As a car enthusiast, this is exactly what I have been thinking about. I LOVE driving to places, to meet family or to see something special. What I as someone who absolutely loves drive HATE, is having to take my car to each and every small errand that I have to run.
I feel ya. I always hated having to go driving in the city but love open roads. I recently got me an ebike and its made being in the city a much more enjoyable experience.
Ideally, none of us would be commuting. Since that isn’t feasible, choice is what we need! As a car enthusiast, I enjoy taking my cars out on a Roadtrip during weekends. On the other hand, nothing beats walking to the supermarket or to the station to take a fast and clean train to university or work. Also, this is one of the first videos I’ve seen making a clear distinction between commuting and driving! :)
Thank you! It's so true that we need different options of getting around instead of just focusing on driving! And yes more firms should allow work from home and remote work if possible to reduce the need for commuting!
What’s wrong with commuting? I love biking to work and there is literally no way for me to do my job from home. I wouldn’t want to, either. At home alone all the time? That sucks. That’s so isolating.
Jeremy Clarkson - one of the most famous car guys out there hated 4x4 on town centres. He hated Crossovers, he hated "boring cars" - and the more I lived in transit-oriented cities, the more I understand. Driving an Alfa Romeo Giulia QV out in the Italian countrysides is a spiritual experience that only petrolhead can understand. You can try to stuff million more creature comforts into your Escalade - it still won't fix all the stresses from waiting 1 hour at interstate exit. Car companies are phasing out exciting nice cars for cheap, dull, econo-boxes, because they are increasingly focused on car-crippled commuters. In other video focusing on homeless, a lot of people confessed about being "bankrupted" by unexpected car repair bills. Unable to rent places near to job, and unable to finance new cars, so they are stuck with jalopy used ones. Car companies also selling taller and less driver-oriented cars, simply because road infrastructures are ruined by more and more people driving cars. The traffic are getting dangerous since many people who don't want to drive or not really into cars, are being forced to drive in car-oriented towns, so people are competing by making their cars bigger and thus even more dangerous. I understand now, why the US - the nation that is very car-oriented, failed to match the reputation of higher quality Japanese cars, a nation known as "railway nation" - it is because their cars have to compete with excellent rail transit services. Meanwhile in North America, car companies compete against nothing, they just lobby government to favour their bottomline without having to think about their customers. Currently, the top 3 best-selling car brands in the world are non-US: Toyota, VW, and Hyundai - all of them coming from countries with above average public transit system.
The arterial road that I live off of in San Antonio connects the city's medical district to the interstate. Each day, like clockwork, traffic backs up for an entire mile. And the vast majority of cars only have a single occupant in them. So much space taken up so everybody can have their own little pod...
@@user-iz7fu2dp6qI've seen it multiple time! And someone shall make a renewed version of it given that many are driving SUVs and pickup trucks, larger and longer vehicles!
If they are not overcrowded, the ac is working and they are punctual. All those things are a rarity here in Germany. Not an option for many people even if they wanted to.
@@Watson2108 overcrowded trains are not the worst thing. I'd rather have a punctual service that is overcrowded and dirty than a unreliable service that is quiet and clean.
@@Watson2108 In Singapore, both commuting by car and public transport is arguably equally frustrating during rush hours as cars are stuck in traffic, bus and trains are very crowded. Cycling is normally not an option as it is often the slowest and sweatiest. Cycling requires the person cycling to wake up earlier to shower at his/her destination, provided that there is a shower facility, normally there's none.
I have had the same thoughts for a long time. Also Canadian. Most people buy cars like they buy house hold appliances like dish washers. If public transit was actually safe, clean, cost effective and reliable. Like it is in many Asian countries we could have 50% to 80% less cars on the road. It would do everyone a good thing. People will be able to rent out cars if they need to. And people who enjoy having cars for personal enjoyment could continue their leisure driving weekend escapades.
Loads of people back in the day had Horses. Every human should be legally allowed to own Personal Transport. Imagine how shit life would be if you’re just cooped up at home and can’t go anywhere there are no bus routes. Thats some dystopia sht man. I can downgrade to a motorcycle because of space problems were all having but no more than that.
@@maalikserebryakovTrue, but. Legally allowed? Yes, absolutely. Cars shouldn't be outright banned. That would make you like North Korea, limiting its people from one of humanity's best technological achievement. BUT, it shouldn't be an absolute nessecity. Also, "not being able to go where there's no bus route" is usually not a problem for most people. Most people live and work where other people live and work too, and they're usually conveniently grouped up closely together. This is why cities exist. Coincidentally, cities are the perfect environment for bus routes. High density, short range, high demand, high pace. If properly planned, bus routes can cover 80% of the average city dweller's travel needs. Now what about middle of nowheres? Places too remote to put a bus network? I agree, we cant make bus routes here. They're simply not economical. Too low demand, inconsistent timing. "Who wants to take the 7 AM bus from Smallville to Big City? Oh you need to go at 1 PM? Next one comes at 5 PM, so tough luck." For these places, yes, personal cars, especially for residents. If you're an outsider, taxis exist. Or car rents. Or, even better, motorbikes. If you only carry 1-2 people, less than 20~ kg cargo, and no more than 10 km, then a motorbike scooter works just fine. They're also cheaper and more fuel efficient.
@@maalikserebryakov then just get a fking car, it's your property, and maybe someone else just wants to take the integrated route to downtown because hey it's always gonna get you to downtown like water or electricity is always gonna work
@@maalikserebryakovwhy does “people shouldn’t be required to own a car” always translate to “people shouldn’t be allowed to own a car” for you car brains? If people had alternatives to commuting by car, driving would be BETTER for people who want to drive.
I often read car reviews about how "exciting" a car is to drive and how enjoyable it all is. Nice, but my commute to work is nothing like the closed course you did that on. I honestly don't care how nice it is to drive on empty, immaculate roads at someone else's expense. I will be sludging through rush hour traffic with a boot full of stuff on my way to work over potholed roads. It's nice if a car is also a great plaything but not if it makes it a substantially worse commuter. Which it generally does.
Cars now are too stiff handling and prioritize “sportiness” over comfort. There was a time where cars were like living rooms on wheels and rode like clouds, which all in all is better for commuting
@@dinanbimmertv1864ah they still exist, you’re just looking in the wrong genre. Base models are usually kind of comfortable, then there are the sport packages which are well, more aggressive and then there are the luxury ones who focus solely on being the most comfortable. Usually sedans and small cars (not hatchbacks, but like smaller cars with 5 doors) are the most comfortable at the base configuration
@@sharl1633 well those luxury sedans tend to be more exclusive and have higher price tags. I mean in the 1970s to early 80s the vast majority of cars available were big comfy sedans and wagons. Now sedans and wagons are sparse in favour of SUVs and pickups, especially those with solely comfort in mind. And they’re more expensive, the luxury cars which also tend to be more sport oriented anyway. I just wish they could have soft riding cars with cushy seats that were affordable again. I mean I wouldn’t want to commute by car every time anyway, but I rarely have another choice that is safe enough, riding a bike is scary where I live and walking is severely unpleasant and also dangerous. So let’s put myself in a car, and if that’s the only option I want something comfy, not a track beast.
