@@owengosling4731 well known z list celeb? Presenting love island isn't something to boast about. I don't read anything about so called celebs as it's mostly if not all bollocks.
Agreed. She is only known for around four reality shows so anyone who doesn't watch them has no idea who she is. It's still sad, nonetheless, but let's not act like she was the second coming of Christ...
Cycle London well obviously because she was in the public eye and a tv personality so of course it’s going to get more coverage, people die because of overdoses everyday so why did the media go crazy after Michael Jackson’s death? Because he’s a celebrity and is well known
We really should be kinder to people. Like not abusing and assaulting your boyfriend. Only a truly terrible person would knock about the person they're supposed to love
A woman has died after falling from a height in Stoke Newington The death is not thought to be suspicious, according to police This event last july next to flacks 3k a month flat apparently this woman couldn't pay her rent and was gonna be made homeless
Seriously. If we were talking about a 40 old man who committed suicide over physically abusing a 27 year old woman and getting caught NO tears would be shed. If women want equal rights we NEED to start speaking out and defending men's rights in this issue. No one has the right to put their hands on another person. No One. Caroline Flack acted as a coward in life and she will be perceived as a coward in death. If people have a problem with that Too Bad.
People who are saying she deserved it because she allegedly hit her partner.. Should we condemn all domestic abusers to the death penalty? And everyone arrested for assault? Have some compassion, noone here knows the full story, but what we do know is that a woman is dead who should be alive. If we give up on each other so easily, what hope is there for the world?
Another celebrity selling their story trying to make it about them instead of the person who died. How very sad. She must be that desperate and in need of cash to accept interviews on someone she probably never even met
I totally agree, katona is the first celeb to try and make this all about her but she wont be the last. What a total insult to Caroline flacks family. Celebrities doing this boil my piss. Have some dignity for christs sake.
@@debbiejames3096 wait a minute.... Caroline reached out to Kerry... And Kerry gave her great advice... So what now your slating Kerry for pushing to have some steps made to make changes...... Thats all she's doing... But believe wgat u will. U know what words your next comment should consist of ... #BeKind
The problem is narcissistic personality types can't handle getting caught and punished for their abusive behaviours. She would never have learned, her only regret would have been being found out.
Yh it's gone too far when it drives people to suicide though hasn't it. Domestic abuse is awful and those people should be justly punished but this isnt justice it's just the press running peoples minds and the power they have
@@ryangoodyer9450 Totally mate, I dislike the media intensely myself. But, at the same time people like her used the system when it suited her. I'm not going to virtue signal and pull punches here, I didn't know her and thousands of people commit suicide every day.
In fairness kerry has suffered for years with depression and been harassed on social media she has a good insight into what Caroline was going through.
TBH I just can't work out how everyone is rallying round someone who 'allegedly' tried to murder their partner 'in their sleep'. Yep, whilst they were sleeping, an ultimate trust situation, ultimate cowardly attack - this wasn't a mistake, it was a murder attempt, a serious assault from what I gather. Yeah she was a human being, not a very nice one apparently who attacked someone who trusted her whilst sleeping and then panic called the Police after being assaulted, the police who have statements and footage/recordings - importantly enough to have a case and take it to court for prosecution. I don't see her as a hero I don't see her as a victim, or stunning or brave, I see her as someone who was actually dangerous and likely had serious mental health issues I don't understand why the TV media/personalities are rallying round this. Replace 'Caroline' with 'Carl' and imagine how different the story would be across the media. It's ridiculous. She was a menace and now she is gone.
God does everything for a reason. Let us not forget she almost beat her boyfriend to death with a lamp, if a male were to do what she had done to her man the male would have been attacked 100x times more and it would've been on the news more. I respect Caroline and believe no one should commit suicide - however, if she were alive to this day, who knows what the future would've held.
The only reason why that incident with Caroline and her bf became known was cos they were both famous. Many women throw stuff at their partners. We just don't see it on the news 24/7. Let's say she did do that. So what. Ppl make mistakes. She was human like the rest of us. We are so judgemental. God knows most of us have done much worse. Caroline should be alive today.
its wrong to troll anyone , the press has the right to publish news of crimes whether famous or not , the tragic suicide of Caroline has taken precedence to the crime she was accused for , abuse of men is not widely known but there are ;female perpetrators anyone who abuses anyone clearly has some kind of mental disorder or neurosis of some kind and The CPS felt sufficient evidence was at the crime scene , Victims often want to retract statements even if the victim is 6ft 4inches and male no one can defend themselves when heavily asleep and then attacked , i feel very very sad for Carolines family and friends
For a minute there she said it’s all hearsay, I thought she was in atomic kitten. Really don’t get this girl, Poor Caroline leaves this dreadful world Within no doubt to a better one And yet she talks about herself and promote herself love the way she cries/tries to and then talks normal.
I love how the world always makes out that it is a tragedy when a ''celebrity'' dies. It's no more or less sad than a cancer patient dying right now in hospital. Just because the cancer patient hasn't gone on TV and doesn't have worldwide acknowledgement of their existence, doesn't make their existence any more or less important. And as for the CPS pursuing a trial. Well, frankly, the outpouring of scorn towards this is baffling. If this had been a man who had been identified as allegedly committing domestic violence...no doubt the majority wouldn't be saying, ''oh leave him alone, he's going through a hard time. They should drop the case.'' or ''They shouldn't have been pursuing a court case, he's dead because of this''. Now don't get me wrong, it doesn't gladden me in any way that she's taken her own life. Infact, I think it's a bloody shame that she got to such a point of helplessness and depression that she could not see any other way of dealing with her situation. Rest in peace.
