Hair is cut because of the entrance of boot camp. Hair goes for health (lice, ringworm) etc. Also to strip your identity and they begin to break your individuality down and begin to build you up again
You are also taking men from all over the country and putting them together in close quarters. Lice can spread quickly from person to person. That is the hygienic explanation.
Spot on, man. With the limited time in boot camp. The shaved head was actually a good thing, in my opinion. It was one less thing you had to fuck with.
I'm not against women in the military or in combat, provided they passed all the standards, tests, procedures and requirements needed WITHOUT lowering the standards just because they are female.
Well, most don't meet the standards or even come close, but even those who do meet the standards have a serious problem being a woman.....they have their monthly period and for a week every month, they more or less become combat ineffective, and you're forced to operate down a Man. Not to mention they can easily get UTI's MUCH easier on the front line when they're not able to maintain a certain level of hygiene. Women also tend to be MUCH MORE emotional than Men. Men make decisions based on logic, facts, and what has to be done no matter what. The front line in combat is NO PLACE to be conducting some bullshit politically correct social experiment, and putting the lives of Men at greater risk than they are already.
As someone who served in the US military in combat support (intelligence, not front line), I have no problem with women serving in combat roles, so long as they can pass the higher standards that the men have to pass. Currently, women have lower sit-up/crunch amounts, lower pull-ups (or they 'hang' for a certain amount of time), they do a lower number of push-ups, and their run-times are substantially longer compared to their male peers over the same distance. They should be required to match the men's current fitness standards before being considered for frontline service. I would also stipulate that, if women are going to serve in front-line roles -- as in First-Responder roles (and we've all seen the recent videos of women sadly failing in these roles) -- that they be required to carry their own weight, meaning a 35lb/15.8kg - 45lb/20kg ruck, with 15lb/6.8kg plate carrier, and be able to handle, and carry, any weapon that the men are required to carry, up to, and including, the M240 LMG (27.6 lb/12.5), PLUS ammo, for literal kilometers until setting up camp or an ambush; everyone else has their own stuff to carry and shouldn't be held up by someone who can't shoulder their own burden. There are a few women I've met who could do all of this, but they're rare. As far as female Marines? They have to qualify, and can shoot and hit, a target at 500 meters, same as the men, enlisted or officer; they'll all shoot you just as dead at that distance. All Marines are trained differently than any other Service.
I'm a former 11B Army Infantryman and Iraq veteran. The army in all its wisdom has decided that to incorporate more women in to combat roles its better to lower the physical requirements! Combat readiness and effectiveness be damned! I ETS out in 07 when thr infantry was all male. However im told by those serving today in the infantry that the men often find themselves picking up the slack. And because many of the women struggle to carry all the gear and their heavy rucksacks they often have to carry them for them Those that served in combat arms might remember being told. Like Links in a chain We are only as strong as our weakest link! This to me seems like a political move to force an agenda. And some believe it's a clever way to sabotage our military effectiveness under the guise of Diversity Equity and Inclusion. And we have seen how well that's worked out every where its been tried
I like the yelling. When you’re near the end of training and an instructor speaks to you in a normal tone or says “good job”, it makes you feel like you accomplished something. You feel like you belong.
Psychologically it’s to break down individualism. It’s also a sanitary issue and since men are frontline infantry as you said it makes the corpsmans job of treating head wounds easier without as much hair.
@@tripsixx5802 This has been the rule in place forever for males based on the reasons that have been explained however; that all changed when females were integrated into Marines and they complained that they didn't want to abide by the same rules and have their head shaved. So they were given a pass just like they get a pass in much of everything our military had for centuries
*** no women in combat *** I am a former Marine machine gunner and I deployed to Iraq several times and I'm currently a disabled combat veteran and when it comes to women in combat my opinion is this... I don't want women in combat alongside me because it was hard enough and mentally traumatizing to see my male friends die in front of me... I can't imagine seeing dead women everywhere or seeing a close female friend get blown up by a landmine or seeing a woman get cut down by machine gun fire or hearing a woman scream in pain as she dies... As a combat veteran I can't imagine a more horrifying hell than hearing women scream for their lives in combat and seeing dead and blown apart female bodies littering a battlefield. 😓😓😓 For the sanity of the men who have to endure it, NO WOMEN IN COMBAT!
Salute. Retired Army Infantry. The Grenada rescue of our students was my first at 18yrs old. We got them all out and of course, some of ours didnt make it home. It never stopped for me after that and I am going again in less than a year. I wish you peace and wish I could carry any of your load and let your drop the rucksack and relax, but you know reality. I will do my best
Definitely, I touched on that in my comment, luckily none of my buddies died, and only some lightly wounded, USMC here also. Iraq twice and Helmand province once. 08-09 for Afghanistan. But definitely dealt with other wounded or dead/pieces at times, that was more than bad enough. Only worse if women. Plus I added in, we’d do anything to save a women, and god forbid they incapacitated and taken prisoner, they horrors they be subject to, is way worse than the torture men would get, and if we were enough trouble, eventually they’d just shoot us, I got a feeling most enemies of America wouldn’t kill a woman prisoner, though I’m sure she’d shortly wish for that.
BULLSEYE! Retired Army Infantry. My first firefight was during the Grenada rescue and it just never stopped. Enough worries to save the students at all costs without baggage on our backs. I was 18. I doubt you will get this, but if you do, I wish you the best Marine. I did like 10 tours, but over half, I was a civilian before that was cool. From Bogota, Colombia, a salute and early next year, to Ukrraine.
@@Plastikdoom Helmand was not a nice place LOL. My respect and thanks for doing the deed. Retired Army Infantry and contractor before that was even heard of. I like history. The rank PRIVATE came from Private soldier FYI. You enjoy easy street. Me, just getting lazy is bad for me and I am going to my 11th early next year, but have to train and am old too.
@@jackwalker9492 yeah, never had to deal with our civilians, as in saving them, just making sure we didn’t wreck Iraqi and afghan ones, just living their life, as most over there did, like anywhere. And yeah, saying Helmand wasn’t a nice place is an understatement, haha. Or TQ during the surge. After Helmand. We did so good after Afghanistan, they sent us to UAE for a week of R&R then right to TQ after that. No home for us. For another 7 months. In a not nice place. We deployed 6-7 months, every year. Well, good luck. With your future endeavors, and good hunting. I thought about going to Ukraine…but so far, not bad enough I feel, to warrant that. And will basically destroy everything I worked for here. Don’t know if I want to do that. Will be square one. For me, yet again. I’ve had enough square ones in my relatively short 37 years on earth. And enough messed up shit for a few lifetimes at least. So who knows, if it drags on, I may end up going, been torn the whole time, on that. As I’m still waiting to see what happens overall, and if I gotta fight again, I’d rather do it for the US, if everything goes to absolute hell.