@@dinanbimmertv1864 well ye they are more expensive. Base models are still comfortable tho, or atleast not stiff. And due to inflation luxury models or even base ones tend to be more expensive. Tho I have to agree, the vintage aesthetic in old cars is pretty sick and it’s disappointing we are missing that in modern cars. I dont know how it really feels like to have a car from 2022 or 2023 for obvious reasons so maybe your right and even base models are stiff.
@@sharl1633 Ride comfort has mostly declined because buyers prefer larger wheels and smaller sidewalls for the style points. Example, base model Honda Accord 2005 came with tire size 205/65/R15, meaning 15 inch rim with 133.25 mm sidewall. 2023 Honda Accord came with tire size 225/50/R17, meaning 17 inch rim with 112.5 mm sidewall. The luxury executive models like BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, etc. are even worse as they tend to have very large wheels and very low ride heights. Even Cadillac which was renown for being the pinnacle of American comfort in a vehicle, is no longer about the comfort. James May blames the Nurburgring.
I live in Montevideo, Uruguay Here, the car is still the king, but it's not even close to the car centrism of North America. Our bus service is *decent* and the bike infrastructure is actually quite good in some parts of the city (though it doesn't properly connect the entire city, which is a shame because i have to hop from a bike network to a different one when I commute to school by bike) My family never had a car growing up and when my mom recently bought one she was applauded by other family members and friends as if she had finally ditched the bus and advanced on our way to freedom and happiness. To the contrary, though the car evidently affected positively on her transport capabilities, driving is extremely stressful for her (she had an accident when she was young) and needs constantly when driving with passengers for them to tell her if a car is coming. I don't believe this is even close to an upgrade, it's just more expensive and stressful. We need to socially change our minds about the cars, not only to have alternatives (it's a circle, one needs the other and the other needs the one) Because even when biking is feasible and the bus is a fairly good option, people really need the social acceptance of driving a car, and this only makes things worse for everyone. It makes it worse for bike and bus commuters because less money is invested in their infrastructure and it affects car commuters and car recreational drivers because it generates a lot of traffic. Not to mention it affects the whole living world because cars are a lot more pollutant than buses and bikes. PD1: I didn't plan to make this comment so long but it came out like this, if you red this thank you for your time
in Jakarta Indonesia we have a "car free day". if not banning cars across the city survived how many hours every sunday morning. people can feel how beautiful their city is if there are no cars. this makes the community support 100% of the construction of public transportation and bicycle paths.
This has destroyed smaller businesses in many city centres in Europe & UK that banned personal cars from town centres.. Now just the big names, gambling and vaping shops survive and nearly every town centre looks the same even the ones with 100s of years of history.
the solution to traffic is not more cars. The solution is choice of commuting modes. Commuting by bike, bus, train, tram, car, horse, whatever are all equally valid (personally, Single occupancy cars are the worst) . The problem is when EVERYONE is force to go through one mode of traffic at the same time. everyone of these modes have different carrying capacities.
The way I see it,transport is of two: Intracity transport. I think for this, Buses, Motorcycles/Ebikes, Trams, Bicycles. The Bus Lanes are separate from the small motor vehicle roads, and this road is only large enough for a small car. Larger cars will have some trouble, but not impossible for them. For Intercity Transport: Trains, Buses Motorcycles, Car And the railway network should be robust enough to cover most needs. Buses are useful for journeys between small cities. Naturally motorcycles and Cars will be commuting next to them, but under different highway laws. So city’s should be planned to discourage excess Cars, by making Trams, Making Bicycle Lanes, making standard roads smaller and fewer. Raising insurance on Cars and reducing on Motorcycles.
I am super bummed the San Francisco to Los Angeles Speed train is being delayed heavily, I would love to constantly use that to commute, but sadly it doesn't exist yet. Trains are awesome.
I love driving period , my instructor was my g/f's mother and she used to pick me up from work , ( which was on the far edge of our CBD in Melbourne Australia ) And she always made me drive through the city to get home , we had Trams as well as very unique " Hook Turns " which were only in the CBD and were always located at intersections where there were tramlines both ways , essentially , it meant that you turned right from the left hand lane ... I've never been a speeder and have always been pretty patient in traffic , and have almost always been the designated driver for Family and Friends , I've usually had pretty good cars and sometimes have had the opportunity to drive some rather spectacular machines belonging to Family and/or Friends too ...We used to drive along the East Coast of Australia once or twice a year , which was a fantastic trip of around 4200 kms or 1790 miles , never hurried and never stressed and in all kinds of cars ...
This is an important distinction. I hear so much "cars are bad" but not "commuting is bad". But even here, I am seeing more of "commuting by car is bad" and not just "commuting is bad". Why does nobody hate dense central business districts? They seem to create problems. Improving commutes with transit would be nice but it won't solve housing affordability, homelessness, crime. You won't get HOA dues below $1000 in a high rise. I am not clear what the end game is for densification advocates or the quality of life they think they can get from it. People don't seem to think corporate desk jobs are useful to society or like living in 5 over 1 but these are the hoops we have to jump through. I don't buy the economic efficiency argument that it is beneficial to pack everyone into a smaller and smaller number of urban agglomerations and let the Detroits fall apart.
Fortunately for us all (except the corporations that own all the urban real estate, lol), we may very well be near the beginning of the end. Between more people resisting the demand to return to the office, increasing safety concerns due to politicians refusing to address crime, and the vicious cycle of “things deteriorate” > “people and businesses leave” > “things deteriorate faster”, the absolutely ridiculous bubble of urban real estate and general cost of living might finally pop. Of course, most of America’s big cities are nowhere near as bad as San Francisco is right now, but they can all look forward to a similar fate in 5-10 years if the current trend of condoning crime continues.
Everyone who hates driving should take the bus. This leaves only those of us who like driving on the roads. Let’s just do it that way. If you hate driving, you don’t have to do it anymore. The people that hate driving tend to be the worst at it. It’s a win win here. Take the people who don’t like driving off, keep the people that do, now accidents get greatly reduced because everyone on the road knows how to drive a car, accidents are greatly reduced because there aren’t idiots doing their makeup and on their phones behind the wheel, all those people are on the bus, the people driving their own cars actually signal when they’re going to turn/merge, let’s just do this instead
Dude please watch the whole video. He literally said "to some people, it (the car) is their only option to get around." Maybe transform cities and streets should be done first before your point of "everyone who hates driving should take the bus."
@@domomot4025 do you not think it’s possible that I did watch the whole video, I just simply added a comment expanding on that part… you know, like comments are meant for?
Driving enthusiasts should love public transit: it takes all the terrible/incompetent drivers, and those drivers who honestly would prefer not to drive anyway, out of their cars, out of your way, and into a cleaner, more efficient/effective transit method. This would also allow governments to adopt more stringent licensing requirements (e.g. demonstrating a reasonable level of care, skill and attention in order to earn your license, vs. simply having a pulse and being able to fill out the form/pay the fee). It's win-win!