Shocked when i heard the news on Saturday. Utter shocking news ! I don't think it has nothing to with press, court, etc... It wasn't even a big deal. She wasn't going to do a life stretch in prison. May have not even done community service. She had family, friends, home, could work for any tv station, and many job opportunities. She was attractive, vivacious, liked by most, etc... I can't believe that this court hearing, some online trolls, few articles would've been the cause. She must have major mental issues that she may have been battling for a long while, and it was things just mounting up over time, OR many have taking some pills/alcohol which messed her head up and she was feeling in very low mood, and that ignited a moment of pure madness. Only 40 years of age! Very sad! I'm still sad and a little depressed since the news on Saturday! If any of your family & friends are struggling mentally get them help.
Love island should be scrapped anyway, playing people’s emotions and real life situations where’s the good in that? If that’s entertainment then the world is a sad place tbh...
She was in a band called Atomic Kitten which started off in 1998 and was around for a couple of years they had a couple of big hits, then think had a solo career! I agree with what Liam Wood and R KC have mentioned.
A man hits a woman over the head with a lamp luckily avoiding killing her. Gets arrested, feels guilty, ashamed and has mental heath issues dealing with his own behaviour. He falls into a pit of paranoia and self doubt about how it will look in the publics eye. She refuses to press charges sparking talk of continued abuse. It all gets to much for him so he kills himself. Does he get the sympathy of the nation or is he labeled a violent coward? Sadly the double standard angers me more than the events have upset me.
Social media is getting out of hand how many more people have to die for them to stop being so disgusting and hurtful towards other people with feelings
Only 20% of ppl have social media, they are not the voice of the majority. They are just the loudest. Im sure normal people are more forgiving than that, and to the press have to consider the stories they put out and think about the person who those stories are about that they are actually people someones mother, daughter sister etc.
I just can't with this! Caroline was allegedly an abuser and didn't like facing the music. "To whom much is given much is excepted." Us working class with no privilege know how to get up with our mental illness and no millions she choose not to, her choice! Megan Markle has had it for weeks and many other's but they get on with it because we all have a choice. I believe Caroline was selfish and entitled and unfortunately for the first time life did not go her way and she bailed! Caroline at 35 dated a 17 year old Harry Styles and no one saw a problem with that!!! Her issue's started way before last week. My Condolences to the family but let us not be hypocrites. I know using Jimmy Savile is extreme but he never had his day in court either however, we do not sympathize with him either.
I would not wish what happened to Caroline on anyone. However, Kerry is the last person that should be making any such comments regarding this..... It seems to me very obviously, almost all of Kerry’s ‘career’ has been based upon her ‘tragic tales of woe’. The word hypocrite is not a strong enough word to describe!
Evil social media... yes, let's blame open platforms of communication. Not being accused of DA or losing your career or money or status or friends or fame. Lets all blame social media!
if a man was exposed for beating his partner he would’ve got the same if not more media exposure and abuse and would not of been seen as “mistakes to learn from” ever
I've been disabled for almost 40 years and I never considered suicide. Meanwhile, she was a rich well known star, a far better life than most of us and yet we live...
It is sad and anxiety and depression any mental health isn't a joke but I found I cut my self at my lowest and no one helping me I got suicide letter done so it's not just celebrity's its people we hope she rest in peace and leave the family alone. x
why couldn't they just drop the case the man she supposedly hit wanted it dropped I get it hitting is wrong but if he was as injured as alleged he looks pretty damned physically ok now but now he is more damaged because the woman he loves is gone forever
It's unbelievable how so many people are making about themselves! And the fact she even released private text messages is seriously wrong on all levels!
Can someone please tell me what people were saying on social media about her??? Maybe I haven’t seen anything because I’m in Canada. Is she referring to the meme when people were saying “this is Caroline watching love island in the dark because she broke her lamp”? Because I don’t feel like that alone can cause her to commit suicide. From what I saw, the public on social media we’re supporting Caroline & ripping apart the new host saying she couldn’t fill Caroline’s shoes. I don’t know why people keep saying fans on social media were the problem. Someone please fill me in if I’m missing something!
What Samaritans do? They are helpless too. I have gone through some rough time and all they did, they sent me to the hospital for few hours. I was strong that I survived, but there are people who are completely weak. She must have gone through alot sadly :'(
Samantains are okay but they r really nice people I talk to them by email cuz I was too scared to talk to them on the phone but I did try to call them no answer but I’m trying
Death can not be in vain , but men kill themselves in droves they're a statistic. Why is it it takes a woman killing themselves that all of a sudden we need to change. I hope Caroline finds peace in heaven , but men are not even considered a human.
This is an awful thing to happen.... But... Just for a moment, please consider this point.... If this was the other way round, if the person charged with assault was a MALE celebrity who, when faced with the same show trial scenario went on to take their life... Would the media be acting in the same way?
How does Kerry Katona know it's about social media? Caroline Flack was feeling a lot of pressure about the upcoming court case where there was footage of her and her boyfriend about to be shown. Katona just uses this interview to talk about herself.
Her boyfriend actually refuted these accusations, he said he wasn't a victim and loads of people have come forward to say that Caroline was a nice person. If he had been accused and then his partner denied he attacked her, then he should have beeneft alone. Caroline killed herself because she was accused of something she hadn't done and she suffered from severe depression. Trolls played on her insecurities and are responsible for this.
@@MrSec84 we'll if the claims of abuse was false then prove it was false...ffs mental health effects everyone and lately men between a certain age are being neglected and they are taking their own lives but nothings being done ,,this woman takes her's and its... action must be taken to prevent it...regardless of gender suicide in young people is reaching new heights and must be addressed
I’m sorry for Caroline flack death but CPS are not responsible for her death but her boyfriend responsible he was the one calling the police in the first place , the CPS have to do a job following up on the case . She is no different to the public , the public have to deal with cases as this but nobody says anything because celebrities are not bother about them . Everyone has to realise that if they attack another they have to take responsibility that action can be taken there not one rule for celebrities and one rule for the public people have to responsibility for their actions without blaming others , question her boyfriend he was the one involving the police not the CPS they were just doing there job
It's not just social media and the press that drove Caroline to kill herself. She had just found out that her case was going to go to trial and she was looking at a possible conviction. I think she fucked up and felt her whole world come crashing down and didn't know how to put it all right again. So sad x
Anyone going into celebland needs to have a thick skin. The only good thing that should come out of this is more help for mental health issues. Not focusing on social media trolls and bullies.
