Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you should let people know that now their frost-proof hydrant is at risk of freezing/bursting if they keep their hose attached and full of water. The device you removed allows for the water to drain from the hydrant when you turn off the water even if you have your water hose connected and full of water. For example, when we are done watering with a hose end sprayer we just walk over and turn off the water at the hydrant while those hose is still pressurized. With the vacuum breaker, the hydrant will empty. Without it, there will be water stuck in the hydrant in the wall.
I agree that these little things are painfully frustrating to work with but now you've left the house not up to code and any bacteria left in the moldy old garden hose that's been turned on with a spray nozzle on the end left running for any moment of time will now contaminate the water supply in the house or any cleaning solution or bleach if it's connected to a pressure washer will now potentially go into the household water supply and also it's no longer frost-proof and could burst inside your wall or crawl space or foundation if it's cold outside and below freezing.
They use the locking compound to keep the home-owner from removing the back flow preventer. My Arrowhead unit was assembled with the heat to remove locking compound. Just put your propane torch on it for about 8 -10 seconds and then give it a turn. Of course, move the torch around the fitting while heating. Mine came off with very little effort. Before I thought of the heat I was afraid I was going to break something it was on so tight.
Glad you are getting rid of the vacuum breaker that does not last and it leaks. It seems really bad that those are installed with threadlocker or a set screw that breaks off. The only reason to do that seems to be to make them difficult for a homeowner to remove themself increasing future works for plumbers. Another video about removing the vacuum breaker showed using a torch to heat it up to aid in removal so that might help.
It's wild to me they manufacture something with no knurling or flats to take off.. You have to essentially destroy it to replace it.. and then standard practice is to locktight the threads? That's like super gluing a sock on someone's foot.
The easy way to get the right hose adaptor is to take the old part to the hardware store, tell them what you're doing. They will take the old part and get the correct size off of it and hand you the right hose adapter. Easy, peasy. 💖🌞🌵😷
Well I was going to just pop-on the adapter but found out I have to have one to be up to code in Texas. The good new is I was able to unscrew it without breaking the faucet or having to unscrew the whole thing from the wall . It was red lock-tited on but PB Blaster and a real hot day contributed to the success. Lowes carries just the antisiphon self draining fixture .
I thought your description and pictures were very straight forward and complete. You gave options and work arounds witch left which way the user wanted to fix the problem. I wish everyone was as good with their discriptions.
What is the official designation of the "fine" thread on your bass adapter? I need that "fine" thread female to MHT brass adapter you are using in the video.
Thank you for for sharing. For my hose bib, water is leaking at the relief holes when turning it on. Is it the time to replace the old hose bib (14 years old)? Is there any way to fix it?
Can you supply a part number to get the correct thread patterns? I can’t find this adapter, and have visited Home Depot, Lowe’s and Ace Hardware. No luck so far.
I'm in this situation right now, trying to remove a fouled vacuum breaker. The house is 4 years old and the hose bib sits slightly inside the vinyl siding housing. Stupid of the builder to do this. The other problem I have is that the set screw is underneath the hose bib and it's hard as heck to see what I'm doing. I'm trying hard to avoid calling the plumber as it will be a $300 job. Going to the store to get a dremel to try to cut down to the threads. I'm also ordering a 5mm set screw slotted for an allen key next time around. I understand the needed function, but contractors make them hard to get off!!!
I think that should be a video to see what the scenario would have to be for a hose to actually siphon back into the house. It seems that there would have to be the perfect scenario for that to happen
Well I'll be dipped. I have never heard of this device. So if a hose has a spray nozzle on the end and is in the off position it is good to go and is not a danger. But then again if a hose has the potential to siphon from a bucket that would mean that the faucet would have to be in the on position and if it is on then water is going to be flowing out. Seems to me like the people in code enforcement have too much time on their hands. I mean truthfully is this a real big problem that you know of Brian? Thank you and have a good weekend!
@@ThatFixItGuyIn rare occacions - that is BS. That physically can never happen unless you have a high pressure source at the end of your garden hose pumping water back into your house at greater than 80PSI !!! And to get the chemicals back into the water mains of the city would require pressure greater than 100PSI !!!
This is a great tip! thank you fix it man!
Your welcome. Hope it helps you out!
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you should let people know that now their frost-proof hydrant is at risk of freezing/bursting if they keep their hose attached and full of water. The device you removed allows for the water to drain from the hydrant when you turn off the water even if you have your water hose connected and full of water. For example, when we are done watering with a hose end sprayer we just walk over and turn off the water at the hydrant while those hose is still pressurized. With the vacuum breaker, the hydrant will empty. Without it, there will be water stuck in the hydrant in the wall.
I agree that these little things are painfully frustrating to work with but now you've left the house not up to code and any bacteria left in the moldy old garden hose that's been turned on with a spray nozzle on the end left running for any moment of time will now contaminate the water supply in the house or any cleaning solution or bleach if it's connected to a pressure washer will now potentially go into the household water supply and also it's no longer frost-proof and could burst inside your wall or crawl space or foundation if it's cold outside and below freezing.