Many drill instructors are actually good and caring people nowadays. They are hard because they care. My son's instructor has a long scar down his face where he was shoved down a metal staircase by his instructor years prior, which could have killed him. My son said he was a fair guy and he had total trust in him. At graduation, I knew exactly where my son. He is tall 6 foot 6 inches and I know his profile and body language but after the ceremony, as I approached him, I still read his name tag, just to be sure. He was different and the same. He said he didn't feel different, but the change was clear to me. He stood to his full height with perfect posture, had more depth to his voice and was crisp with his movements. Last month he earned his aircrew wings I returned to his base to attend a ceremony to "punch in" his wings to his chest. I'm glad he asked me to do it and I gave them a good wollop to much applause. Can hardly wait to see him again. ❤
the reason they yell like that is to create stressful situations to make sure recruits follow orders accurately during stress and load noises. you'll hear people being yelled commands hundreds of yards away but you have to focus on your task at hand. thats what makes marines so good in battle.
To answer your question, remember the US military exists to fight and win America's war and not an equal opportunity program. Also, if women demand equal access to the military, they should be subjected to the same standards and requirements for registering for the draft. The fact is most western countries do not have these requirements. Excellent discussion by US Marine Corps Captain Katie Petronio in an article she wrote in 2012, “Get Over It! We Are Not All Created Equal.” Detailing her personal experiences during deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, she made the case that the physical demands of combat are not for women. She worked shoulder to shoulder with infantrymen as the senior Marine in her engineering unit working 16-hour days for weeks at a time building patrol bases. "By the fifth month into the deployment, I had muscle atrophy in my thighs that was causing me to constantly trip and my legs to buckle with the slightest grade change,” she wrote. “My agility during firefights and mobility on and off vehicles and perimeter walls was seriously hindering my response time and overall capability. It was evident that stress and muscular deterioration was affecting everyone regardless of gender; however, the rate of my deterioration was noticeably faster than that of male Marines and further compounded by gender-specific medical conditions.” While female and male military service members receive the same pay based on rank and years of service, all the military services have significantly lower physical fitness standards for females. One recent US Marine shared how they had to carry all of the female Marines packs in addition to their own during a standard road march with combat loads. The result was all of the male US Marines suffered severe and in some case permanent injuries. Lots of talk that women can do anything a man can do but no evidence to support it.
honestly if you think the military is where women are treated differently than men you have it all wrong. if anything men and women are treated the exact same way in the military more than other places.
Wow that is the same year and month that my stepdad graduated from Fort Jackson SC. Just a short drive from you. Crazy! He debated enlisting in the Marines... imagine that you would have intersected in training at least, at most, you could have been in the same unit if he chose the Marines. The reason he didn't go to the Marines was because the army needed to train more telemark specialists, and he was a competitive downhill skier, as we are from Maine. He retired as a Sgt. 1C (E-7). We love our Marines, and on behalf of my family, we thank you for your service. God bless.
"Hey" from west central Florida, USA. Enjoy watching ya reaction videos and I wish y'all the best of luck in planning your future visit to the states. Positivity . . Positivity, . . . Positivity, in ya pursuit. Have fun and be safe ! :)
Time 7:44. To be a good soldier does not necessarily mean upper body strength. It means having the stamina and willpower to go a step farther when your body is screaming for you to stop. It means do not give up when the situation seems hopeless. It means do not let your team down if you are having a bad day.
As much as you hear in the media about females on the front, it’s pretty rare. There are some bad ass women in the service, providing close air support and working in special operations. For the most part, however, you will find our ladies in a support role (commo, medic, supply, trans, ect.)
when i was in the marines i never once saw a woman on patrol in afghanistan. never. always only stuck at the base. we dont usually send women in combat.
@@chrisvibz4753 What do you mean "WE don't send women into combat"? How many Marines where you in charge of in combat? BTW, women where not permitted to serve in front line positions in Afghanistan because of Islamic law. Stupid ass. Probably Stolen Valor.
There are too many reasons to count why hair must be removed, but some more obvious reasons are uniformity, militarization, comfort, cleanliness, speed of showering and less water use, much cooler under a helmet, impossible to grab the head in a fight, exposing skin to observe skin issues or gang tattoos, removal of head lice, neat appearance, nothing for the gas mask straps to grab and tear, etc.. There's also very good reasons why the yelling is necessary, but the primary reason is stressful combat situational training. In combat, the noise is incredibly loud, your ears are going to be ringing from explosions and gunfire, so yelling will be the only realistic method of communicating with each other. Hand signals are used when you are trying to operate in stealth, but in a firefight, you will most often be yelling.
In Navy boot (San Diego) in 1977, we all had 1/8 inch length hair and, since some of our company wore glasses, all of us had them. We called them BCGs (birth control glasses). That was before women on ships.
@2:00 We cut our hair for two simple reasons: To prevent head-lice and so that the enemy cannot grab our hair and cut our throats. Caesar wrote about this in his book "On War".
I graduated Parris Island in 1999 and I spent 4 years in the USMC Infantry (0311) and I have no issues with any woman in the military. I do have issue with women in the infantry. It is literally the front lines and my issue arises from the inherent male reaction to a woman. Through evoution, men have protected women and it is an involuntary reaction. Any woman in distress in an actual battle would hinder and distract a man fighting beside her. This is EXACTLY the thing that CANNOT happen in a battle. The comradery and brotherhood that is needed and attained in an infantry unit cannot be explained - nor understood. I have been out of the Infantry for 21 years and I guarantee if it were nighttime out and you had 10 guys I served with and ten other guys walk towards me, I could tell you if I served with them and what their name is - it is that intimate and the awareness of all your fellow infantry and the importance is the crucial part. I do everything in battle for the guy next to me and he does it for me. I trust him with my life as he does his with me. Multiply this out through a Platoon or company or Battalion and the esprit de corps is fully recognized and appreciated. The only inherent weakness in a man is his inate, immediate reaction to help a woman which would ultimately end up with a man failing at a task (like observe/defend a position) and causing the death or injury to fellow brother and/or sisters. The Marine Corps trains people in a certain way and stresses the mind heavily to teach a certain reaction and through repetition, that reaction becomes second nature. A woman beside a man in battle is something the Marine Corps knows they cannot conditon out of a man like they condition them in the manner they do. In the end, someone else wil pay the price (dead/wounded) for the man beside them making the choice to save a woman in distress as opposed to doing their job and protecting the unit in the manner they are assigned. I have thought about this and know that it is not the right choice - badass woman or not. The unintended consequences of this involuntary, evolutionary response will end up in a failure of duty when the bullets are being fired.