Caroline Flack accidentally smashed her boyfriend over the head with a lamp while he was asleep. He rang the police saying she was trying to kill her, whats that if its not abuse?
Yes yes! More tears for the violent abuser. I'm sure we'd all be crying if a man brutally beat his girlfriend with a lamp, was due to face charges but took his own life. Poor thing.
@Dave Byrne Grief seems to have become a competitive sport these days, a few years back a young lad I worked with died suddenly, the outpouring of grief for his death was ridiculous, people who were bearly acquainted with him were getting tattoos of his name and there was more counselling going on in the office than work!
Slack Slack Bit full on, but considering 40% of all ‘reported’ domestic violence is woman on man... and this is the first case I’ve seen in the press I’d say he might have a point.
Her and Kerry had been messaging over Xmas. Kerry had been giving her advice. So she was there. Caroline had reached out to her. That is why Kerry is upset because she didn’t know if she’d done enough.
My question here is why is this so a big deal ? Because she was famous? I feel more sad about people who are poor and than get bullied and they kill themselves! But media dose not will show the lower class problems because it dosnt sell well . And before everyone has a go on me ( yes I have a general problem with bulling) !!!!!!!!!
@@k.e.wThe problem is it's a vicious cycle. The tabloids produce trash because we consume it, and we consume it because the tabloids produce trash. And like it or not we are so heavily programmed and influenced by the media. If they were to change the way they produce the news cycle and the nature of the stories they churn out, it would be for the betterment of everyone.
@Red Boah Sutherland it sad and I understand is never good to be in this situation . But how many families in the UK suffering from far worse and it will not shown on TV . Or show all the poor homeless people.
Fudge Fan no. Print light-hearted things in a way that isn’t sensationalizing hatred and online bullying. A lot of these tabloid headlines are hateful opinions turnt into “fact”.
@@wealthy5702 print light hearted things? are people in the uk losing the plot?..... crimes celebs and politicians have been guilty of in recent times, ASSAULT, FRAUD, DRUGS, PROSTITUTION, PEDOPHILIA, RAPE, RACISM, HOMOPHOBIA, GROOMING , SEXUAL ABUSE .....we have a right to know who is influencing our tv screens
Fudge Fan Openly suggesting fascism and no one bats an eyelid. If an individual can't handle the negative side of social media, then it is their individual responsibility to remove themselves from social media. It's always someone or something elses fault these days
Then kill off the genre of celebritys who write or give stories to newspapers that feed them the headlines .. Kerry katona, Jordan price, kardasians... Everyone's trying to get paid regardless of others. Micheal barrymoore went through the same sort of thing. Many celebs do it's part of their life... Very very very few people are squeaky clean
I don't want to be harsh here. But just imagine if Caroline Flack was a man and was accused of hitting his partner over the head with a lamp. Would the reactions be the same??
Exactly. I heard a caller on BBC radio 2 today saying we should be doing more for people who suffer with mental health issues, she then (and I quote) said "Especially women". I shook my head in disbelief. Equality is a myth.
love island needs to be canned. its a disgrace of a show and theres been 3 deaths so far. Jeremy Kyle show was axed after 1 death, Love Island has 3 deaths and producers are keeping it running...
@@shirleycameron7718 there's 2 other contestants that was also found dead last season I think. Nothing positive comes out of programs like this best just cancel the show
I saw on Snapchat that the love island owners held a meeting saying that they don't know about the shows future after what happened with Caroline and if they do cancel it I will be happy cause in my eyes that show is toxic ASF
I think she is referring to the other two people who were formerly contestants on Love Islands who have died. The news has said Flack is the third Love Island related death
thing is, I don't think Caroline's death has anything to do with her being a celebrity, it's to do with her own relationship struggles in her personal life.
satnav1980 that’s waffle celebrities are not all bad they just have chosen to take career and live their dream it’s only because society can’t control their own problems and try become something they end up failing to succeed in life
I dont care if she assaulted her bf he stuck with her and no one knows if the assault was what was said in the tabloids because they exaggerate always. Wish she got help before she did what she did
and to know now that it wasnt even really assault. Her boyfriend already had the bloody scar on the forehead when he came home. The blood on the bed was caroline from attempting to suicide. 💔
@we need to eat the babies My theory, she thought her friend who was staying with her had a key on her when she popped to the shops and would catch her in time.
True but right now is not the time and place and it seems like a lack of tact and common decency to talk about it and compare it when somebody just died because of bullying.
can we just take a moment to think on how Flack would have been treated had she been a man in this situation? People certainly wouldn't be using the 'bekind' hashtag or talking about her career or how lovely, yet troubled she was...
100% when it’s a man he’s an animal for lifting his hand to a woman when it’s the other way around it’s tragic and shut up Kerry stop being so dam fame hungry
Its as simple as reporting facts and people giving those facts being ready to take accountability of what they are saying hence if there is a defamation, it can be targetted at someone. This way people think b4 they spread liea and stupid opinions without basis. It is also about being unbiased and not demonising people. Leave the courts to decide rather than drawing ur conclusions from biased one sided agenda filled media.
Or she tried killing her boyfriend, a few year after assaulting her ex and paying him to keep him quiet, lost her job and she knew her career and any respect she had would be down the drain when the body cam footage come out in court on a public trial
Tom TK we’ll noted Tom, her past is well documented; I was referring (rather badly it appears) more to the ever increasing media frenzy despite some people directly accusing them of being a part in the final tragedy. Kerry Katona has even been dragged out for a comment!
@@TomTKK she did not try to kill him there is no evidence that this was anything other than a fight that got out of control if that but nobody will listen to the only one left who was there had they listened to him she might still be alive
@Kelly Day Kerry Katona is absolutely awful. Her suggestion that famous people are the only ones who face online bullying is unfounded and stupid. Everything that comes out of her mouth is cringeworthy.
