Staclan: “We *could* guide you, but that would be boring.” *A clan is heavily in danger and might not survive.* Staclan: “As we said, that would be boring if we helped you survive this disaster instead of just watching.”
Starclan runs the clans like I run the sims. “Oh quick, we need to help the guy we sank all our time and energy into! Hm? Everyone else? What about them? If they die in the house fire that’s their own business.”
I remember thinking that "A STARLESS Clan" would be about a clan refusing to listen to StarClan after the chaos Ashfur caused (who was a StarClan cat and was there thanks to StarClan cats), but it ended up being about a leaderless clan. The plot sounds good, interesting, and shows what would happen if leader and deputy disappeared, but I would have liked to see a clan become independent or see that they can live without the constant intervention of StarClan, which is a clan made of imperfect cats just like the living clans.
I think "A Starless Clan" might also be talking about Splashtail and Podlight? Like they're not exactly Atheists, but they're extremely disrespectful towards Starclan. And they kicked out / killed anyone in power that did respect Starclan (ex: Reedwhisker, Frostpaw, Harelight). Though idk why they made Mothwing suddenly think that a clan needs Starclan's approval for a leader. Seems ooc
Starclan: *lies to Squirrelflight about her being barren to convince her to take in leafpools kits as her own* Also Starclan: why should we let such a deceitful cat into Starclan? (To Squirrelflight 💀)
@@hawktalon7890I know! Yellowfang was the most sensical one there. but she still was in the wrong, didn’t she tell squirrelflight she won’t ever have kits on her own?
they nearly banned squilf and leafpool from starclan yet let ashfur (an attempted murderer) in just cuz he “loved too much” judging from the events of the broken code accepting ashfur was one of the worst decisions they made
I have always found StarClan VERYYY confusing. I feel like the more lore they add to try to clear things up, the more they just end up confusing things. Can we just go back to the first few books, when the magic system was STILLLLL complicated but at least a little more. . .simple?😫
Harestar: doesn’t believe frostpaw Starclan: hippity hoppity time to try and kill your young (instead of just telling you that splash tail is evil, pfft? Why would we do that?)
Starclan has always been complicated. Many times it has said that Starclan is not clear. Why would they be? Wouldn’t be better to keep the plot going then just to end the book/plot there? If Starclan told them,it wouldn’t make it interesting.
Starclan interactions: Medicine cat app: :O StarClan: hey Medicine cat app: So what’s the prophecy? StarClan: I dunno, cheese? Medicine cat app: Huh? Hello? StarClan: I’m not here goodbye.
I would not be surprised if, after what Bluestar said, the rest of Starclan agreed, and for a while just let things happen up until they started to realize that events that would destroy the rest of the clans would happen, and so a bunch of camps and politics were broken out among all of the cat groups of Starclan. So you know, there are some, like Bluestar, that believe in a non-interference policy, others who believe that interference is the only way to keep Starclan safe, and others who are just right down the middle. Or maybe Bluestar had no authority on making her claim in the first place, and it was HER personal policy for HER clan, but everyone else is all gung-ho for divine intervention and Bluestar feels like she is the only voice of reason in an entire clan of idiots. That would honestly not be such a bad plot choice, but to keep up the mystery of Starclan, I would not mind if this was told to us through the perspective of the other clans rather than being told to us through a direct narrative, at least for a few book series' up until a definitive canon is needed to be told to answer all of the questions. Or they could just leave it up in the air shortly afterward, I do not know.
Starclan has defintely been stupid since they let in murderous Ashfur into Starclan when he should've been sent to the Dark Forest in the first place yet Curlfeather was immediately sent to the Dark Forest so Starclan is full of bs when it comes to determing who goes there and who does not
(SPOILERS INCOMING) their excuse for letting ashfur into starclan was cuz he “loved too much” yet hes the same cat who nearly murdered three cats, then after he died he proceeded to seal off the connection to starclan, possessed bramblestar’s body and wreaked havoc on thunderclan, kidnapped squirrelflight into the dark forest and DAMN NEAR DESTROYED BOTH AFTERLIVES AND THE LIVING CLANS just because he wanted squirrelflight to love him instead of bramblestar i doubt “loving too much” is much of an actual excuse for that much chaos he caused for him to be let into starclan, so yeah, starclan’s reasoning for why some cats are accepted into their ranks or sent to the dark forest dont make any sense to me
Ever since it must mentioned, I never really liked the idea that a cat NEEDS some sort of connection to Starclan, it just never made sense. The only way a Starclan cat could visit a cat from the clans, said clan cat needed faith in Starclan to work, atleast that what happened with Mothwing. It’s just, I feel like the authors or editors or whoever is working on these books don’t care enough about the story or characters to put enough care into it’s continuity.