Don't ever feel bad for Marine recruits. It's not meant for everyone, so that's why we're called The Few, The Proud. If a recruit can't hold his own in Bootcamp, he'd be worthless battle, and My Marine Corps can't have that.
The most PG version of bootcamp, didn't account for the spitting in the face, rifles to the nose (and breaking one in my experience lol) doing the crucible then hiking the fuckin Reaper (west coast) and getting "slayed" or whatever tf the easy coast called it. Every single damn day 😂. At least they tried to make it somewhat relatable I guess lol.
As a former Navy Combat Corpsman (battlefield medic stationed with the Marines, I can tell you the exact reason, and this comes directly from Marine Corps Regilations Manual. Head lice. Uniformity. Take them out of their civilian comfort and shock them into military discipline. 200 years of tradition. Every man must meet Marine standards.
in the US military, women usually arent actively fighting, they are on the front lines but they are usually support, not out in the field engaging enemies. atleast they werent when i was in during the war in 2015-2019. they drove trucks and studf and convoys but that’s about it
My stepdad was in the army for a long time and retired as E7, and spent half of his career training special forces for mountain and arctic survival and telemark, from Alaska and then NATO special ops in the EU, and in his last few years he was involved in the research studies to consider allowing females in special forces and combat patrols. When it came to altitude training, a female could not even carry their basic gear beyond 1,300 meters. It's really bad. No matter how strong a female is, science cannot be ignored.
I think the tower was the hardest part of boot camp for me. I have no problem jumping out of planes, but going up more than 10 feet on a ladder scares me. It's weird.
Simple answer to the hair question. Lice. Regardless of any modern symbolism or tradition, the original reason for shaving their head was to prevent the spread of head lice which could spread other diseases.
During WW II, women of the Soviet Army fought on the front line and women pilots flew combat fighter and bombing missions as well. There were also women sniper units. Lyudmila Pavlichenko, considered the most successful female sniper in history. Pavlichenko, dubbed Lady Death after taking out 309 Nazis. Roza Shanina, 19-year-old Russian WWII Sniper With 54 Confirmed Kills. Lilya Litvak, one of the best Soviet combat pilots was said to be hated by Hitler. Know as "White Lily” performed her first solo flight at the age of 15. In her combat career, she had 12 solo victories and 4 shared victories over a total of 66 combat missions during 2 years of service (she died in mission on August, 1943, at the age just 22 years old).Her wingman (wingwoman?) was her best friend Yekaterina Budanova, also female ace pilot (11 air victories). Lydia downed German ace pilot who escaped with parachute. Captured by ground troops, he demanded to meet the ace who shot him down. German refused to believe it was a woman until she told him in details their fight maneuvers. The Night Witches were largely unique among the female combatants -- and even the female flyers-of World War II. Other countries, the U.S. among them, may have allowed women to fly as members of their early air forces; those women, however, served largely in support and transport roles. The Soviet Union was the first nation to allow women to fly combat missions-to be able, essentially, to return fire when it was delivered. These ladies flew planes; they also dropped bombs. The 588th was the most highly decorated female unit in that force, flying 30,000 missions over the course of four years-and dropping, in total, 23,000 tons of bombs on invading German armies. Its members, who ranged in age from 17 to 26, flew primarily at night, making do with planes that were-per their plywood-and-canvas construction-generally reserved for training and crop-dusting. They often operated in stealth mode, idling their engines as they neared their targets and then gliding their way to their bomb release points. As a result, their planes made little more than soft "whooshing" noises as they flew by. Those noises reminded the Germans, apparently, of the sound of a witch's broomstick. So the Nazis began calling the female fighter pilots Nachthexen: "night witches." They were loathed. And they were feared. Any German pilot who downed a "witch" was automatically awarded an Iron Cross. Women helped to stop the Nazis at Stalingrad and push them west, all the way back to Berlin. These women defended Mother Russia under pain of death, for it was know the Wehrmacht and all SS units were issued orders that any Soviet female combatant who was captured was to be immediately executed and not accorded POW status.
Countries historically have used females in combat only as a matter of desperation, and there is a reason for that. There are huge handicaps to having women in a combat unit. They are self-evident and need no explanation. However, there are some roles in which females do excel in the military. Young women are normally more mature than men of the same age and pay a greater attention to detail. They are good therefore at technical fields like missile defense and logistics and can make excellent pilots. But in terms of being in ground combat units, it is a huge mistake for the US to integrate women. Our enemies are smiling about the fact that women are being integrated into the combat infantry.
I got to Parris Island around midnight. There were six of us in one van. After we got off the yellow footprints, there was no more walking lol. And the female drill instructors scared me more than the men lol.
I remember the guy in front of me at the repelling tower afraid of heights. HE was over the edge just like this guy was. Only difference is the DI put his foot on top of his head, no helmets then, and pushed down yelling, GO AWAY. The stress is extremely important. If you can not handle the stress on the battlefield you are a liability, not an asset.
My daughter in-law received the marksmanship award in the Navy ..She’s an officer and she is one of the best shooters they have! I’m serious.. She’s Badass!
I have 2 Army daughters and they are absolutely awesome. Some don't make it through boot camp, including MALES . Don't say a woman cant be a soldier because it's the same heart that beats and would die for our country.
It's a different standard for men and women but they still deserve respect for serving. Women's are watered down to let them have the opportunity to serve. Very small percentage of the already small percentage of women recruits are able to pass men's standards.
