what's that? Exactly like Witcher's soundtrack, such a beautiful singing imo.

    • @Stryker2203
      @Stryker2203 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Venza it is the witcher soundtrack

  • @duylai2224
    @duylai2224 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And here i am , believing only katana user can be this fast, i am enlightened......

    • @levifontaine8186
      @levifontaine8186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Katana is actually a bit awkward to use compared to a longsword.

    • @Lftarded
      @Lftarded ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@AR-GuidesAndMoredepends, hard to be nimble with a katana because of the forward weight

  • @ichnichtdu5615
    @ichnichtdu5615 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, never thought this fights were so insane fast and precise, great vid

  • @tsulluos4631
    @tsulluos4631 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coming from strictly a Japanese swordsmanship background, this is unlike anything I've ever seen. Finally! Actual swordsmanship and not two guys in their backyard wailing on each other. Most impressive.

  • @AnnaTheFallMaiden
    @AnnaTheFallMaiden 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    holy shit, theyre so fast

  • @goquPL
    @goquPL 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WIEDZIAŁEM że kiedyś wpadnę na muzykę z Wiedźmina :D cieszę się że utożsamia się ten tytuł z mistrzowskim fechtunkiem :) w skrócie - music from the Witcher yeyea..! How can I get a longsword like this?

  • @ACTdirector
    @ACTdirector 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is very very good. Thank you very much for sharing , there is much to learn from this. I applaud you for testing your skill in this manner, and while this is not sparring (nor was intended to be, clearly) the level of skill displayed and the risks you guys are taking to test drive the techniques is inspiring. Much respect and thanks again.

  • @Semiotichazey
    @Semiotichazey 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't comment on the authenticity, but that was some great energy and clearly visible technique. Bravo!

    • @SirKickz
      @SirKickz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Semiotichazey It's authentic. It's based on medieval fighting manuals. These particular techniques are from the Lichtenauer tradition of German longsword.

    • @thikieuoanhle1865
      @thikieuoanhle1865 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Graidon Mabson more like interpretations

  • @MrKirby2367
    @MrKirby2367 10 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Goddamn hollywood has a lot to answer for. Crash crash bang bang hollywood sword fights suck.

    • @TheMasturCheef
      @TheMasturCheef 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The problem is that if you put something like this in a movie you can't see what's happening. It's simply too fast if you are not ver well trained in sword fighting yourself.
      And after all, the point of a movie is to *see* something :P
      Of course, lots of movies are really bad in this regard. But I think a lot of them actually make some good compromise. After all a movie is not reality. It's a distorted, interpreted projection of reality that should also be fun to watch (without slowmos, those are so ugly).

    • @cielopachirisu929
      @cielopachirisu929 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +TheMasturCheef But by putting in realism, they can impress us into enjoying it. Most directors, particularly of Medieval European stuff, barely even try :(.
      I mean, Star Wars for one example is pretty fast. Martially practical, maybe, maybe not, but fast and enjoyable to watch. Can the same not be done with conventional swords?

    • @cielopachirisu929
      @cielopachirisu929 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Natasel I suppose that's true. Even so, there's been at least a few pieces of media that did it pretty well. There's that one 100 Years War anime that came out recently, the Virgin Witch or whatever. Even Skallagrim praises that.

    • @cielopachirisu929
      @cielopachirisu929 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Natasel I suppose, but remember, I'm only talking about media in general. Animation still counts.
      Even so though, I think something of this sort could be at least attempted in live action.

    • @cielopachirisu929
      @cielopachirisu929 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Natasel Like I said, I see your point. But I'd really like to see somebody try at least. There's too few of those attempts that go without reaching into audacity.

  • @MaxWCorrea
    @MaxWCorrea 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so FKN'G cool!!!

  • @darthnether2732
    @darthnether2732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You deserve every view you have. Best Longsword demo on TH-cam (still).

  • @lio88jian
    @lio88jian 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, your group is an inspiration. In my humble opinion, yours is the best demonstration of longsword technique on youtube!

