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  • @SuperCarlinBrothers
    @SuperCarlinBrothers  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2573

    What do you think? Is it a big Secret?

    • @problemsolver8
      @problemsolver8 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Give me a shout out @supercarlinbrothers are you guys watching justice league

    • @ryan_productions8737
      @ryan_productions8737 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yep

    • @courtney9237
      @courtney9237 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      SuperCarlinBrothers can you guys do a video on house of black and Greek mythology in Harry Potter also I love your videos

    • @jackmogelof4695
      @jackmogelof4695 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi

    • @MitzukiFinest
      @MitzukiFinest 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      SuperCarlinBrothers Hi, I'm new and have subscribed xP

  • @christianmcnally4323
    @christianmcnally4323 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2035

    Most Wizards use magical locks that cannot be undone with alohomora but since filch is a squib he needs regular locks in Hogwarts to be able to operate.

    • @MM-kq6fe
      @MM-kq6fe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      How comes I've never realised this? Thank you.

    • @oxeanpotter8845
      @oxeanpotter8845 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Try alohamora

    • @vikramc7977
      @vikramc7977 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Wow I'd never thought of it that way

    • @snuffybox
      @snuffybox 6 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Why would it matter if they were resistant to alohomora? Filch cant cast alohomora, and on top of that he cant pick locks either. To Filch all locks are the same. And he has the keys so whether they were resistant to alohomora or not is a moot point.

    • @good-questions
      @good-questions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      maybe it's because every lock that was ever opened, was opened usually by the main characters (surprise surprise); and that furthermore, they were led to do so by the machinations of dumbledore, in a series of, if you will, many miniature "wizard challenges" to guide harry, ron, and hermione to get ready for the time to come.

  • @JH-ng3hj
    @JH-ng3hj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3385

    I think it's simple. The first rule of the Sorting Hat is: No one talks about the Sorting Hat. The second rule of the Sorting Hat is: No one talks about the Sorting Hat.

    • @spyjonsachurin2101
      @spyjonsachurin2101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      Jeremiah H Well Potter has always shown a disregard for the rules. Snape had a point.

    • @AwArr0
      @AwArr0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      The first rule of fight club

    • @evelyn_r
      @evelyn_r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I thought rule two was “refer to rule one”...

    • @Mrcreeperdead
      @Mrcreeperdead 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      mr popo created the sorting hat

    • @williambesner4825
      @williambesner4825 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Well, someone's a rule breaker...well a few people actually and they not only broke one rule but two at once, for those of you unaware that's advanced level rule breaking and also a foul for mixing separate fandoms.

  • @ReCreso
    @ReCreso 6 ปีที่แล้ว +535

    Regarding Sirius's plan: perhaps he wanted to bait Voldemort into thinking that he was the Secret Keeper because if he killed him the Fidelius charm would have still worked? We know that if the Secret Keeper dies, everyone he told about the secret becomes a Secret Keeper, and that would have been quite an issue for the Potters; while if Voldemort had killed Sirius, the Fidelius charm would have been still intact and that would have at least bought the Potters some time.

    • @caitlinranck1534
      @caitlinranck1534 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Re Creso I think that’s exactly it, cause if he died then Voldemort could’ve tortured the information out of someone like Bathilda Bagshot

    • @thesoloplayer7685
      @thesoloplayer7685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, that's the thing, you got it man

    • @lahlybird895
      @lahlybird895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good point

    • @MumboJ
      @MumboJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wow, yeah that solves it. Until now I just thought it didn't make sense, but that explains it perfectly; if Voldemort kills the secret keeper then he only needs to turn one person who knows the location (Perhaps Snape? At the very least, Pettigrew).

    • @Fif0l
      @Fif0l 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Step 1: become the secret keeper
      Step 2: don't tell anybody.
      Works every time.

  • @MalloryAnnYahne
    @MalloryAnnYahne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    I’ve always wondered, when Arthur said “don’t trust something if you can’t see where it keeps it’s brain” would the hat be included in that. Is the sorting hat full of dark magic? Could be why it’s protected too?

    • @esqimo6647
      @esqimo6647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Molly says that, not Arthur. I think

    • @MalloryAnnYahne
      @MalloryAnnYahne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      esqimo It’s Arthur in the Chamber of Secrets.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Obviously, it's a Matter of Skill.
      Obviously (yes, i use that word twice; deal with it) you COULD
      conceal the Knowledge about Doorknobs IF you have
      way more Skill than Dumbledore and Voldemort TOGETHER.
      Get it?

    • @MalloryAnnYahne
      @MalloryAnnYahne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@slevinchannel7589 I don’t get it, mostly because I don’t see how your comment pertains to my comment at all, but go off. 😂

    • @sarahprescott1223
      @sarahprescott1223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      WHERE IS HIS BRAIN?

  • @raiyanrahman603
    @raiyanrahman603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2282

    The only thing that confuses me is the fact that Harry told Albus about the hat.

    • @kiyomiii1087
      @kiyomiii1087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      I think he mentions it near the end (Voldemort lit the Hat on fire on Neville’s head) and the charm was broken

    • @MiraSmit
      @MiraSmit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      @@kiyomiii1087 It might be an oversight on Rowling's part.

    • @kiyomiii1087
      @kiyomiii1087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Mira Smit true. I was just saying that Ben explains his theory in the video

    • @ajn5032
      @ajn5032 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      As soon as I saw this Vid I thought of it too

    • @Finkbird
      @Finkbird 5 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      (In the movie, not sure about the book) Doesn’t the hat tell Harry how he’s sorted? If the hat is it’s own secret keeper and he told Harry the secret, this allows Harry to tell his son. Right?

  • @composerbeef
    @composerbeef 5 ปีที่แล้ว +946

    Something that has bothered me about the fidelious charm, specifically the one used to hide the Potters is why they chose to make one of their friends the secret keeper in the first place. Would it not have made more sense to make James and/or Lily their own secret keepers and thus securing their safety; after all, Voldermort could hardly get the secret if the secret keepers were the ones protected by the charm.

    • @starnuoyi
      @starnuoyi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      I think the whole point of the Fidelius Charm is to have to trust someone else with your secret, because if you make yourself the Secret-Keeper, it would kind of negate the effect of the charm. The whole point is to HAVE to trust someone else, since that's where the chain's power lies, not in yourself but in the trust you have for other people. Does that make sense?? I kind of knew how to word my reply when I saw your comment, but it flew out of my head when I started typing lol. If I think of what else I wanted to say, I'll come back later, but interesting theory!!

    • @starnuoyi
      @starnuoyi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      *the charm whoops

    • @composerbeef
      @composerbeef 5 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      The problem with that explanation is that in Deathly Hallows Bill is the secret keeper for Shell Cottage where he and Fluer are living and Arthur is the secret keeper for Aunty Muriel's home where he and the rest of the Weasleys are living so there's no rule within the spell saying that the secret keeper has to be someone who doesn't reside at the hidden location.

    • @spyjonsachurin2101
      @spyjonsachurin2101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Maybe they just overthought it, and later Dumbledore is like “Oh wait... DUH!!!”

    • @chestercopperbottom
      @chestercopperbottom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@composerbeef I think you might be overlooking the metaphorical implications of the fidelius charm. Remember, Rowling (being the good classics student she is) named the fidelious charm after the latin word fidelus, which means something like faithful or true-hearted. By making Wormtail the secret keeper, Rowling was creating the possibility that he would never betray the Potters, even if he was weak. Of course, if Wormtail had never betrayed the Potters, the series could never had played out as it did, but the choice was still Wormtail's choice. This is true of Bill and Arthur as well: even though they are keeping their own secret, they are also protecting other people; they are being faithful when they could just protect their own skin. Personally, I think it was a brilliant move on Rowling's part to make Wormtail the secret keeper. It gave him a moral dilemma (which showed us his inclinations and motivations) and it gave him free-will: he didn't have to betray the Potters. He could still have been faithful to them. Wormtail is a pathetic little man, but he could just as easily have been a hero.

  • @3clipse449
    @3clipse449 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1338

    The title sounds like a Rita Sceeter article

    • @SimonaShine
      @SimonaShine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Skeeter

    • @char1909
      @char1909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh wow, it does

    • @asta3749
      @asta3749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Loved this comment

    • @kaimiross7517
      @kaimiross7517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      soooo click baity?

    • @yuichitwong9629
      @yuichitwong9629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      No, she'd use some kind of lame alliteration, like "Sorting Hat, or Sordid Headgear?"

  • @shoshanahenson3433
    @shoshanahenson3433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    I've been thinking ever since seeing the third movie, why didn't James or Lily just make the other their secret keeper. If trusting someone else is the problem, they would still be trusting the other person. Honestly, this is why neither of them were in Ravenclaw.

    • @jimmyjones6962
      @jimmyjones6962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I know that this is possible because for Bill And Fluer’s Shell Cottage the secret keeper is Bill

    • @shoshanahenson3433
      @shoshanahenson3433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@jimmyjones6962 YES! It makes no sense that peter was secret keeper. Dumbledore definitely had something to do with it...

    • @cellblocknine5385
      @cellblocknine5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Were they morons?