I did 2/6 during Desert Storm but reenlisted and did the entire 8 active. I was Navy with a fear of heights, and did the tower Australian style when working with the Marines. Gator Navy here
I never wanted to go back to Paris Island, but here I am. They offered me a sign on bonus and a promotion to teach here and I said no. I have spent a lot of time here though. - I would guess about 13 weeks. ;)
During the Marine Corps Boot Camp, at least when I went through Boot Camp in 1989 the spoon qualification you weren’t only wearing your camouflage boots, but you also had a rubber rifle that was the same weight as the actual M-16 strung around your neck and hanging up your back and we also had two full canteen of water on our hips
my nephew was in Afghanistan and was elected valuable marine for action during battle-they could make a movie about the fight.he retired as a Sargent first thing he did when he got home was buy a ar-15..
Just remember as per military standards "All" recruits must qualify in all categories of combat. From hand to hand, endurance and including weapons training. The last thing the Marines or any other branch needs is a member that breaks under pressure or fails training. I am for the women fighting, those who can. My step-sister was front line in Iraq and she has always been qualified.
As long as the standards are the same for men and women I support women on the front line. Standards must be maintained. I met one of the first women the graduate from West Point. She was a colonel serving in West Germany at the time. She was tough as nails and well qualified to serve. She was in transition from a field officer to White House security. That was decades ago.
I always laugh because I didn't get the initial heaircut. I have alopecia and my hair is patchy. A week later i had em ask if i got my haircut and I watched drill instructors get chewed out in front of me.
I remember going through the gas chamber during boot camp. A recruit about three rows behind me didn't get a proper seal and started getting exposed to the gas through the leak in his mask. it was crazy, he had to stay in there and get exposed extra long while being ripped into by the TI 🤣. It was a lesson on why the seal is soooo important when donning your mask.
I went through Army basic training not Marine. I'm assuming a similar approach and rationale in all branches of military. Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines, and Coast Guard. The 1st half of basic training is meant to break you down mentally and strip you of your individuality. The 2nd half is meant to rebuild you into what your branch of service needs you to be. If one person makes a mistake or breaks a rule the entire unit is punished. This is in my opinion meant to teach you that in combat your mistake can get everyone killed so don't make mistakes. You want to get it right so your buddy doesn't suffer. It also teaches you to notice and help your teammates correct their short comings before the drill instructor see it. Before training or combat mission your inspecting your teammates gear and they are inspecting your to makes sure everyone is fully prepared.
its pretty crazy tho... the island looked exactly the same from when i was there lol 14:20 also it did spread into the corps and thats exactly why i got out.
I think females in combat MOSs like infantry might bring some issues. That is a topic I won't talk about here. At the minimum for females to be in a combat MOS like infantry or Rangers then they should be able to pass the same tests that the males have to pass. Here at Fort Benning, now Fort Moore, they had two female soldiers go through Ranger school. They passed. But they only passed because they lowered the standard just so they would pass. That's a no go for me. I know some females who could absolutely pass the male standard. The standard should not be lowered in schools like Rangers.
I did Army basic training fresh out of high school at Fort Leonard Wood, MS. We trained with females. We didn't live together. If you got caught talking to a female, you got punished harshly. I hated it then, but looking it was an amazing experience.
The hair is cut to break them down and make them know they're all the same, individuality is a hinderance to team building. Also it's more sanitary
Makes them all equal in appearance.
Unit rather than individuals. Outside now your genes amd gender, you all are the same.
Hygiene and uniformity
Hair is cut because of the entrance of boot camp. Hair goes for health (lice, ringworm) etc. Also to strip your identity and they begin to break your individuality down and begin to build you up again
Later like in the Navy its so certain equipment fits properly and air tight,
Hair is cut because it
1. improves hygiene
2. creates equality
3. removes individuality
4. improves manageability
Nothing says equality more than equal haircuts
Did that come straight out of the DI handbook?! Haha
You are also taking men from all over the country and putting them together in close quarters. Lice can spread quickly from person to person. That is the hygienic explanation.
Spot on, man. With the limited time in boot camp. The shaved head was actually a good thing, in my opinion. It was one less thing you had to fuck with.
@@bleachedbrother EXACTLY 😎
I'm not against women in the military or in combat, provided they passed all the standards, tests, procedures and requirements needed WITHOUT lowering the standards just because they are female.
Well, most don't meet the standards or even come close, but even those who do meet the standards have a serious problem being a woman.....they have their monthly period and for a week every month, they more or less become combat ineffective, and you're forced to operate down a Man. Not to mention they can easily get UTI's MUCH easier on the front line when they're not able to maintain a certain level of hygiene. Women also tend to be MUCH MORE emotional than Men. Men make decisions based on logic, facts, and what has to be done no matter what.
The front line in combat is NO PLACE to be conducting some bullshit politically correct social experiment, and putting the lives of Men at greater risk than they are already.
Standards have already been lowered. A 32 year old mother of three has a Ranger Tab. What a joke.
100%
I take it you have never been in the Military, they don't belong.
As someone who served in the US military in combat support (intelligence, not front line), I have no problem with women serving in combat roles, so long as they can pass the higher standards that the men have to pass.
Currently, women have lower sit-up/crunch amounts, lower pull-ups (or they 'hang' for a certain amount of time), they do a lower number of push-ups, and their run-times are substantially longer compared to their male peers over the same distance. They should be required to match the men's current fitness standards before being considered for frontline service.
I would also stipulate that, if women are going to serve in front-line roles -- as in First-Responder roles (and we've all seen the recent videos of women sadly failing in these roles) -- that they be required to carry their own weight, meaning a 35lb/15.8kg - 45lb/20kg ruck, with 15lb/6.8kg plate carrier, and be able to handle, and carry, any weapon that the men are required to carry, up to, and including, the M240 LMG (27.6 lb/12.5), PLUS ammo, for literal kilometers until setting up camp or an ambush; everyone else has their own stuff to carry and shouldn't be held up by someone who can't shoulder their own burden.
There are a few women I've met who could do all of this, but they're rare.
As far as female Marines? They have to qualify, and can shoot and hit, a target at 500 meters, same as the men, enlisted or officer; they'll all shoot you just as dead at that distance. All Marines are trained differently than any other Service.