I live in a rural place where driving is the only other option aside from hitching or walking. People here couldn’t imagine anything other than driving as a commuting option
I love driving, I love going on roadtrips. And while a big part of my job includes driving at work, my daily commute to work and back home is a 10 minutes walk through the village. Living in a village right outside our state's capital city and its county we are served by more or less decent public transport, however living almost at the edge of the village the walk to our station would be like 20 to 25 minutes - in the same time I would have reached the Middle Ring Road in the city if I went by car. Well, a 20 minute walk to the station. But then there are only 3 trains per hour per direction, so if you've just missed the train you wait another 20 minutes, maybe even longer if there are delays. And than it takes quite some time to actuall get into the city. That's not really a good option. Another option to get into the city is a 5 minute walk to a bus station the next cross road, and taking the bus to the next town which has subway services into the city.
I just came back from some errands and decided to park a few blocks away from a weekly street market my town does. There are borders placed every Friday through Sunday in the City Center to respect the weekly street market. All cars have to go around about four blocks of City Center road, because the roads are no longer roads. The roads are now (at least temporarily) anything else. I Think this idea would do good for other cities in America. The idea of creating temporary market places is great start to making the streets a little more balanced for everyday use.
My former employer offered to pay for me to park my car at the parking structure. He probably didn't want me to ever be late for work. I refused and he was like "Whaaaat?" He offered parking to me several times, and even though I had a car, I would take the bus (about 20 minutes, including walking) or walk (about 45 minutes). Driving would have taken me 10-15 minutes including parking and walking. It's just crazy to me that driving was seen as a given even though I didn't live that far away and had alternative ways of commuting.
as a dutchie I got excited when he mentioned multi modal commuting and showed 2 clips of the netherlands (one train on the left and a bike trip on the right)
Nice video, it’s really important to differentiate between the two. Road trips can be fun and refreshing but spending 20+ minutes on a busy stroad per day… not so much.
Great video, you definitely deserve more subscribers. I totally agree, no-one should be forced to own a car to live their lives. But to explore the world or transport local goods, cars are great.
ohhh Carnada! felt, as someone that likes fun cars but is also a staunch urbanist. i purposefully do not drive into the downtown of my city, i use my bike for that psst 6:05 dodge viper!
I've been looking for a video like this for a long time, it perfectly explains my views on cars. Driving with friends on open runs going on far distances is surreal, but having to commute by car is extremely irritating and unhealthy for people and cities
Recently bought a Toyota MR2 SW20 and I was like this car is so cool, I'm gonna drive it everywhere... Little did I know... Driving on dates, roadtrips, random drives outside of the city its so fun, it is the perfect car for it. For commuting, not so much
Finally a channel that balances the conversation. I think it's important to make this distinction. The pendulum needs to swing in the direction of public transit but the "ban all cars" & "no one needs cars" rhetoric is a bridge too far. The issue with cars is excess: small trips, parking minimums & car-dependent designed communities.
In the U.S. and Canada though, it isn’t really fair though when most people don’t have any other option. Granted, they still deserve some when they choose to drive a giant ass gas guzzling pick up or SUV while carrying nothing and nobody but themselves.
@@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 Everybody in the US and Canada has other options. Driving here is a choice made by the most privileged people in the world, yet a little criticism seems to hurt a lot.
@@jakesaari7652 What options? For most people, most places are too far to walk to, there’s sub par or no transit available and more people could bike, but even if every private car was replaced with a bike, they’d still have to share the road with large delivery vehicles, like semi-trucks. And for most people, that would be very uncomfortable.
@@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 Sounds like a laziness problem. Prioritizing your needs and being grateful would be a better use of your time than playing games and complaining about walking. It's only been the last 2 generations that developed an addiction to driving. It can be broken with effort.
Totally understand, driving around Spokane WA is fantastic. I love doing so even in regular passenger cars, but when I have to commute up division st or newport highway for 15+ minutes to get somewhere its just unbearable. Its genuinely terrible. I wish I could just take a train or bus to my destination, and enjoy driving where its actually worth doing...
On the topic of urban planning in North America, I think Canada is a lot better than the US, but still lacks behind most of the world. In my home city of Calgary, even in the most car dependent neighborhoods there is stuff like apartments, duplexes, town houses or even sidewalks. And cities of similar sizes to Edmonton, Calgary, Ottawa or definitely Kitchener-Waterloo would not have metro trains in the US unlike in Canada
An interesting thing is that due to induced demand, Public transit does not actually reduce traffic. Mixed Use and Bringing Jobs closer to people does. With public transit for every car you take off the road, another one will be there to fill the space.
Doesn't work when there's only one bus per day from village to town because bus companies can't afford to carry so few passengers and only stick to profitable busiest roads.
What I've long said is that you shouldn't have to use a car for anything you have to do regularly. Examples include commuting to work, getting groceries, getting a haircut, hell, I'd even include going to a park or a bar on the weekends in that list. But like, if I wanna go hiking upstate, or I wanna go to some random music festival, yeah, why not take a car? And what's great about those things is that if you do them irregularly enough, you can just rent a car when you need it, rather than having to own, maintain, and make space for a car The other day I did a 3 hour drive to go to a music show. It was a lot of fun driving on the wide interstates while blasting music with my friends. The idea of commuting to my job by car instead of by feet everyday just seems awful to me
I used to make this distinction to people but the term I used was "Cruising" There is nothing like cruising down a dead highway in the middle of night listening to some of your favorite music But thats like 5% of driving. the other 95% is getting angry at other metal boxes being on the road
I ocassionly like being in traffic and town/city driving due to me always wanting to roleplay these things when i was younger via video games/simulator games. But yes after a while it gets very old very quick. And when you actually need to be somewhere you don't look forward to (like work), it's so much worse.
my absolute happy place is behind the wheel of my car, but I understand its not that for most people. If there were reliable, fast public transit options (that are cheaper than owning a car) for those who only have a car because they need one, they will be happier because they can get to work more easily and the people who like driving, or still need to drive will be happier with the quieter, faster roads and highways.
When i lived in Orlando Florida back in the 90s i rode my bike to Holler Chevrolet 7 miles away Lots of sidewalks. i could make it 10 minutes quicker than taking my car . Then i moved to Arkansas and rode a few miles each way a lot less traffic but no sidewalks and the hills and gravel all over the roads we're murder
If I could just drive when I want, I’d be so happy…commuting in a car is soulless and dead inside, which I do more than driving, so my car is soulless and it’s the only way I can do so efficiently. I’d kill for a bus or a train station near me even being an enthusiast. Driving should be fun. Commuting kills me every time I do it.
I think the way things are brought up in conversation is what leads to scoffs or gaffs. really, It's the approach. most people even car lovers are for other modes of transport. our public transit right now just looks in poor shape which does need a major rehaul and it is happening. it just takes time.
lol I remember commuting to work by a car for like 3months and that was the worst fucking time I've had, I preferred to take a bus and im saying that as a diehard car enthusiast
I just want to be able to bike or take the train to visit my family in slightly rural areas like I could do in the Netherlands or Germany. I don't mind driving but if I can hangout with my kids on a 45 minute train ride vs essentially ignoring them on an hour drive I will take the train.
Do they ever have traffic congestion in Canada? All I see is (almost) empty and very wide roads. I wish the roads on my route were as easy as your worst-case example on 5:08, but no, not even on Sunday morning.
