The Rise of Bangtan - Chapter 7: Persona (REACTION)
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Namjoon didn't really tone it down per say. He had a lot of anger piled up inside of him during that time and was also very confused about his identity as an artist. He took those emotions out in music and that's why so many of his songs back in the day are clearly filled with hate. Overtime he became more comfortable with himself and no longer feels like he has to prove anything to anyone. He's creating music that brings comfort.
I really want DT to listen to RM's whole mixtapes in order. It will be helpful to understand how his thought has changed over the years.
Totally Agree! I think Namjoon has really come into his own. I would be cool if RM did make another hardcore Rap song. But I think also think when he did his first mixtape he had a lot of emotions that he needed to get out and a lot of that had to do with the hate he was getting, especially from people he didn't expect it him, people he considered friends. Also, being frustrated about his self-identity and what others thought about him.
Namjoon always amazes me at how he handle thoses first few yrs, and how much it took for him to stay the leader of BTS. But he has also credited his other members for being there to help him and support him as their leader. RM would not be here with out them and vice versa. They are a team and they know how to be one. With all the things the had to overcome I am glad they did give up, because they have helped so many people around the world and have become such a positive influence to many. I am always proud and excited of their many accomplishments.
PS: all the people who were calling Hobi untalented, ugly, and telling him to leave BTS are all haters. I didn't know anything about BTS during that time, but when I hear about it that always hurts. I am glad that his family, the members, and ARMYs were there for him. J-Hope is so talented and so attractive. I have so much love for all the guys.💜
True
I still have war of hormone on my playlist. It's still a good song no matter how the haters try to twist the meaning.
Same... I still listen to war of hormones and their old songs...
War of hormone was the song that got me into this fandom😊🤚🏼
same.
Those people who accused War of Hormones probably never listen to American songs. It’s not even bad compare to those. It was about boys going through puberty and I still don’t find it offensive.
Agreed
It was mostly mistranslation
I agree with you
Exactly. Like "boys being boys" being used as an excuse to tolerate men's disrespect towards women is bad BUT in this case, it totally applies because these are thoughts that run in boys' heads during that age. Girls reach an age where they tend to objectify boys or men too. It's all about knowing limits. Like war of hormones didnt even mention about eating them girls'p**** or wanting to make her scream in pleasure. Or how tasty the girl is. 🤷♀️ or that they gonna hit that, smack that, pound that etc. Juices overflowing and whatnot. Goodness
@@dorkshoujo lol 😆 I couldn't help but laugh the dirtier you got.
RM 1st mixtape 2015 debuted #12 in billboard charts 2015. It's another masterpiece. RM is an amazing person. These achievements won't be happened if RM was not there.
I see you always praise RM and I am so glad he has fans like you. He is so amazing.
@@decalcomaniee sorry for saying about only him. I am joon biased but love all. I say only if there is no comments about him.
@@ami2017angel it’s okay, I am also doing this to my bias. ♡ all bts members deserves every praises.
yeah me too i see you always in the comment praising RM and i really love that he deserves all the love and appreciation..he takes a big part in their music and in everything they do...even if he is not my bias but i really love him with all my heart i can't imagine BTS without him... RM is an exceptional leader, and i do believe that he is irreplaceable. and a true genius. BTS is unique because each member is unique in their own way.
*They toned that Hip hop down because as they grew-- their stories and emotions changed. They reinvented themselves because their stories cahnged. It would be weird if Rm released a self-victimising mocking the haters track since their position has changed. He has started to find joy in the smallest things of life and he portrays that in his music. You want aggressive music, there was D2 By AGUSTD which was an emotional rollercoaster. Namjoon is a bonsai nurturing bike riding peaceful 27 year old now. Him changing has his music cahnging-- thats why people love bts. As they grew up, so did their themes to their songs*
@Rula hasan that is what you call being an 'artist'-- ya know?