I'm a former 11B Army Infantryman and Iraq veteran. The army in all its wisdom has decided that to incorporate more women in to combat roles its better to lower the physical requirements! Combat readiness and effectiveness be damned! I ETS out in 07 when thr infantry was all male. However im told by those serving today in the infantry that the men often find themselves picking up the slack. And because many of the women struggle to carry all the gear and their heavy rucksacks they often have to carry them for them Those that served in combat arms might remember being told. Like Links in a chain We are only as strong as our weakest link! This to me seems like a political move to force an agenda. And some believe it's a clever way to sabotage our military effectiveness under the guise of Diversity Equity and Inclusion. And we have seen how well that's worked out every where its been tried
I like the yelling. When you’re near the end of training and an instructor speaks to you in a normal tone or says “good job”, it makes you feel like you accomplished something. You feel like you belong.
Psychologically it’s to break down individualism. It’s also a sanitary issue and since men are frontline infantry as you said it makes the corpsmans job of treating head wounds easier without as much hair.
Not all Male Marines are on the frontline so this doesn't totally explain why females get a pass.
@@dakotaconners107 just always what I was told? Never said it made total sense or was fair, kinda like certain people can get shaving passes
@@tripsixx5802 This has been the rule in place forever for males based on the reasons that have been explained however; that all changed when females were integrated into Marines and they complained that they didn't want to abide by the same rules and have their head shaved. So they were given a pass just like they get a pass in much of everything our military had for centuries
@@dakotaconners107 not defending any of it, just saying rules are rules and no point making them if people can dodge them for any reason
@@tripsixx5802 I agree however; tell that to the female recruits
*** no women in combat ***
I am a former Marine machine gunner and I deployed to Iraq several times and I'm currently a disabled combat veteran and when it comes to women in combat my opinion is this...
I don't want women in combat alongside me because it was hard enough and mentally traumatizing to see my male friends die in front of me... I can't imagine seeing dead women everywhere or seeing a close female friend get blown up by a landmine or seeing a woman get cut down by machine gun fire or hearing a woman scream in pain as she dies...
As a combat veteran I can't imagine a more horrifying hell than hearing women scream for their lives in combat and seeing dead and blown apart female bodies littering a battlefield. 😓😓😓
For the sanity of the men who have to endure it, NO WOMEN IN COMBAT!
Salute. Retired Army Infantry. The Grenada rescue of our students was my first at 18yrs old. We got them all out and of course, some of ours didnt make it home. It never stopped for me after that and I am going again in less than a year. I wish you peace and wish I could carry any of your load and let your drop the rucksack and relax, but you know reality. I will do my best
Definitely, I touched on that in my comment, luckily none of my buddies died, and only some lightly wounded, USMC here also. Iraq twice and Helmand province once. 08-09 for Afghanistan. But definitely dealt with other wounded or dead/pieces at times, that was more than bad enough. Only worse if women. Plus I added in, we’d do anything to save a women, and god forbid they incapacitated and taken prisoner, they horrors they be subject to, is way worse than the torture men would get, and if we were enough trouble, eventually they’d just shoot us, I got a feeling most enemies of America wouldn’t kill a woman prisoner, though I’m sure she’d shortly wish for that.
BULLSEYE! Retired Army Infantry. My first firefight was during the Grenada rescue and it just never stopped. Enough worries to save the students at all costs without baggage on our backs. I was 18. I doubt you will get this, but if you do, I wish you the best Marine. I did like 10 tours, but over half, I was a civilian before that was cool. From Bogota, Colombia, a salute and early next year, to Ukrraine.
@@Plastikdoom Helmand was not a nice place LOL. My respect and thanks for doing the deed. Retired Army Infantry and contractor before that was even heard of. I like history. The rank PRIVATE came from Private soldier FYI. You enjoy easy street. Me, just getting lazy is bad for me and I am going to my 11th early next year, but have to train and am old too.
@@jackwalker9492 yeah, never had to deal with our civilians, as in saving them, just making sure we didn’t wreck Iraqi and afghan ones, just living their life, as most over there did, like anywhere. And yeah, saying Helmand wasn’t a nice place is an understatement, haha. Or TQ during the surge. After Helmand. We did so good after Afghanistan, they sent us to UAE for a week of R&R then right to TQ after that. No home for us. For another 7 months. In a not nice place. We deployed 6-7 months, every year. Well, good luck. With your future endeavors, and good hunting. I thought about going to Ukraine…but so far, not bad enough I feel, to warrant that. And will basically destroy everything I worked for here. Don’t know if I want to do that. Will be square one. For me, yet again. I’ve had enough square ones in my relatively short 37 years on earth. And enough messed up shit for a few lifetimes at least. So who knows, if it drags on, I may end up going, been torn the whole time, on that. As I’m still waiting to see what happens overall, and if I gotta fight again, I’d rather do it for the US, if everything goes to absolute hell.
Many drill instructors are actually good and caring people nowadays. They are hard because they care. My son's instructor has a long scar down his face where he was shoved down a metal staircase by his instructor years prior, which could have killed him. My son said he was a fair guy and he had total trust in him.
At graduation, I knew exactly where my son. He is tall 6 foot 6 inches and I know his profile and body language but after the ceremony, as I approached him, I still read his name tag, just to be sure. He was different and the same. He said he didn't feel different, but the change was clear to me. He stood to his full height with perfect posture, had more depth to his voice and was crisp with his movements. Last month he earned his aircrew wings I returned to his base to attend a ceremony to "punch in" his wings to his chest. I'm glad he asked me to do it and I gave them a good wollop to much applause. Can hardly wait to see him again. ❤
This is definitely the PG Version of Boot camp. 😂
I did my 20. Anyone who meets the standards and who wants to join the military should.
the reason they yell like that is to create stressful situations to make sure recruits follow orders accurately during stress and load noises. you'll hear people being yelled commands hundreds of yards away but you have to focus on your task at hand. thats what makes marines so good in battle.
The reason that men have to shave their hair is so that they are a uniformed unit! You are a team, not an individual!