    • @ThePunisher90100
      @ThePunisher90100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The didnt make Peter their secretkeeper.
      They gave the Sekret to Sirius because they trusted him more then themselfes.
      Sirius decided to pass it on to the weakest member of the order of the phoenix, without their knowledge, because he thought Peter would be the least likely target??
      Please correct me if im wrong

    • @mythics102
      @mythics102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      literally I thought the same thing 😂 like come on guys

  • @katyaivanova7041
    @katyaivanova7041 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2027

    Hogwarts: a history? More like Hogwarts: a mystery

    • @sab2680
      @sab2680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Katya Ivanova that ...a game

    • @TheDarknesses
      @TheDarknesses 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol 😂

    • @robinniecake
      @robinniecake 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      HHAHAHAHAHAHA ios game you mentionin' brother?

    • @notapro6430
      @notapro6430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is probably the name of one of Rita’s articles

    • @heartsmyfaceforever8140
      @heartsmyfaceforever8140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Considering books are written by people it’s possible that the book didn’t cover the hat because the hat was of no interest of the writer. They wanted to cover topics that fascinated them. Or maybe the hat never came to Hogwarts until after the book was written

  • @paulrstrang
    @paulrstrang 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1023

    Seems like the Sorting Hat is a tradition and everyone keeps the secret as part of the tradition.

    • @gregoryfenn1462
      @gregoryfenn1462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      No way would everyone just keep a tradition secret for that long. One drunken family meal or post-Quidditch celebration party would be all it takes to spill the beans.

    • @simonestefani9499
      @simonestefani9499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I can summarize both of your ideas
      Sorting hat : wizards/witches = santa : muggles

    • @samylemzaoui2298
      @samylemzaoui2298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@simonestefani9499 Yeah but nobody still believes in Santa at 11 years old

    • @ovni2295
      @ovni2295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@samylemzaoui2298 Speak for yourself. I, for one, continue to believe in the Sacred Fraternal Order of Santas.

    • @pauletteedwards4839
      @pauletteedwards4839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or to freak them out in the waiting room

  • @cinnastag
    @cinnastag 5 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    Imagine some Ravenclaw just deciding, "Only a Ravenclaw must possess knowledge" and then casting the Fideleus Charm to make reading a secret

    • @jfg1787
      @jfg1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Think it actually has to be a secret. Reading and opening doors aren't secrets

    • @cinnastag
      @cinnastag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jfg1787 No, you just have to want to keep something secret. People that knew where Harry's parents lived suddenly just forgot and only people they told would've known

    • @jfg1787
      @jfg1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Had to be a way of keeping it from being abused. I'm no expert tho never considered any of this before

    • @jfg1787
      @jfg1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "It's very likely that all people who already knew the information before the spell is cast automatically become secondary keepers upon casting, even if they are unaware of the fact. That renders them uncapable of sharing the information, but they still remember it themselves. Otherwise the Fidelius Charm could be used as a powerful brainwashing spell that affects all living humans, up to making well-known facts forgotten and impossible to rediscover."
      That's from the Harry Potter wiki anyway. We can agree to disagree

    • @sleepnow3053
      @sleepnow3053 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pfft-

  • @natalieeware
    @natalieeware 4 ปีที่แล้ว +461

    Lol he says “be prepared to be stuck behind doors everyone” and then two years later we actually are all stuck behind doors

    • @saruwatarisa
      @saruwatarisa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Either prophecy or foreshadowing 🤔😂

    • @thrustvectoring8120
      @thrustvectoring8120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      except for people who use door levers, buttons or, wait for it, HANDLES. Because, you know, 90% of the world except for the US uses door handles...

    • @Inkyminkyzizwoz
      @Inkyminkyzizwoz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The wiki page on the Fidelius Charm says that it's highly likely that anyone that was aware of the information before the Charm was cast would continue to be so, but would merely be incapable of passing it on to anyone else unless the original Secret Keeper dies, because otherwise the Charm could be used as a powerful brainwashing tool to make well known facts forgotten

  • @Blade-hf9po
    @Blade-hf9po 6 ปีที่แล้ว +445

    About the Secret keeper stuff... You answered your own question without realizing it. Riddle was sure to come after Sirius yea? At least that's what Sirius believed. Say that happened, and he's really the secret keeper. Riddle would kill him, and then everyone who knew about the house would immediately become secret keepers themselves. See the problem yet?
    But if Peter is the secret keeper, and he doesn't betray the Potters... Riddle still goes after Sirius, kills him, but the original secret keeper is still alive. And Riddle would have no way of knowing that. It was a pretty smart plan. Too bad Peter was a Rat, in every sense of the word. It would have made way more sense to use some Squib. Riddle would NEVER in a million years suspect a Squib as a secret keeper.

    • @aidam7822
      @aidam7822 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Blade1301 Peter Pettigrew wasn't a squib, just saying.

    • @Blade-hf9po
      @Blade-hf9po 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I didn't mean Peter was a Squib, I meant they'd have been better off choosing a squib as Secret Keeper. Since that's the Last thing Riddle would expect.

    • @MsStormcrow
      @MsStormcrow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I still don't understand why James or Lily couldn't be their own secret keepers? That way Voldemort couldn't find them as long as they stayed hidden & didn't go out & get caught by a death eater. As long as ey stayed home, they'd be safe. No chance to be betrayed, but I guess then there wouldn't have been a story. Lol

    • @Blade-hf9po
      @Blade-hf9po 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You mean other than JKR not being as clever as she thinks she is?

    • @Thestupidlittlegirl
      @Thestupidlittlegirl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Maybe because they wanted at least one of their friends to know where they were just in case something bad happened to them, and for someone to take care of Harry? Think about it. If they would have died and nobody would have known where they were, then even their own friends wouldn't know if they were dead or not, let alone a way to check on them. Somebody needed to take care of Harry just in case something happened, so Harry woulndn't be stranded with his dead parents.

  • @athenasgift13
    @athenasgift13 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    if all Malfoys had the same love of hair gel or hair product as Draco, I think it's just a case of the Hat listens out for the name 'Malfoy' and just shouts out Slytherin to avoid being put on an overly gelled head XD

  • @DesolatorMagic
    @DesolatorMagic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3139

    I dunno how this doorknob works. Stuck behind door, send halp plz.

    • @aidanb6882
      @aidanb6882 7 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      DesolatorMagic did you try pushing instead of pulling (congrats new secret keeper)

    • @TheShuckleNoob
      @TheShuckleNoob 7 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Does running into the door count as pushing?

    • @analiesemiller4945
      @analiesemiller4945 7 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Dude if he's the new secret keeper that means you died.

    • @darkoraclegirl4570
      @darkoraclegirl4570 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Go out the window or ram something big and heavy into the door.

    • @phillthepotato4363
      @phillthepotato4363 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Try Confringo.

  • @thirteen0138
    @thirteen0138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    I love how he says: “Why do WE teach first years...” new conspiracy: both of the Carlin Brothers are Hogwarts teachers 🤯

    • @jacobbishop8067
      @jacobbishop8067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      They’d muggle studies

    • @theamericanyoutuber
      @theamericanyoutuber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      😂 They tag-team, since they’re twins and looked more identical they were younger, and it’s just stuck over the years.

    • @sylvy16
      @sylvy16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theamericanyoutuber they aren’t twins tho. J is older by i think two years.

    • @itzwillyboy2377
      @itzwillyboy2377 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They are the professors at Hogwarts for muggle studies and they're teaching us Muggles how to understand witches and wizards so that when the Wizarding Community finally drops the veil we're already intertwined properly so there's no f****** War it's brilliant oh my God

    • @nantrickel1708
      @nantrickel1708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤯🤯

  • @gahngis8158
    @gahngis8158 7 ปีที่แล้ว +896

    Why is there a spell to fix glasses but not eyes.

    • @yodarumble0450
      @yodarumble0450 7 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Gahngis You sir (or lady) (or attack helicopter) are one of many people asking

    • @dragoniraflameblade
      @dragoniraflameblade 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Maybe it's still limited by science? There's VERY LITTLE we know about medical magic in the books.

    • @hemmelgarndesigns
      @hemmelgarndesigns 7 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Gahngis pretty sure it’s something to do with the eyes being seen as the window to the soul and you don’t mess with the soul because it can go horribly wrong. Feel like I read it somewhere (maybe pottermore) but I could be wrong

    • @panther6405
      @panther6405 7 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Fixing glasses is the the same as fixing any other object. Fixing your eyes would be much more complicated and require neurological healing.
      But still though, you'd think with hundreds of generations of witches and wizards someone would of figured out how to fix eyesight.

    • @OGimouse1
      @OGimouse1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's because different prescriptions are not maladies.

  • @noemiemi7213
    @noemiemi7213 6 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    I guess JK Rowling didn’t think through about the possibility that people would discuss minutiae like that in the future with such zeal and enthusiasm 😀😀😀

    • @TheDramacist
      @TheDramacist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yup. It's said that an author can save a lot of time by omitting such details, as fans will spin their own theories and explanations, and it'll likely be a better idea than anything the author was able to conjure up.

    • @mauer1
      @mauer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Fizz not as a writer for me but as a person.

    • @tobyhunt2127
      @tobyhunt2127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mauer1 Why?

  • @LaloMartins
    @LaloMartins 5 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    The text doesn't say people who already know the secret suddenly forget it, it says they become unable to pass it on.