I seriously fucking hate people keep asking them to go back to aggressive "hiphop roots". Like ugh wasn't just a year ago??? And D-2?? And I agree they can't keep writing that shit anymore, they've grown up and pretty much released all that pent up anger and frustration. They've matured and so will their approach to music, it's not them against the world anymore.
@@p3arl38 I like their hip-hop style from back then they should make aleast a few more songs and haters songs
i think, as they grow matured, their songs probably would be more to social matters, especially how they felt about issues like racism and xenophobia.....but, it would be a serious concepts that need careful preparation.....
9:11 when that whole awful thing happened with jhope, jimin posted several pictures of him writing jhope’s name with his body to cheer him up. I love how the boys have always been there for eachother since the beginning ❤️
I’m convinced they are the most caring humans on our planet!
Bang PD is indeed a great mentor. He treats the boys really well, he is honest with them and cares for them sincerely. He looks at them as humans and real artists. I love him for seeing the potential of the boys. He is one of a kind, no wonder Big Hit grew so much.
i don't think joon toned it down, he just grew up. that's what i love about bts, they grow up and their music always reflects that. if he was still making the same music that he was making a decade ago, it wouldn't feel genuine considering how much he has gone through in that time.
Rm is very special and different ,I respect him very much and love him
Exactly! I want “rap monster” namjoon to make a comeback😭but then again as he said, “people change”
Those comments about Jhope...,,wow it’s amazing the level of ignorance and stupidity that some people have and to top it off they are posting it to the world as if it’s something to be proud of.This the most amazing group of young, insanely talented men and each is a VITAL important part that make them the #1 group in the world!💜
Yessss! I can’t believe ppl were saying that about Jhope! Wtf is wrong with ppl! No wonder S. Korea has the most suicide rates 😢..
Those ppl were stupid & blind Jhope is very talented & hot! He was never ugly
Big salute to Warren G for giving that home place to RM BTS IN THEIR initial days.
The way I see BTS, every member is flat irreplaceable. I am utterly stunned with the hate poured on various members. Sadness and disgust! Real respect to Bang Shi Hyuk and RM for the leadership that allows each member survival.
Who's ever predicted these young boys will soar high?Now, its literally "Sky is the Limit" !Nothin's gonna stop them now!
I think other Artists need to thank "RM" because he chooses to be with BTS If he is soloist He will Kill Haters with his Pen.
J-Hope has a unique handsomeness. I don't care about the facial look, he's very talented and cheerful guy. To the one that says J-Hope is ugly, did you ever check your face in the mirror? I think.whoevet said this, haters you are the ugliest creature in this world. Look at yourself in the mirror first before you open your big wide mouth. No one is ugly in BTS. The boys are very talented in the whole K-POP Group. God bless BTS!!!!!
Bts started as a hip hop artists.. But they are not entitled to return back to their roots. Because they all have grown as artists.. when they feel comfortable they will put out tracks like ugh and cypher. These songs comes up according what they feels at the moment.. and disease is definitely a hip-hop funk based song.. and their old music still exists..
War of the hormones gets mentioned and that's what it counts, people have BTS in their lips and minds either plus or minus, their concept is quality above everything else. Every single song as group or solo will get people talking the more haters make the fans grow stronger and multiply because we get inspired from this group, and the song I'm a born singer is a statement to their vulnerability and we don't have other choice but to like them, even fall for them as a group, we think we like one or two of the boys but they are one body and they are proving that truly "we are bulletproof" it's their anthem.
This is Namjoon's era.💜
I'm like,whaaatttt,,our sunshine is perfect,,I'm speechless right now,,I'm so angry
Jhope is extremely talented. Not just as an entertainer and dancer, but as a producer songwriter and rapper too. I am still waiting for you to react to the entire Hope World mixtape.
"War of Hormone is so naughty" wait till you see Converse High 😂
In 2015, when I was not a bts fan nor did I knew the existence of K-pop .. I heard about a rapper called Rap Monster.... I realized it just now after watching this chapter
RM is such an inspiration and mad respect to him always. Also watching this with you makes the feeling that much more special like the shared feeling. 💜
If anyone hate any member of BTS they are not worthy to sya what talent is
Bang PD is such a good guide to BTS..