YES.....but..............She,s "GOT" some valid points...........KK "has" had her fair share of troubles etc...I "always" find KK honest/up-front. x x x x
One pretty lady kills her self and the world goes mad but every day men are dying of depression & injustice every day and nothing!
Nothing to do with “white” just the word “male” is enough
damo010 it’s because she’s in the public eye, of course it’s going to get more coverage because she was a well known tv personality🤦♂️
IEnglish 96 :D
@@owengosling4731 well known z list celeb? Presenting love island isn't something to boast about. I don't read anything about so called celebs as it's mostly if not all bollocks.
damo010 : Prettier gals.
Rest in peace Caroline . Kerry Katona looks like what she looked like back when Atomic kitten started. She looks very beautiful and youthful.
Sick of all this coverage. If it had been an ordinary person who took their life it would get zero airtime.
Cycle London Let it be a lesson!
Agreed. She is only known for around four reality shows so anyone who doesn't watch them has no idea who she is. It's still sad, nonetheless, but let's not act like she was the second coming of Christ...
Cycle London well obviously because she was in the public eye and a tv personality so of course it’s going to get more coverage, people die because of overdoses everyday so why did the media go crazy after Michael Jackson’s death? Because he’s a celebrity and is well known
But if it was an ordinary person she wouldn’t have gotten so much hate and this situation wouldn’t have happened
@Virgo Sensation your not known by everybody so obviously not
We really should be kinder to people. Like not abusing and assaulting your boyfriend. Only a truly terrible person would knock about the person they're supposed to love
A woman has died after falling from a height in Stoke Newington
The death is not thought to be suspicious, according to police
This event last july next to flacks 3k a month flat apparently this woman couldn't pay her rent and was gonna be made homeless
Yep
Speaks volumes.
@@chokesmc so what your saying here is that Caroline didn't have 'real' problems?? Or is it just because she's a celebrity her problems aren't real?
@@karyoot70rice26 some people can't let the dead rest in peace, the comments above prove this. very sad world. Love to all and less judging
Karyoot70 Rice yeah she had no problems no where near the women who killed herself for being made homeless
Seriously. If we were talking about a 40 old man who committed suicide over physically abusing a 27 year old woman and getting caught NO tears would be shed. If women want equal rights we NEED to start speaking out and defending men's rights in this issue. No one has the right to put their hands on another person. No One. Caroline Flack acted as a coward in life and she will be perceived as a coward in death. If people have a problem with that Too Bad.
Social media is so toxic. I hate it. I miss the 90s
Minor celebrity uses death of other celebrity for small amount of airtime
Remember that Landlord who was accused of Murder and being labelled a "creepy pervert" by tabloids when he was completely innocent
Just turn off Social Media. It can be done.
They say bullying on line. Can't people BLOCK OR DELETE.
THEY THRIVE ON THE BULLYING.
I've never had Facebook, never mind the rest of them
People who are saying she deserved it because she allegedly hit her partner.. Should we condemn all domestic abusers to the death penalty? And everyone arrested for assault? Have some compassion, noone here knows the full story, but what we do know is that a woman is dead who should be alive. If we give up on each other so easily, what hope is there for the world?
Another celebrity selling their story trying to make it about them instead of the person who died. How very sad. She must be that desperate and in need of cash to accept interviews on someone she probably never even met
I won't even watch the video ... just came for the comments.
Moebius well done guys. Well done on exercising the worst aspects of your character.
I totally agree, katona is the first celeb to try and make this all about her but she wont be the last. What a total insult to Caroline flacks family. Celebrities doing this boil my piss. Have some dignity for christs sake.
@@debbiejames3096 wait a minute.... Caroline reached out to Kerry... And Kerry gave her great advice... So what now your slating Kerry for pushing to have some steps made to make changes...... Thats all she's doing... But believe wgat u will. U know what words your next comment should consist of ... #BeKind
The problem is narcissistic personality types can't handle getting caught and punished for their abusive behaviours.
She would never have learned, her only regret would have been being found out.
Yh it's gone too far when it drives people to suicide though hasn't it. Domestic abuse is awful and those people should be justly punished but this isnt justice it's just the press running peoples minds and the power they have
What a horrible thing to assume. Take your closed-minded opinion elsewhere.
@@ryangoodyer9450 Totally mate, I dislike the media intensely myself. But, at the same time people like her used the system when it suited her.
I'm not going to virtue signal and pull punches here, I didn't know her and thousands of people commit suicide every day.
@@Stale_Cupcakes No
Doesn't take long for these "celebrities" to come crawling out of the woodwork
Agreed.
God they truly do - we had Matthew Wright this morning
In fairness kerry has suffered for years with depression and been harassed on social media she has a good insight into what Caroline was going through.
Especially the z list ones
She’s been in a ket hole for a fortnight
Ketchup and HP what a legend
TBH I just can't work out how everyone is rallying round someone who 'allegedly' tried to murder their partner 'in their sleep'. Yep, whilst they were sleeping, an ultimate trust situation, ultimate cowardly attack - this wasn't a mistake, it was a murder attempt, a serious assault from what I gather. Yeah she was a human being, not a very nice one apparently who attacked someone who trusted her whilst sleeping and then panic called the Police after being assaulted, the police who have statements and footage/recordings - importantly enough to have a case and take it to court for prosecution.
I don't see her as a hero
I don't see her as a victim, or stunning or brave,
I see her as someone who was actually dangerous and likely had serious mental health issues
I don't understand why the TV media/personalities are rallying round this.
Replace 'Caroline' with 'Carl' and imagine how different the story would be across the media. It's ridiculous. She was a menace and now she is gone.
Ooft that was harsh.. #bekind
Indeed, she appears to have been a monster in her private life.
God does everything for a reason. Let us not forget she almost beat her boyfriend to death with a lamp, if a male were to do what she had done to her man the male would have been attacked 100x times more and it would've been on the news more. I respect Caroline and believe no one should commit suicide - however, if she were alive to this day, who knows what the future would've held.