    • @adolfodef
      @adolfodef 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It is implied that it works for non-sentient objects retaining the information (like taxes).
      The actual line in the paper (or Excel table) is still written in the same place of the paper (or magnetic_reactive_surface of the harddrive), but any person who tries to read it will only see gibberish [perhaps not everyone reads the exact same thing, so you could at least "detect" the presence of protected information this way, even if you can not "decode it"].
      -> At most, you may be able to pinpoint the "general area" by retracing known behaviors/protocols of whoever was supposed to write that originally [like if the entire page has the same handwritting or if the file was updated at a certain timestamp]; but never enough to set "a camp" in front of the two places NEXT to the thing that is hidden (that look like if they are touching each others).

    • @fredericauhnarta2101
      @fredericauhnarta2101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm the 69th comment 😂

    • @asada135
      @asada135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well that would be issue with Grimmauld place, since at least Bellatrix and Narcissa would definetely know its location prior it was made to head quarters of Order of the Phoenix.

    • @mauer1
      @mauer1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@asada135 well it doesnt matter if they know about grimmauld place, they doesnt know and wont be able to know that grimmauld place is the head quarter of Order of the Phoenix.

    • @simoncareme
      @simoncareme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Phew, I can preserve my ability to open doors!

  • @Groundlord
    @Groundlord 5 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    Hermione is shown to be an inquisitive and studious person, and she admitted to studying a large number of spells in preparation for the Sorting "test". The fact that she knows Alohamora doesn't mean it's a spell that *every* first-year is going to know.
    There's also the possibility that most students will just assume that the locks around Hogwarts are enchanted in some way to prevent the spell from working.

    • @edienandy
      @edienandy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Groundlord didn’t she say it’s from The Standard Book of Spells? Chapter 7 to be precise. That’s a book that’s on their list of school supplies so every first year should know it.

    • @azzahrahanamayindra7253
      @azzahrahanamayindra7253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Edie &Andy yes. Even at Hogwarts Mystery (Its canon) we learn Alohomora in our first year

    • @magica3526
      @magica3526 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      or it's a plot contrivance

    • @CommanderCodey
      @CommanderCodey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alohamora is a basic spell so most people who do “light reading” would know the spell

    • @proclarushtaonasat
      @proclarushtaonasat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CommanderCodey but there is a counterspell to alohomora, that even umbridge can perform

  • @ThePC-eh2lt
    @ThePC-eh2lt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    Sometimes I feel like my professors have hidden information that will be on the test with the Fidelius Charm. I read the textbook chapters over and over, and the information is not there...I take the test, don't know how to answer that question, then go back to the book after the exam, and BAM, there is is, right on the page, plain as day... :P

    • @marsiemalloww
      @marsiemalloww 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      omg YES! Are they infiltrated wizards/witches???

    • @azzahrahanamayindra7253
      @azzahrahanamayindra7253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ikrrr!!! I think its plausible since one of my teachers liked reading Harry Potter
      Maybe she’s a witch in disguise 😮

    • @yvonneinglin6630
      @yvonneinglin6630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OMG! SOOOO RELATABLE!!! Actually not relatable at all.

    • @Prokerboss
      @Prokerboss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No

    • @cellblocknine5385
      @cellblocknine5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@azzahrahanamayindra7253 Yeah but probably not...

  • @monkeygoesbananas
    @monkeygoesbananas 7 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I always figured the specifics of the sorting ceremony was a "secret" by tradition. Just something all the parents didn't tell their children so they would still be surprised by it. This wouldn't be particularly surprising considering how serious wizards can be about their traditions.

    • @TxRxAxP
      @TxRxAxP 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This. I feel like this video just overcomplicated it.

    • @anaclaragastaldi3499
      @anaclaragastaldi3499 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      furthermore, its something our society already does (cofocofsantaclauscofcof), so its not like the wizards are super eccentric keeping such a tradition.

    • @QuesoCookies
      @QuesoCookies 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That makes sense except for Draco. There's no reason to believe Lucius wouldn't tell Draco if he thought it might give Draco an advantage during the ceremony (or, frankly, just have some insider knowledge he can lord over the other kids so they think he's special just because he's a Malfoy, which is definitely something Lucius would do). So for Draco to not know what the ceremony is, the answer is even simpler: Rowling wanted the reader to share a sense of wonderment with the characters and didn't think that decision all the way through, which is a reasonable conclusion as there's no way she could have known how popular her books would get, especially while writing the first book.

  • @unwantedmacguffin5611
    @unwantedmacguffin5611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    5:29 "Be prepared to be stuck behind doors everyone."
    It's 2020 and I wish I did prepare.

    • @ct4m80
      @ct4m80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah me to

  • @juanmoreno6591
    @juanmoreno6591 7 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    You know, sinse seeing this video I've been thinking about Sirius' "bluff", it always seemed to me to be weird but never could put my finger on why, and when seeing the video I was still feeling like there was a piece of info missing, and after much thought I think I have it:
    Sirius' plan was to die.
    Think about it. As you say, the information on where the Potters were hiding couldn't be tortured out of him, but once you die everyone you told suddenly can also tell the secret. Well, as members of the Order of the Pheonix, Aurors and just by virtue of their popularity he would have had to tell at least a few people, among them one who Sirius susected to be a traitor, so what to do about it? Simple (assuming you're one of the smartest characters in the canon)
    First, let some people you suspect about know where you're gonna be escaping to.
    Second, make someone else who noone would ever believe would be chosen for such a task be the keeper.
    Third, put up a hell of a fight and keep those sent after you persuing for as long as you possible can. (at this point it would make it clear who the traitor is, or at least significantly reduce the possibilities).
    Fourth, once you inevitably die, the real keeper will be long gone and nobody would know where to, keeping the secret much safer than having to rely on your ability to keep yourself alive against the worst people ever.
    Added bonus: If Voldemort decides to persue you himself you can give the order some much needed breathing room to keep strenghten themselves, but even if not, you're acting as a resource sink for the Death Eaters.
    Let me know what you think, I really want to know your thoughts on this.

    • @charlotteschmidbauer5655
      @charlotteschmidbauer5655 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Juan Moreno that was probably the idea but it failed

    • @ary247
      @ary247 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Juan Moreno as much as i love sirius, i hate him for the change of plan..at least, this could be an explanation 🙂

    • @noeticnoetic
      @noeticnoetic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Once the Secret Keeper dies, all other whom the Secret Keeper told the secret to become a Secret Keeper themselves."

    • @rei8968
      @rei8968 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Juan Moreno they shouldve just made Tom Riddle the secret keeper
      James or Lily as secret keeper would have been the best for everyone

    • @funnyteacherman
      @funnyteacherman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This makes so much sense and now I'm so much sadder

  • @kristopherbarker3282
    @kristopherbarker3282 7 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    I would have put Lily and James location in Sirius, and put Sirius location in Lily and James. But that is just Ravenclaw logic.

    • @l.swanstrom2848
      @l.swanstrom2848 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      kristopher barker That's smart! I'm in Ravenclaw too!

    • @BHLani
      @BHLani 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      It's too bad none of them are Ravenclaws, or they might have thought of that. I'm a Ravenclaw too, btw

    • @hammysauce
      @hammysauce 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ravenclaw here too. Definitely agree!

    • @jessiethenerd3539
      @jessiethenerd3539 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      kristopher barker
      Ah yes. I've thought of that flaw before.
      Also, hello fellow Ravenclaws

    • @chloebrindle9295
      @chloebrindle9295 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      What is this logic? I’m Gryffindor lol

  • @LLover166
    @LLover166 6 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    So, I've been thinking about this and I think you are seriously (haha) undermining Serious's intentions here. He says he was prepared to die because I think he EXPECTED to. You keep saying it yourself, if the secret keeper dies then all who know become secret keepers which means that it's not very secret and the "worst kept" secret keeper being secret was that Serious Black was the secret keeper for the Potters. I mean, everyone "knew" that so even if the answer couldn't be tortured out of him Voldemort could just kill Serious and then get it out of just about every single member of the Order and so many more. I think Serious knew this and planned on it so he suggested making the secret keeper someone he saw as one of his closest confidants and trust-worthy friends for life (he doubted Remus at the time) and figured that no one would really suspect that Peter of all people would hold such an important role. Just saying. Give the guy his credit! He really was going to die for his friends and protect their secret even in death by never having been the one to hold it.

    • @DistortionUltra
      @DistortionUltra 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      LLover166 Yes! Exactly.

    • @VideoKirwan
      @VideoKirwan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saved me typing this

    • @Sorestlor
      @Sorestlor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They SHOULD have just made a secret chain. Serious keeps the house secret. And the rat keeps the secret that serious has the secret. Or james/lilly could keep that secret even better.

    • @VideoKirwan
      @VideoKirwan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Sorestlor secretception. Dam you got secrets on secrets

    • @cartersessal4551
      @cartersessal4551 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Have you ever read the books? Because nobody who read the books (even if it was several years ago) would write "Serious" that way. The person you're referring to isn't called Serious Black but SIRIUS BLACK! That had to get out. And come on... Serious???

  • @feanor411
    @feanor411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    the sorting hat could have had its own spell, different from the fidelius charm, but similar.