In the beginning years of BTS when they wrote lyrics and brought it to him (Bang PD) to be checked, he immediately gave them a hard pass and told them to rewrite it. It's because the lyrics were on the topic of stuff like "I have a car, my girl is blah blah" [i mean this is the type of hip hop songs they grew up with and they were influenced by] so he questioned them "do you even have a car? are you rich? write lyrics that YOU can write."
😂😂 Yes each group has their light style, it said on the box as soon as you asked.
Hobey you are with the best in your group which makes you the best too. You all have come so far. Continue to wow the world and bring us joy. My 2yr old grandson simply adores his hyungs.
I was waiting and waiting for you to upload rise of bangtan!! Finally!! Thank you. I can't wait to see your reactions to the future episodes. It's a great series.
I agree Butter has a lot of subtle, not so obvious “ let me show you what I can do “ lines in it. I hadn’t thought about the parallel to “Hormone” but you’re right. Men not boys now !
Love your insights and that you love them for their talent and character.
You can not please everybody! No matter who you are, how you look, or how talented you are. People have something to say bad and negative about you .BTS OT7 BORAHAE
They have been talking a lot about rock, so I'm hoping for a rock album soon. Something hard hitting. Rapline songs are always my favorite since that is more my style. We have already gotten the funky, poppy, colorful title tracks for a while now
I have a feeling that if BTS ever release another hip-hop heavy based album/song, it'd be smt like UGH! Not in the sound, per se, but in the maturity.
However, I don't think they'll ever be able to go back to those sounds from their earlier days, bc that music was layered with the type of desperation that ppl of their age, or time in their lives, experience: as youths entering and figuring out the first steps of their adulthoods.
I really love how their music changes as the grow in experiences. Though, this does mean we really aren't ever sure what to expect from them (which is another aspect I enjoy about their music).
And I also like their more hip-hop heavy sounds too. One, bc it's one of my preferred musical genres AND two, bc as we're able to see their changes reflected in their music, seeing where they're at and how that differs from where they were, with this style of music, is just fascinating.
First addicted to BTS songs is war of hormone
Its just a reaction but i still cry over born singer
Its not easy for RM. unlike in many other countries, in Korea if youre just a year ilder, you have to pay high respect to that person. Having Jin and Suga older than him makes its harder but good thing those two don’t use their power and respect him as a leader. Truly RM you have proven you are so much more and we’re right behind you in case someone insult you and the boys again. Thank you for staying strong
What the heck
War of hormones is one of my fav song of bts i still have this trac in my play list. Love bts 💜 in all ways
Finally we've all been waiting💜
I love this song so much... War Of Harmone is bikin saya ajep ajep
I personally think that War Of Hormone was more about them, getting affected by girls and all that raw, impulsive teenage sexual energy. In Butter, it was more about them, affecting girls, if you know what I mean. I definitely agree with the "mature" version. They are being, smoother, sexier and more laid-back with a subtle touch. Both songs are so amazing, to be honest. I still don't get what they got so much hate for War Of Hormone, they were being true to themselves and writing about what a normal teenage boy would feel. No crossing lines.
very well said
There is a rumors that they have a comeback album this July ,.
So yeah!! We hope to see them again with their fire hiphop songs.. That's gonna be so interesting. Lets manifest for that.
_Sexy Brain Men_ (aka _Problematic Men)_ is actually my first introduction to Namjoon, which in turn led me to finding BTS. So, if it wasn't for RM, I'd probably never have become an ARMY, which is one of many reasons I'm so thankful for him. 💜
It makes me sad that BH apologized for War of the Hormones; I think it is fun (and hilarious) 😥
Butter just slays me 💀
When I heard "Born Singer" it's the end for me. I really love this song, the lyrics truly defined who they are right now. I'm so glad that you reacted to this documentary and most of bts' old videos that show how much they struggled and worked hard. I'm so thankful!
YAY..My day was been stressful I needed this thank you!