Warriors has a horrible case of long running series disease. Not having a series bible doesn't help. Instead of keeping things consistent, they drop ideas for the sake of going back to old ones (StarClan can totally interfere vs they can't). I wish they gave the authors/editors/whoever develops the stories more time to make it all make sense. But at least they haven't had a comics-style multiverse-induced reboot yet, lol.
What’s weird, is that some times starclan themselves don’t even know the messages. I swear half of the omens are just random thoughts the starclan cats got at 3 am.
Yellowfang: cinderheart HAS to be a medicine cat! Also yellowfang when jayfeather tells cinderheart about cinderpelt Yellowfang: OMG WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT!?
@@amcselili EXACTLY. or the: Leafpool you gotta have kits! Later: DARN YOU LEAFPOOL, YOU JUST WANNA GO TO HELL? Leafpool: didn’t yellowfang do the sam- SHUT UP
i immediately thought of the kin of your kin prophecy speaking of which, that prophecy is one of those prophecies that dont make sense to me. i can understand jayfeather and lionblaze being part of the prophecy, but then theres dovewing, who im pretty sure is technically kin of your kin of your kin (dovewing being the daughter of whitewing, whitewing being the daughter of cloudtail, and cloudtail being the nephew of firestar). plus, i think the writers planned to make hollyleaf part of the three, but they scrapped that idea cuz they couldnt come up with a power, so that also defeats the meaning of kin of your kin.
Starclan |~ I so I don’t care what happens so I send out prophecies that don’t send our for my own amusement! -Frostpaw |~ I love how starclan helps me!
If StarClan were to just tell the cats that Splashtail is evil, there would be no story. The arc would be 1 book long. The Erins shot themselves in the foot by having StarClan physically interact with the cats by sending storms and by having them directly communicate with them. In this arc, the Erins seem to be fixing that by having StarClan be more hands-off and aloof like they were in TPB, but it doesn’t work too well now because we all know that StarClan can just tell the cats things so it seems like they’re letting Splashtail run wild for some reason. This “they sent the storm to back up Frostpaw” scenario is your assumption. It is not explicitly stated in the book that that is what happened so it is easy to just see the storm for what it was: a storm. However, it is understandable why you would make that assumption because StarClan has been very hands-on for years and years now. It’s a conundrum that the Erins have to live with now which directly hinders their storytelling. TLDR, StarClan is a mess. I believe the storm was just a storm.
Yeah, I too believe the storm was just a storm and not starclan but that starclan knew about it so they sent the warning to Frostpaw to: 1. Prove she's a legit medicine cat. 2. Save the Windclan kits in general. I don't think they sent the storm, just the warning.
I remember being so excited at the beginning of the broken code thinking starclan would actually be villains even though I knew the imposter was ashfur, I thought he was just the tip of the iceberg and there would be a whole ass cabal of starclan cats with an evil plan but no. Just ashfur doing dark forest stuff bc the only dead cats who are villains have to be from the dark forest. Even though ashfurs rise is starclans fault for enabling him and letting him into starclan in the first place
The change fromt he oryginal series is basically a difference between someone who understands religion and is a believer writing about it VS someone who wants to have magic in their world but not make it entirelly "magic/fantasy". Because Star Clan / afterlife in Warriors is no longer a religion. It's a magic system, and a very frustrating at that. Because magic systems should have rules to work, limitations etc, but those were NEVER established because THAT WAS NOT THE POINT OF STARCLAN. But it still leads to such magical deus ex machinism it makes my head hurt.
What I would love is if they realised this issue and chose to make it into a plot point instead, say maybe something had corrupt starclan and there was a plot about restoring starclan to its original state
Bright Guardian Akira: The most powerful thing StarClan can do is give a leader nine lives. Also StarClan: *literally kills a specific non-random warrior by sending down a tree*
My god I just had a really heated discussion about Onestar and Mudclaw on a different video. Here’s my summary: I think Mudclaw may have made a bad leader because of his actions in life. He probably would declare war on the clans, and try to rule the forest. Also, Darktails death would have been completely different without Onestar being Onestar. He wouldn’t have had the major decisions to help them win, and if Mudclaw became leader, he may not have even helped the other clans. So maybe StarClans interference was a good thing, especially because he was trying to kill a cat of his own clan. And, (I can’t remember if I’m right) but Onestar made him deputy, so he still had a chance to succeed him, if being leader was the thing he wanted(which I think it was) then he could have just stayed deputy on the hope that one day he would lead. The fact that he tried to kill Onestar just so he could become leader, was a bad sign. I think StarClans interference with the falling tree was good (or who knows it could have been just a falling tree) because it got rid of Mudclaw and gave them a place to gather.