  • @AntonKohutovic
    @AntonKohutovic  12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @kobuksonhwacha Hi, I have no problem with discussion where people listen each other and don't accept others opinion blindly. The world of martial arts with cold weapons (wester or eastern) is full of myths. It's time to put them away. It's 21th century.
    I would like to see more relevat videos too. Easter and western. Not only theoretical demostrations, slowmotion interpretations or katas without partner.

    • @MaNoTachi
      @MaNoTachi 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anton Kohutovič can you please give me references for the helmets worn in this vidéo?
      Im looking for the same

  • @pirotess2
    @pirotess2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When these Medieval European Martial Arts spread out to Asia? I so boring with Chinese-in-disgust Vietnamese "tradition" martial arts here :(.

    • @KnightedDawn
      @KnightedDawn 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There are a few clubs in Asia (though admittedly they're spread pretty far apart). www.communitywalk.com/map/index/915490

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thi Kieu Oanh Le
      I don't need to go there in digital era, show me your video then.
      And hope you don't show me Vietnamese swordfighting with Chinese sword.

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Thi Kieu Oanh Le ha ha, you fear to show your Chinese-copy sword dancing like crap to the world, right? That why Vietnamese martial arts just be known as Chinese martial arts's shadow. Now, prove it your Vietnamese sword fighting is superior than Medieval European Sword Arts with video or nothing. Anyway, which tyle of Vietnamese sword fighting you want to prove?
      Like this one?
      watch?v=f4jZdXzYNx0 ?
      If not, then give anyone your video of sword fighting to prove that Vietnamese Sword Fighting is superior than the bullshit in this video.

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thi Kieu Oanh Le
      ha ha, just a wall of text without any evidence by video of your superior Vietnamese sword fighting. Just bunch of theories of Chinese Martial Arts and Chinese weapons name lolz.
      Vietnamese has proverbs "One hundreds of hear is nothing to compare to one time see it" . Right? You can talk billion times, but nothing for everyones to see, you're just failure, got it.
      Want to prove that your Vietnamese with Chinese swords fighting is superior than this? Stop talking, give me your video of your martial arts, also name your school, or it will never happen and never prove it except from your big mouth, because with any mouth, every martial art of their will be the best martial art in the world and can beat other martial arts easily in one seconds lolz. Or, you just don't have any videos to prove it? Right, ha ha.

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thi Kieu Oanh Le
      yeah yeah, still avoid to prove your evidence, because you have no evidence, just admit it.
      Oh, when I look up to Vietnamese history, post Le Loi era, Vietnamese master archery and firearm, up to Tay Son Dynasty, they able to build 50~66 cannon ships and master of sails v.v.... But not used your Chinese sword to slash cavalry, because they use halberd to hook riders down instead slash the horses, halberds become famous in Vietnames history and even has a dance for it, called "Bat Dat dance".
      And, still where your video of Vietnamese sword fighting arts? Still can't googling it to give it to here?

  • @toxi87
    @toxi87 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope that this style catches on enough to get schools in a wider scope, i'd love o learn this.

  • @michaelanthonypagsibigan3811
    @michaelanthonypagsibigan3811 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    The techniques of the German mercenaries... such tenacity! I am excited to teach this to my students.

  • @MarkusRamikin
    @MarkusRamikin 8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Who else here from Quora?

  • @ernestorodriguez3637
    @ernestorodriguez3637 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    bad ass!

  • @sluggy6074
    @sluggy6074 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is what duels are supposed to look like. By historical accounts a duel would be over seconds after it begins with only one or two swings at most (if a point hasnt been scored in two swings usually its cause they're both not very experienced). Crazy this was 12 years old and still much better than 90% of other German longsword practitioners who take turns striking each others swords and moving back and forth which is good if youre using a sabre where you have to go back and forth between offense and defense but dedicating a longsword to defense in any situation is a losing proposition. When your opponent swings and your response is to attempt to block it your opponent has a chance to score against you, and you have no chance to score against him unless you first succesfully block and then successfully counter. In longsword your attack is your strongest parry.

