Hollywood would be not against having something like that in the movie; but it would take too much resources, expertice from actors and elements of uncertainty to production in cases where leading actor is damaged by trauma during fencing (they can't be using proper amount of protection in film - viewers need to see actors' faces usually).
@@christopherbartlett8100 now im wondering what you call "heavy" or if the balancing is just wrong in yours because mine feels fine, Its that or i just prefer a heavier blade.
@@ElricWilliam the consensus is that the cold steel smallsword is on the heavy side although I've heard people say there are extant examples of that weight, but most historical smallswords are much lighter.
This is a fight. An elegant fight but a fight. They seem to be fencing/training/sparring as if the weapons were sharp. With sharps, a duel, a mistake, over extension, loss of balance, missed parry etc. could be fatal, unlike "sport" fencing. The tempo, the care, the thought will naturally be slower. One doesn't throw one's body at the opponent hoping for a conclusive hit as you won't get another chance if you miss. Every once and a while my coach would pull out a sharp small sword as a reminder, "attack" he'd say .. seeing that sharp point in guard really focuses the mind. I love how the fencers here continue the fight after a failed attack as they should when in earnest.
Remarkable performance! The gentleman on the right appeared to be the master, but he gentleman onthe left had some excellent moves as well. Bravo to both!
Very well done. I am interested in the source material you study from. As a saberist, think I have a new respect for the smallsword. This video has inspired me to study more smallsword.
Vibe Void Smallswords are very small compared to rapier. Most people don't realize that rapiers would come up to chest or armpit level, when smallswords wouldn't usually clear the hip
An amazing and a truly inspiring job, comrades. Thank you very much, I am going to improve on my techniques and am hoping to reach at least somewhere near your level, with enough dilligence, indeed. Thank you very much again. Восхитительная работа, товарищи. Большое спасибо за всю проделанную работу. Надеюсь, глядя на вас, я научусь чему-нибудь. Возможно, при должном усердии, достигну если не вашего, то близкого к вашему уровня. Ещё раз спасибо.
cuando vi este vídeo me pareció estar viendo a dos maestros de la verdadera destreza. when I saw this video I found watching two masters of true skill.
One thing I notice about these fencers is that they seem to be wearing leather shoes which slip and slide ever so slightly on the floor. I imagine that if modern sport fencers we're forced to train without rubber-soled shoes, they would end up fighting exactly like this.
Nice Vid showing skill but it is sped up. You can see it was filmed slower. Might account for the soundtrack over it. (Their Hutton sabre is very clearly also sped up) Very beautiful type of fencing nonetheless.
Hi. Fencing at Hutton swords was really speed up a little due to the music. I'm one of the fencers. 😉 But this assaut is going on the real speed as it was.
In was not an agreement. Just that assaut shows very good when anybody has a good skill of basic fencing it is not necessary to use left hand too often. Very very limited.
I wonder what [smallsword] foils they're using. I'd love to find some foils that actually bear a remote resemblance to the weapon they're supposed to be imitating, for once. [EDIT: By "foil" I mean it as the term was originally used--a sword with a "foiled" point or blade for practice, and not a modern sport-fencing foil. :p]
Firstly, they are using blunt small swords. Secondly, the epee is the small sword , not the foil. The foil was only a practice weapon whilst the epee was and is the actual small sword.
I recently purchased some from Zen Warrior Armory. Not got them yet but there are some that are quite smallsword like. Mine is based on a late design, 19th century, and lacks the knucklebow or finger rings.
Toby Brewer But he was correct, foil was the practice weapon for the smallsword, all the rules of right of way and the only chest is valid came from the fact it was a training weapon and there wasn't a great deal of protective gear back then, so these rules were meant for safety in the begining, the chape evolved since then because of practical reasons. The epee is not a smallsword by any stretch of imagination, the epee was a weapon designed for sport, because some people thought that the rules of foil were idiot and we needed a more realistis aproach for sports, it was remotly based on it, but it was specificly made for sport fencing.
this might be a silly question, and feel free to point and laugh if it is but other than the sword length whats the difference between this and say rapier as they both look very similar to me.
Very beautiful, but not full speed. Those back and forth beautiful chains of attack and parries don't work full speed. In any case great technique and gorgeous to watch.
@@louisjolliet3369 I don't think you fence, they might not be using their feet as much as sport fencer, but these actions are very quick. This is fine fencing to aspire to and not at all slow.