The contestants on her show faced the same kind of scrutiny. They just didn’t get paid. Or tried to smash their boyfriends head.
The only reason why that incident with Caroline and her bf became known was cos they were both famous. Many women throw stuff at their partners. We just don't see it on the news 24/7. Let's say she did do that. So what. Ppl make mistakes. She was human like the rest of us. We are so judgemental. God knows most of us have done much worse. Caroline should be alive today.
its wrong to troll anyone , the press has the right to publish news of crimes whether famous or not , the tragic suicide of Caroline has taken precedence to the crime she was accused for , abuse of men is not widely known but there are ;female perpetrators anyone who abuses anyone clearly has some kind of mental disorder or neurosis of some kind and The CPS felt sufficient evidence was at the crime scene , Victims often want to retract statements even if the victim is 6ft 4inches and male no one can defend themselves when heavily asleep and then attacked , i feel very very sad for Carolines family and friends
and this is exactly why people should be kind to one another.
“Who are these sources? Ketchup and HP?” Will be the most iconic quote on British tv EVER
agreed hun x
For a minute there she said it’s all hearsay, I thought she was in atomic kitten. Really don’t get this girl, Poor Caroline leaves this dreadful world Within no doubt to a better one
And yet she talks about herself and promote herself love the way she cries/tries to and then talks normal.
I love how the world always makes out that it is a tragedy when a ''celebrity'' dies. It's no more or less sad than a cancer patient dying right now in hospital. Just because the cancer patient hasn't gone on TV and doesn't have worldwide acknowledgement of their existence, doesn't make their existence any more or less important.
And as for the CPS pursuing a trial. Well, frankly, the outpouring of scorn towards this is baffling. If this had been a man who had been identified as allegedly committing domestic violence...no doubt the majority wouldn't be saying, ''oh leave him alone, he's going through a hard time. They should drop the case.'' or ''They shouldn't have been pursuing a court case, he's dead because of this''.
Now don't get me wrong, it doesn't gladden me in any way that she's taken her own life. Infact, I think it's a bloody shame that she got to such a point of helplessness and depression that she could not see any other way of dealing with her situation. Rest in peace.
Wow it took only 9 seconds before it was all about kerry
SHE'S AN OLD SPUNK BUCKET
This is sad but it’s not a tragedy.
Definitely....
Nah, its sad and tragic.
I wasn't a fan but anybody dying early is tragic ... unless theyre a Jimmy Savile or Prince Andrew type.
@@MoebiusUK Oh right so sex abusers are ok do die just not famous domestic ones....
Shocked when i heard the news on Saturday. Utter shocking news !
I don't think it has nothing to with press, court, etc... It wasn't even a big deal. She wasn't going to do a life stretch in prison. May have not even done community service. She had family, friends, home, could work for any tv station, and many job opportunities. She was attractive, vivacious, liked by most, etc...
I can't believe that this court hearing, some online trolls, few articles would've been the cause. She must have major mental issues that she may have been battling for a long while, and it was things just mounting up over time, OR many have taking some pills/alcohol which messed her head up and she was feeling in very low mood, and that ignited a moment of pure madness. Only 40 years of age! Very sad!
I'm still sad and a little depressed since the news on Saturday! If any of your family & friends are struggling mentally get them help.
it was obvious she had issues regarding herelf - she was a serial cougar which tells me she was insecure about herself on many levels
Love island should be scrapped anyway, playing people’s emotions and real life situations where’s the good in that? If that’s entertainment then the world is a sad place tbh...
JCP _ : Seems lucky for me that I've missed all of this L I etc, not had a TV since 94.
She’s loves milking any situation to get some limelight.
she really does
This is online bullying, this is exactly an example of bringing people down..
She is talking about people like u . Mean
Who is this Kerry katona?????
She was in a band called Atomic Kitten which started off in 1998 and was around for a couple of years they had a couple of big hits, then think had a solo career! I agree with what Liam Wood and R KC have mentioned.
Well said Kerry ❤️ RIP Caroline ❤️I wish she could have given her self more time to HEAL 💔
Caroline almost KILLED someone, are we supposed to excuse that??
A man hits a woman over the head with a lamp luckily avoiding killing her. Gets arrested, feels guilty, ashamed and has mental heath issues dealing with his own behaviour. He falls into a pit of paranoia and self doubt about how it will look in the publics eye. She refuses to press charges sparking talk of continued abuse. It all gets to much for him so he kills himself.
Does he get the sympathy of the nation or is he labeled a violent coward?
Sadly the double standard angers me more than the events have upset me.
Not fair on Caroline... poor woman
Social media is getting out of hand how many more people have to die for them to stop being so disgusting and hurtful towards other people with feelings
Agree I bet this tragedy won't be the last.
Only 20% of ppl have social media, they are not the voice of the majority. They are just the loudest. Im sure normal people are more forgiving than that, and to the press have to consider the stories they put out and think about the person who those stories are about that they are actually people someones mother, daughter sister etc.
She put herself in a bad situation and couldn't handle the consequences
Cyber bullying should be prosecuted as a crime
'makes a mistake' is that what domestic abuse is called now
I just can't with this! Caroline was allegedly an abuser and didn't like facing the music. "To whom much is given much is excepted." Us working class with no privilege know how to get up with our mental illness and no millions she choose not to, her choice! Megan Markle has had it for weeks and many other's but they get on with it because we all have a choice. I believe Caroline was selfish and entitled and unfortunately for the first time life did not go her way and she bailed! Caroline at 35 dated a 17 year old Harry Styles and no one saw a problem with that!!! Her issue's started way before last week. My Condolences to the family but let us not be hypocrites. I know using Jimmy Savile is extreme but he never had his day in court either however, we do not sympathize with him either.
i’m sure she tried to kill her boyfriend why’s everyone forgetting that part
woah there! equality is only valid when it suits!