Is it actually canon that Starclan sent a tree to fall on Mudclaw though? I always assumed that was just the living cats' interpretation of the event? I always got the impression that the clans just assume natural phenomena happens through Starclan, but we aren't really meant to take that literally. Like yeah a lot of it is very abrupt and coincidental, but that's plot (not my favorite plot with the wind tree thing and the storm ending quickly, but maybe i missed something on my reading cause i didnt think it was Starclan specifically for that. Sometimes storms do stop like that, just felt like heavy handed writing). They can warn the cats about events, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're causing them. They are inconsistent for sure especially with the leafpool squirrelflight stuff but the other examples specifically, I dunno. Sidenote but yeah I also hate what they did to my girl Mothwing thooo
Yup. The clan cat interpreted it as a Starclan action. Just like they do with many things that are clearly not Starclan action. And the tempest in wind is not even said by any character to be caused by Starclan, this is purely a theory. The reason the storm was abrupt and coincidental is because it's a book and the writing isn't perfect. As soon as the tempest did what it's supposed to they got rid of it like they do everytime we have a weather related issue.
starclan: *so heyy frostpawww were gonna send a fire to shadowclan, and u have to tell someone but theyre not going to believe you but thats your fault ok bye.*
Frostpaw:you pretty much have infinite power over the clans. So umm...Can you come kill my evil former crush or something? Starclan: *No we will only create unnecessary drama so we are entertained*
My theory is that the next leader of riverclan will do something brave or other during splashtail's rein that makes the other cats support them, or maybe the next leader needs to learn a lesson during splashtail's rein. And therefore, starclan cannot kill splashtail
Starclan: *saying they don't have control over things and sleeping* Readers: yeah right Medicine cat: OMG ITS A SIGN Jokes aside, I'm convinced you have a better chance at freedom in the dark forest than starclan
Ah, ☕ ⭐✨ StarClan! 🌌 I'm convinced they are more Evil then the Dark Forests Cats. Let's not forget how StarClan punished YellowFang killing two of her Kits leaving the only one that will turn Ruthless and Evil in the future.
I feel like the cats are actually the ones that which interpret the weather as signs from starclan and starclan go with it, by sending visions which warn about the weather because starclan can predict the weather rather than control it. Perhaps they are more manipulating situations as they arise. Also maybe firestar has changed this since joining starclan.
I’m choosing to believe that Mothwing says that RiverClan needs a StarClan-approved leader as a political strategy, since none of the other Clans would accept a leader who wasn’t approved by StarClan and would continue to undermine RiverClan’s leadership
Theory: StarClan knew Onestar would be a bad leader, and killed Mudclaw (who would have been a good leader) to teach Tallstar a lesson. Basically “friends of your friends can still be enemies.”
honestly obvious starclan meddling or no, its personally extremely funny to imagine mudclaw's death as just a massive coincidence like could you imagine
If starclan threw a tree on mudclaw why didn’t they throw a tree on tigerstar brokenstar scourge darktail mapleshade thistleclaw hawkfrost sol ashfur and LITERALLY ANY BAD CAT EVER
You know its bad when you start agreeing with Spalshtail logic like I agree with his views on starclan the way he goes about it is bad but is he wrong?
I don't think StarClan sent the storm in Wind, but it is weird that they didn't tell at least one of WindClan's medicine cats. At the same time, it kind of makes sense that they would tell Frostpaw so the other cats could trust her. Even if StarClan told the medicine cats point-blank that Frostpaw's telling the truth, many of the non-medicine cats would still not believe it unless there was evidence to prove it. Sending Frostpaw the message that predicted the tree falling on WindClan provides that evidence.
Welp it’s time for me to give a shot at making sense of star clan so in the beginning a few book it seems that star clan mostly was just the same as medcats they receive prophecies the only difference is where they live maybe in the land of star clan more prophecies are given to the cats, now for the ability to give nine lives to leaders I have a theory so the dark forest seems to suck the life force out of the cats, so what if star clan Does the exact opposite giving them all in life but it becomes problematic so what they do is they gather that energy and give it to a alive cat. Alive cats can only getting so much of this energy which equals to them having nine lives so the whole giving leaders nine lives thing is just a way to get rid of this access energy before it becomes problematic. I am out of room the rest will be added on in the comment section.