  • @HexStickman
    @HexStickman 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant looking! You both are so quick and agile.

  • @TurkOglu1990
    @TurkOglu1990 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    witchers? nice wich school? xD
    nice btw awsome

  • @jordybouter2771
    @jordybouter2771 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy crap these guys are fast! Practitioner of HEMA myself and I find it amazing that they perform the techniques with such control and speed..

  • @gregoryrogalsky6937
    @gregoryrogalsky6937 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work from you both. Thanks for sharing .

  • @LotlBotl
    @LotlBotl 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first time i see someone perform a Zwerchhau that does actually work...

  • @Emberstrife
    @Emberstrife 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the reply! Against unarmored and/or insufficiently trained opponents, the speed and lethality of these moves look terrifying.

  • @SnowlandX
    @SnowlandX 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this. You can literally see the sparks coming off of the swords :)

  • @ChiefRunningWall
    @ChiefRunningWall 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's this? A civil conversation on youtube that lasts for more than two comments? Amazing!
    Subbed for good community. And an awesome video, mate :)

  • @AntonKohutovic
    @AntonKohutovic  14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @dzoony Ahoj, vdaka. Mne osobne sa paci viac to zornhawove. Nejake vyhrady k nachraissen?

  • @leroilapue15
    @leroilapue15 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    its nice to see a revival of these lost arts

  • @juanpablogonzalez8528
    @juanpablogonzalez8528 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i was just looking for some videos to use as reference for my animation project. This was just perfect, thanks guys, it's gonna help a lot. Also some amazing skills there, you must work a lot for this

  • @user-nk4qz2bs9i
    @user-nk4qz2bs9i 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dankeschön. Sehr nützliche Beispielen.

  • @gurkfisk89
    @gurkfisk89 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are right on the spot, these are presentations of how it should work. But the fact that you ask the question tells me that this is a rather convincing presentations. =)

  • @Veilliron
    @Veilliron 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice, great speed and still impressive control of the blades. Looking forward to the next videos!

  • @jakewolf079
    @jakewolf079 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It takes a lot a practice and strength to use a Longsword properly
    but once learned, It's extremely powerful

  • @nektariosliakis5999
    @nektariosliakis5999 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best video demonstrating these techniques

  • @Top_Layne
    @Top_Layne 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @KillaRiku, it looks liek a demonstration of the techniques illustrated in fechtbuchs, if you watch closely they are demonstrating counter blows, and as it progresses it shows how to react to the counter before. The first is straightforward, the second adds an offside shot, the third blocks and counters the offside, etc. Excellent work indeed. A duel between these two would be something to see.

  • @specopwotan6879
    @specopwotan6879 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    this a flawless technik. I will train and watch. Again and Again! thanks for making those vids!

  • @Croopskate
    @Croopskate 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a compliment!
    these are over 2kg, heavier than your average longsword.
    you just told these "kiddies" they make the swords they wield (and wield with skill I might add) look light.
    I agree, both these guys have strong arms. I personally use an Oakeshott XVIIIb 1400mm with 1.65kg and a pob of 8cm. And I love it!
    "Jung ritter lere Got lieb haben frauwen io ere"

  • @weldorn
    @weldorn 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm surprised to see such a large community of Zweihänderfans on youtube. Love it guys

  • @ChessdumyTV
    @ChessdumyTV 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dang those techniques are so brutal, especially the first one, the zwerch. That strike will take out any novice swordfighter, and its so easy to do.

  • @swordandshield
    @swordandshield 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very impressive.
    Great work and thanks for sharing.
    Roland

  • @michaelanthonypagsibigan3811
    @michaelanthonypagsibigan3811 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you guys look closely between 0:33 and 0:35 seconds, they caused the swords to spark. That is training and sparring in such a way, it makes me love HEMA even more.

  • @LostInMySelf1
    @LostInMySelf1 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    eure kampfkunst ist wirglich beeindruckent....