The way Fats went from intently watching to sweating and teary eyed, was crazy. 😂
To answer your question, remember the US military exists to fight and win America's war and not an equal opportunity program. Also, if women demand equal access to the military, they should be subjected to the same standards and requirements for registering for the draft. The fact is most western countries do not have these requirements. Excellent discussion by US Marine Corps Captain Katie Petronio in an article she wrote in 2012, “Get Over It! We Are Not All Created Equal.” Detailing her personal experiences during deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, she made the case that the physical demands of combat are not for women. She worked shoulder to shoulder with infantrymen as the senior Marine in her engineering unit working 16-hour days for weeks at a time building patrol bases. "By the fifth month into the deployment, I had muscle atrophy in my thighs that was causing me to constantly trip and my legs to buckle with the slightest grade change,” she wrote. “My agility during firefights and mobility on and off vehicles and perimeter walls was seriously hindering my response time and overall capability. It was evident that stress and muscular deterioration was affecting everyone regardless of gender; however, the rate of my deterioration was noticeably faster than that of male Marines and further compounded by gender-specific medical conditions.”
While female and male military service members receive the same pay based on rank and years of service, all the military services have significantly lower physical fitness standards for females. One recent US Marine shared how they had to carry all of the female Marines packs in addition to their own during a standard road march with combat loads. The result was all of the male US Marines suffered severe and in some case permanent injuries. Lots of talk that women can do anything a man can do but no evidence to support it.
honestly if you think the military is where women are treated differently than men you have it all wrong. if anything men and women are treated the exact same way in the military more than other places.
Semper Fidelis!! I graduated from Parris Island in November of 1986.
Wow that is the same year and month that my stepdad graduated from Fort Jackson SC. Just a short drive from you. Crazy! He debated enlisting in the Marines... imagine that you would have intersected in training at least, at most, you could have been in the same unit if he chose the Marines. The reason he didn't go to the Marines was because the army needed to train more telemark specialists, and he was a competitive downhill skier, as we are from Maine. He retired as a Sgt. 1C (E-7). We love our Marines, and on behalf of my family, we thank you for your service. God bless.
"Hey" from west central Florida, USA. Enjoy watching ya reaction videos and I wish y'all the best of luck in planning your future visit to the states. Positivity . . Positivity, . . . Positivity, in ya pursuit.
Have fun and be safe ! :)
Time 7:44. To be a good soldier does not necessarily mean upper body strength. It means having the stamina and willpower to go a step farther when your body is screaming for you to stop. It means do not give up when the situation seems hopeless. It means do not let your team down if you are having a bad day.
I've heard it said that "The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in combat." Richard Marcinko in his book "Rogue Warrior"
Oh lord I really feel for fats lol. As bad as she wants to forget and unsee what she saw, she just couldn't unsee it. I'm sorry fats lol. It's ok
Marines don't leave fellow Marines behind, ever!
As much as you hear in the media about females on the front, it’s pretty rare. There are some bad ass women in the service, providing close air support and working in special operations. For the most part, however, you will find our ladies in a support role (commo, medic, supply, trans, ect.)
Enlisting into mc at 19 by the end of September
Proud of you. Stay well and safe.
Welcome to the brotherhood
Preciate both yall boys
Im thinking of enlisting after i graduate
@UNITED-STATES-OF-MURICA140 do it bro!
when i was in the marines i never once saw a woman on patrol in afghanistan. never. always only stuck at the base. we dont usually send women in combat.
@@chrisvibz4753 What do you mean "WE don't send women into combat"? How many Marines where you in charge of in combat?
BTW, women where not permitted to serve in front line positions in Afghanistan because of Islamic law.
Stupid ass.
Probably Stolen Valor.
Really good you did this one. 👍
THAT WAS HYSTERICAL . FATS LOOKED LIKE SHE WENT THROUGH THE CS CHAMBER
she was not ready 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1:09 the asian dude screaming was one of my drill instructors back in 2019 lol
God bless Fats. She's a trooper!
There are too many reasons to count why hair must be removed, but some more obvious reasons are uniformity, militarization, comfort, cleanliness, speed of showering and less water use, much cooler under a helmet, impossible to grab the head in a fight, exposing skin to observe skin issues or gang tattoos, removal of head lice, neat appearance, nothing for the gas mask straps to grab and tear, etc..
There's also very good reasons why the yelling is necessary, but the primary reason is stressful combat situational training. In combat, the noise is incredibly loud, your ears are going to be ringing from explosions and gunfire, so yelling will be the only realistic method of communicating with each other. Hand signals are used when you are trying to operate in stealth, but in a firefight, you will most often be yelling.
to bad for those who have already any hair. their get the scalps shaved off.
In Navy boot (San Diego) in 1977, we all had 1/8 inch length hair and, since some of our company wore glasses, all of us had them. We called them BCGs (birth control glasses). That was before women on ships.
You need to do a reaction like this for the Navy, Army, Air Force and Coast Guard to.
@2:00 We cut our hair for two simple reasons: To prevent head-lice and so that the enemy cannot grab our hair and cut our throats. Caesar wrote about this in his book "On War".
I graduated Parris Island in 1999 and I spent 4 years in the USMC Infantry (0311) and I have no issues with any woman in the military. I do have issue with women in the infantry. It is literally the front lines and my issue arises from the inherent male reaction to a woman. Through evoution, men have protected women and it is an involuntary reaction. Any woman in distress in an actual battle would hinder and distract a man fighting beside her. This is EXACTLY the thing that CANNOT happen in a battle. The comradery and brotherhood that is needed and attained in an infantry unit cannot be explained - nor understood. I have been out of the Infantry for 21 years and I guarantee if it were nighttime out and you had 10 guys I served with and ten other guys walk towards me, I could tell you if I served with them and what their name is - it is that intimate and the awareness of all your fellow infantry and the importance is the crucial part. I do everything in battle for the guy next to me and he does it for me. I trust him with my life as he does his with me. Multiply this out through a Platoon or company or Battalion and the esprit de corps is fully recognized and appreciated. The only inherent weakness in a man is his inate, immediate reaction to help a woman which would ultimately end up with a man failing at a task (like observe/defend a position) and causing the death or injury to fellow brother and/or sisters.
The Marine Corps trains people in a certain way and stresses the mind heavily to teach a certain reaction and through repetition, that reaction becomes second nature. A woman beside a man in battle is something the Marine Corps knows they cannot conditon out of a man like they condition them in the manner they do. In the end, someone else wil pay the price (dead/wounded) for the man beside them making the choice to save a woman in distress as opposed to doing their job and protecting the unit in the manner they are assigned.
I have thought about this and know that it is not the right choice - badass woman or not. The unintended consequences of this involuntary, evolutionary response will end up in a failure of duty when the bullets are being fired.