Firestar came along and was able to make peace among the clans, leading to less cats, dying and more importantly, less leaders dying there for an excess amount of energy became problematic, but some star clan cats who disagree with bluestars, idea of star clan only being there to watch start learning to use this energy to affect the world the live cat’s are in leading to starclan overstepping their boundaries and possibly through wanting more of this power, They start to try to push the Clan cats to get along so that less leaders will die and less of this energy will be spent giving StarClan more power.
This is so relatable! First, Starclan can see destinies… how did they not know what would happen to Conderpelt. 2. Starclan can control what happens. So then WHY do they need to get special cats for a prophecy!
Starclan: *yaps about nothing*
Medicine cats: OH MY STARCLAN THIS MUST BE A SIGN!
screams!
Fr-
hehehhauh
LOL
@@Aroace_.AgenderIn I think Squirrelflight’s Hope, Starclan actually said to watch more anything as a sign. So this is very true
Staclan: “We *could* guide you, but that would be boring.”
*A clan is heavily in danger and might not survive.*
Staclan: “As we said, that would be boring if we helped you survive this disaster instead of just watching.”
Это реально всё объясняет 🤣🤣🤣
Starclan runs the clans like I run the sims. “Oh quick, we need to help the guy we sank all our time and energy into! Hm? Everyone else? What about them? If they die in the house fire that’s their own business.”
StarClan cats: *mumbling in sleep*
Medicine cats: OH MY STARCLAN IT'S A SIGN
LMAO
*Snores*
@@Starclan1871 *GASPPP*
I remember thinking that "A STARLESS Clan" would be about a clan refusing to listen to StarClan after the chaos Ashfur caused (who was a StarClan cat and was there thanks to StarClan cats), but it ended up being about a leaderless clan.
The plot sounds good, interesting, and shows what would happen if leader and deputy disappeared, but I would have liked to see a clan become independent or see that they can live without the constant intervention of StarClan, which is a clan made of imperfect cats just like the living clans.
Same
I think "A Starless Clan" might also be talking about Splashtail and Podlight? Like they're not exactly Atheists, but they're extremely disrespectful towards Starclan. And they kicked out / killed anyone in power that did respect Starclan (ex: Reedwhisker, Frostpaw, Harelight). Though idk why they made Mothwing suddenly think that a clan needs Starclan's approval for a leader. Seems ooc
we sorta had that in Vision of Shadowswith ShadowClan
Starclan: *lies to Squirrelflight about her being barren to convince her to take in leafpools kits as her own*
Also Starclan: why should we let such a deceitful cat into Starclan? (To Squirrelflight 💀)
💀
And then they both got put on trial over it. Actually insane.
@@hawktalon7890I know! Yellowfang was the most sensical one there.
but she still was in the wrong, didn’t she tell squirrelflight she won’t ever have kits on her own?
they nearly banned squilf and leafpool from starclan yet let ashfur (an attempted murderer) in just cuz he “loved too much”
judging from the events of the broken code accepting ashfur was one of the worst decisions they made
Starclan: "We will help you!"
Also Starclan: *Helps whenever the cats don't need it and then doesn't help when the cats do need it*
Starclan: sneezes
Medicine cats: OH MY ITS A SIGN!
Once I read this I sneezed
@@Sunflowertheleafwing LOL
Starclan: *Farting noises*
Medicine cats: ITS A SIGN.
Underrated comment XD
@@ConfuzzledCreationsthat I have to agree with you.
Starclan:SNORING*
Medicine cats:BAD TIMES ARE COMING
fr
It's funny because after awhile Jayfeather is just tired of the prophecys
StarClan: “Firestar is smelly,”
Medicine cats: “We must exile Firestar now!”
I have always found StarClan VERYYY confusing. I feel like the more lore they add to try to clear things up, the more they just end up confusing things. Can we just go back to the first few books, when the magic system was STILLLLL complicated but at least a little more. . .simple?😫
Harestar: doesn’t believe frostpaw
Starclan: hippity hoppity time to try and kill your young (instead of just telling you that splash tail is evil, pfft? Why would we do that?)
Starclan has always been complicated. Many times it has said that Starclan is not clear.
Why would they be? Wouldn’t be better to keep the plot going then just to end the book/plot there? If Starclan told them,it wouldn’t make it interesting.