  • @AntonKohutovic
    @AntonKohutovic  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @EvilxMerlin With longsword? Could you please quote the text where he mentioned attacks to legs form his Zedel? Maybe I don't remeber it correctly.

  • @ulf123456
    @ulf123456 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everet: that went fast. Virgil cole: yeah everyone could shoot.
    Great movie guys truly epic swordplay

  • @katanamaru1
    @katanamaru1 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys have very intense drilling sessions. Awesome to view.

  • @wotanderwilde
    @wotanderwilde 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Meister Lichtenauer wäre stolz!

  • @wolfmaster555
    @wolfmaster555 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your vids. You guys give great insight into how longsword play work

  • @ninjamentz
    @ninjamentz 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very good demonstration and video of langschwert fencing. The moves are accurate and well practiced, solid hits too. Nice choice of witcher music also! Hope we had schools like yours here....it's good at least some Europeans respect, remember and admire their ancestors heritage.Keep it that way!

  • @Kunstdesfechtens
    @Kunstdesfechtens 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video, Kohutovic. Inspirational. I make a point of forwarding your videos to my club's members so that we can be reminded of appropriate intensity. Keep up the good work!

  • @hotspurschool
    @hotspurschool 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic technique, footwork, intent! Superb!

  • @DerSpartaner
    @DerSpartaner 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always the same discussion about Katana and Longsword X-D. Guys, take fencing masks and spar with each other and you´ll know for yourself what advantages and disadvantages both weapons have.
    And to kohutovic:
    I´m pleased and impressed you show true martial arts. It looks skilled, fast, powerful and you both definatly know what you are doing.
    All the best wishes from Germany and my Sparring Group:
    You are welcome for a friendly bout.
    Ask Zukuru, for more information, we would be honored.

  • @jakewolf079
    @jakewolf079 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    it would be great to see them meet ARMA
    both are one of the best swordsmanship school these days

  • @michealhoffstater9810
    @michealhoffstater9810 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus, you two have very much earned a sub from me. Damn fine speed, I almost thought to ask if those swords are unusually light for longswords.

  • @EgholmViking
    @EgholmViking 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    .... i was literally gawking at the end of this vid.. i have long wondered if the other vids around who are in slower pace would still work when speed up to actual fighting speed and damn it seems it does thank you very much :D

  • @AntonKohutovic
    @AntonKohutovic  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Beckettlol Thank you very much. We use sport fencing mask with our caps which were influenced by kendo men (see in the next video). I woul like to see long term comparison of these style too. I had some bouts with kendo guys, but it was not a serious comparison. We used shinais and as you see these techniques shown in video cannot be done with short shinais whitout crossguards.

  • @MrSoundSeeker
    @MrSoundSeeker 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, this is truly great. Cheers from Poland!

  • @Adamcadabra91
    @Adamcadabra91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just don't understand how, in the heat of the match, one can see and recognize what strike the opponent is throwing and go through their mental library and counter it with the correct move. Takes some insane skill and talent to do it. I wish I could be only a quarter as good as these professionals.

    • @x-rhoden-x6477
      @x-rhoden-x6477 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you've seen HEMA tournaments a lot of it is distance, timing and adjusting stance to match the opponent's stance.
      Competent HEMA tournament fighters rarely ever "react" and bring their sword to block the opponent, rather they solve the problem by having their blade already in a very favourable position for a defense.
      Obviously Anton is the world's greatest swordsman and has amazing reflexes and can react, but the need to "react" is taken away when you are already in a good stance with blade ready to intercept the opponent's line of attack.

    • @Adamcadabra91
      @Adamcadabra91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      X-RHODEN-X very interesting insight, thank you for the reply!

  • @Thaulopi
    @Thaulopi 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I admire your technique. Ein Streiter in Ehren euch grüßet Brüder, Seid Zorn, seid Klinge. Perfekt!

  • @lukeduncan5486
    @lukeduncan5486 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Longtime with no new videos, i have been reading your articles and watching your fights in Swordfish etc and i really like your current aggressive style. And given the views on this and your other technique based video i think a new video would go long way to promoting HEMA world wide.