@@christopherbartlett8100 Interesting because I do fence sport épée and based on your comment I seriously question if you fence as you claim. I cannot imagine a sport fencer, even an elder one, not finding this very slow. But that's perfectly fine. As I said they have beautiful technique and are a treat to watch. I think it is obvious though that the slow speed of their movement is what allows them to stay at range, use the bind extensively like that and have these great looking, long exchanges. If they were fencing full speed it would look much different. Not saying they can't and for the record, I would love to learn from them.
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This is truly excellent. You can tell it's not choreographed, yet it's some of the prettiest swordplay I've ever seen, and that includes Hollywood.
Hollywood would be not against having something like that in the movie; but it would take too much resources, expertice from actors and elements of uncertainty to production in cases where leading actor is damaged by trauma during fencing (they can't be using proper amount of protection in film - viewers need to see actors' faces usually).
I always come back to this video when I want to show people what smallsword fencing is. It's such a good example and I love it.
This is awesome, smallsword is hardly ever done well. You have inspired me to get a smallsword
Amazing skill from both fencer's. Truly shows how devastating a small sword can be.
One day I will have to buy one.
@Weedus I'd just stick to the normal Cold Steel Smallsword. The Colichemarde is alright but goes down to more of a "personal taste" kind of thing.
@@AgentSmith10011 no thank you, it's a sharp and it's heavy
@@christopherbartlett8100 now im wondering what you call "heavy" or if the balancing is just wrong in yours because mine feels fine, Its that or i just prefer a heavier blade.
@@ElricWilliam the consensus is that the cold steel smallsword is on the heavy side although I've heard people say there are extant examples of that weight, but most historical smallswords are much lighter.
@@christopherbartlett8100 considering new evidence, I think I just prefer the heavier blade.
This is a fight. An elegant fight but a fight. They seem to be fencing/training/sparring as if the weapons were sharp. With sharps, a duel, a mistake, over extension, loss of balance, missed parry etc. could be fatal, unlike "sport" fencing. The tempo, the care, the thought will naturally be slower. One doesn't throw one's body at the opponent hoping for a conclusive hit as you won't get another chance if you miss.
Every once and a while my coach would pull out a sharp small sword as a reminder, "attack" he'd say .. seeing that sharp point in guard really focuses the mind.
I love how the fencers here continue the fight after a failed attack as they should when in earnest.
Remarkable performance! The gentleman on the right appeared to be the master, but he gentleman onthe left had some excellent moves as well. Bravo to both!
Класс. Завораживает. Очень хочется в замедленной съемке посмотреть.
Попробуйте замедлить видео при просмотре. А лучше лично попробовать 🤗
Thank you for this, I think this has to be my favourite Smallsword video I've seen online.
Very well done. I am interested in the source material you study from. As a saberist, think I have a new respect for the smallsword. This video has inspired me to study more smallsword.
Vibe Void Smallswords are very small compared to rapier. Most people don't realize that rapiers would come up to chest or armpit level, when smallswords wouldn't usually clear the hip
I always come back to this video, Not just because of the rockin music but because of the genuine smallsword skill going on xD
Though I practise the Chinese Sabre, this is one of the best sword fighting videos that I've seen and gives me a new appreciation for the Smallsword.
This is some of the prettiest fencing I've ever seen.
Wow, wow and triple wow. This is the best form for smallsword freeplay I have seen. So clean and crisp. Do want! Haha. Well done gentlemen.
Just beautiful.
An amazing and a truly inspiring job, comrades. Thank you very much, I am going to improve on my techniques and am hoping to reach at least somewhere near your level, with enough dilligence, indeed. Thank you very much again.
Восхитительная работа, товарищи. Большое спасибо за всю проделанную работу. Надеюсь, глядя на вас, я научусь чему-нибудь. Возможно, при должном усердии, достигну если не вашего, то близкого к вашему уровня. Ещё раз спасибо.
Do you know how to contact the right guy?
@@Blutroth Who's "the right guy"?
@@Master...deBater I never found out, sorry
Very nice to watch, well done gentlemen.
Very nicely done.
Amazing skill!!
cuando vi este vídeo me pareció estar viendo a dos maestros de la verdadera destreza.
when I saw this video I found watching two masters of true skill.
Очень зрелищно!
One thing I notice about these fencers is that they seem to be wearing leather shoes which slip and slide ever so slightly on the floor. I imagine that if modern sport fencers we're forced to train without rubber-soled shoes, they would end up fighting exactly like this.