StarClan could literally just just say “get the duck out of here” and then the clans would think it’s a sign 💀
That’s the fricking 2nd arc as far as I know
Like what @Eda said
Basically the forest burns and the cats have to find a new home or something
@@helloolleh_disthe humans destroy the forest*
@@BrownKitten-tn7sp I know, but basically what the humans did was burn the forest
@@helloolleh_dis yeah
Oh my gosh Missy's Whistlepaw artwork is beautiful! Best design for her I've seen yet
I know I love the design
Starclan interactions:
Medicine cat app: :O
StarClan: hey
Medicine cat app: So what’s the prophecy?
StarClan: I dunno, cheese?
Medicine cat app: Huh? Hello?
StarClan: I’m not here goodbye.
Also medicine cat: "It must be a sign? We have to find a cat named Cheese."
Nah grilled cheese Obama sandwich💀sorry someone had to
Starclan: *says their favorite clan is Windclan since they sleep under the stars*
Also Starclan: *throws trees at Windclan*
I would not be surprised if, after what Bluestar said, the rest of Starclan agreed, and for a while just let things happen up until they started to realize that events that would destroy the rest of the clans would happen, and so a bunch of camps and politics were broken out among all of the cat groups of Starclan. So you know, there are some, like Bluestar, that believe in a non-interference policy, others who believe that interference is the only way to keep Starclan safe, and others who are just right down the middle.
Or maybe Bluestar had no authority on making her claim in the first place, and it was HER personal policy for HER clan, but everyone else is all gung-ho for divine intervention and Bluestar feels like she is the only voice of reason in an entire clan of idiots.
That would honestly not be such a bad plot choice, but to keep up the mystery of Starclan, I would not mind if this was told to us through the perspective of the other clans rather than being told to us through a direct narrative, at least for a few book series' up until a definitive canon is needed to be told to answer all of the questions. Or they could just leave it up in the air shortly afterward, I do not know.
Bluestar's a she-cat, just so you know :)
Honestly that’s probably likely 😅
Oh crap, no sense StarClan
Name one time they HAVE made sense.
SenselessClan
Oops
@@Starclan1871 SO IT WAS YOU GUYS
@@cookiencream165Who brought me, I am here. Call me as Police Kitsune! The one who’s gun takes anything away from existence
In warriors, it's like once u die, ur brain goes airplane mode
With the whole thing with a cats' souls "fading", I think you're actually right about that...
Starclan:
Medicine cats: OH MY STARCLAN IT'S A SIGN
Some StarClan kit: i accidentally ate a ghost bug
Some crazy medicine cat: OMG A PROPHECY!!!!!!
Windclan:hello
Starclan:yeah imma make a tree fall and kill one of your cats
Star clan: *dose nothing*
A random ass tree: *gets struck by lightning*
Tiger’star: LOOK A SIGN
Firestar: Uhhhh.... I thought StarClan was on my side???
Starclan has defintely been stupid since they let in murderous Ashfur into Starclan when he should've been sent to the Dark Forest in the first place yet Curlfeather was immediately sent to the Dark Forest so Starclan is full of bs when it comes to determing who goes there and who does not
Plus juniper claw was sent to the dark forest
Dont forget frecklewish and mudclaw
(SPOILERS INCOMING)
their excuse for letting ashfur into starclan was cuz he “loved too much” yet hes the same cat who nearly murdered three cats, then after he died he proceeded to seal off the connection to starclan, possessed bramblestar’s body and wreaked havoc on thunderclan, kidnapped squirrelflight into the dark forest and DAMN NEAR DESTROYED BOTH AFTERLIVES AND THE LIVING CLANS just because he wanted squirrelflight to love him instead of bramblestar
i doubt “loving too much” is much of an actual excuse for that much chaos he caused for him to be let into starclan, so yeah, starclan’s reasoning for why some cats are accepted into their ranks or sent to the dark forest dont make any sense to me
Ever since it must mentioned, I never really liked the idea that a cat NEEDS some sort of connection to Starclan, it just never made sense. The only way a Starclan cat could visit a cat from the clans, said clan cat needed faith in Starclan to work, atleast that what happened with Mothwing. It’s just, I feel like the authors or editors or whoever is working on these books don’t care enough about the story or characters to put enough care into it’s continuity.
Warriors has a horrible case of long running series disease. Not having a series bible doesn't help. Instead of keeping things consistent, they drop ideas for the sake of going back to old ones (StarClan can totally interfere vs they can't). I wish they gave the authors/editors/whoever develops the stories more time to make it all make sense. But at least they haven't had a comics-style multiverse-induced reboot yet, lol.