    • @rodolfovillegas7569
      @rodolfovillegas7569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Omg 😱 theory twist! Best one I’ve seen by far it does not say it is protected by fedelious charm

    • @horlickfamily7504
      @horlickfamily7504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly! I have a twist on that thought. We know that a part of all four founders was included into the hat. Now I'm not implying it's some kind of horcrux, since horcruxes rely on splitting the soul. But it may be a pseudo-horcrux, a splitting of the mind. Which could mean the sorting hat is literally a surviving part of the founders. Since a item like this would be super valuable, the founders would collectively put a spell on it to protect it. This spell could be the progenitor of the fedelius charm. It's quite possible that later wizards studied the hat and figured out a spell similar to the one that the hat uses. A spell that might work slightly different from the Fedelius charm. I believe the hat's charm doesn't stop you from telling the secret, but might stop the person from remembering it. So Hermione might read it, but after a few seconds forget it. So when Harry tell it to his son. His son may have forgotten the hat the moment the conversation was over, but will inly remember his father trying to comfort him.

  • @jayfeather464
    @jayfeather464 6 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    LMAO tbh the Potters r so foolish XD They couldve hidden Sirius away using a Fedilius Charm too probably in the Potters house with them and the Potters couldve been SIRIUS' Secret Keeper whilst Sirius was THEIRS -_- Voldemort wouldve literally NEVER found them smh.

    • @hannaprayer1
      @hannaprayer1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Actually, that's genius!

    • @CJDaCookieCat
      @CJDaCookieCat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I think we found a true Ravenclaw worthy of Order of Merlin 1st class

    • @ammarzaghloul55
      @ammarzaghloul55 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      They could have just taken Dumbledore up on his offer to be their keeper.

    • @skye1944
      @skye1944 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      this is brilliant !!

    • @jinsstyle
      @jinsstyle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or they can themselves have been the secret keeper

  • @electriclizardwizard
    @electriclizardwizard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Can you make your secret keeper an animal? if so, make your pet (or even better, a random bunny or crow) your secret keeper! they'll never tell.

    • @christopherfu2169
      @christopherfu2169 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Going by the theory, maybe a phoenix. They are litteraly imortal. My inital thought was fawks, but maybe one of the founders had one and casted it upon the bird?

    • @Damien-oi4vv
      @Damien-oi4vv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Liza Piashko Yeah unfortunately it has to be cast on a living person, so at least something that is sentient like a human

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Minimani Could you make a centaur a secret keeper? Or aragog?

    • @Damien-oi4vv
      @Damien-oi4vv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      RLucas3000 Hm, I’d say possibly. I don’t see any reason that it wouldn’t work but maybe i missed something

    • @alzhanvoid
      @alzhanvoid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They'd die pretty soon though. So unless you werent planning to keep it for long it wouldnt be very effective. Youd need some immortal legendary being to keep it, and also be able to lock this unaging being for eternity to make sure it didnt get itself killed by factors other than age.

  • @Theveilofroses
    @Theveilofroses 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Okay here is what I think happened with Sirius changing the secret keeper...
    So the only people knowing of The Potters' location what's a select few including Remus. Sirius what's in a very paranoid State and wasn't thinking right. He believed since his family or Death Eaters and they knew James was his best friend they would Target him. If he died then everyone would become the Secret Keeper. This included Remus who he believed was the traitor. So if the Secret Keeper became Peter then people could suspect him and even kill him and The Potter's would be safe. Man were they wrong.

  • @maddycurley
    @maddycurley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I just don’t understand why the Potters didnt want to use Dumbledore as their secret keeper🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @viktornapolitano6113
      @viktornapolitano6113 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Maybe because it would be to obvious? Then again Voldemort was scared of Dumbledore, soooo......

    • @lexistein3859
      @lexistein3859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      They should have made their cat their secret keeper lol

    • @duhdabbermens
      @duhdabbermens 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Cuz jk forgets her own rules

    • @cellblocknine5385
      @cellblocknine5385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Why didn't they just make each other their secret keepers?

    • @HuneeBruh
      @HuneeBruh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cellblocknine5385 oh my god that’s ingenious

  • @rjs451
    @rjs451 6 ปีที่แล้ว +396

    Or... it’s a tradition people would rather have their children experience for themselves rather than tell them what to expect.

    • @0Maanu0
      @0Maanu0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Your explanation makes sense, that it's just a plot hole.
      In Pottermore you can read how the girl that created ilvermorny knew what the hat was, without going to hogwarts ever.

    • @terquoise
      @terquoise 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Every child? Everyone? Highly unlikely.

    • @banana_bread_18
      @banana_bread_18 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@0Maanu0 well theoreticalmy she doesn't actuallh know about the hat, just about the sorting I think. That's why Ilvermorny has a different sorting system I think

    • @Kirkspitchingperformance
      @Kirkspitchingperformance 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s like Santa Clause

    • @seldamnia13
      @seldamnia13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No guys, the true question and plothole is why it isnt written in history of hogwarts....if not that then i would agree that parents didmt tell them for the sake of pureness and unbiased choice of house

  • @abbyw2521
    @abbyw2521 7 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    QUESTION!!??If a muggle sees Hogwarts as a ruin, what happens when they approach it? Walk around it? Go inside the ruins? Do the witches & wizards see the muggle wandering around Hogwarts or not? x

    • @nathishvel5725
      @nathishvel5725 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      There are other charms working as well, such as one that makes the school unplottable on maps, and another makes electrical items stop functioning. Another of these charms makes muggles who approach the school think that they have some very very important task and they leave. It's in book 4.

    • @abbyw2521
      @abbyw2521 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for that, now you mention I think I briefly recall it now but I'm dyslexic so its a smaller detail I probably wouldn't retain. Thanks again! x

    • @anerdwithaswitch9686
      @anerdwithaswitch9686 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But what happens when the Google Truck goes by it? Or a satellite maps the area? I'm pretty sure people are going to notice a large gap in their data.

    • @jordan6287
      @jordan6287 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      TheBrony/GamerPerson it will probably replace the emptiness with the ruins...

    • @palmtree2401
      @palmtree2401 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Abby W wait if that was true the ruins would show up on a map. Another wizard could look at the map on Google knowing Hogwarts appears to be a ruin and then go there themselves.

  • @patgray5402
    @patgray5402 7 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    What about the scarf of sexual preference?

    • @lanfanji7784
      @lanfanji7784 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Luke William What about the scarf of the goddess of Wisdom (Greek from Percy Jackson) 😂

    • @patgray5402
      @patgray5402 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Watch this and then thank me later. th-cam.com/video/wmwM_AKeMCk/w-d-xo.html

    • @megantaber9104
      @megantaber9104 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      McKenzie Hayes it was the goddess of love's (Aphrodite's) scarf. Not Athena ' s .

    • @Liusila
      @Liusila 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luke William Thank you! ^^

    • @aidenoliver1681
      @aidenoliver1681 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahaha yeah

  • @t.j.armendariz354
    @t.j.armendariz354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    So… I’m guessing Sirius’ plan is more in the line that if they killed him, the secret keeper’s location would be safe, and there wouldn’t become 5+ secret keepers ensuring that the Fidelius Charm retained its potency

  • @ashleycaulfield810
    @ashleycaulfield810 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    As to why Sirius thought it would be a good bluff to use Pettigrew instead of himself: If Sirius was gone after because Voldemort thought he was the secret keeper and then killed, the people he had let in on the secret would then become secret keepers. This would give Voldemort more people to go after until he found one that would willingly give him the information. But with Sirius not being the secret keeper, it would prevent that from happening. Not that it was a great plan. Obviously it failed anyway. And Pettigrew would have become a secret keeper even if Sirius had been and then killed. But that was what I thought the reasoning would be. I could be wrong. But it made the most sense after knowing how the charm works.

    • @sarah_7814
      @sarah_7814 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ashley Caulfield that's a great theory because Sirius might have mistakenly thought that it would be protecting his loved ones to not be the keeper because Voldemort would go after his loved ones e.g the people he told if he died and they became keepers.

    • @liv2232
      @liv2232 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What I’ve always wondered though is why James or Lily couldn’t have been the secret keeper?

    • @robinbernardinis
      @robinbernardinis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liv Jones Or Harry.

    • @liv2232
      @liv2232 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Robin Bernardinis true, but harry was only a baby so no one would be able to get into the house because he probably couldn’t talk very well or maybe he could?

    • @lauraireson6358
      @lauraireson6358 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Liv Jones Maybe you have to be mature enough to be able to understand the charm for it to work on you.

  • @lordvika2526
    @lordvika2526 5 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Actually it was never confirmed that unlock spell is taught in year 1, Hermione is the only one to use it and we know she taught herself spells before she went to Hogwarts

    • @timeamajor2081
      @timeamajor2081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But she learned it from the first year textbook

    • @landlighterfirestar5550
      @landlighterfirestar5550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timeamajor2081 citation needed

    • @jaysondavis9693
      @jaysondavis9693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timeamajor2081 How do you know? Knowing Hermione, she is reading advanced wizard if months before even going into Hogwarts

    • @Inkyminkyzizwoz
      @Inkyminkyzizwoz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaysondavis9693 She says in the first film that it's in 'Standard Book of Spells: Chapter 7'. Yes, I know that line is from the film rather than the book, but I think official policy is that the films are considered canon where they don't contradict the books, and there's nothing in the books to say that the spell ISN'T in that textbook, so it can therefore be taken as canon that it is

    • @gamergod8538
      @gamergod8538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Inkyminkyzizwoz that would be headcannon, not cannon.