They use the locking compound to keep the home-owner from removing the back flow preventer. My Arrowhead unit was assembled with the heat to remove locking compound. Just put your propane torch on it for about 8 -10 seconds and then give it a turn. Of course, move the torch around the fitting while heating. Mine came off with very little effort. Before I thought of the heat I was afraid I was going to break something it was on so tight.
Glad you are getting rid of the vacuum breaker that does not last and it leaks. It seems really bad that those are installed with threadlocker or a set screw that breaks off. The only reason to do that seems to be to make them difficult for a homeowner to remove themself increasing future works for plumbers. Another video about removing the vacuum breaker showed using a torch to heat it up to aid in removal so that might help.
It's wild to me they manufacture something with no knurling or flats to take off.. You have to essentially destroy it to replace it.. and then standard practice is to locktight the threads? That's like super gluing a sock on someone's foot.
The easy way to get the right hose adaptor is to take the old part to the hardware store, tell them what you're doing. They will take the old part and get the correct size off of it and hand you the right hose adapter. Easy, peasy. 💖🌞🌵😷
Well I was going to just pop-on the adapter but found out I have to have one to be up to code in Texas. The good new is I was able to unscrew it without breaking the faucet or having to unscrew the whole thing from the wall . It was red lock-tited on but PB Blaster and a real hot day contributed to the success. Lowes carries just the antisiphon self draining fixture .
Right on. I would have put it on as well. Great job.
You only need it to be up to code if you’re going to sell your house and have to pass inspection
Thats exactly my issue, where did you get the adapter from? Thank you
I thought your description and pictures were very straight forward and complete. You gave options and work arounds witch left which way the user wanted to fix the problem. I wish everyone was as good with their discriptions.
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What is the official designation of the "fine" thread on your bass adapter?
I need that "fine" thread female to MHT brass adapter you are using in the video.
I have this same one on my house and it's leaking. Couldn't get it with channel locks. Installer must've caked on that thread locker.
Thanks for the information Brian. I am like Richard I have never heard of this device.
Yeah Britt they are pretty standard these days on hose bibs. I will try to do a demo at some point. Thank you and I hope you have a great weekend.
Thank you for for sharing. For my hose bib, water is leaking at the relief holes when turning it on. Is it the time to replace the old hose bib (14 years old)? Is there any way to fix it?
Can you supply a part number to get the correct thread patterns? I can’t find this adapter, and have visited Home Depot, Lowe’s and Ace Hardware. No luck so far.
Thanks for the tips Brian! Never heard of this device!
Your welcome. It is pretty common the days for them to be installed by manufacturers.
I'm in this situation right now, trying to remove a fouled vacuum breaker. The house is 4 years old and the hose bib sits slightly inside the vinyl siding housing. Stupid of the builder to do this. The other problem I have is that the set screw is underneath the hose bib and it's hard as heck to see what I'm doing. I'm trying hard to avoid calling the plumber as it will be a $300 job. Going to the store to get a dremel to try to cut down to the threads. I'm also ordering a 5mm set screw slotted for an allen key next time around. I understand the needed function, but contractors make them hard to get off!!!
Very informative, thanks for the info, BTW - excellent presentation..
Thank you. I really appreciate the kind words.
I think that should be a video to see what the scenario would have to be for a hose to actually siphon back into the house. It seems that there would have to be the perfect scenario for that to happen
I'm going to totally try and make one Steve. I agree! would have to be the perfect storm. Thank you and hope you are having a great weekend
Do we have to shut off water to do this?
I put on a new faucet and the new vacuum breaker sucks. It pours water out when I turn a sprinkler on low to spot water. My last one did not do that.
Our is way older than that. Leaking aroung it specifically when I connected with the hose.
Well I'll be dipped. I have never heard of this device. So if a hose has a spray nozzle on the end and is in the off position it is good to go and is not a danger. But then again if a hose has the potential to siphon from a bucket that would mean that the faucet would have to be in the on position and if it is on then water is going to be flowing out. Seems to me like the people in code enforcement have too much time on their hands. I mean truthfully is this a real big problem that you know of Brian? Thank you and have a good weekend!
Has it happened yes. Is it rare yes. It some point we will have to do an experiment I think. Hope you have a great weekend Richard.
@@ThatFixItGuy Thank you Brian and yes I would love to see an experiment on this!
@@ThatFixItGuyIn rare occacions - that is BS. That physically can never happen unless you have a high pressure source at the end of your garden hose pumping water back into your house at greater than 80PSI !!! And to get the chemicals back into the water mains of the city would require pressure greater than 100PSI !!!
Thank you!
My new vacuum breaker leaks out of the little holes it has.... Why
No locking device on this one?
The hose bib (silver portion) is snapped in half so the top piece is actually still on the spickit.
When is it desirable to use Locktite ??
I only use it when I don’t want something to come apart or vibrate apart.
That was easy , he must have loosened it for you. A wire brush cleans threads nicely.
Very true. I wish I had brought my wire brush.
Where can I get
Amazon
Brian, could you tell me the exact model you purchase on Amazon? Trying to get the dimensions right. Thanks.
contaminated water supply without the vacuum breaker
Luckily there's not a set screw broken off..
Hose in a bucket is my favorite future rap song.
Never trust a guy that pronounces it “Ka-nipex” 😂😂