She didnt, get your facts right
The truth is she could quite easily have. That is why they went ahead with the prosecution. Because of what the officers saw when they arrived.
'Who are these sources? Ketchup and HP?'
Impeccable banter
I would not wish what happened to Caroline on anyone. However, Kerry is the last person that should be making any such comments regarding this..... It seems to me very obviously, almost all of Kerry’s ‘career’ has been based upon her ‘tragic tales of woe’. The word hypocrite is not a strong enough word to describe!
Evil social media... yes, let's blame open platforms of communication. Not being accused of DA or losing your career or money or status or friends or fame. Lets all blame social media!
Why’re ppl disliking this?? It’s a disgrace
I bet she had not spoken to Caroline for months before she died.
Apparently she posted on social media saying that she’d no longer be posting on social media 🤦🏻♂️
Born in 1964 there was no social media like today and life was better in those days!!!
Christ, couldn't she for once not make it about her.
This is what public shaming does to people
if a man was exposed for beating his partner he would’ve got the same if not more media exposure and abuse and would not of been seen as “mistakes to learn from” ever
I've been disabled for almost 40 years and I never considered suicide. Meanwhile, she was a rich well known star, a far better life than most of us and yet we live...
It is sad and anxiety and depression any mental health isn't a joke but I found I cut my self at my lowest and no one helping me I got suicide letter done so it's not just celebrity's its people we hope she rest in peace and leave the family alone. x
why couldn't they just drop the case the man she supposedly hit wanted it dropped I get it hitting is wrong but if he was as injured as alleged he looks pretty damned physically ok now but now he is more damaged because the woman he loves is gone forever
It's unbelievable how so many people are making about themselves! And the fact she even released private text messages is seriously wrong on all levels!
Can someone please tell me what people were saying on social media about her??? Maybe I haven’t seen anything because I’m in Canada. Is she referring to the meme when people were saying “this is Caroline watching love island in the dark because she broke her lamp”? Because I don’t feel like that alone can cause her to commit suicide. From what I saw, the public on social media we’re supporting Caroline & ripping apart the new host saying she couldn’t fill Caroline’s shoes. I don’t know why people keep saying fans on social media were the problem. Someone please fill me in if I’m missing something!
I got to brace myself 5 seconds before i start faking my tears...I'm on tv got to show some compassion for my 5 minuets of fame
What Samaritans do? They are helpless too. I have gone through some rough time and all they did, they sent me to the hospital for few hours. I was strong that I survived, but there are people who are completely weak. She must have gone through alot sadly :'(
Samantains are okay but they r really nice people I talk to them by email cuz I was too scared to talk to them on the phone but I did try to call them no answer but I’m trying
Death can not be in vain , but men kill themselves in droves they're a statistic. Why is it it takes a woman killing themselves that all of a sudden we need to change.
I hope Caroline finds peace in heaven , but men are not even considered a human.
This is an awful thing to happen....
But...
Just for a moment, please consider this point....
If this was the other way round, if the person charged with assault was a MALE celebrity who, when faced with the same show trial scenario went on to take their life...
Would the media be acting in the same way?
I thought this interview was about Caroline...
How does Kerry Katona know it's about social media? Caroline Flack was feeling a lot of pressure about the upcoming court case where there was footage of her and her boyfriend about to be shown. Katona just uses this interview to talk about herself.
And then, what a joke when she says she herself put a conversation with Flack on social media!!!
If the rolls were reversed and her boyfriend beat her up and later took his own life I doubt there would be little sympathy for him or his family
Her boyfriend actually refuted these accusations, he said he wasn't a victim and loads of people have come forward to say that Caroline was a nice person.
If he had been accused and then his partner denied he attacked her, then he should have beeneft alone.
Caroline killed herself because she was accused of something she hadn't done and she suffered from severe depression.
Trolls played on her insecurities and are responsible for this.
@@MrSec84 we'll if the claims of abuse was false then prove it was false...ffs mental health effects everyone and lately men between a certain age are being neglected and they are taking their own lives but nothings being done ,,this woman takes her's and its... action must be taken to prevent it...regardless of gender suicide in young people is reaching new heights and must be addressed
@@taffy5366 totally agree
I’m sorry for Caroline flack death but CPS are not responsible for her death but her boyfriend responsible he was the one calling the police in the first place , the CPS have to do a job following up on the case . She is no different to the public , the public have to deal with cases as this but nobody says anything because celebrities are not bother about them . Everyone has to realise that if they attack another they have to take responsibility that action can be taken there not one rule for celebrities and one rule for the public people have to responsibility for their actions without blaming others , question her boyfriend he was the one involving the police not the CPS they were just doing there job
Don’t forget about the hundreds of NORMAL people who take their own lives every day, most of whom have actual real problems.
Everybody is obsessed with social media and what other people think.
Me thinks Kerrys social media is not as clean as she expects of others.
It's not just social media and the press that drove Caroline to kill herself. She had just found out that her case was going to go to trial and she was looking at a possible conviction. I think she fucked up and felt her whole world come crashing down and didn't know how to put it all right again. So sad x
Anyone going into celebland needs to have a thick skin. The only good thing that should come out of this is more help for mental health issues. Not focusing on social media trolls and bullies.
Agreed.
Caroline Flack accidentally smashed her boyfriend over the head with a lamp while he was asleep. He rang the police saying she was trying to kill her, whats that if its not abuse?
Yes yes! More tears for the violent abuser. I'm sure we'd all be crying if a man brutally beat his girlfriend with a lamp, was due to face charges but took his own life. Poor thing.
Imagine dying from social media in 2020
Its not just celebrities, ordinary people can be ruined by social media and the internet. Once posted, it is out there forever.
@Dave Byrne Grief seems to have become a competitive sport these days, a few years back a young lad I worked with died suddenly, the outpouring of grief for his death was ridiculous, people who were bearly acquainted with him were getting tattoos of his name and there was more counselling going on in the office than work!
So true, very true words.
M B this generation thrives on trying to be famous get on tv and act superior to each other lack manners or even respect and attention
But social media did not cause this.