Starclan: *coughs*
Medicine cats: it's a sign!
What’s weird, is that some times starclan themselves don’t even know the messages.
I swear half of the omens are just random thoughts the starclan cats got at 3 am.
Yellowfang: cinderheart HAS to be a medicine cat!
Also yellowfang when jayfeather tells cinderheart about cinderpelt
Yellowfang: OMG WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT!?
@@amcselili EXACTLY.
or the:
Leafpool you gotta have kits!
Later: DARN YOU LEAFPOOL, YOU JUST WANNA GO TO HELL?
Leafpool: didn’t yellowfang do the sam-
SHUT UP
i immediately thought of the kin of your kin prophecy
speaking of which, that prophecy is one of those prophecies that dont make sense to me. i can understand jayfeather and lionblaze being part of the prophecy, but then theres dovewing, who im pretty sure is technically kin of your kin of your kin (dovewing being the daughter of whitewing, whitewing being the daughter of cloudtail, and cloudtail being the nephew of firestar). plus, i think the writers planned to make hollyleaf part of the three, but they scrapped that idea cuz they couldnt come up with a power, so that also defeats the meaning of kin of your kin.
@@whispering_spirits literally. Way too true
Starclan: *😇😇😇*
Medicine cats: THEY ARE ABANDONING US
Starclan |~ I so I don’t care what happens so I send out prophecies that don’t send our for my own amusement!
-Frostpaw |~ I love how starclan helps me!
Mudclaw: *Realizes Hawkfrost has manipulated him and runs off*
StarClan: Nah, this guy's still evil. Someone throw a tree at him!
Starclan: *random bullshit, go!*
Medicine cats: STARCLAN IS WATCHING OVER US, THIS MUST BE A SIGN!
I guess star clan chooses when they want to be helpful
If StarClan were to just tell the cats that Splashtail is evil, there would be no story. The arc would be 1 book long. The Erins shot themselves in the foot by having StarClan physically interact with the cats by sending storms and by having them directly communicate with them. In this arc, the Erins seem to be fixing that by having StarClan be more hands-off and aloof like they were in TPB, but it doesn’t work too well now because we all know that StarClan can just tell the cats things so it seems like they’re letting Splashtail run wild for some reason.
This “they sent the storm to back up Frostpaw” scenario is your assumption. It is not explicitly stated in the book that that is what happened so it is easy to just see the storm for what it was: a storm. However, it is understandable why you would make that assumption because StarClan has been very hands-on for years and years now. It’s a conundrum that the Erins have to live with now which directly hinders their storytelling.
TLDR, StarClan is a mess. I believe the storm was just a storm.
Maybe the Erins could make a “starclan bad” plotline to make their mistake seem unintentional
@@Coocoocrazy3 honestly that would be a story they've been unintentionally building up to for the past 10 if not more years xD
Yeah, I too believe the storm was just a storm and not starclan but that starclan knew about it so they sent the warning to Frostpaw to:
1. Prove she's a legit medicine cat.
2. Save the Windclan kits in general.
I don't think they sent the storm, just the warning.
Ok but the way dakoart drew whistlepaw is amazing
I remember being so excited at the beginning of the broken code thinking starclan would actually be villains even though I knew the imposter was ashfur, I thought he was just the tip of the iceberg and there would be a whole ass cabal of starclan cats with an evil plan but no. Just ashfur doing dark forest stuff bc the only dead cats who are villains have to be from the dark forest. Even though ashfurs rise is starclans fault for enabling him and letting him into starclan in the first place
At this point it seems that star clan is just a plot device for the writers to make specific things happen and not have too many people question it
(A leaf falls from a tree) ITS A SIGN FROM STARCLAN!
Starclan: *breathes*
Med cats: OMG OMG OMG ITS A SIGN I NEED TO TELL THE CLANS NOW👹👹👹👹
Starclan: there's a prophecy-
Jayfeather: *damit*
SC: “Mm! This prey tastes-“
Med.: “ ITS A SIGN! “
Hai, Moon!
@@TANGL3_BURR hi!
Starclan: b r e a t h e s
Medicine cats: ITS A SIGN FROM STARCLAN
No fr though if starclan just sits in a med cats dream they immediately go bonkers and go
ITS A SIGN STARCLAN SAT IN THE CORNER OF MY DREAM SLEEPING!!
Welp, divine deities sometimes work in ways incomprehensible to us people.
StarClan: “we have a VERY important omen, listen closely!”
Med cat: “yeah?”