If you'd like to join the service go for it, Whom ever you are. I couldn't do it, but I am so appreciative of the ones who can.
Don't ever feel bad for Marine recruits. It's not meant for everyone, so that's why we're called The Few, The Proud. If a recruit can't hold his own in Bootcamp, he'd be worthless battle, and My Marine Corps can't have that.
My daughter is a U.S. Marine. She's a badass and my hero, and she always will be.
I'm hit and miss with this because we as Americans for the most part r taught to protect our woman and children ❤
The most PG version of bootcamp, didn't account for the spitting in the face, rifles to the nose (and breaking one in my experience lol) doing the crucible then hiking the fuckin Reaper (west coast) and getting "slayed" or whatever tf the easy coast called it. Every single damn day 😂. At least they tried to make it somewhat relatable I guess lol.
As a former Navy Combat Corpsman (battlefield medic stationed with the Marines, I can tell you the exact reason, and this comes directly from Marine Corps Regilations Manual. Head lice. Uniformity. Take them out of their civilian comfort and shock them into military discipline. 200 years of tradition. Every man must meet Marine standards.
Fats gets a A for effort from gas reaction
No women in combat and they shouldn’t be cops on the street either. The head shaving is because individuality is not a thing in the military
I went through that tear gas crap in the Army. It super sucked.
Bravo video with your bravo reaction! Love you two UK ers.😊
Not Diddy but a DITTY, a story, a tale, a yarn, an ancedote.
Of those 25% of female Marines, I'd say less than half are actually serving in combat roles.
in the US military, women usually arent actively fighting, they are on the front lines but they are usually support, not out in the field engaging enemies. atleast they werent when i was in during the war in 2015-2019. they drove trucks and studf and convoys but that’s about it
My stepdad was in the army for a long time and retired as E7, and spent half of his career training special forces for mountain and arctic survival and telemark, from Alaska and then NATO special ops in the EU, and in his last few years he was involved in the research studies to consider allowing females in special forces and combat patrols. When it came to altitude training, a female could not even carry their basic gear beyond 1,300 meters. It's really bad. No matter how strong a female is, science cannot be ignored.
@@NatPat-yj2or exactly. women are perfectly capable of doing countless other things but should never be in combat roles.
Buddy, that guy wasn’t a couch potato. Anyone would get shredded from this training, in shape or no. You wouldn’t even last the first hour. 🤣
Dude nailed it on the hair
I think the tower was the hardest part of boot camp for me. I have no problem jumping out of planes, but going up more than 10 feet on a ladder scares me. It's weird.
im not sure about females on the frontline u need to rely on your fellow soldier and physically its not even close to men, sorry ladies
fellow soldier..? did the woman not pass the same training as you as well? if you can handle it then i’m sure a woman can as well
Simple answer to the hair question. Lice. Regardless of any modern symbolism or tradition, the original reason for shaving their head was to prevent the spread of head lice which could spread other diseases.
During WW II, women of the Soviet Army fought on the front line and women pilots flew combat fighter and bombing missions as well. There were also women sniper units. Lyudmila Pavlichenko, considered the most successful female sniper in history. Pavlichenko, dubbed Lady Death after taking out 309 Nazis. Roza Shanina, 19-year-old Russian WWII Sniper With 54 Confirmed Kills. Lilya Litvak, one of the best Soviet combat pilots was said to be hated by Hitler. Know as "White Lily” performed her first solo flight at the age of 15. In her combat career, she had 12 solo victories and 4 shared victories over a total of 66 combat missions during 2 years of service (she died in mission on August, 1943, at the age just 22 years old).Her wingman (wingwoman?) was her best friend Yekaterina Budanova, also female ace pilot (11 air victories). Lydia downed German ace pilot who escaped with parachute. Captured by ground troops, he demanded to meet the ace who shot him down. German refused to believe it was a woman until she told him in details their fight maneuvers.
The Night Witches were largely unique among the female combatants -- and even the female flyers-of World War II. Other countries, the U.S. among them, may have allowed women to fly as members of their early air forces; those women, however, served largely in support and transport roles. The Soviet Union was the first nation to allow women to fly combat missions-to be able, essentially, to return fire when it was delivered. These ladies flew planes; they also dropped bombs.
The 588th was the most highly decorated female unit in that force, flying 30,000 missions over the course of four years-and dropping, in total, 23,000 tons of bombs on invading German armies. Its members, who ranged in age from 17 to 26, flew primarily at night, making do with planes that were-per their plywood-and-canvas construction-generally reserved for training and crop-dusting. They often operated in stealth mode, idling their engines as they neared their targets and then gliding their way to their bomb release points. As a result, their planes made little more than soft "whooshing" noises as they flew by.
Those noises reminded the Germans, apparently, of the sound of a witch's broomstick. So the Nazis began calling the female fighter pilots Nachthexen: "night witches." They were loathed. And they were feared. Any German pilot who downed a "witch" was automatically awarded an Iron Cross. Women helped to stop the Nazis at Stalingrad and push them west, all the way back to Berlin. These women defended Mother Russia under pain of death, for it was know the Wehrmacht and all SS units were issued orders that any Soviet female combatant who was captured was to be immediately executed and not accorded POW status.
Countries historically have used females in combat only as a matter of desperation, and there is a reason for that. There are huge handicaps to having women in a combat unit. They are self-evident and need no explanation. However, there are some roles in which females do excel in the military. Young women are normally more mature than men of the same age and pay a greater attention to detail. They are good therefore at technical fields like missile defense and logistics and can make excellent pilots. But in terms of being in ground combat units, it is a huge mistake for the US to integrate women. Our enemies are smiling about the fact that women are being integrated into the combat infantry.
The next video that you need to watch is the making of the Arlington National Cemetery tomb guards
I got to Parris Island around midnight. There were six of us in one van. After we got off the yellow footprints, there was no more walking lol. And the female drill instructors scared me more than the men lol.
I worked the 4Bn chow hall during mess and maintenance week. I agree wholeheartedly. I got used to the men DI’s, but those women scared me.
@kevinholloway9622 what year? I was 2006. 2nd Battalion platoon 2012. I remember at the range they just kept at us!!