  • @sjsosokdksksk
    @sjsosokdksksk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Here's my question: With so many kids wearing it, does the Sorting Hat contain lice?

    • @EchthelionII
      @EchthelionII 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      anti lice charm, you learn it third year.

    • @Chief-Remeldian-Olympus
      @Chief-Remeldian-Olympus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nice magic is nice

    • @ohneil
      @ohneil 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The lice would be on the sword of gryffindor

    • @angeladavidson2350
      @angeladavidson2350 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      As a magical object, I'm sure there's a way it doesn't have lice

    • @duburakiba
      @duburakiba 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it eats them

  • @dlboy78
    @dlboy78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Regarding the rant about Sirius deciding to make Wormtail secret keeper for James and Lilly's location. If a person dies while secret keeper, as you pointed out yourself, then any who they have shared the secret with become the secret keepers. Sirius felt that, as the obvious choice, he might be targeted and killed. This would instantly enable a large number of additional secret keepers and give more opportunity for the secret to possibly be shared. He felt that Wormtail was much less likely to be suspected, and therefor safer... of course not knowing he was a sniveling coward that would betray them in a heartbeat ;)

  • @EchoCamCam
    @EchoCamCam 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Can't wait for Fantastic Beast: The Crimes of Grindelwald!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @leef8594
      @leef8594 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TurtwigLover4 me neither! The first Fantastic Beasts was a great movie, and I trust the Crimes of Grindelwald will be a great movie too.

  • @MarcMercier1971
    @MarcMercier1971 6 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Wouldn't this make anyone who's seen the movie... now a "Secret Keeper"? Hmm.

    • @jonispatented
      @jonispatented 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marc A. Mercier no because the charm isn’t real

    • @elijahstubel5288
      @elijahstubel5288 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      JonIsPatented Ur kidding right. Marc was joking.

    • @jonispatented
      @jonispatented 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eli the Cacti of course

    • @captaintwelves8866
      @captaintwelves8866 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marc A. Mercier or read the books

    • @thesoloplayer7685
      @thesoloplayer7685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, because Hogwarts isn't real

  • @zademoabi6110
    @zademoabi6110 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    James should have done it to Lilly and Lilly should have told James or vice versa.

    • @burningfire3922
      @burningfire3922 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zade Moadi I agree

    • @esqimo6647
      @esqimo6647 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think maybe they needed it to be someone else so they could bring like food and stuff

  • @TheDrexxus
    @TheDrexxus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Honestly I think it's just to have some extra "wow" factor when reading the story. You learn stuff as the characters experience it. It would've killed the impact of the hat if Hermione just laid it out for them before walking in there. No, it doesn't make any sense at all that Ron and Hermione wouldn't have known, but sometimes authors gotta auth. Wouldn't have been any fun if Ron came already knowing a hundred spells, having heard them used in his presence literally his entire life. I mean if you think about it, it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense having muggle-born kids who know literally nothing of magic being placed on the same level as pure blood children in the first place because those kids who grew up around it would already know SO MUCH information as well as many spells, even if they weren't able to cast them yet.

    • @jaredargento1511
      @jaredargento1511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean sure, but I feel like this logic could be applied to a LOT of plotholes even outside of Harry Potter; and because of that, it just feels like a cop-out explanation.

  • @IsaacCarlson
    @IsaacCarlson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +916

    In HP related talk, the new Fantastic Beasts movie looks super interesting! Nice video Ben!

    • @aidanb6882
      @aidanb6882 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wotso Videos ha how are you. I can't believe more people didn't notice such an amazing TH-camr

    • @IsaacCarlson
      @IsaacCarlson 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I'm doing good kid lightning! I really appreciate the compliment, but I don't expect anyone to notice! People are busy soaking up the awesomeness of the Super Carlin Brothers!

    • @darthguilder1923
      @darthguilder1923 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wotso Videos I really enjoyed the first movie, can’t wait for the next.

    • @chuggaa100
      @chuggaa100 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Too bad JK Rowling profits from it

    • @Jacob-eq4ld
      @Jacob-eq4ld 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Mr. ElectriDictator what do you mean? She wrote it, of course she profits from it.

  • @gayliljaehyun
    @gayliljaehyun 7 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    count on j and ben to expose the holes of the hp universe lmao omg

    • @solvargasm
      @solvargasm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      eli m. Expose the holes and then fix them.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holes or well thought quirks?

  • @alexhynds4080
    @alexhynds4080 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Thank you, Ben and Jay, for amazing videos. I found your channel two years ago and have watched every video since. I am a huge fan of Harry Potter and Disney/Pixar, so this is just the perfect channel for me! Keep up the amazing work!

  • @judea9763
    @judea9763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think one of the founders was secret keeper then the secret was passed on to the headmasters and headmistresses and when dumbldore died evreyone who knew about it became secret keeper

  • @yiklongtay6029
    @yiklongtay6029 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I have a theory that the Fidelius charm works like an artificial invocation
    of a mental lapse. If one reads a sentence in Hogwarts a History that mentions the Sorting Hat, they would understand it like any regular person would. But when their eyes shift away from the sentence, they no longer retain the information or recall even coming across the sentence. Furthermore, I don't recall any text stating that people who have previously possessed the knowledge would forget the information once a keeper is selected. Perhaps Pettigrew was the one who casted the spell so no one beforehand knew the location. This should help tone down the idea that the spell has the ability invasively make 8 billion people forget how to breathe.

    • @corywhitney1386
      @corywhitney1386 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yik Long Tay not everyone is as stupid as you and are likely to forget what they just read 2 seconds after reading it

    • @fleur1492
      @fleur1492 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      so basically it works like the silence

  • @victortalkingmachine
    @victortalkingmachine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Sirius, I have a secret for you.
    THAT IS A *STUPID* PLAN."
    I died XD

  • @courtney9237
    @courtney9237 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Can you do video on Greek mythology in Harry Potter

  • @christophergraham3160
    @christophergraham3160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    More plausible: The year that Harry, Hermione, Ron, and Malfoy started at Hogwarts was the 1st year that the knowledge was kept secret from all 1st Years. Sort of hazing. After the fall of Voldemort, Headmistress MacGonagle decided that it was no longer to be, and the Sorting Hat was made known within the Magical Community.

  • @YorkshireMemes
    @YorkshireMemes 6 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    It makes sense as the hat (if going to accurately put someone In a house) needs to find what values the said student puts above all else

    • @paperclip5131
      @paperclip5131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jack the lad how does that make sense? Whatever.

    • @paperclip5131
      @paperclip5131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Waifu Laifu whatever I don't really care.

    • @Luka1180
      @Luka1180 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +Matt Jerman
      If you do not care, why the hell did you bring this stuff up???

    • @paperclip5131
      @paperclip5131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally you are TRYING to start an argument.

    • @ovenproofpanda1623
      @ovenproofpanda1623 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What the f**k just happened?

  • @9really
    @9really 6 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Why didn’t Harry’s parents put the fidelius charm on harry. It’s not like harry will tell people where they live.

    • @MuttFitness
      @MuttFitness 6 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Choco Mousse his parents wouldn't be able to find harry either unless he told them.

    • @verat.3925
      @verat.3925 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      And Harry would not have been able to tell the Order where they were.

    • @shellh4421
      @shellh4421 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      I never understood why they didn't just use it on James. He was hiding inside the house anyway

    • @687gaming9
      @687gaming9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Because the secret keeper needs to accept being the secret keeper.

    • @Sid37612
      @Sid37612 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Choco Mousse If harry died, everyone who had known where the Potter's lived would now be the secret keepers

  • @callumwilson9805
    @callumwilson9805 6 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    You’re getting confused over this curse, the secret keeper can still be tortured into telling the secret, but everyone else who is not the secret keeper cannot tell anyone, even if they are tortured

  • @tarakmax3620
    @tarakmax3620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    9:07 or Nicholas flamel because he dies at the end of the first book and it seems like everyone after that is aware that it is a hat that sorts them. Put your suggestions in the reply section

  • @paperclip5131
    @paperclip5131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    If the Sorting Hat was killed, then there would be a lot of Secret Keepers!

    • @electriclizardwizard
      @electriclizardwizard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Me: holding up a pair of Scissors: WHERES THE HAT CHILDREN

  • @apple_blossom19
    @apple_blossom19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    OR, and I'm just pulling this out of the usual place: writers are human and JK Rowling didn't think about it while writing the books.
    Just saying.

    • @intensellylit4100
      @intensellylit4100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She'd amend it with a tweet.

    • @chessergamer
      @chessergamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rowling is a very smart writer who thinks of everything. And even if she did make a mistake she would tweet it or somethin, or change the books.

    • @idk-gp5ki
      @idk-gp5ki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Henk Kalveren she’s only human don’t put her on some impossible pedestal

    • @darkassassinkantafly
      @darkassassinkantafly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah but it's always fun to try and think of an in-universe explanation.

    • @huma19
      @huma19 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkassassinkantafly lol

  • @danniwantsfood
    @danniwantsfood 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Nice Coco guitar, Ben. I also love the Pua plushie. He was my favorite part of Moana and i was bummed Hei-hei went instead of him. Thank you for making great videos and tell Jay i said hi!

    • @danniwantsfood
      @danniwantsfood 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for correcting me. The Hufflepuff in me made me say thank you!