StarClan: “whidwvisviooytrwwfvhjkyd”
Starclan: wassup bestie
The change fromt he oryginal series is basically a difference between someone who understands religion and is a believer writing about it VS someone who wants to have magic in their world but not make it entirelly "magic/fantasy".
Because Star Clan / afterlife in Warriors is no longer a religion. It's a magic system, and a very frustrating at that. Because magic systems should have rules to work, limitations etc, but those were NEVER established because THAT WAS NOT THE POINT OF STARCLAN. But it still leads to such magical deus ex machinism it makes my head hurt.
StarClan: McDonald’s is so good
Medicine Cats: EVERYBODY GO TO THE TWOLEGPLACE AND GET MCDONALD’S
😂
Imagine they rebel agenst star clan in changing skys
medicine cats are just deciphering random words from starclan
Omg I love you channel
Love ur videos im reading the series for the 5 time because of you keepmit up
just to be clear, CALLED IT. I knew the last book would be star but i guess its obvious if you follow the paterns of the others being names of clans
I just wish that the conflicts the starclan cats have between each other would be shown to the living cats more
YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT!
Love ya channel
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What I would love is if they realised this issue and chose to make it into a plot point instead, say maybe something had corrupt starclan and there was a plot about restoring starclan to its original state
“Heres an omen to help fix a problem WE made.”- Starclan
Yup, pretty much sums up everything.
Bright Guardian Akira: The most powerful thing StarClan can do is give a leader nine lives.
Also StarClan: *literally kills a specific non-random warrior by sending down a tree*
My god I just had a really heated discussion about Onestar and Mudclaw on a different video. Here’s my summary:
I think Mudclaw may have made a bad leader because of his actions in life. He probably would declare war on the clans, and try to rule the forest. Also, Darktails death would have been completely different without Onestar being Onestar. He wouldn’t have had the major decisions to help them win, and if Mudclaw became leader, he may not have even helped the other clans. So maybe StarClans interference was a good thing, especially because he was trying to kill a cat of his own clan. And, (I can’t remember if I’m right) but Onestar made him deputy, so he still had a chance to succeed him, if being leader was the thing he wanted(which I think it was) then he could have just stayed deputy on the hope that one day he would lead. The fact that he tried to kill Onestar just so he could become leader, was a bad sign. I think StarClans interference with the falling tree was good (or who knows it could have been just a falling tree) because it got rid of Mudclaw and gave them a place to gather.
The thumbnail is so true lmao
Love ur videos Akira keep up the good work!
Is it actually canon that Starclan sent a tree to fall on Mudclaw though? I always assumed that was just the living cats' interpretation of the event? I always got the impression that the clans just assume natural phenomena happens through Starclan, but we aren't really meant to take that literally. Like yeah a lot of it is very abrupt and coincidental, but that's plot (not my favorite plot with the wind tree thing and the storm ending quickly, but maybe i missed something on my reading cause i didnt think it was Starclan specifically for that. Sometimes storms do stop like that, just felt like heavy handed writing). They can warn the cats about events, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're causing them. They are inconsistent for sure especially with the leafpool squirrelflight stuff but the other examples specifically, I dunno.
Sidenote but yeah I also hate what they did to my girl Mothwing thooo
Yup. The clan cat interpreted it as a Starclan action. Just like they do with many things that are clearly not Starclan action. And the tempest in wind is not even said by any character to be caused by Starclan, this is purely a theory.
The reason the storm was abrupt and coincidental is because it's a book and the writing isn't perfect. As soon as the tempest did what it's supposed to they got rid of it like they do everytime we have a weather related issue.
Less goo new vid!!
More like “Dose not make sense clan”
starclan: *so heyy frostpawww were gonna send a fire to shadowclan, and u have to tell someone but theyre not going to believe you but thats your fault ok bye.*
Are we just gonna ignore Frostpaws expression 4:38
Starclan: get a gf
Medicine cats: ITS A SIGN
Frostpaw:you pretty much have infinite power over the clans. So umm...Can you come kill my evil former crush or something?
Starclan: *No we will only create unnecessary drama so we are entertained*
starclan reminds me of the greek gods. supposedly deities but they're constantly making trouble for mortals
My theory is that the next leader of riverclan will do something brave or other during splashtail's rein that makes the other cats support them, or maybe the next leader needs to learn a lesson during splashtail's rein. And therefore, starclan cannot kill splashtail
EITHER they are just telling them what’s about to happen so they know, ORRRR they don’t cause it.
god we all know that the windclan thing is now going to happen in skyclan
I’ve been waiting for her to upload again!! I’m super excited cuz I’m interested in how starclan has evolved over the years
Starclan: *saying they don't have control over things and sleeping*
Readers: yeah right
Medicine cat: OMG ITS A SIGN
Jokes aside, I'm convinced you have a better chance at freedom in the dark forest than starclan
The Whistlepaw art is so cute!! Does Dako post her designs on a website? I would love to see them!
