The government doesn't care, they constantly close off areas we could park. Abandoned scale houses, rest areas. They put no overnight parking at rest areas.
And then police act in a predatory manner and cite drivers not in legit spots in rest areas. And then you have states like Massachusetts that lock the door to the rest room in the rest areas from dusk to dawn. I NEVER received a parking ticket for parking on a ramp shoulder or a rest area shoulder until after the eld mandate took effect. Absolutely predatory.
End the ELD an allow us to rest when tired, not being told WHEN to park. The ATA is a joke and nothing more than a puppet to Mega Carriers. Kick the ATA , brokers, and Gov't intervention to the curb and just let us do our job.
I operated a heavy Haul buisness for a few years, the worst part was finding spots to park. I would find myself in impossible routs with absoluty no where to pull over and park, a few occasions I incurred fines by the police for continuing past curfew. Sending large trucks for extremely long distances with no parking left ne with no choice but to continue driving. I quite trucking because of tgis and the government. Its a horrible situation for trucks
This is just wild to me. Most cities/villages/towns have a minimum parking space requirement to stipulate the number of spots based on a buildings square footage and zoning type. I’ve been seeing this truck parking crisis in the news and I’m glad to see it’s gaining more attention.
Instead of doling out all of that government money of which 2/3s will disappear between the grant and the project how about the government mandate the states provide adequate parking along the interstates as part of their requirements to receive federal highway money. Allow states to provide incentives to private businesses to build and maintain truck parking. In many localities the local city, county or state government will tax the parking lot owner for processing storm water runoff; that money is collected by an assessment per square foot of impervious surface and unfortunately some municipalities have used storm water fees as a cash cow. If states refuse to build parking calculate how much parking is needed and allow the federal government to establish tax free zones where public truck parking land is exempt from storm water and property taxes. This would give state and local governments to plan for parking and either provide it on the tax funds or forego the tax revenue on those locations that are providing parking with private funds.
when I was driving there were a lot of days, I drove all day and when I needed to stop everything was full, so I would drive all night, then the sun would come up, and I couldn't sleep so I kept driving until early evening and then it was hope to find a parking spot to sleep or keep going, the longest stretch I went was 5 days and 4 nights with no sleep the only thing keeping me awake was mountain dew, and when I got to sleep I slept for 8 hours, got up and drove some more, with Elogs you can't do things like that anymore, but you don't make the money neither
I deliver new school buses out of Tulsa, OK. I'm not full time and I only pick close deliveries (a couple of states). I travel I-44 quite a bit. It is heavy with truckers. I wouldn't want to do this full time. 2 U.S. Rep's are from Missouri. 1. Sam Graves is the chair of Transportation and the 2nd is my U.S. Rep Eric Burlison. I've been talking to Eric (he lives in the same County as I do) about rules and regulations with DOT. I hope others reach out to Eric as he's a great elected official to work with!
Free parking almost everywhere vs paid parking to gain back investments. How does that make sense? According to the free market, if someone sees opportunity, they will take it. Truck stops have tons of parking and are private but why is there a parking shortage?
Stop with the lies about a national trucker shortage. The only "shortage" is a lack of drivers willing to haul dirt cheap freight! There's too many drivers chasing too few loads which has the freight rates low. Many drivers are parked for days trying to find a load that pays for more than just the fuel. Loads are scheduled without thinking about the logistics of the driver's need for legal rest periods. We don't need fancy (expensive) facilities for every rest period - just knowing that we can run our clocks out and park on a wide spot along a road will suffice in most situations.
OK, I'll say it. We have the ONLY plan that will address this problem aggressively and fix it from within, without Chapstick and ass kissing. All of these so-called trucking publications, advocacy and agencies need to draw a line in the sand. Are you trucking or are you BROKERING. So many of these "Trucking" industry experts have bent the knee to brokers because they can't imagine what we are going to do. I hope that they will all ralley behind us simply because we have trucking, carriers and drivers at the core of our creation. No room for brokers.
It's the DOT's responsibility! Only the gov't can build rest stops along the highway. That's what the fuel tax is for! Yes a "private" company can build fuel stops but then they can charge for a spot to stop at!
They don't want WHEEL MONKEYS , on their property, because of all the piss jugs & garbage you idiots throw out. I wouldn't let you stay either, and YOU ONLY HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAME
What is unclear to me is: if this is such a large problem, private enterprise would build the spaces and charge for the use of them. So, it seems me that what the trucking industry wants is FREE spaces built by the taxpayer to further subsidize the industry. Well, that’s fine, I guess. But let’s have an honest and frank discussion about that.