  • @lilcreeper2635
    @lilcreeper2635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When someone uses the fidelius charm on how to walk:
    “Bro I can’t move”
    “How do I get a snack if I can’t go to the kitchen”
    “How do you move your legs”

  • @Cameron_Jamie94
    @Cameron_Jamie94 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Last time I was this early the 4 founders of Hogwarts were still sorting their students by hand

  • @r_and_om_me5203
    @r_and_om_me5203 7 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    A person to whom the location has been revealed to can't have the secret tortured out of them. The secret keeper can because they can reveal the location to anyone person they want to.

    • @SirButcher
      @SirButcher 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yes, this. The original secret keeper can tell them if he want but everyone else can tell the information and the torturer can't understand it, no matter how much they torture them. The Original Secret keeper, however has the power to share the information.

    • @nikolayterekhin2639
      @nikolayterekhin2639 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whom*

    • @buffypython
      @buffypython 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So I guess that means you could torture the Secret Keeper, which begs the question, why didn't 1 of the Potters just be the Secret Keeper of their house's location? Since they were hiding, they weren't going out of the house much anyway, so Voldemort couldn't have tortured whichever of them was the SK & the other couldn't have it tortured out of them.

    • @r_and_om_me5203
      @r_and_om_me5203 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "The Fidelius charm is too complex and advanced, a form of very deep magic, so it can’t be fooled with cheap tricks. The whole essence behind it is to put faith in a living soul, into a person other than yourself. It’s based on trust, loyalty, and fidelity, hence its name. It’s not about moving your wand and saying an incantation. If you want to hide, someone else must be the secret keeper, a person who wants to keep the secret in their mind, soul, and heart. Therefore, neither Lily nor James could play this part, as it was their lives that were in danger and their house that had to be protected."
      www.quora.com/Why-didnt-the-Potters-become-their-own-secret-keepers

    • @abrissapfel4833
      @abrissapfel4833 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      r_and_om_me is this official? because it doesnt make sense at all. You can be the secret keeper of your own home, we can see this in part 7 when Lupin says that Bill is the secretkeeper of Shell Cottagel, where he(Bill) and Fleur live.

  • @rishika5798
    @rishika5798 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Sirius's plan was actually a good idea. If Voldemort went after Sirius, who he would have expected to be secret keeper anyways, as he was James best friend, Sirius would have died and the role of secret keeper would have been passed to all who knew about the secret, meaning the whole order. This would have made it so much harder for Voldemort to track down someone who would intentionally reveal the secret, as with the Fedelius charm, you need to have the person willingly give the secret to you without any magical means of persuasion, like the imperious curse or a confundus charm. There of course was the snag, aka, Peter Pettigrew, who was an insider in their group and part of the order. He would have snuck off to tell Voldemort the information (he could) anyways meaning Lily and James would have most likely died in the end. However, in the process of writing the comment, I realised something. Sirius, is no idiot, in fact, he's very smart. He would be no stranger to staying up late at night as he needed to do so every month at Hogwarts. This could have affected his sleeping habits, making it harder for him to get to sleep at night. Then, he would have heard Pettigrew sneak out around past midnight, the expected time for him to sneak out, and go to Voldemort. Since the order knew there was a spy in the Marauders group, he would have put two and two together, figuring out how Peter must have been the mole. However, putting the error aside, it would have been a brilliant idea, as who would suspect Pettigrew as the spy, as he was the weakling of the group, plus, if Voldemort did go after Sirius, then it would be one life lost instead of three (counting Harry as Sirius didn't know about Lily's protection) maybe even 4, as Lily was rumoured to be pregnant before she died.

    • @reyniknamyrion3557
      @reyniknamyrion3557 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      But then why not just make Dumbledore the Secret Keeper? Voldemort actively avoids confrontation with Dumbledore because he fears him. Really, this just always bothered me - Dumbledore seems to be the perfect Secret Keeper; he becomes the Secret Keeper for the Order, so why not Godric's Hollow?

    • @rishika5798
      @rishika5798 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      - - That's a fair point. However, we know how persistent Tom is. Lily and James's death would have been delayed but Dumbledore's death would have been earlier. It would have changed the plotline immensely but Harry would have still received the scar as Tom would have killed Dumbledore, making everyone who knew the Secret Keepers. Then, Peter would have told Tom the location and the story would resume.

    • @reyniknamyrion3557
      @reyniknamyrion3557 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But the Secret Keeper's identity was, itself, a secret. Nobody knew Peter was the Secret Keeper except James, Lily, Sirius and Peter. If they had gone with Sirius the only people who would have known would have been James, Lily and Sirius (Sirius even went into hiding in canon to play up expectations of him being the real Secret Keeper since he was the obvious choice). Sirius and Dumbledore are the obvious choices, and the only reason Voldemort ever knew neither were the Secret Keeper was because the Secret Keeper himself told him.
      Voldemort would have wanted to prepare for telling Dumbledore, since Dumbledore was the only wizard he ever feared and he would have wanted to take no chances. In the meantime anything could have happened. Regulus could have fled with Kreacher to the Order instead of staying in the Cave to die, leaking the secret of the Horcruxes and sparking the hunt for them much earlier. The tide of war could have turned, beating down the Death Eaters to a negligible force. Hell, the Statute of Secrecy may well have been broken and the wizarding world revealed, which is a whole other story.
      At the end of the day, Dumbledore still would have made the most sensible choice for Secret Keeper.

    • @rishika5798
      @rishika5798 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      - - I agree that Dumbledore would have been the best choice for Secret Keeper, but for the sake of the original story, I'd like to make a few points.
      Regulas would not know the location of the Order, as they purposefully kept themselves hidden, so they wouldn't be attacked by death eaters. He would have to be looking around constantly, and there would have been a very small chance that he would find them.
      The plan to kill Dumbledore was a fairly simple one. Finding a time when Dumbledore was distracted, using this opportunity to go through the loophole that had been previously found (eg: the vanishing cabinet), and launching a mass attack. At this time, Voldemort was at his prime. He had several hundred followers who, by strength in numbers, could have easily taken out the Order. They would have cast the Dark Mark then as well.
      Dumbledore, upon seeing the Dark Mark over the Orders safe house, would obviously investigate to see if everyone was okay. There, he could be disarmed or stunned, and Voldemort could finish him off. Then, Peter could reveal the secret to him and the story would carry on.
      You may be saying, if Regulas couldn't find the Order's location, then how could Voldemort? Well, Regulas is one man and Voldemort has an exceptional mind, plus several followers to offer some brainpower. We even know in the Deathly Hallows, that the death eaters know/strongly suspect the location of Harry, Ron and Hermione. As for the loophole, there would be some magical object that the Fedelius Charm doesn't guard against, as the Fedelius charm is a rather old spell that may not guard against modern magical means.
      (Just adding right now, it's a lot of fun to debate on the more complex aspects of Harry Potter with a hardcore fan like me XD)

    • @shellieng2809
      @shellieng2809 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why the heck did they just not make James or Lily the Secret Keeper as far as I know there is no rule forbidding this and it's foolproof???

  • @lordjs9726
    @lordjs9726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ben: "Houses are unique to Hogwarts."
    Ilvermorny: "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @aidanb6882
    @aidanb6882 7 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    6:40 "when will my reflection show who I am inside"

  • @hannahl8081
    @hannahl8081 6 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    I'm pretty sure the scarf of sexual preference was the secret keeper

    • @pppenguig2627
      @pppenguig2627 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hannah L exactly

    • @kirankaur5010
      @kirankaur5010 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      SCARFYYYY

    • @hazelmykitten1067
      @hazelmykitten1067 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was just scrolling through the comments, taking a sip of Dr Pepper and then *snorts* which soon turned into *chokes*

    • @jennifernelson4984
      @jennifernelson4984 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hazelmykitten that sounds so painful 😂

    • @livvygoogle8468
      @livvygoogle8468 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SCARFY!!
      Rest in peace bud.

  • @SchoolOfScienceTV
    @SchoolOfScienceTV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Every time people mention muggles seeing hogwarts they say all they will see is ruins, what if a muggle is fascinated by ruins and wants to examine them, will they pass through the barrier or will they be able to interact with said ruins??

    • @Don_Rodrigo44
      @Don_Rodrigo44 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      SomeEnglishGuy there's also muggle repelling charms so if they get close they would remember something else they were supposed to do and go away

    • @anerdwithaswitch9686
      @anerdwithaswitch9686 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Keika They're going to bring the wizarding world into the 21st century, kicking and screaming if they have to.

    • @jdawn1982
      @jdawn1982 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Keika actually, there are a number of places on Google Maps and Google Earth that are blanked out or pixelated out for different reasons, like security.

    • @corywhitney1386
      @corywhitney1386 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tig Ol' Bitties but what if they have nothing else to do? Wizards are just dicks to muggles

    • @darksev.6468
      @darksev.6468 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, aren't Squibs technically Muggles?

  • @riinxie1191
    @riinxie1191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    4:32 What Sirius means by a “bluff” is that Peter was the Secret Keeper. They would think no-one use a “weak, untalented” person. Kinda easy to understand tho-

  • @gracedurden334
    @gracedurden334 6 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    or nicholas flamel could be the secret keeper

    • @davidspring4003
      @davidspring4003 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Grace Durden 1: he’s not as old as the school.
      2: he died shortly after Book 1.