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⭐✨ StarClan! 🌌
I'm convinced they are more Evil then the Dark Forests Cats.
Let's not forget how StarClan punished YellowFang killing two of her Kits leaving the only one that will turn Ruthless and Evil in the future.
Starclan love you!
But not enough to save you
I feel like the cats are actually the ones that which interpret the weather as signs from starclan and starclan go with it, by sending visions which warn about the weather because starclan can predict the weather rather than control it. Perhaps they are more manipulating situations as they arise. Also maybe firestar has changed this since joining starclan.
I’m choosing to believe that Mothwing says that RiverClan needs a StarClan-approved leader as a political strategy, since none of the other Clans would accept a leader who wasn’t approved by StarClan and would continue to undermine RiverClan’s leadership
IM BACON, BACON YOU!!!!
Theory: StarClan knew Onestar would be a bad leader, and killed Mudclaw (who would have been a good leader) to teach Tallstar a lesson. Basically “friends of your friends can still be enemies.”
No wonder WindClan don’t like trees..
Starclan: im playing with snow med cats:OMG SNOWKIT IS A GIFTED CAT!!!
Snowkit:whaaaaa
Star clan was always the most confusing thing to me
I love whistle paws design!!!!!!
AHHHHHH I JUST REALIZED THAT AKIRA SPOILED WIND WHICH MEANS THAT THEY REALESED IT
honestly obvious starclan meddling or no, its personally extremely funny to imagine mudclaw's death as just a massive coincidence like could you imagine
I think you mean to say starclan is still wildly inconsistent. 😆
Starclan: and then a hair fell off my pelt!
Medicine cats: *GREQT STARCLAN THIS MUST BE A SIGN :O//
I stop reading midway through the broken code arc. What is Starclan doing!?
This is true on all levels
If starclan threw a tree on mudclaw why didn’t they throw a tree on tigerstar brokenstar scourge darktail mapleshade thistleclaw hawkfrost sol ashfur and LITERALLY ANY BAD CAT EVER
ooo, new vid!
You know its bad when you start agreeing with Spalshtail logic like I agree with his views on starclan the way he goes about it is bad but is he wrong?
I don't think StarClan sent the storm in Wind, but it is weird that they didn't tell at least one of WindClan's medicine cats. At the same time, it kind of makes sense that they would tell Frostpaw so the other cats could trust her. Even if StarClan told the medicine cats point-blank that Frostpaw's telling the truth, many of the non-medicine cats would still not believe it unless there was evidence to prove it. Sending Frostpaw the message that predicted the tree falling on WindClan provides that evidence.
Love your videos! Keep it up
StarClan kit: *yawns*
Med cats: *GASP* IT MUST BE AN OMEN!!!!!
IM GIGGLING “…thanks..”
Starclan: *exists*
The clans: STARCLAN ITS A SIGN
Welp it’s time for me to give a shot at making sense of star clan so in the beginning a few book it seems that star clan mostly was just the same as medcats they receive prophecies the only difference is where they live maybe in the land of star clan more prophecies are given to the cats, now for the ability to give nine lives to leaders I have a theory so the dark forest seems to suck the life force out of the cats, so what if star clan Does the exact opposite giving them all in life but it becomes problematic so what they do is they gather that energy and give it to a alive cat. Alive cats can only getting so much of this energy which equals to them having nine lives so the whole giving leaders nine lives thing is just a way to get rid of this access energy before it becomes problematic. I am out of room the rest will be added on in the comment section.
Firestar came along and was able to make peace among the clans, leading to less cats, dying and more importantly, less leaders dying there for an excess amount of energy became problematic, but some star clan cats who disagree with bluestars, idea of star clan only being there to watch start learning to use this energy to affect the world the live cat’s are in leading to starclan overstepping their boundaries and possibly through wanting more of this power, They start to try to push the Clan cats to get along so that less leaders will die and less of this energy will be spent giving StarClan more power.
And excuse me , is it possible to make a video on brackenfur ? 😊
This is so relatable! First, Starclan can see destinies… how did they not know what would happen to Conderpelt. 2. Starclan can control what happens. So then WHY do they need to get special cats for a prophecy!