Same here sweetie
Thank you DT for continuing the reaction for this series. I was waiting for this...I 💜 U..... I 💜 BTS
I agree with your opinion about the parallels between the 2 songs. Butter is definitely a more mature classy version and in a way like you said more mature.💛💛💛💛💛💛💛
DT, you said exactly what I feel all this time. I wnted them to go back to their hip hop roots too. I really miss it, its probably just my personal opinion, but I think they are the best in tht genre.
I cried at Born singer part😭💜
Who the hell of those people who clicked Dislike?????? Darn!!!! Get a life those people!!!!!
Greetings. Yup I got the subtle sexy vibe fm Butter tho I hadn't watched War of Hormones.
Thank you DT for continuing the reaction for this series. Love u so much
DT, eery time I listen to "'BORN SINGER" and read the lyrics, I get "the feels" It just touches my heart knowing how far they have come from their debut days to now '21. Thank you for this.💜
Please I love them so much I can't imagine my life without them 😭😭🥺🥺💕💕💕💕
omg yay another episode thank you i enjoy these a lot
yes...every group and soloist has a lightstick... they say BigBang created the first lightstick to set them apart from the other groups.
Finallyyyy!! Thank u
Ready!!!
OMG im so happy you posted this today!!!! im so happy now!!
Thank you DT, you're the best!👍🏻
We do really need an RM appreciation day
can't wait chapter 8 💜💜💜👌
thank you 💖💜
Yes please,RM appreciation day
DT I love your reactions so much they are so genuine . So plz react to BTS interview with Sakshama shriwastaw .This is a huge deal for Indian army.
Love from India 💜💜
I agree with you DT. There are some parallels between the two songs
yeah... all idol groups have their own lightsticks.
Rrrrrap monsta 💜💜💜💜💜
Yooyoyoyooow! 😆 yes thank you 💜
I'll always support the BTS boys💜
Yup every idol group has dr own Light stick.. N I think d idea of using light stick was given by G Dragon of Big Bang...
you really need to watch some vids on these 2 together .they have the most brother love relation. YOU NEED TO YOU WONT REGET.
All looks so cute but Jimin is like a cute baby 🐥❤️
Regarding WOH, I can see why people, especially women, were aggravated by it. For some women it wouldn’t bother them but definitely for others it would make them feel objectified and lesser due to the tone of the song and how it makes it seem that the men wouldn’t look past anything but their bodies. It’s humiliating. What I’m happy about is how Bangtan acted after that, how they perceived that that emotion can be felt by some women who did feel that way due to their song, and they pursued in trying to fix the tone of their music, not just for themselves, but in order to help bring as many people up as they can through their music, not down. It’s so moving and beautiful and I am so glad to be able to have learned from them what true growth means. I’m glad they made that mistake in their music because it is a part of what make them such admirable people today, not due to the mistake itself but how they responded to it in years to come.
Yes those are cruel things to say but thanks he stay and proved them wrong.
'Till today I still don't quite understand the thing with WOH...I do understand and respect the culture and mindset of the korean pg but I do feel BTS bear with a lot of hate back then not just for the controversy with WOH but many other things until today sadly, Namjoon is one of the wiser persons I've ever meet, still don't know how he was able to handle all that pressure by himself because even when the rest of the team support him he is the leader and have to just endure all this pressure...he is just and admirable human being, also DT have in mind now they are global superstars, you are right...he may tone it down a little but now he is much more mature and is showing his poetic and introspective side, personally I think this is the real him you know but any shape of form he and the guys decided to show in future projects and so on I am here for it... If they go back to their more rude, raw style the fandom and the entire world will just fell apart lol, tks DT for the reaction :)
React (BTS Festa 2021) full episode eng 😍💜
Also, react (BTS Indian Interview) 2021..😍💜
Namjoon was just 19 in 2014
Chills🔥
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Plsss react to the full mixtape of Suga, Agust D D-2, released in March of 2020, after map of the soul7, is so good 💜
I feel the same way too. I miss their banger song. Wonder how these guys has grown with their hiphop now..