The problem with private owners building more spots is that the value of the land is too high. So the taxing authorities make it difficult to do that. Also people don't want trucks in their backyard.
@@chuckshaffer1940 the “problem” of the land value being too high isn’t the “problem”. Rather, it exemplifies my point. In order to make valuable land pay when it’s turned into truck parking, the costs for parking will need to be “high.” The trucking industry doesn’t want to have to front those costs. Soooooo, they want the taxpayer to buy that expensive land, turn it into truck parking, and let the industry use it for free. Brilliant. Internalize the profits and externalize the costs. Brilliant if you can do it.
@Dave-my1we , I know of several truckstops that have been lost because of land values. There used to be a stop in Federalway WA that is a strip mall now. The reason is what I pointed out.
@@chuckshaffer1940 you are again proving my point. If, say, truckers were willing to pay $1000 per night to park (a ridiculous example, I know, but it amplifies the point), the owners of that land would NOT have converted to a strip mall. If truckers were willing to pay more….. it would still be a truck stop. What the trucking industry wants is for the TAXPAYER to buy “expensive land” and let truckers park for free. If they can get away with that, great for them.
@@rogerwilco2 I guess you do not recall the trucking industry in 2020. The mandate was lifted and everyone did just fine, just as they did prior to the mandated rules. There is a balance between dystopian control and freedom of anarchy. Those of us who do not require government intervention choose more toward freedom. Those who require the mother hand of government lean more comfortably toward control of their lives.
I am not a truck driver but respect truck drivers and traverse the state. Never enough pull off area and local communities highway adjacent do everything they can to keep them out. Truckers feed us and provide everything to us, the least we could do is be a good neighbor is give them areas to park, rest or sleep.
The government should crack down on the shippers and receivers release huge parking lots are half empty force them to have OTR parking on their property or charge them a fee for not having OTR parking on their property. Same thing with the lumper fee they need to get rid of that damn thing to the company should be paying for their shit to get put on the truck or off the truck.
I think there is a shortage of rest areas in general. I think there are fewer rest areas on Georgia Interstates now than there were 20 years ago, and the ones that remain are far too far apart. On I-95, for instance, there is a northbound rest area/welcome center upon entering from Florida. And there are NO further rest areas on northbound I-95 in Georgia! The next one is the South Carolina rest area/welcome center, about 110 miles north! That is crazy and unacceptable, for cars AND trucks! The federal DOT should mandate a reasonable maximum spacing of rest areas, with an acceptable level of truck parking, on ALL rural Interstates nationwide.
I'm done with trucking. Low pay gone all the time dealing with shifty customers that treat drivers like crap same with trucking companies. Then the rules and regulations getting harassed by law enforcement. No or lousy benefits if any at all. No paid vacations or paid holidays. No time and half pay for working over 40 hours. Not worth it for giving up everything in your life to live on a truck.
Why are there so many more trucks on the road? Might the real problem be that there are not enough alternative forms of transport or other logistics issues? The USA seems to messed up when it concerns the safety and heath of people, and sane infrastructure choices.
people are already sick and tired of the arrogant truck driver trope. don't make it worse. most trucks on the road are transporting junk anyway. logistics needs to be made more efficient, not given a blank check to do whatever they want in a runaway trash economy
It got worse when the ELD was mandator if you don't stop for the day before sun down you might not find any truck parking I been driving 26 years I never seen truck parking this bad this is why I only drive the south east states home weekends when I find a good local driving job where I live in Phenix City,AL I'm going for it will need to pay almost the pay I'm making now and I be home every night
We can't build rail roads it would consume waste swaths of land to rails. Think about all the truckers who will loose their jobs if we swap to nationalized rail. only problem is we need to dedicate waste swaths of land to trucker parking. That makes total sense
add EV parking charging needing 3 spots for every diesel unit , due to fire risk, and the fact it takes 4+ hours to charge 250 mile range compared to 15 minuets fuelling 800 +mile range , requiring EV a parking spot to charge, instead of drive through fuelling , imagine the line ups and dead trucks that are feet away but too drained to reach the charger and this is just fuelling \charging now get into mandatory rest periods cant find a spot now ,add EV, this is politics and policy's by people who either hate trucking or have no two clue what it takes to move our economies, economy does not move on a computer screen like wall street would have us believe , it moved by trucks, trains, boats and barges , and insanely more and more by plane
Transport truck trailers via rail. For every “truck train” it’s probably 200 trucks off the road reducing traffic, frustration and the “need” for the federal government to spend tax dollars to fix a private industry problem… Railroads built this country, trucks are ruining it for everyone.