@@kyleburton3992 I was there Nov 95-Feb 96. That was back when Chesty was a private and we were all humping our old lady ALICE. 😂
I remember the guy in front of me at the repelling tower afraid of heights. HE was over the edge just like this guy was. Only difference is the DI put his foot on top of his head, no helmets then, and pushed down yelling, GO AWAY. The stress is extremely important. If you can not handle the stress on the battlefield you are a liability, not an asset.
i was lowk in the MEPs process for marines but didnt pass my asvab but went to the army and their helping me prep for mepsagain, wish me luck
Was waiting for that reaction to the snot 😂
"He's dying" it be like that sometimes 😂
My daughter in-law received the marksmanship award in the Navy ..She’s an officer and she is one of the best shooters they have! I’m serious.. She’s Badass!
I'm sorry but I re-watched the part of Fats losing it on repeat like 10 times in a row! Poor thing. I did laugh my ass off everytime though.
I have 2 Army daughters and they are absolutely awesome. Some don't make it through boot camp, including MALES . Don't say a woman cant be a soldier because it's the same heart that beats and would die for our country.
It's a different standard for men and women but they still deserve respect for serving. Women's are watered down to let them have the opportunity to serve. Very small percentage of the already small percentage of women recruits are able to pass men's standards.
1:59 For hygiene/sanitary purpose. Lice? Ringworms? And to strip your individuality as well I believe. Everyone there is the same!
Semper Fidelis. Marine Corps peacetime veteran. Parris Island.no Hollywood in me.
Cutting their hair off removes their individual identity: They MUST function as a team all the time, not as individuals.
I did 2/6 during Desert Storm but reenlisted and did the entire 8 active. I was Navy with a fear of heights, and did the tower Australian style when working with the Marines. Gator Navy here
Upon graduation, Marines are awarded, a tasty box of crayons.
Actually, there are several reasons why Marine Corps recruits have to shave their heads upon end Bootcamp the primary reason is uniformity
Hygiene is another I might add.
I couldn’t imagine being a parent missing a phone call from my kid while they are in boot camp. That alone would make me feel horrible.
Here's a fact most people don't know. Some of the top snipers in the world are females.
Fats hair is so beautiful 😮 it’s like wavy so pretty !! I know this has nothing to do with the video
Originals the hair was shaved to avoid spreading lice.
I never wanted to go back to Paris Island, but here I am. They offered me a sign on bonus and a promotion to teach here and I said no. I have spent a lot of time here though. - I would guess about 13 weeks. ;)
During the Marine Corps Boot Camp, at least when I went through Boot Camp in 1989 the spoon qualification you weren’t only wearing your camouflage boots, but you also had a rubber rifle that was the same weight as the actual M-16 strung around your neck and hanging up your back and we also had two full canteen of water on our hips
my nephew was in Afghanistan and was elected valuable marine for action during battle-they could make a movie about the fight.he retired as a Sargent first thing he did when he got home was buy a ar-15..
After you do your first year especially as a grunt you realize how easy boot camp was.
I was in the army and I was a fighter in several wars.. what the army does is break you so that it can reshape you as a fighter
Just remember as per military standards "All" recruits must qualify in all categories of combat. From hand to hand, endurance and including weapons training. The last thing the Marines or any other branch needs is a member that breaks under pressure or fails training. I am for the women fighting, those who can. My step-sister was front line in Iraq and she has always been qualified.
Respect honor loyalty
I think it's because everybody fells good with a new haircut!
As long as the standards are the same for men and women I support women on the front line. Standards must be maintained. I met one of the first women the graduate from West Point. She was a colonel serving in West Germany at the time. She was tough as nails and well qualified to serve. She was in transition from a field officer to White House security. That was decades ago.
I always laugh because I didn't get the initial heaircut. I have alopecia and my hair is patchy. A week later i had em ask if i got my haircut and I watched drill instructors get chewed out in front of me.
I was in Marine Corps Boot Camp in 1989 so I’m well-versed and why they do things in the Marine Corps
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I remember going through the gas chamber during boot camp. A recruit about three rows behind me didn't get a proper seal and started getting exposed to the gas through the leak in his mask. it was crazy, he had to stay in there and get exposed extra long while being ripped into by the TI 🤣. It was a lesson on why the seal is soooo important when donning your mask.
I went through Army basic training not Marine. I'm assuming a similar approach and rationale in all branches of military. Army, Air Force, Navy, Marines, and Coast Guard.
The 1st half of basic training is meant to break you down mentally and strip you of your individuality. The 2nd half is meant to rebuild you into what your branch of service needs you to be.
If one person makes a mistake or breaks a rule the entire unit is punished. This is in my opinion meant to teach you that in combat your mistake can get everyone killed so don't make mistakes. You want to get it right so your buddy doesn't suffer. It also teaches you to notice and help your teammates correct their short comings before the drill instructor see it. Before training or combat mission your inspecting your teammates gear and they are inspecting your to makes sure everyone is fully prepared.
its pretty crazy tho... the island looked exactly the same from when i was there lol 14:20 also it did spread into the corps and thats exactly why i got out.
They tare you down physically to rebuild you. The cuttings of the of the hair is symbolic of the physical tear down and rebuild
tear
Female marines yes, front lines No!
I think females in combat MOSs like infantry might bring some issues. That is a topic I won't talk about here. At the minimum for females to be in a combat MOS like infantry or Rangers then they should be able to pass the same tests that the males have to pass. Here at Fort Benning, now Fort Moore, they had two female soldiers go through Ranger school. They passed. But they only passed because they lowered the standard just so they would pass. That's a no go for me. I know some females who could absolutely pass the male standard. The standard should not be lowered in schools like Rangers.
That’s why the stress level is so high
You should watch Marine Sgt May’s speech. Epic.
I did Army basic training fresh out of high school at Fort Leonard Wood, MS. We trained with females. We didn't live together. If you got caught talking to a female, you got punished harshly. I hated it then, but looking it was an amazing experience.
Recruits get a mandatory haircut for the same reason there is not an I in Team.
1:48 Hahahaha! perfect timing.
I don’t think women should be front line! For one the standard is different most women can’t pick up a man and carry them if injured!
My son is in week 4 of Marine bootcamp at Paris Island now
The hair can be yoused as a weapon against you in hand to hand combat.
Its actually for hygiene/sanitary purposes.
Ya’ll should react to men with pans from America’s got talent because it shows how crazy Americans are!
The shouting is to simulte the chaos and urgency of combat.