    • @dominickfrost641
      @dominickfrost641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      David Spring F

    • @joeelliott9305
      @joeelliott9305 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      flamel went to durmstrang

    • @tabeahadley7
      @tabeahadley7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Joesaka vlogs. He went to Beauxbatons Academy according to Pottermore

    • @llmeekos
      @llmeekos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      he went to beauxbatons, not durmstrang.

  • @kiaralouise6980
    @kiaralouise6980 7 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    _Loving_ the *Harry Potter* vids!!! 😍 You're the best!!

  • @selnawar
    @selnawar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You've added a guitar for Coco. Thats so cool! I can't wait for this movie!

    • @eruyommo
      @eruyommo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plamena Radevska When does it get released in there?

  • @203maxwell
    @203maxwell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    4:03 If the information can’t be tortured out of you, it means that Peter Pettigrew was so terrified of Voldemort that he gave up the information before Voldemort tried to do anything. If he had just been brave there’s nothing Voldemort could have done.

  • @novoeduardoac1248
    @novoeduardoac1248 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I am so grateful this isn’t a “The Hat is secretly a Horcrux”
    I’ve been seeing a lot of crackpot theorists coming up with crazy Horcrux theories lately
    And this channel has a record cof Fawkes cof

  • @arion1633
    @arion1633 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    About Sirius and his decision not to be secret keeper. Regulus had died before James and Lily died. After his death Sirius appreciated his brother more. Maybe even felt guilty that he wasn't there for his brother like he had before they had started Hogwarts. So maybe Sirius was afraid that he'd let down his other brother, soul-brother James.

  • @TheJaredtheJaredlong
    @TheJaredtheJaredlong 7 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Maybe when Harry told Albus all Albus heard was gibberish, or was incapable of putting what he heard into memory.

    • @darkamora5123
      @darkamora5123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TheJaredtheJaredlong No the nature of the fidelius charm would prevent him from talking about it, period, unless he's the secret keeper.

    • @aisling5485
      @aisling5485 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Harry: The Sorting Hat takes your choice into account
      Albus * hears *: the iugfdi isfgviduysdfiv takes your choice into account
      albus: Ok

  • @crzytng87
    @crzytng87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wouldnt you think that it's the headmaster who is th secret keeper if so when Dumbledore is killed, instead of dying naturally and appointing a new secret keeper, isnt the charmed broken which would make it so that harry would be able to talk about it cuz the charm broke with Dumbledore's death

    • @asmonull
      @asmonull 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Possibility: it's not headmaster as a person, but instead headmaster (or headmaster and staff) as position - meaning that person with the title of headmaster is the secret keeper. By that, secret is transfer only when "position" dies (so, gets removed/canceled) or possibly gets empty - in case of which I assume Dumbledore had his successor already set as Snape, so effectively (school's magic - including headmaster portraits being obedient) immediately passed on.

  • @hugomlpaixao
    @hugomlpaixao 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Sirius's plan is actually pretty good. Had Peter not told Voldemort the location, Voldemort would have probably gone after Sirius. If Sirius was killed and he was the Secret Keeper, everyone who knew the secret would have become Secret Keeper, thus diluting the Fidelius Charm's power.

    • @MorganasTurtle
      @MorganasTurtle 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, assuming anyone else actually knew their location. If not, then it would have been better for James or Lily to be the secret keeper.

    • @hugomlpaixao
      @hugomlpaixao 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Morganachan Wormtail, Lupin and Dumbledore (at least) knew

    • @andscifi
      @andscifi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't see any reason why it wouldn't have been best for either James or Lily to be the keeper. They could still have told someone if they needed to know, but that person couldn't have told anyone else.
      On top of that if James or Lily died it would probably mean the charm wasn't needed anymore.
      Also, can you double up on the charm? For example make Lily the Secret keeper, but then make James the secret keeper for the knowledge that they even used the charm. That way they couldn't even tell anyone that the charm was used. Or make the secret the knowledge of the prophecy that caused the problem. Or both.
      All in all, I think they bungled the use of this charm in a number of ways.

    • @hugomlpaixao
      @hugomlpaixao 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      andscifi that is all true, but maybe James or Lily weren't made secret keepers because, if one of them was captured and killed (assuming they wouldn't have stayed home all the times), the charm's power would have been diluted and baby Harry's safety would be compromised. But I agree the best option would be to choose either Lily or James (or both) to be secret keeper(s). But what if the Fidelius Charm doesn't wprk when one is his own secret keeper?

    • @SorchaMorency
      @SorchaMorency 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah! but they would have to leave the house to let people know the secret in order to have visitors or get supplies because, you know, you can't create food with magic.

  • @emmasumter1273
    @emmasumter1273 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Question - If someone who didn’t know a secret being kept was eavesdropping on a conversation between two people who did know of the secret and were talking about it, would they be inaudible to the person who didn’t know the secret? Sorry if it’s confusing, I was just wondering what happens in that situation

    • @justcallmemarcus
      @justcallmemarcus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would imagine that if someone was eavesdropping on a conversation that came into a subject or secret under the fidelus charm then that part of the conversation would get muffled or for some reason be inaudible (the eavesdropper would suddenly get a raging case of tinnitus or something).

    • @drewzeeeverything265
      @drewzeeeverything265 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Astrid Summers they would be like every one else they would hear It and know it but be physically incapable of sharing said information

    • @drewzeeeverything265
      @drewzeeeverything265 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or at least that seems logical then again that us muggel logic and thus Is rendered issues though it does not make it untrue

    • @velvet_turtle7918
      @velvet_turtle7918 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Drewzee well no cause anyone who's not a secret keeper can't pass along the secret making your statement impossible

    • @Yal_Rathol
      @Yal_Rathol 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's entirely possible the fidelius charm acts as a perfect counter to spies because if you become unable to discuss certain topics by some compelling magic, you know you're being listened to.

  • @hridaymehta5782
    @hridaymehta5782 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Also, given that the sorting hat belonged to gryffindor and has such a strong connect with the house, I think the actual secret keeper of the sorting hat would be a real loyal gryffindor who could pull the sword out of the hat, which would add so much more meaning to the hats secret as just as Slytherin left behind a special chamber for a loyal slytherin (sounds like an oxymoron, but let's just keep it that way), even gryffindor left behind a secret for the bravest of gryffindors (heir of gryffindor, anyone ?) And given that Slytherin valued bloodlines, so it's obvious that his descendants would be the heir to him, gryffindor valued bravery and it only makes sense to entrust his greatest secret upon the bravest of his house. Maybe the other founders didn't even know about this. If Voldemort killed the sorting hat it would raise too many complications, given the hat was just an ordinary hat enchanted by the four founders who were very skilled wizards and witches. Who would enchant the hat now ? So I think it fits that a true gryffindor, one who could pull out the sword from the hat can say this. Furthermore, this adds so much more meaning to the fact that Albus is the only person Harry shares this bit of information with, because he is not only sharing the information of the fact that the sorting hat is partial, but this is one of the very very few people that know what's coming before the sorting. This is how close Albus and harry were, and this is how brilliant a father harry was. Screw you cursed child.

    • @86upsmaya
      @86upsmaya 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hriday Mehta thats a gooone @supercarlin brothers

    • @yuliaryn5567
      @yuliaryn5567 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      This means that Neville is a secret keeper too

    • @AeternalDesigns
      @AeternalDesigns 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh god, now everyone's gonna know!

    • @kartikchatlani2968
      @kartikchatlani2968 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how did everyone else find out about the sorting hat at the ceremony if there were no brave gryffindors to tell them? they wouldn’t be able to see the sorting hat and they couldn’t find out about it. no one else would be a secret keeper, and even if they did know about it, they wouldn’t be able to pass on the information.

  • @cofeespear4992
    @cofeespear4992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Seems to me that Fred just wanted to mess with Ron and that the sorting hat never really got properly documented.

  • @oliwiaszo
    @oliwiaszo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    even though all that seems really possible and pretty cool, i feel like considering this was at the start of the first book, jk didnt know at the time that her plot points would be so closely examined and was a little more careless with it, maybe only adding the mystery of the hat just for the reader's experience but idk i could be wrong considering that theory adds up really well

  • @moyangthered
    @moyangthered 6 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    There's this thing on my door! WHAT IS IT!!!???

    • @Lauren-vf4ft
      @Lauren-vf4ft 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      BennyisaChicken It’s Dumble

    • @themaskedone9134
      @themaskedone9134 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Lauren-vf4ft Dore

    • @bamb1etta_basterb1ne
      @bamb1etta_basterb1ne 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@themaskedone9134 you need more likes

    • @bamb1etta_basterb1ne
      @bamb1etta_basterb1ne 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Srikar Baru Oh My God How Do You Not Get This.
      Its When He Said What If We Had A Secret Keeper On A Doorknob its A Joke ok

    • @barryo2905
      @barryo2905 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bamb1etta_basterb1ne woosh

  • @Trafeustassgirl95
    @Trafeustassgirl95 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    A theory on why they keep it hidden from students, is because their traits will be more dominant.
    Think about it -- when you're happy, are you more likely to conquer anything with bravery, wisdom, loyalty, or ambition, or would you be more likely to do that with fear? Fear pulls out our primal need to protect yourself, [and sometimes friends,] through our personality.

  • @rogofos
    @rogofos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    5:15 store the information about how to breathe, to make an apocalipse.