I personally enjoy driving at rush hour. That being said I wish the Hillsborough Area Regional Transit city bus service in Tampa connects with my local Citrus Connection transit service in Polk County since usingtransit is cheaper than paying for gas however I would commute by car to Tampa on some days when I feel like it. If Tampa and Lakeland had a transit connection it would take at least 15% of cars off Interstate 4 (technically drivers from Lakeland and Plant City should be using U.S. Highway 92 since Interstate 4 is specifically designed to connect traffic from central Florida to Interstates 75 and 95 out of the State of Florida hence the name Interstate).
You last sentance is exactly what has happened in The Netherlands. While car commuting over here is still massive, virtually nobody would dare to mock bike commuters, since they would piss off up to half of their circle of friends. Therefore this is a huge no no in The Netherlands. The key element is the (absence of) bike infrastructure. Without it bike commuting is simply impossible, indesirable or unsafe
Current city designs seems outdated. Would love to see urban planners with these novel ideas in action for city redesign, especially the ones that discourage one person car commute to nearby grocery stores.
I love driving when it's to get somewhere close or is through a beautiful area... but otherwise, I just prefer walking. If only we had good transit, I would never drive.
For some classes of jobs, the commute lasts all day. Delivery drivers and those who drive to homes or businesses with a truck or van full of tools will forever be stuck dealing with traffic.
I'd love if public transport was better. There's a bus that runs by my community but it's so early. And if I miss it then I have to drive or call an Uber. I'm a car guy but I'd rather not drive to work
any driving that takes place in a city is not really driving. i love driving, i hate doing it in cities. thankfully i dont commute daily. my office is right next door to my house.
I like the idea of some low level self driving. It seems to me if we have to be stuck in bumper to bumper traffic (where the old man in a walker is faster than the cars), it would be far better to let the computer handle that and let us read or work. The stress of driving under those conditions is awful. But when the road opens up, I want to drive! That said, having a system that can keep me from getting killed if I sneeze at 85MPH (or just miss something) is desirable. It doesn't have to be perfect, just better than doing without. Perhaps we can bridge from where we are to the future we need with some somewhat automated cars. Just imagine a car that you can leave as the door at work and it will get parked somehow, at least mostly without human intervention. Even if you have to walk somewhere to get it back later on it would still be a win vs the parking hellscape most of us deal with daily.
I have had to still do travel by car for long distances and I hate it. It is not enjoyable in anyway. I'd much rather take a long distance train but they are so expensive that it is more affordable to go by car. This is also in a time I can decide when to leave. It is not fun to drive a long way and drive back tired. Driving is better with short distances when there are no others on the road.
My commute by car isn't like that at all. I can choose my hours, so I can avoid bad traffic times here in Atlanta, and my drive is only 8 miles, so it isn't a long distance. It also doesn't use main roads, so traffic jams are not a factor.
You are definitely in a very small minority. Even then, you'd probably benefit from improved transit and cycling options, because even if you continue to choose to drive, today's back roads are tomorrow's shortcut to avoid traffic. I saw it happen on the street by my house, in no way a main road, but people figured out they could use it to get around a bottleneck where there are several major intersections close together, so every day, traffic now backs up on our little back road with everyone going around that bottleneck, ironically creating a new additional bottleneck.
This is definitely a case of "I like my lifestyle/situation but it isn't the norm". More people than not have miserable traffic commutes and and can't just choose their hours like that.
I love my cars, we have 11 of them, but i love public transport too, and wish the uk had better public transit. My city of 100,000 people has 2 train stations right next to eachover and the buses are terrible.
Uk is similar size island country to Japan. Japan has great public transportation and electric trains while uk trains and public transport is terrible.
5:26 I don't understand what you're getting at when you say that riding a bike for leisure and riding to work are two different concepts "just like" driving for leisure and driving to work are. If you like cycling then you have fun no matter what your destination is, the same can't be said for commuting by car.
Speak for yourself. I've seen a couple other people here, as well as myself, that enjoy commuting by car. However, the difference is location. People like us that even enjoy commuting by car typically live in more rural areas or smaller cities, and/or commute during off hours, as well as having a deep enough love for driving. There's also going to be people with custom sound systems in their car, not necessarily big loud ones but really well tuned ones with lots of soundproofing in the doors, and these people usually like commuting in their own cars even in traffic.
Very well put and very well made. Good info. Im definitely a driver... Car commuters are such tools... Lol.... No concept on how a car functions or what it looks like. Makes just enough to pay for the fuel and rent.... Pathetic. it really is.. we need to stop having such a culture of tools which is whst you are slowly seeing.. office culture is finally dying.. 9-5 is dying.. people are doing there own thing.. gigging.. finally
What do you think would happen if instead of bike commuters, cars commuters are the ones being considered "different"?👀
This is my ideal reality
Bikers wouldn't be yelled at for riding on the road 🤧
That would be incredible.
By bike do you mean Motorcycles or bicycles or both?
@@maalikserebryakov I meant bicycles when i wrote my comment
As a car enthusiast, this is exactly what I have been thinking about. I LOVE driving to places, to meet family or to see something special. What I as someone who absolutely loves drive HATE, is having to take my car to each and every small errand that I have to run.
Same!
I feel ya. I always hated having to go driving in the city but love open roads.
I recently got me an ebike and its made being in the city a much more enjoyable experience.
Excellent reminder: You are not stuck in traffic, you ARE traffic!
Ideally, none of us would be commuting. Since that isn’t feasible, choice is what we need! As a car enthusiast, I enjoy taking my cars out on a Roadtrip during weekends. On the other hand, nothing beats walking to the supermarket or to the station to take a fast and clean train to university or work.
Also, this is one of the first videos I’ve seen making a clear distinction between commuting and driving! :)
Thank you! It's so true that we need different options of getting around instead of just focusing on driving! And yes more firms should allow work from home and remote work if possible to reduce the need for commuting!
Oh but it is feasible :) Working from home helps a lot and mixed use development with good density helps so much :D
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What’s wrong with commuting? I love biking to work and there is literally no way for me to do my job from home. I wouldn’t want to, either. At home alone all the time? That sucks. That’s so isolating.
I don't want to ban cars I want to eliminate commuter culture, at least 65% of my downtown is dedicated to surface parking.
The problem is never cars! It's car dependency! Though some cars are just too big for the roads.
@@morethantransitt let's just make everyone buy a limousine
Ah yes, learning to drift the philandra in watch dogs will finally become useful information
Ever seen a map of Winnipeg's downtown parking infrastructure? It's depressing.
@@espantaviejas3000.I agree, commute but **fancy**
Jeremy Clarkson - one of the most famous car guys out there hated 4x4 on town centres. He hated Crossovers, he hated "boring cars" - and the more I lived in transit-oriented cities, the more I understand. Driving an Alfa Romeo Giulia QV out in the Italian countrysides is a spiritual experience that only petrolhead can understand. You can try to stuff million more creature comforts into your Escalade - it still won't fix all the stresses from waiting 1 hour at interstate exit.
Car companies are phasing out exciting nice cars for cheap, dull, econo-boxes, because they are increasingly focused on car-crippled commuters. In other video focusing on homeless, a lot of people confessed about being "bankrupted" by unexpected car repair bills. Unable to rent places near to job, and unable to finance new cars, so they are stuck with jalopy used ones.