youl get killed parked along the side of the road......because the drivers of small vehicles keep staring at the big thing park along side the road.....and keep staring at it right until they see the big thing is a transport truck then they end up underneath the rear end of the trailer,,,,then the other car follows straight in also,,,,,
@didierpuzenat7280 Are you going to drive to the nearest train depot to pick up whatever is shipped by train to your local area??? Those trains aren’t coming to you!!!
Smaller trucks! Make the most of the space you have - phase out 53' trailers and bring back cabovers. Make the trailers more space-efficient by destandardizing loading dock heights so trailer manufacturers can compete on floor lowness the way the makers of urban transit buses do, and truck manufacturers can compete on making the tongue height lower.
The government doesn't care, they constantly close off areas we could park. Abandoned scale houses, rest areas. They put no overnight parking at rest areas.
And then police act in a predatory manner and cite drivers not in legit spots in rest areas. And then you have states like Massachusetts that lock the door to the rest room in the rest areas from dusk to dawn. I NEVER received a parking ticket for parking on a ramp shoulder or a rest area shoulder until after the eld mandate took effect. Absolutely predatory.
Well the revenuers will collect the cash anyway they can. Pigs are not hired to help you.
End the ELD an allow us to rest when tired, not being told WHEN to park. The ATA is a joke and nothing more than a puppet to Mega Carriers. Kick the ATA , brokers, and Gov't intervention to the curb and just let us do our job.
Well said brother
The money being proposed is nowhere near the amount that is needed, it’s not even a Band-Aid.
Maybe if the truckers were attacked by Russia, O'Biden would send billions and billions!
I operated a heavy Haul buisness for a few years, the worst part was finding spots to park. I would find myself in impossible routs with absoluty no where to pull over and park, a few occasions I incurred fines by the police for continuing past curfew.
Sending large trucks for extremely long distances with no parking left ne with no choice but to continue driving.
I quite trucking because of tgis and the government. Its a horrible situation for trucks
This is just wild to me. Most cities/villages/towns have a minimum parking space requirement to stipulate the number of spots based on a buildings square footage and zoning type. I’ve been seeing this truck parking crisis in the news and I’m glad to see it’s gaining more attention.
Minimum parking requirements are for cars and car-sized spaces.
Also. Some of these truck stops are in cities in un desirable areas the drivers don't feel comfortable parking in
Instead of doling out all of that government money of which 2/3s will disappear between the grant and the project how about the government mandate the states provide adequate parking along the interstates as part of their requirements to receive federal highway money. Allow states to provide incentives to private businesses to build and maintain truck parking. In many localities the local city, county or state government will tax the parking lot owner for processing storm water runoff; that money is collected by an assessment per square foot of impervious surface and unfortunately some municipalities have used storm water fees as a cash cow. If states refuse to build parking calculate how much parking is needed and allow the federal government to establish tax free zones where public truck parking land is exempt from storm water and property taxes. This would give state and local governments to plan for parking and either provide it on the tax funds or forego the tax revenue on those locations that are providing parking with private funds.
when I was driving there were a lot of days, I drove all day and when I needed to stop everything was full, so I would drive all night, then the sun would come up, and I couldn't sleep so I kept driving until early evening and then it was hope to find a parking spot to sleep or keep going, the longest stretch I went was 5 days and 4 nights with no sleep the only thing keeping me awake was mountain dew, and when I got to sleep I slept for 8 hours, got up and drove some more, with Elogs you can't do things like that anymore, but you don't make the money neither
I deliver new school buses out of Tulsa, OK. I'm not full time and I only pick close deliveries (a couple of states). I travel I-44 quite a bit. It is heavy with truckers. I wouldn't want to do this full time. 2 U.S. Rep's are from Missouri. 1. Sam Graves is the chair of Transportation and the 2nd is my U.S. Rep Eric Burlison. I've been talking to Eric (he lives in the same County as I do) about rules and regulations with DOT. I hope others reach out to Eric as he's a great elected official to work with!
Seems like the private sector should take care of this
How hard is it to build a parking lot
Free parking almost everywhere vs paid parking to gain back investments. How does that make sense? According to the free market, if someone sees opportunity, they will take it. Truck stops have tons of parking and are private but why is there a parking shortage?