M B it‘s not only one generation. People from all ages are trolling. Maybe not the 80 years old, but i have seen lots of 50-60 year old trolling
People just love one another and be there make a better world peace
Really? Wow, if only someone had thought of that before.
Brian Owens Maybe don’t batter your sleeping boyfriend with a lamp and not be able to take the criticism for it
The world is greedy, pretentious and obnoxious as ever.
TOOOOOOOOO True
*celebrities
Amen!
@MALVINDINHOawww incel's have feelings too
Slack Slack Bit full on, but considering 40% of all ‘reported’ domestic violence is woman on man... and this is the first case I’ve seen in the press I’d say he might have a point.
This thread of comments 👎🏻👎🏻👇👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻👇🏻 EVERYTHING wrong with the world. No compassion, no respect, vile HATE.
💕💕👍
It's no longer 'social' media.. it has become 'anti social'.
Where were all these celebs when the press were hounding Caroline. They only ever care when someone dies.
Dawn Porter supported her
Exactly ;-)
Adam Knights where were all these people when Harry and Meghan were saying the same thing?
Her and Kerry had been messaging over Xmas. Kerry had been giving her advice. So she was there. Caroline had reached out to her. That is why Kerry is upset because she didn’t know if she’d done enough.
Kerry messaged her loads of times, telling her to stay strong and ignore the abuse.
The internet is over-rated and taken far too seriously. Get a life instead. Speak to your neighbour. Walk your dog.
Ironically saying this on the internet.
@m vl 100%
he says while seeking validation on the internet
Correct sir. Too much bolloxology online and this Love Island garbage is for morons.
Join a Scrabble club
I don't look at these as celebrities...sad times 😞
Nufc Magpies 123 I think he means that he doesn’t look at them like celebrities that she looks like a legend or something special
@Nufc Magpies 123 no they aint , they are reality stars, kerry katona fame died years ago
Bam Boozle : fatty blonde in the offing.
Reminds of Di Dorrs.
She will be totally forgotten about very soon thats life unfortunately just a grain of sand in a large pit
@@darrenbull3215 on the face of it yes but obviously very individual to the persons loved ones
And like that the line of the privileged was push further
My question here is why is this so a big deal ? Because she was famous? I feel more sad about people who are poor and than get bullied and they kill themselves! But media dose not will show the lower class problems because it dosnt sell well . And before everyone has a go on me ( yes I have a general problem with bulling) !!!!!!!!!
@@k.e.wThe problem is it's a vicious cycle. The tabloids produce trash because we consume it, and we consume it because the tabloids produce trash. And like it or not we are so heavily programmed and influenced by the media. If they were to change the way they produce the news cycle and the nature of the stories they churn out, it would be for the betterment of everyone.
@Red Boah Sutherland it sad and I understand is never good to be in this situation . But how many families in the UK suffering from far worse and it will not shown on TV . Or show all the poor homeless people.
I just feel like too many people just want to be famous these days, instead of just living a normal life...is this greed?? 🤔
vanity mate vanity... the illusion of fame and being important
StabbyMcBlade I don’t wanna be famous, I just wanna be rich.
StabbyMcBlade and yet when Harry and Meghan expressed this they were attacked.
Very self serving
@@mw6070 no, Meghan thought that royalty and celebrity were the same thing 👍
"controlled press" in other words only print what makes us look good or loads of money.......
Fudge Fan no. Print light-hearted things in a way that isn’t sensationalizing hatred and online bullying. A lot of these tabloid headlines are hateful opinions turnt into “fact”.
@@wealthy5702 print light hearted things? are people in the uk losing the plot?..... crimes celebs and politicians have been guilty of in recent times, ASSAULT, FRAUD, DRUGS, PROSTITUTION, PEDOPHILIA, RAPE, RACISM, HOMOPHOBIA, GROOMING , SEXUAL ABUSE .....we have a right to know who is influencing our tv screens
Exactly lol.
Fudge Fan Openly suggesting fascism and no one bats an eyelid. If an individual can't handle the negative side of social media, then it is their individual responsibility to remove themselves from social media. It's always someone or something elses fault these days
Then kill off the genre of celebritys who write or give stories to newspapers that feed them the headlines .. Kerry katona, Jordan price, kardasians... Everyone's trying to get paid regardless of others. Micheal barrymoore went through the same sort of thing. Many celebs do it's part of their life... Very very very few people are squeaky clean
With all due respect though, Barrymore did kill someone by hammering a large pool thermometer up their arse. Less said about Barrymore the better 👍
Inspectah deck that’s not true very few people are squeaky clean what is this gimmick there are people who live normal lives as a celebrity
I say kill off the Journalists who hound these people 24-7...... one word for them RATS
Add westbrook. Vile.
@@StabbyMcBlade He was not found guilty of that
I don't want to be harsh here. But just imagine if Caroline Flack was a man and was accused of hitting his partner over the head with a lamp. Would the reactions be the same??
David Garton that’s not being harsh that’s making a point a fair 1 but we all still feel for her family 🤙
Exactly. I heard a caller on BBC radio 2 today saying we should be doing more for people who suffer with mental health issues, she then (and I quote) said "Especially women". I shook my head in disbelief. Equality is a myth.
Sorry but was any of this confirmed or her found guilty? No.
In the neo liberal world order we have been allocated to bottom of the pyramid, so the answer is a resounding no!
C White she did smash him over the head that’s facts
love island needs to be canned. its a disgrace of a show and theres been 3 deaths so far. Jeremy Kyle show was axed after 1 death, Love Island has 3 deaths and producers are keeping it running...
Three ? What in the world happened ?
@@shirleycameron7718 there's 2 other contestants that was also found dead last season I think. Nothing positive comes out of programs like this best just cancel the show
I saw on Snapchat that the love island owners held a meeting saying that they don't know about the shows future after what happened with Caroline and if they do cancel it I will be happy cause in my eyes that show is toxic ASF
@@lifeclip9878 it's because too much emphasis is placed on looks. Zero on intellect.