Car companies also selling taller and less driver-oriented cars, simply because road infrastructures are ruined by more and more people driving cars. The traffic are getting dangerous since many people who don't want to drive or not really into cars, are being forced to drive in car-oriented towns, so people are competing by making their cars bigger and thus even more dangerous.
I understand now, why the US - the nation that is very car-oriented, failed to match the reputation of higher quality Japanese cars, a nation known as "railway nation" - it is because their cars have to compete with excellent rail transit services. Meanwhile in North America, car companies compete against nothing, they just lobby government to favour their bottomline without having to think about their customers. Currently, the top 3 best-selling car brands in the world are non-US: Toyota, VW, and Hyundai - all of them coming from countries with above average public transit system.
I wish cheap was still on that list, now dealerships are marking them up in insane prices too 💀
The arterial road that I live off of in San Antonio connects the city's medical district to the interstate. Each day, like clockwork, traffic backs up for an entire mile. And the vast majority of cars only have a single occupant in them. So much space taken up so everybody can have their own little pod...
If we make all the cars go invisible in this scenario, this basically look like the movement of people when social distancing was still around!
@@morethantransitt There is actually a video on TH-cam that just shows that, it's called "Saturn Ion Commercial"
@@user-iz7fu2dp6qI've seen it multiple time! And someone shall make a renewed version of it given that many are driving SUVs and pickup trucks, larger and longer vehicles!
Buses and rail are the best methods. Being able to read, work, eat, or sleep during your commute is great.
I'll take the first 3 haha! Have slept on trains and missed my stations before 😅
If they are not overcrowded, the ac is working and they are punctual. All those things are a rarity here in Germany. Not an option for many people even if they wanted to.
@@Watson2108 overcrowded trains are not the worst thing. I'd rather have a punctual service that is overcrowded and dirty than a unreliable service that is quiet and clean.
@@Mgameing123That´s the problem. We don´t have any of that.
Dirty, overcrowded, unreliable, expensive...😅
@@Watson2108 In Singapore, both commuting by car and public transport is arguably equally frustrating during rush hours as cars are stuck in traffic, bus and trains are very crowded.
Cycling is normally not an option as it is often the slowest and sweatiest. Cycling requires the person cycling to wake up earlier to shower at his/her destination, provided that there is a shower facility, normally there's none.
I have had the same thoughts for a long time. Also Canadian. Most people buy cars like they buy house hold appliances like dish washers. If public transit was actually safe, clean, cost effective and reliable. Like it is in many Asian countries we could have 50% to 80% less cars on the road. It would do everyone a good thing. People will be able to rent out cars if they need to. And people who enjoy having cars for personal enjoyment could continue their leisure driving weekend escapades.
Loads of people back in the day had Horses. Every human should be legally allowed to own Personal Transport.
Imagine how shit life would be if you’re just cooped up at home and can’t go anywhere there are no bus routes. Thats some dystopia sht man.
I can downgrade to a motorcycle because of space problems were all having but no more than that.
@@maalikserebryakovTrue, but.
Legally allowed? Yes, absolutely. Cars shouldn't be outright banned. That would make you like North Korea, limiting its people from one of humanity's best technological achievement. BUT, it shouldn't be an absolute nessecity.
Also, "not being able to go where there's no bus route" is usually not a problem for most people. Most people live and work where other people live and work too, and they're usually conveniently grouped up closely together. This is why cities exist.
Coincidentally, cities are the perfect environment for bus routes. High density, short range, high demand, high pace. If properly planned, bus routes can cover 80% of the average city dweller's travel needs.
Now what about middle of nowheres? Places too remote to put a bus network? I agree, we cant make bus routes here. They're simply not economical. Too low demand, inconsistent timing. "Who wants to take the 7 AM bus from Smallville to Big City? Oh you need to go at 1 PM? Next one comes at 5 PM, so tough luck."
For these places, yes, personal cars, especially for residents. If you're an outsider, taxis exist. Or car rents. Or, even better, motorbikes. If you only carry 1-2 people, less than 20~ kg cargo, and no more than 10 km, then a motorbike scooter works just fine. They're also cheaper and more fuel efficient.
@@maalikserebryakov then just get a fking car, it's your property, and maybe someone else just wants to take the integrated route to downtown because hey it's always gonna get you to downtown like water or electricity is always gonna work
@@maalikserebryakovwhy does “people shouldn’t be required to own a car” always translate to “people shouldn’t be allowed to own a car” for you car brains?
If people had alternatives to commuting by car, driving would be BETTER for people who want to drive.
I often read car reviews about how "exciting" a car is to drive and how enjoyable it all is. Nice, but my commute to work is nothing like the closed course you did that on. I honestly don't care how nice it is to drive on empty, immaculate roads at someone else's expense. I will be sludging through rush hour traffic with a boot full of stuff on my way to work over potholed roads. It's nice if a car is also a great plaything but not if it makes it a substantially worse commuter. Which it generally does.
Cars now are too stiff handling and prioritize “sportiness” over comfort. There was a time where cars were like living rooms on wheels and rode like clouds, which all in all is better for commuting
@@dinanbimmertv1864ah they still exist, you’re just looking in the wrong genre. Base models are usually kind of comfortable, then there are the sport packages which are well, more aggressive and then there are the luxury ones who focus solely on being the most comfortable. Usually sedans and small cars (not hatchbacks, but like smaller cars with 5 doors) are the most comfortable at the base configuration
@@sharl1633 well those luxury sedans tend to be more exclusive and have higher price tags. I mean in the 1970s to early 80s the vast majority of cars available were big comfy sedans and wagons. Now sedans and wagons are sparse in favour of SUVs and pickups, especially those with solely comfort in mind. And they’re more expensive, the luxury cars which also tend to be more sport oriented anyway. I just wish they could have soft riding cars with cushy seats that were affordable again. I mean I wouldn’t want to commute by car every time anyway, but I rarely have another choice that is safe enough, riding a bike is scary where I live and walking is severely unpleasant and also dangerous. So let’s put myself in a car, and if that’s the only option I want something comfy, not a track beast.
@@dinanbimmertv1864 well ye they are more expensive. Base models are still comfortable tho, or atleast not stiff. And due to inflation luxury models or even base ones tend to be more expensive. Tho I have to agree, the vintage aesthetic in old cars is pretty sick and it’s disappointing we are missing that in modern cars. I dont know how it really feels like to have a car from 2022 or 2023 for obvious reasons so maybe your right and even base models are stiff.
@@sharl1633 Ride comfort has mostly declined because buyers prefer larger wheels and smaller sidewalls for the style points.
Example, base model Honda Accord 2005 came with tire size 205/65/R15, meaning 15 inch rim with 133.25 mm sidewall.
2023 Honda Accord came with tire size 225/50/R17, meaning 17 inch rim with 112.5 mm sidewall.
The luxury executive models like BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, etc. are even worse as they tend to have very large wheels and very low ride heights. Even Cadillac which was renown for being the pinnacle of American comfort in a vehicle, is no longer about the comfort. James May blames the Nurburgring.
This is why having 2 cars is often nice to have. one as a weekday, the other one as a weekend car. obviously this is if someone has the $ to do so.
I live in Montevideo, Uruguay
Here, the car is still the king, but it's not even close to the car centrism of North America.