Exactly!!
The companies hiring the truckers don't want to pay a penny for parking.
dopharr you are right on .
Stop with the lies about a national trucker shortage. The only "shortage" is a lack of drivers willing to haul dirt cheap freight! There's too many drivers chasing too few loads which has the freight rates low. Many drivers are parked for days trying to find a load that pays for more than just the fuel. Loads are scheduled without thinking about the logistics of the driver's need for legal rest periods. We don't need fancy (expensive) facilities for every rest period - just knowing that we can run our clocks out and park on a wide spot along a road will suffice in most situations.
I doubt even $200 million will make much difference, the new spaces will quickly fill up and you'll still have the shortage problem
Where is the 200 million coming from ?
1 billion dollars is nothing
OK, I'll say it. We have the ONLY plan that will address this problem aggressively and fix it from within, without Chapstick and ass kissing. All of these so-called trucking publications, advocacy and agencies need to draw a line in the sand. Are you trucking or are you BROKERING. So many of these "Trucking" industry experts have bent the knee to brokers because they can't imagine what we are going to do. I hope that they will all ralley behind us simply because we have trucking, carriers and drivers at the core of our creation. No room for brokers.
No the government should not pay. That is our money. The shippers and receivers could make extra room to park.
It's the DOT's responsibility! Only the gov't can build rest stops along the highway. That's what the fuel tax is for! Yes a "private" company can build fuel stops but then they can charge for a spot to stop at!
Yep. Let's start citing warehouses that refuse to let people stay overnight when they have more than enough space.
They don't want WHEEL MONKEYS , on their property, because of all the piss jugs & garbage you idiots throw out.
I wouldn't let you stay either, and YOU ONLY HAVE YOURSELF TO BLAME
What is unclear to me is: if this is such a large problem, private enterprise would build the spaces and charge for the use of them. So, it seems me that what the trucking industry wants is FREE spaces built by the taxpayer to further subsidize the industry. Well, that’s fine, I guess. But let’s have an honest and frank discussion about that.
none of that is gonna happen. this is just campaigning material
The problem with private owners building more spots is that the value of the land is too high. So the taxing authorities make it difficult to do that. Also people don't want trucks in their backyard.
@@chuckshaffer1940 the “problem” of the land value being too high isn’t the “problem”. Rather, it exemplifies my point. In order to make valuable land pay when it’s turned into truck parking, the costs for parking will need to be “high.” The trucking industry doesn’t want to have to front those costs. Soooooo, they want the taxpayer to buy that expensive land, turn it into truck parking, and let the industry use it for free. Brilliant. Internalize the profits and externalize the costs. Brilliant if you can do it.
@Dave-my1we , I know of several truckstops that have been lost because of land values. There used to be a stop in Federalway WA that is a strip mall now. The reason is what I pointed out.
@@chuckshaffer1940 you are again proving my point. If, say, truckers were willing to pay $1000 per night to park (a ridiculous example, I know, but it amplifies the point), the owners of that land would NOT have converted to a strip mall. If truckers were willing to pay more….. it would still be a truck stop. What the trucking industry wants is for the TAXPAYER to buy “expensive land” and let truckers park for free. If they can get away with that, great for them.
Or … UNmandate those hours.
Ah, yes caring even less for the health and safety of truckers and the other people on or near the roads.
Classic dystopian answer.
@@rogerwilco2
I guess you do not recall the trucking industry in 2020. The mandate was lifted and everyone did just fine, just as they did prior to the mandated rules.
There is a balance between dystopian control and freedom of anarchy.
Those of us who do not require government intervention choose more toward freedom.
Those who require the mother hand of government lean more comfortably toward control of their lives.
I am not a truck driver but respect truck drivers and traverse the state. Never enough pull off area and local communities highway adjacent do everything they can to keep them out. Truckers feed us and provide everything to us, the least we could do is be a good neighbor is give them areas to park, rest or sleep.
The government should crack down on the shippers and receivers release huge parking lots are half empty force them to have OTR parking on their property or charge them a fee for not having OTR parking on their property. Same thing with the lumper fee they need to get rid of that damn thing to the company should be paying for their shit to get put on the truck or off the truck.