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Yes love War Of Harmone song! Oh Pls, American songs lyrics were worse lmao!
React to Rm Bicycle its a masterpiece and you’ll enjoy it
I never took war of Hormone to be seriously picking at women… I thought it was more appreciative and surrounds the era of what boys think about women with their hormones progressing and growing ska puberty… I never took the meaning to be degrading or sexist like some have in the past…. Bts has never done anything to degrade their fan base which is mostly women populated men populated too but mostly women…. They’ve always strived to appreciate all of their fans through their music so to me war of hormone is more poking fun at the way women are perceived by society and by men in general! It’s one of my fav older songs and is still on my playlist for bts songs and constantly played and enjoyed when it comes on!
Butter and WOH? Hm... not really. Cause the lyrics are about "Look at me. I'm so cool. You all fall for me"?. WOH was more "I look at you. Your're so cool. I'll fall for you."
Jungkook is part of the Rapline as sub rapper. I hope jk would do a solo rap song calling jk pls😭😭😭
And Jhope is also a sub vocalist
reaction for BUTTER DANCE PRACTICE
"You've gotta be careful these days" ... nah, I don't like that. War of Hormone is one of my favorite songs, cuz if you read the lyrics properly, you can see the message and intent. Its literally about hormonal Teena ge boys. It's meant to sound all bark, no bite. "Us boys just do em"...you can't translate Korwan to English and then attack based on an English translation. It doesn't have the same connotation. War of Hormone lyrics are honest and fun and I don't think they're objevtifying women, even though that was the argument. If you actually listen to the song, it's more than clear
That doesn't give anyone and everyone a free pass to objectify women and laugh about it. There is a problem of women being sexualized for existing in current media, and like, it isn't really funny. It's the "women fear violence, men fear ridicule" adage. So no, it's not about, "you have to be careful these days, boys"...female fans of bts are grateful that bts display sincere respect for women in their every action. It's not about "censoring yourself" for "today"
No offense but I think DT didn't mean what you thought. He said he still likes war of hormone, but in the video, we surely saw there were a lot of arguments for this song. And I remember once RM said that he is always asking supervision for his lyrics which he learned from the past. Whatever they do, everytime it's on news nowadays and the business behind stock & shareholders. that's why DT said "be careful these days". And I agree with him.
Please turn on subtitles! I am your viewer from Russia, I do not know English well))
Hii DTP
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YEAH DT PARKER 🥰 AWWWW IT GOOD OF YOU TO GO THROUGH THAT AND HOW IT STARTED FROM HITMAN BANG PD AND RM AT THE TABLE OVER LUNCH OPEN UP ABOUT WHAT RM GOING THROUGH ALL THESE YEARS TODAY AND THIS IS ALWAYS THEIR PERSONALITY CONFRONTING US WITH WHAT THEIR MUSIC HE LOVES AND LISTEN BEFORE HE GIVE THAT TO US GLOBAL ARMY 😁 MUSIC AND EVERYTHING LIKE WHAT TODAY ECONOMIC INFLUENCE BTS MARKETINGS THAT HELP OUT THE WORLD IN NEEDS TOGETHER WITH THEIR LOVE OF THEIR GLOBAL ARMY WOOOOOOW AMAZING TO SEE THIS MEMORIES OF THIS VEDIO CLIP TO YOUR REACTIONS PROUD OF THEM AND YOU TOO DT PARKER STAY GOLD STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY MATE👍
Pls react to chapter 8
For me it's a parallel to pied piper
hai DT Parker .. do you know RM sing OST for Marvel Movie Fantastic 4 ( 2015 )
I'm sooo early 😁😁😁😁
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DT pls react to the recent BTS Indian interview by Saksma
Hello,sir parker,can you react to RM new song bicycle,please?
It's released just a day ago
hey DT pls react to the bts recent Indian interview with sakshma shrinivastav
Can you react to Yoongis confession? It’s a short film
Please