Our bus service is *decent* and the bike infrastructure is actually quite good in some parts of the city (though it doesn't properly connect the entire city, which is a shame because i have to hop from a bike network to a different one when I commute to school by bike)
My family never had a car growing up and when my mom recently bought one she was applauded by other family members and friends as if she had finally ditched the bus and advanced on our way to freedom and happiness.
To the contrary, though the car evidently affected positively on her transport capabilities, driving is extremely stressful for her (she had an accident when she was young) and needs constantly when driving with passengers for them to tell her if a car is coming.
I don't believe this is even close to an upgrade, it's just more expensive and stressful.
We need to socially change our minds about the cars, not only to have alternatives (it's a circle, one needs the other and the other needs the one)
Because even when biking is feasible and the bus is a fairly good option, people really need the social acceptance of driving a car, and this only makes things worse for everyone. It makes it worse for bike and bus commuters because less money is invested in their infrastructure and it affects car commuters and car recreational drivers because it generates a lot of traffic. Not to mention it affects the whole living world because cars are a lot more pollutant than buses and bikes.
PD1: I didn't plan to make this comment so long but it came out like this, if you red this thank you for your time
Looks like the car culture and the mindset of "having a car = freedom" is not just a North American thing. Thanks for your story!
If anything, I’m disappointed that in most places of the world getting stuck in car traffic is seen as a status symbol
in Jakarta Indonesia we have a "car free day". if not banning cars across the city survived how many hours every sunday morning. people can feel how beautiful their city is if there are no cars. this makes the community support 100% of the construction of public transportation and bicycle paths.
This has destroyed smaller businesses in many city centres in Europe & UK that banned personal cars from town centres..
Now just the big names, gambling and vaping shops survive and nearly every town centre looks the same even the ones with 100s of years of history.
the solution to traffic is not more cars. The solution is choice of commuting modes. Commuting by bike, bus, train, tram, car, horse, whatever are all equally valid (personally, Single occupancy cars are the worst) . The problem is when EVERYONE is force to go through one mode of traffic at the same time. everyone of these modes have different carrying capacities.
The way I see it,transport is of two:
Intracity transport.
I think for this,
Buses, Motorcycles/Ebikes, Trams, Bicycles.
The Bus Lanes are separate from the small motor vehicle roads, and this road is only large enough for a small car. Larger cars will have some trouble, but not impossible for them.
For Intercity Transport:
Trains, Buses
Motorcycles, Car
And the railway network should be robust enough to cover most needs.
Buses are useful for journeys between small cities. Naturally motorcycles and Cars will be commuting next to them, but under different highway laws.
So city’s should be planned to discourage excess Cars, by making Trams, Making Bicycle Lanes, making standard roads smaller and fewer. Raising insurance on Cars and reducing on Motorcycles.
@@maalikserebryakov Please don't forget the metro & trains for Intracity travel.
I love driving. I dislike commuting by car.
I am super bummed the San Francisco to Los Angeles Speed train is being delayed heavily, I would love to constantly use that to commute, but sadly it doesn't exist yet. Trains are awesome.
I love driving period , my instructor was my g/f's mother and she used to pick me up from work , ( which was on the far edge of our CBD in Melbourne Australia ) And she always made me drive through the city to get home , we had Trams as well as very unique " Hook Turns " which were only in the CBD and were always located at intersections where there were tramlines both ways , essentially , it meant that you turned right from the left hand lane ... I've never been a speeder and have always been pretty patient in traffic , and have almost always been the designated driver for Family and Friends , I've usually had pretty good cars and sometimes have had the opportunity to drive some rather spectacular machines belonging to Family and/or Friends too ...We used to drive along the East Coast of Australia once or twice a year , which was a fantastic trip of around 4200 kms or 1790 miles , never hurried and never stressed and in all kinds of cars ...
I live in Atlanta and commute 50 miles to a East suburb to go to school. MARTA needs to be expanded. 3 hrs I have to get a head start. 3 HOURS.
This is an important distinction. I hear so much "cars are bad" but not "commuting is bad". But even here, I am seeing more of "commuting by car is bad" and not just "commuting is bad". Why does nobody hate dense central business districts? They seem to create problems.
Improving commutes with transit would be nice but it won't solve housing affordability, homelessness, crime. You won't get HOA dues below $1000 in a high rise. I am not clear what the end game is for densification advocates or the quality of life they think they can get from it. People don't seem to think corporate desk jobs are useful to society or like living in 5 over 1 but these are the hoops we have to jump through.
I don't buy the economic efficiency argument that it is beneficial to pack everyone into a smaller and smaller number of urban agglomerations and let the Detroits fall apart.
Fortunately for us all (except the corporations that own all the urban real estate, lol), we may very well be near the beginning of the end. Between more people resisting the demand to return to the office, increasing safety concerns due to politicians refusing to address crime, and the vicious cycle of “things deteriorate” > “people and businesses leave” > “things deteriorate faster”, the absolutely ridiculous bubble of urban real estate and general cost of living might finally pop.
Of course, most of America’s big cities are nowhere near as bad as San Francisco is right now, but they can all look forward to a similar fate in 5-10 years if the current trend of condoning crime continues.
Everyone who hates driving should take the bus. This leaves only those of us who like driving on the roads. Let’s just do it that way. If you hate driving, you don’t have to do it anymore.
The people that hate driving tend to be the worst at it.
It’s a win win here. Take the people who don’t like driving off, keep the people that do, now accidents get greatly reduced because everyone on the road knows how to drive a car, accidents are greatly reduced because there aren’t idiots doing their makeup and on their phones behind the wheel, all those people are on the bus, the people driving their own cars actually signal when they’re going to turn/merge, let’s just do this instead
Dude please watch the whole video. He literally said "to some people, it (the car) is their only option to get around." Maybe transform cities and streets should be done first before your point of "everyone who hates driving should take the bus."
@@domomot4025 do you not think it’s possible that I did watch the whole video, I just simply added a comment expanding on that part… you know, like comments are meant for?
"But but buses are for poor people and i'm too lazy to walk and I can't easily get my Mcdonalds since its always near the motorway."
Driving enthusiasts should love public transit: it takes all the terrible/incompetent drivers, and those drivers who honestly would prefer not to drive anyway, out of their cars, out of your way, and into a cleaner, more efficient/effective transit method.
This would also allow governments to adopt more stringent licensing requirements (e.g. demonstrating a reasonable level of care, skill and attention in order to earn your license, vs. simply having a pulse and being able to fill out the form/pay the fee). It's win-win!
I live in a rural place where driving is the only other option aside from hitching or walking. People here couldn’t imagine anything other than driving as a commuting option
Cars in rural settings make sense, they are annoying in suburban and especially urban settings.
I love driving, I love going on roadtrips. And while a big part of my job includes driving at work, my daily commute to work and back home is a 10 minutes walk through the village.
Living in a village right outside our state's capital city and its county we are served by more or less decent public transport, however living almost at the edge of the village the walk to our station would be like 20 to 25 minutes - in the same time I would have reached the Middle Ring Road in the city if I went by car. Well, a 20 minute walk to the station. But then there are only 3 trains per hour per direction, so if you've just missed the train you wait another 20 minutes, maybe even longer if there are delays. And than it takes quite some time to actuall get into the city. That's not really a good option.