You guys need to make more smallsword videos. Pleeeaaassseeee.
This is inspiring and awesome!
My god, its beautiful
Exchange at 1:02 is excellent!
HEMA fencer today only dream of being this good.
Lol...these are HEMA fencers!
Very good Smallsword action, where did you buy those? Or if they arent able to buy, would a sport fencing foil with french grip work?
what treatise are you going off of? its a really beautiful fighting style i havent seen elsewhere
excellent!
Bloody beautiful swordsmanship! Love to know where they get their Plastrons,but i cant speak Polish!:-(
Nice Vid showing skill but it is sped up. You can see it was filmed slower. Might account for the soundtrack over it. (Their Hutton sabre is very clearly also sped up) Very beautiful type of fencing nonetheless.
Hi. Fencing at Hutton swords was really speed up a little due to the music. I'm one of the fencers. 😉 But this assaut is going on the real speed as it was.
@@user-ks7nb2jd6k Very impressive!
Very cool. Is the absence of wrestling/physical contact due to an agreement, or is it just bad tactics with the smallsword?
In was not an agreement. Just that assaut shows very good when anybody has a good skill of basic fencing it is not necessary to use left hand too often. Very very limited.
Does anyone know exactly what kind of smallsword these are?
Wow!
I wonder what [smallsword] foils they're using. I'd love to find some foils that actually bear a remote resemblance to the weapon they're supposed to be imitating, for once.
[EDIT: By "foil" I mean it as the term was originally used--a sword with a "foiled" point or blade for practice, and not a modern sport-fencing foil. :p]
Firstly, they are using blunt small swords. Secondly, the epee is the small sword , not the foil. The foil was only a practice weapon whilst the epee was and is the actual small sword.
I was, in fact, referring to them as practice weapons for training smallsword, but thanks anyways :)
das' ok :D
I recently purchased some from Zen Warrior Armory. Not got them yet but there are some that are quite smallsword like. Mine is based on a late design, 19th century, and lacks the knucklebow or finger rings.
Toby Brewer But he was correct, foil was the practice weapon for the smallsword, all the rules of right of way and the only chest is valid came from the fact it was a training weapon and there wasn't a great deal of protective gear back then, so these rules were meant for safety in the begining, the chape evolved since then because of practical reasons. The epee is not a smallsword by any stretch of imagination, the epee was a weapon designed for sport, because some people thought that the rules of foil were idiot and we needed a more realistis aproach for sports, it was remotly based on it, but it was specificly made for sport fencing.
wow
I want a lightsaber version of this vid.
Hey guys where do you buy those swords ?
this is russians, we made it outselves)
this might be a silly question, and feel free to point and laugh if it is but other than the sword length whats the difference between this and say rapier as they both look very similar to me.
Rapier still has cutting edges. Small sword is for thrusting only
@@jethrobradley7850Rapiers are also about 3X heavier than Smallswords.
22 222nd. Just in time.
Very beautiful, but not full speed. Those back and forth beautiful chains of attack and parries don't work full speed.
In any case great technique and gorgeous to watch.
I fence, these guys are really good. I don't understand what you are saying. Explain how it doesn't work? Youre watching it work.
@@christopherbartlett8100 It's all beautiful technique but they are going very slow.
@@louisjolliet3369 I don't think you fence, they might not be using their feet as much as sport fencer, but these actions are very quick. This is fine fencing to aspire to and not at all slow.
@@christopherbartlett8100 Interesting because I do fence sport épée and based on your comment I seriously question if you fence as you claim. I cannot imagine a sport fencer, even an elder one, not finding this very slow. But that's perfectly fine. As I said they have beautiful technique and are a treat to watch. I think it is obvious though that the slow speed of their movement is what allows them to stay at range, use the bind extensively like that and have these great looking, long exchanges. If they were fencing full speed it would look much different. Not saying they can't and for the record, I would love to learn from them.
@@louisjolliet3369 ill fence you right now. What state do you live in?
What manual did you use?
please
from XVII-XIX centuries)
Mostly Angelo and his famous treatise. Sorry for late response. 🤗
@@user-ks7nb2jd6kis that you in the video? Did you learn it just from the book by yourself or did you had any professional training ?
Loud and unnecessary music. Just leave the sound of the swords clanging!
seattwa Agreed