  • @sumiabbasi7607
    @sumiabbasi7607 7 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    I am SOOO sick of people discriminating Hufflepuff house, I mean it is the house that "takes the rest" but that is because Helga Hufflepuff didn't discriminate anyone she was very excepting person no matter who you are and no one takes it seriously!!! Its like we are house of the average boring people, I cant stand Hufflepuff discrimination arrrggggg but I love this channel to much so sorry for the long paragraph.

    • @leeshdee9269
      @leeshdee9269 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      The song doesn't even say that. It says that Helga Hufflepuff will "Take the lot, and treat them all the same". The Sorting Hat NEVER makes mention that Hufflepuff "takes the rest".

    • @jonahf.277
      @jonahf.277 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      potter_crashers Slytherin ftw

    • @kelseycheng6542
      @kelseycheng6542 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Sorry to be such a Ravenclaw but *accepting

    • @raptorus7773
      @raptorus7773 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Amen! #Hufflepuffpride!

    • @RainyDays2790
      @RainyDays2790 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      we got newt scammander, tonks and deadpool in our house just sayin

  • @peyton7283
    @peyton7283 7 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    However at the end of the last movie doesn't Harry tell his son about the hat when he was worried where he would be sorted?!?

    • @operandwriter
      @operandwriter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He said in the video that the house was damaged by Voldemort enough that the Fidelius Charm broke.

    • @sarah_7814
      @sarah_7814 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      PEHeventing perhaps because once the keeper dies others become keepers then dumbledore was a keeper and those he told like harry became keepers as well and could pass that information onto his son

    • @kimondiomis6950
      @kimondiomis6950 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dumbledore would have been the secret keeper and after his death wouldn't everyone that has gone through Hogwarts and gone through the sorting ceremony become the secret keepers of the sorting hat?

    • @J.Devitt
      @J.Devitt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He addressed that near the end of the video, broskis.
      I don't know if his theory is correct or not, but it makes the most sense to me so I think it is.

    • @linarozomoreno7042
      @linarozomoreno7042 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      u r right...didnt think bout it that way..... "nice one James"

  • @gadolinium6429
    @gadolinium6429 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Maybe this... the current headmaster is the secret keeper. One Dumbledore is the secret keeper he tells snape. Snape dies, but he told harry, sobnow harry is secret keeper

    • @glenpalmer6161
      @glenpalmer6161 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Gadolinium64 no.. if the secret keeper dies, all those who know about the secret become secret keepers, and the power of the fidelius charm dilutes. So not just Harry, everyone else who got sorted would be the secret keeper.

    • @robertbruce5816
      @robertbruce5816 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The secret keeper is the sorting hat. if the hat dies then there's no reason to try and find out in the first place, the ultimate contingency.

    • @nickymouse1698
      @nickymouse1698 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure, because if Dumbeldore , than Snape were the secret keepers, no one actually told to the students. But nape did not tell Harry so there goes that. Maybe Nicolas or his wife were the secret keeper.

  • @sara-n5q
    @sara-n5q 5 ปีที่แล้ว +389

    No one:
    JK Rowling: The sorting hat is gay

  • @JoelDowdell
    @JoelDowdell 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Opening doors? No, too small, protect the moon with the Fidelius charm. Poor werewolves.

    • @user-xy6yj3fo9y
      @user-xy6yj3fo9y 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joel Dowdell
      Omg, what a clever idea!

    • @Tempesteditzz500
      @Tempesteditzz500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😹

    • @anerdwithaswitch9686
      @anerdwithaswitch9686 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But how do you think all the space agencies would feel when they suddenly couldn't calculate their missions?

    • @user-xy6yj3fo9y
      @user-xy6yj3fo9y 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheBrony/GamerPerson
      Hmm, I suppose only telling agency employees who aren't werewolves about the moon would be discrimination... but might solve the issue from a technical standpoint...

  • @silverandexact
    @silverandexact 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is the kind of quality HP content I live for
    Edit: WHY THE HUFFLEPUFF HATE?

    • @jordan6287
      @jordan6287 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shea Pierson wasn't Newt Scamander a Hufflepuff? He's pretty smart and brave imo

    • @silverandexact
      @silverandexact 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jordan - yes! So is Eddie Redmayne IRL. Author and smart, compassionate human John Green is a Hufflepuff, as is Dwayne Johnson. And Jo Rowling has said "in many, many ways, Hufflepuff is my favorite house."

  • @errantvenatus6732
    @errantvenatus6732 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Sirius' idea does make since if you look at it from the point of if Sirius died everyone who had known would then be a secret keeper so a secret keeper who wouldn't be though of as the secret keeper would be safer

  • @johnnooyen461
    @johnnooyen461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if you use the fidelius charm to copyright spells.
    1. create a spell.
    2. use the fidelius charm to stop others from knowing how to cast it.
    3. advertise it using a nickname.
    4. make serious galleons.
    5. pay other spellcaster for the rights to their spells under the fidelius charm.
    6. create a commercial spell empire and become the wealthiest wizard in the world.

  • @venomissocute3448
    @venomissocute3448 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:44
    How dare you betray the Glorious HufflePuff!!! We shall fight back to it by roasting Slytherin!
    (I'm a Hufflepuff / Ravenclaw, I don't know any roasts. Pls help)

  • @yazmina2031
    @yazmina2031 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    In case you haven't seen this: www.pottermore.com/news/fantastic-beasts-film-title-revealed-the-crimes-of-grindelwald
    It says that "Newt’s older brother, Theseus Scamander (Callum Turner), and his fiancée, Leta Lestrange (Zoë Kravitz)" What do you guys think about that? We already know that Newt isn't exactly fond of his older brother and now his possible friend/love interest is Theseus's fiancée, that's going to lead to some tension between the two siblings. Any theories? @SuperCarlinBrothers

    • @ladyalfhildrforestofvioletmist
      @ladyalfhildrforestofvioletmist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ooooo I didn't know that yet! Intriguing!

    • @helenhodges2656
      @helenhodges2656 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yazmina Robinson wow

    • @dabula2768
      @dabula2768 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well the fiancée’s last name is lestrange that name is the last name of bellatrix one of Voldemort’s most loyal servant

    • @saaleh1
      @saaleh1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dabula Technically Bellatrix is only a Lestrange by marriage, by blood she is a Black. It’s Rodolphus that was a Lestrange by blood.

    • @helenhodges2656
      @helenhodges2656 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      VoltrixHD is that A theory?

  • @dawnieday177
    @dawnieday177 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I do have a question. Could somebody who doesn’t have the secret learn the information for themselves? For example, in the doorknob anecdote, I’m sure somebody would figure out to put their hand on the knob, turn and push. How would that work? Would they become secret keepers too?

    • @________522
      @________522 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quing beE Interesting question, but that could be the exception not the rule as one of my best teachers have told me. Maybe the magic would stop them from finding out?

    • @Kaycee_Ninnie
      @Kaycee_Ninnie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      No. The book specifically says that even if Voldemort was looking into the Potters' living room window he would still not know they lived there because he didn't know the secret. As such I don't think you can "learn" the secret without being told it.

    • @dawnieday177
      @dawnieday177 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, thank you very much!

    • @hosni2
      @hosni2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's like muggles not seeing the leaky cauldron, they just can't do anything with that place because they can't see it.

    • @Jacqueline-rl8pu
      @Jacqueline-rl8pu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      so in the case of the doorknob would you just not be able to see the entire doorknob?

  • @kitsunekodomo
    @kitsunekodomo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You said something that made me realize another thing about Harry, he's technically a seventh son. The Weasley family took him in and started treating him like a son in the second book. It is also possible that he is the seventh son of a seventh son, even though we don't don't hear anything about Arthur's family. What we do know is that there is a lot of them. Lol

  • @andkon1596
    @andkon1596 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    4:43 does that make us secret keepers?

    • @julia400
      @julia400 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      andkon159 so that means that Ben is the “real” secret keeper now...

    • @fffrenchvanilla
      @fffrenchvanilla 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WOOAAAHHHH 😨

  • @emiljohannesson4929
    @emiljohannesson4929 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I have forgot how to open a door

    • @bottzx6284
      @bottzx6284 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Emil Johannesson alohamora

    • @drewzeeeverything265
      @drewzeeeverything265 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Emil Johannesson yeah me to, or I'm just lazy

    • @drewzeeeverything265
      @drewzeeeverything265 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ulti184 the kids. I have a meeting with the kids. I have a meeting with the kids are in a strangers car insurance Quote from the airport and your family and friends of the year! This is a great day and night and day out of my favorite part was the only thing I can see the difference between the two most important thing is that you can get a free shopping cart and the kids are in a strangers car. The kids are at the same time as a whole lot of fun and exciting news you'd be able to do the booty scooty.

    • @jaz8426
      @jaz8426 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      alohamora

  • @user-rq6bp6su3h
    @user-rq6bp6su3h 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    When the secret keeper dies, it dilutes the effect to everyone who was trusted before. Like when the whole order becomes secret keepers for Sirius' house after his death. I think Sirius' bluff was based on the idea that if he died, this would happen.

  • @A_ManchesterUnited_Fan
    @A_ManchesterUnited_Fan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the movie (Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone), Ron used 'Alohomora' on a door but it didn't work. He had to find a specific flying key in order to unlock the door.