18 suicides a day ...lest we forget..
How did the other two die and why ? Tq
@@shirleycameron7718 huh?
I think she is referring to the other two people who were formerly contestants on Love Islands who have died. The news has said Flack is the third Love Island related death
@@dftfire oh I see. My apologies 😊♥️
They are rarely celebs though so the media doesn’t care
Celebrity is the real problem in our culture.
Quite true. Society values the valueless (celebrities), who in reality offer nothing to us. Or those brain dead idiots who follow them.
100%👏👏
@@satnav1980 I agree. Love Island and shows like TOWIE are what I call Brain Dead TV. Most " Reality " shows are staged anyway.
thing is, I don't think Caroline's death has anything to do with her being a celebrity, it's to do with her own relationship struggles in her personal life.
satnav1980 that’s waffle celebrities are not all bad they just have chosen to take career and live their dream it’s only because society can’t control their own problems and try become something they end up failing to succeed in life
I dont care if she assaulted her bf he stuck with her and no one knows if the assault was what was said in the tabloids because they exaggerate always. Wish she got help before she did what she did
Yes he is a victim and they tend to stay with the abuses as there 2 scared
and to know now that it wasnt even really assault. Her boyfriend already had the bloody scar on the forehead when he came home. The blood on the bed was caroline from attempting to suicide. 💔
@@imcalledrosie8242 oh come on hes 6ft and caroline was little
Modern world - everyone's a victim and no personal responsibility.
Also everyone judge jury executioner....
Be kind people are going through a lot behind close doors
@we need to eat the babies My theory, she thought her friend who was staying with her had a key on her when she popped to the shops and would catch her in time.
@@MebXVII ...catch someone in time when they hang themselves? Get a grip!!
@@antwango on ho someone sad something on the internet!!
She’s absolutely right. This is such an important conversation we need to have in this country.
Meanwhile over 100 veteran heroes have taken their own lives in the past 2 years.....yet not one mention of it in mainstream media.
So true.....
Well said.
Well said
Exactly 👏
True but right now is not the time and place and it seems like a lack of tact and common decency to talk about it and compare it when somebody just died because of bullying.
can we just take a moment to think on how Flack would have been treated had she been a man in this situation? People certainly wouldn't be using the 'bekind' hashtag or talking about her career or how lovely, yet troubled she was...
Karsten Moerman god she’s gone man stop!! Me me me I i I self self self god just stop selfishness man pure selfishness
@@lucynaomi5263 what does your comment even mean
Chris Brown...
FACTS
@@kern111 it means #BeKIND
Sorry but if it was a bloke that had beaten his wife I don't think everyone would be defending his actions as just "a mistake to learn from"
100% correct.
Double-standards are double-standards.
so true.
Jacob Riley ??? She beat her boyfriend
100% when it’s a man he’s an animal for lifting his hand to a woman when it’s the other way around it’s tragic and shut up Kerry stop being so dam fame hungry
Jacob Riley no he didn’t the trial was literally meant to be next week
More regulation on free speech incoming. Not the first interview on this topic I’ve seen where someone is asking for more regulation of the press.
Its as simple as reporting facts and people giving those facts being ready to take accountability of what they are saying hence if there is a defamation, it can be targetted at someone. This way people think b4 they spread liea and stupid opinions without basis. It is also about being unbiased and not demonising people. Leave the courts to decide rather than drawing ur conclusions from biased one sided agenda filled media.
No they should regulate the press from being massive c¿nts.
So, the poor lass kill herself because of the media and the media responds by getting as much air time out of it as possible. Couldn’t make it up!
Or she tried killing her boyfriend, a few year after assaulting her ex and paying him to keep him quiet, lost her job and she knew her career and any respect she had would be down the drain when the body cam footage come out in court on a public trial
@Sharpy-Stirling I was pointing out that the media was blamed for it and the media is subsequently making the most out of it.
Tom TK we’ll noted Tom, her past is well documented; I was referring (rather badly it appears) more to the ever increasing media frenzy despite some people directly accusing them of being a part in the final tragedy. Kerry Katona has even been dragged out for a comment!
@@TomTKK she did not try to kill him there is no evidence that this was anything other than a fight that got out of control if that but nobody will listen to the only one left who was there had they listened to him she might still be alive
@Sharpy-Stirling this is her first arrest dumbass and this is not a abuse situation he never said he was an abused man
Heinz and HP should sue Katona for defamation of their products. Neither ketchup or brown sauce have ever slagged off Catherine Flack.
dmel I laughed way too hard
@Kelly Day Kerry Katona is absolutely awful. Her suggestion that famous people are the only ones who face online bullying is unfounded and stupid. Everything that comes out of her mouth is cringeworthy.
Omg this is just what life should be about...i was actually thinking about her sauce comment and this made me chuckle. Thank u. 😂
So many cruel comments. Suicide is not a joke
Neither is domestic abuse.
@@BatTaz19 I know I've been a victim of it. Also the person who did this to me committed suicide so I am well aware of what I'm talking about.
Real suicide is not a joke
@@johnjibuly1378 so Caroline flacks is not a real suicide?
Bat Taz yes it isn’t but so isn’t someone being shamed and abused every single day for their past mistakes! Bullying and judging is no joke too
I thought she was there to be interviewed about Caroline? Not herself.
YES.....but..............She,s "GOT" some valid points...........KK "has" had her fair share of troubles etc...I "always" find KK honest/up-front. x x x x
@@alisonlaing5626 No shes just a massive narcissist with her head placed firmly up her rectum
That's what I was thinking too :o/
well said
Another self-obsessed "Has been",she will do / say anything for publicity...her biggest fear?..is that she becomes irrelevant.
stole this: Meanwhile over 100 veteran heroes have taken their own lives in the past 2 years.....yet not one mention of it in mainstream media.
True so we should be compassionate and more understanding to all This tragedy and yes others as well.RIP C.F.