Get politicians out of trucking Put truckers in politics
I think there is a shortage of rest areas in general. I think there are fewer rest areas on Georgia Interstates now than there were 20 years ago, and the ones that remain are far too far apart. On I-95, for instance, there is a northbound rest area/welcome center upon entering from Florida. And there are NO further rest areas on northbound I-95 in Georgia! The next one is the South Carolina rest area/welcome center, about 110 miles north! That is crazy and unacceptable, for cars AND trucks! The federal DOT should mandate a reasonable maximum spacing of rest areas, with an acceptable level of truck parking, on ALL rural Interstates nationwide.
Tell new drivers BEFORE they get their CLASS A
I'm done with trucking. Low pay gone all the time dealing with shifty customers that treat drivers like crap same with trucking companies. Then the rules and regulations getting harassed by law enforcement. No or lousy benefits if any at all. No paid vacations or paid holidays. No time and half pay for working over 40 hours. Not worth it for giving up everything in your life to live on a truck.
Make the truck stops stop charging drivers to park and you won't have a parking problem
Why are there so many more trucks on the road?
Might the real problem be that there are not enough alternative forms of transport or other logistics issues?
The USA seems to messed up when it concerns the safety and heath of people, and sane infrastructure choices.
Just stop for one week to protest..trucking is over regulated and WAY underpaid... make the world see how important we are...
people are already sick and tired of the arrogant truck driver trope. don't make it worse. most trucks on the road are transporting junk anyway. logistics needs to be made more efficient, not given a blank check to do whatever they want in a runaway trash economy
It got worse when the ELD was mandator if you don't stop for the day before sun down you might not find any truck parking I been driving 26 years I never seen truck parking this bad this is why I only drive the south east states home weekends when I find a good local driving job where I live in Phenix City,AL I'm going for it will need to pay almost the pay I'm making now and I be home every night
We can't build rail roads it would consume waste swaths of land to rails. Think about all the truckers who will loose their jobs if we swap to nationalized rail. only problem is we need to dedicate waste swaths of land to trucker parking. That makes total sense
One of many reasons why I quit driving plus shit pay to work 14 hours a day 7 days a week
No, we have a "stuff" buying problem...
Wow pickel park pete has spent money and gained 3 parking spoots WOW GET RID OF THE ATA ,DEI AND GET THIS DONE
Parking and safety for free....kinda simple......apparently not!!
Is still unresolved sonce the 1980s
add EV parking charging needing 3 spots for every diesel unit , due to fire risk, and the fact it takes 4+ hours to charge 250 mile range compared to 15 minuets fuelling 800 +mile range , requiring EV a parking spot to charge, instead of drive through fuelling , imagine the line ups and dead trucks that are feet away but too drained to reach the charger and this is just fuelling \charging now get into mandatory rest periods cant find a spot now ,add EV, this is politics and policy's by people who either hate trucking or have no two clue what it takes to move our economies, economy does not move on a computer screen like wall street would have us believe , it moved by trucks, trains, boats and barges , and insanely more and more by plane
Transport truck trailers via rail. For every “truck train” it’s probably 200 trucks off the road reducing traffic, frustration and the “need” for the federal government to spend tax dollars to fix a private industry problem…
Railroads built this country, trucks are ruining it for everyone.
I agree 100% my city is building R/R x dock this will take 500 long haul trucks off the road
youl get killed parked along the side of the road......because the drivers of small vehicles keep staring at the big thing park along side the road.....and keep staring at it right until they see the big thing is a transport truck then they end up underneath the rear end of the trailer,,,,then the other car follows straight in also,,,,,
The solution may be less trucks and more trains, not to mention most of the things people are buying end in a trash quite fast.
@didierpuzenat7280
Are you going to drive to the nearest train depot to pick up whatever is shipped by train to your local area???
Those trains aren’t coming to you!!!
@@AzzKicker-bz1cb Less trucks does not mean no truck.
We need more trains for that reason
Smaller trucks! Make the most of the space you have - phase out 53' trailers and bring back cabovers. Make the trailers more space-efficient by destandardizing loading dock heights so trailer manufacturers can compete on floor lowness the way the makers of urban transit buses do, and truck manufacturers can compete on making the tongue height lower.
Absolutely horrible idea. Smaller trucks means more trucks. Your idea would make things worse and more expensive.
Try living out of a cabover for a month,not me ,I'm never going back to that bs again, give it a try, bucky
What about Bucees?
The local truck stop has now reverted to PAID parking with a maximum time limit.
@@andyevans2336 😟
It's not a parking shortage. It's a lack of trip planning ability on the driver. 19 year trucker here for Crete Carrier