Another option to get into the city is a 5 minute walk to a bus station the next cross road, and taking the bus to the next town which has subway services into the city.
I just came back from some errands and decided to park a few blocks away from a weekly street market my town does. There are borders placed every Friday through Sunday in the City Center to respect the weekly street market. All cars have to go around about four blocks of City Center road, because the roads are no longer roads. The roads are now (at least temporarily) anything else. I Think this idea would do good for other cities in America. The idea of creating temporary market places is great start to making the streets a little more balanced for everyday use.
My former employer offered to pay for me to park my car at the parking structure. He probably didn't want me to ever be late for work. I refused and he was like "Whaaaat?" He offered parking to me several times, and even though I had a car, I would take the bus (about 20 minutes, including walking) or walk (about 45 minutes). Driving would have taken me 10-15 minutes including parking and walking. It's just crazy to me that driving was seen as a given even though I didn't live that far away and had alternative ways of commuting.
as a dutchie I got excited when he mentioned multi modal commuting and showed 2 clips of the netherlands (one train on the left and a bike trip on the right)
Thanks for having the great systems so that a Canadian like me can learn from!
No hills in Holland! . After destruction of ww2 they were able to integrate roads and rail better than others.
This was *so* well articulated
Nice video, it’s really important to differentiate between the two. Road trips can be fun and refreshing but spending 20+ minutes on a busy stroad per day… not so much.
Great video, you definitely deserve more subscribers.
I totally agree, no-one should be forced to own a car to live their lives. But to explore the world or transport local goods, cars are great.
Commuting is necessary, driving can be leisure
I would say crawling is in fact a form of transportation, if only to justify all those times in video games where I forgot that I was prone.
ohhh Carnada!
felt, as someone that likes fun cars but is also a staunch urbanist. i purposefully do not drive into the downtown of my city, i use my bike for that
psst 6:05 dodge viper!
I've been looking for a video like this for a long time, it perfectly explains my views on cars. Driving with friends on open runs going on far distances is surreal, but having to commute by car is extremely irritating and unhealthy for people and cities
Recently bought a Toyota MR2 SW20 and I was like this car is so cool, I'm gonna drive it everywhere... Little did I know... Driving on dates, roadtrips, random drives outside of the city its so fun, it is the perfect car for it. For commuting, not so much
What a wonderful take! This is a refreshing break from the usual vitriol in transit content (looking at you, NJB)
the info NjB gives is good but recently it feels like the content and the way he interacts with his followers has become more toxic :/ idk.
Finally a channel that balances the conversation. I think it's important to make this distinction. The pendulum needs to swing in the direction of public transit but the "ban all cars" & "no one needs cars" rhetoric is a bridge too far. The issue with cars is excess: small trips, parking minimums & car-dependent designed communities.
I believe cars will always exist, so we just have to modify our city's design to reduce the number and dependence on them!
If car commuters received the same criticism as bike commuters the world would be a better place.
True. Car commuters receive surprisingly little criticism
In the U.S. and Canada though, it isn’t really fair though when most people don’t have any other option. Granted, they still deserve some when they choose to drive a giant ass gas guzzling pick up or SUV while carrying nothing and nobody but themselves.
@@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 Everybody in the US and Canada has other options. Driving here is a choice made by the most privileged people in the world, yet a little criticism seems to hurt a lot.
@@jakesaari7652 What options? For most people, most places are too far to walk to, there’s sub par or no transit available and more people could bike, but even if every private car was replaced with a bike, they’d still have to share the road with large delivery vehicles, like semi-trucks. And for most people, that would be very uncomfortable.
@@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 Sounds like a laziness problem. Prioritizing your needs and being grateful would be a better use of your time than playing games and complaining about walking. It's only been the last 2 generations that developed an addiction to driving. It can be broken with effort.
Totally understand, driving around Spokane WA is fantastic. I love doing so even in regular passenger cars, but when I have to commute up division st or newport highway for 15+ minutes to get somewhere its just unbearable. Its genuinely terrible. I wish I could just take a train or bus to my destination, and enjoy driving where its actually worth doing...
I’m watching this while commuting by train, it’s funny how I’d never see this if I were commuting by car
As someone who worked on average 3 days per jobsite, I can confirm that my single occupancy vehicle was absolutely nessasery
Did you mean an e-bike?
On the topic of urban planning in North America, I think Canada is a lot better than the US, but still lacks behind most of the world. In my home city of Calgary, even in the most car dependent neighborhoods there is stuff like apartments, duplexes, town houses or even sidewalks. And cities of similar sizes to Edmonton, Calgary, Ottawa or definitely Kitchener-Waterloo would not have metro trains in the US unlike in Canada
An interesting thing is that due to induced demand, Public transit does not actually reduce traffic. Mixed Use and Bringing Jobs closer to people does. With public transit for every car you take off the road, another one will be there to fill the space.
Yep! This is why solving public transit requires more than just improving transit!
Doesn't work when there's only one bus per day from village to town because bus companies can't afford to carry so few passengers and only stick to profitable busiest roads.
What I've long said is that you shouldn't have to use a car for anything you have to do regularly. Examples include commuting to work, getting groceries, getting a haircut, hell, I'd even include going to a park or a bar on the weekends in that list. But like, if I wanna go hiking upstate, or I wanna go to some random music festival, yeah, why not take a car? And what's great about those things is that if you do them irregularly enough, you can just rent a car when you need it, rather than having to own, maintain, and make space for a car
The other day I did a 3 hour drive to go to a music show. It was a lot of fun driving on the wide interstates while blasting music with my friends. The idea of commuting to my job by car instead of by feet everyday just seems awful to me
I used to make this distinction to people but the term I used was "Cruising"
There is nothing like cruising down a dead highway in the middle of night listening to some of your favorite music
But thats like 5% of driving. the other 95% is getting angry at other metal boxes being on the road
I ocassionly like being in traffic and town/city driving due to me always wanting to roleplay these things when i was younger via video games/simulator games. But yes after a while it gets very old very quick. And when you actually need to be somewhere you don't look forward to (like work), it's so much worse.
my absolute happy place is behind the wheel of my car, but I understand its not that for most people. If there were reliable, fast public transit options (that are cheaper than owning a car) for those who only have a car because they need one, they will be happier because they can get to work more easily and the people who like driving, or still need to drive will be happier with the quieter, faster roads and highways.
When i lived in Orlando Florida back in the 90s i rode my bike to Holler Chevrolet 7 miles away Lots of sidewalks. i could make it 10 minutes quicker than taking my car . Then i moved to Arkansas and rode a few miles each way a lot less traffic but no sidewalks and the hills and gravel all over the roads we're murder
If I could just drive when I want, I’d be so happy…commuting in a car is soulless and dead inside, which I do more than driving, so my car is soulless and it’s the only way I can do so efficiently. I’d kill for a bus or a train station near me even being an enthusiast.
Driving should be fun. Commuting kills me every time I do it.
I still enjoy the landscape and the feeling of driving when I'm "commuting" to work though. These things aren't excluding each other.
I think the way things are brought up in conversation is what leads to scoffs or gaffs. really, It's the approach. most people even car lovers are for other modes of transport. our public transit right now just looks in poor shape which does need a major rehaul and it is happening. it just takes time.
lol I remember commuting to work by a car for like 3months and that was the worst fucking time I've had, I preferred to take a bus and im saying that as a diehard car enthusiast
The differants is that driving is fun.
Commutering is just pain
6:03 I earned that Za. Pizzaaaaa. 6:14 there you are. Lol
I just want to be able to bike or take the train to visit my family in slightly rural areas like I could do in the Netherlands or Germany. I don't mind driving but if I can hangout with my kids on a 45 minute train ride vs essentially ignoring them on an hour drive I will take the train.
If the skytrain + bus option can get me to work within 45 min (same as me driving at moring rush hour), I will not drive.
i like this guy.
Do they ever have traffic congestion in Canada? All I see is (almost) empty and very wide roads. I wish the roads on my route were as easy as your worst-case example on 5:08, but no, not even on Sunday morning.
I personally enjoy driving at rush hour. That being said I wish the Hillsborough Area Regional Transit city bus service in Tampa connects with my local Citrus Connection transit service in Polk County since usingtransit is cheaper than paying for gas however I would commute by car to Tampa on some days when I feel like it. If Tampa and Lakeland had a transit connection it would take at least 15% of cars off Interstate 4 (technically drivers from Lakeland and Plant City should be using U.S. Highway 92 since Interstate 4 is specifically designed to connect traffic from central Florida to Interstates 75 and 95 out of the State of Florida hence the name Interstate).
Great video! I love cars and driving but commuting by car is completely different and I do not care for it.
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful!
there has been saying "A commuter is a car guys best friend"
Seen you on threads, just stumbled into you here. Subbed 😎👍
You last sentance is exactly what has happened in The Netherlands. While car commuting over here is still massive, virtually nobody would dare to mock bike commuters, since they would piss off up to half of their circle of friends. Therefore this is a huge no no in The Netherlands. The key element is the (absence of) bike infrastructure. Without it bike commuting is simply impossible, indesirable or unsafe
subbed when you're at 113 subs; came from youtube recommended!
it's all thanks to videos by Not Just Bikes that watched so many of 'em that i got so many channels supporting public transit like yours!
Thank you!
Current city designs seems outdated. Would love to see urban planners with these novel ideas in action for city redesign, especially the ones that discourage one person car commute to nearby grocery stores.
I love driving when it's to get somewhere close or is through a beautiful area... but otherwise, I just prefer walking. If only we had good transit, I would never drive.
A FELLOW BASED CANADIAN!!!
For some classes of jobs, the commute lasts all day. Delivery drivers and those who drive to homes or businesses with a truck or van full of tools will forever be stuck dealing with traffic.
yeah we need to do more to shame traffic creators
The bus system needs to be policed if you want the middle class to start using it.
I'd love if public transport was better. There's a bus that runs by my community but it's so early. And if I miss it then I have to drive or call an Uber. I'm a car guy but I'd rather not drive to work
This is another issue with commuter-based transit as well! Not everyone works 9-to-5!
any driving that takes place in a city is not really driving. i love driving, i hate doing it in cities.
thankfully i dont commute daily. my office is right next door to my house.
I like the idea of some low level self driving. It seems to me if we have to be stuck in bumper to bumper traffic (where the old man in a walker is faster than the cars), it would be far better to let the computer handle that and let us read or work. The stress of driving under those conditions is awful. But when the road opens up, I want to drive! That said, having a system that can keep me from getting killed if I sneeze at 85MPH (or just miss something) is desirable. It doesn't have to be perfect, just better than doing without. Perhaps we can bridge from where we are to the future we need with some somewhat automated cars. Just imagine a car that you can leave as the door at work and it will get parked somehow, at least mostly without human intervention. Even if you have to walk somewhere to get it back later on it would still be a win vs the parking hellscape most of us deal with daily.
Terrible idea. Nobody would be able to car the road if a car comes by as frequent as possible.
are you going to montreal for the new rem 😊
I have had to still do travel by car for long distances and I hate it. It is not enjoyable in anyway. I'd much rather take a long distance train but they are so expensive that it is more affordable to go by car. This is also in a time I can decide when to leave. It is not fun to drive a long way and drive back tired. Driving is better with short distances when there are no others on the road.
My commute by car isn't like that at all. I can choose my hours, so I can avoid bad traffic times here in Atlanta, and my drive is only 8 miles, so it isn't a long distance. It also doesn't use main roads, so traffic jams are not a factor.
You are definitely in a very small minority. Even then, you'd probably benefit from improved transit and cycling options, because even if you continue to choose to drive, today's back roads are tomorrow's shortcut to avoid traffic. I saw it happen on the street by my house, in no way a main road, but people figured out they could use it to get around a bottleneck where there are several major intersections close together, so every day, traffic now backs up on our little back road with everyone going around that bottleneck, ironically creating a new additional bottleneck.
This is definitely a case of "I like my lifestyle/situation but it isn't the norm". More people than not have miserable traffic commutes and and can't just choose their hours like that.
3:44 got 'em
I love my cars, we have 11 of them, but i love public transport too, and wish the uk had better public transit. My city of 100,000 people has 2 train stations right next to eachover and the buses are terrible.
Uk is similar size island country to Japan. Japan has great public transportation and electric trains while uk trains and public transport is terrible.
Carnada lol
Interesting
what about commuting by motorcycle instead of car?
Same concept except they don't take up as much space as cars I assume!
Still bad, a lot of South and southeast Asian people did that
5:26
I don't understand what you're getting at when you say that riding a bike for leisure and riding to work are two different concepts "just like" driving for leisure and driving to work are.
If you like cycling then you have fun no matter what your destination is, the same can't be said for commuting by car.
Speak for yourself. I've seen a couple other people here, as well as myself, that enjoy commuting by car. However, the difference is location. People like us that even enjoy commuting by car typically live in more rural areas or smaller cities, and/or commute during off hours, as well as having a deep enough love for driving.
There's also going to be people with custom sound systems in their car, not necessarily big loud ones but really well tuned ones with lots of soundproofing in the doors, and these people usually like commuting in their own cars even in traffic.
"I'm not driving, I'm commuting by car." Coming soon to a 'sovereign citizen' video near you.
Buses are typically filled with smelly people that don't shower lol that's why I highly prefer cars.
This video is about "driving" and "commuting by car" anyways so you technically ended up on the right video for it.
😢 The transport infrastructure disaster. 😢🆘🆘🆘🆘🆘🆘🆘🆘🆘🆘🆘🐝. Archimedes XXI century 😇.
Carnada 😂
The highlight of the video for sure 😂
Not just trams
Hahahaa
damn, you're from stoon?!?!
Very well put and very well made. Good info. Im definitely a driver... Car commuters are such tools... Lol.... No concept on how a car functions or what it looks like. Makes just enough to pay for the fuel and rent.... Pathetic. it really is.. we need to stop having such a culture of tools which is whst you are slowly seeing.. office culture is finally dying.. 9-5 is dying.. people are doing there own thing.. gigging.. finally
Bro's trying to be not just bikes
The more people talking about this, the better.
I’m getting sick of hearing about “mental health” being a get-out for everything.
Well that sounds like you need someone checking up on your mental health