@@ObsidianHide idk twin having to sacrifice playing the supporter for turn on energy acceleration besides anything else when there’s other ways to do it isn’t ideal twin!!!
@@Windrammer Well you thin out 2 cards, if you play greninja you also have a solid +2 draw additionally. Having to rely on colress that might be prized, ffs and the ace spec engergy that could be prized, is risky too.
This will be much better once Manaphy rotates. Right now, it almost seems worth it to play a lost city just for it. A Dusknoir line to try and activate counter gain and get rid of Manaphy in the process sounds good too.
something to consider is that the only thing this deck needs is time, i feel that dusknoir not only requires more candy, but also speeds up the game before you can drop multiple obsidian attacks. however, the dusk becomes way better with a more headbutt heavy disrupt approach
@@dawidmelnarowicz5751 okay and true, as I'm sure you can appreciate as a new player I'm trying to avoid spending money on decks/cards that will be rotating out soon enough
I think Luminous Energy helps quite a bit so you can attack but still have Enamorus V protection. Other than when you attach the Neo Upper you’d always rather have that to attach than a metal energy. Edit: jk it doesn’t work with Turbo energize
I would also recomend Giovannis Carisma rlly comes in clutch when I had my greninja ex and rlly slows down the player especially if they low on energy cards.
The fact that Hydreigon also partially mills your opponent is terrifying. You could make 2 versions of Hydreigon ex, one is the one Azul showed and the other is a pure mill out which can potentially scares the hell out of even Snorlax Stall
I think the "normal" Version can do it kinda fine by only playing down deino -> Duodino and milling 2 per Turn. You dodge the Fan, can Iono your Hand back and could win in a pure mill warfare
Is it worth to run the 3 energy colors? Considering Neo Upper, and that you can deal damage and get KOs with only Dark energies, its seems that the deck loses consistency if you run all 3. Maybe you can cut the 3 metal and increase the other 2 colors
For the pronunciations: The whole joke of the Hydreigon line is that it contains the german words for 1 2 3 D Ein o Zwei lous Hy drei gon So they're pronounced Dye-no Zwai-less Hy-Dry-gun
I know you are probably seeking Azul's response, but while you wait I'll give my two cents. canceling requires a gust for active spot to work, so it becomes reliant on counter catcher since we are using supporter to set up (arven, tenacity). not sure it's worth that specific slotting.
Evidente que são testes prévios do deck já que ainda não lançou, mas eu prefiro jogar focando somente no 1° ataque. É muito trabalho 4 energias sendo 3 de tipos diferentes para dar somente 130 em 3 pokemon em um meta com Manaphy. Prefiro 200 no ativo e ele começar a perder cartas do deck. Enfim, muitas possibilidades.
@@Aztre40 i mean, I didn't say he shouldn't have made the video(?) I simply said the card in my opinion sucks (which is also not so obvious since it's winning city Leagues)
Azul when asked about Hydreigon: I'm not concerned about future decks
Azul when publishing videos:
Hahaha but tbf it’s way easier to discuss in a pre recorded video compared to answering a question in the moment
I think Crispin, Janine and dark patch are solid options to energize it fast and make the deck more aggressive
Exactly, Crispin is not appreciated enough, he comes in clutch for me all the time.
Crispin goat
@@ObsidianHide idk twin having to sacrifice playing the supporter for turn on energy acceleration besides anything else when there’s other ways to do it isn’t ideal twin!!!
If you aren't putting crispin in these big Tera decks then you effin upppp
@@Windrammer Well you thin out 2 cards, if you play greninja you also have a solid +2 draw additionally. Having to rely on colress that might be prized, ffs and the ace spec engergy that could be prized, is risky too.
One thing I have quickly learnt since picking up the game earlier this year is that the hype is rarely ever accurate
This will be much better once Manaphy rotates. Right now, it almost seems worth it to play a lost city just for it. A Dusknoir line to try and activate counter gain and get rid of Manaphy in the process sounds good too.
Dusking a manaphy doesn’t unlock counter, but I like the idea regardless
manaphy aint even seeing play rn dawg
I love this video format!!
Keep up the good work
The 2nd way to pronounce Deino was good. Its from the German ein zwei drei ( 1 2 3 )
As a German speaker, I’ll help out with the pronunciation:
DY-no
TSVY-lohs
Hy-DRY-gon
They’re base off German numbers of 1/2/3.
I don't think people care.
@@manleyfgc7981 i do
@@manleyfgc7981comments like this make you look like you were abused by your step dad, just sayin.
I care
@@manleyfgc7981waaaaaah bubby had a bad day
I think its "D-Eye-No" as its 1, 2 and 3 in german which is Eins "Eye-ns" (1) Zwei "Z-vy" (2) and Drei "Dry" (3)
1:52 but isn’t dusknoir an ability that causes damage? Effect is when you attack with a pokemon right(the description under certain attacks)?
I wonder if you can squeeze a 1-1 dusknoir in this to try get "behind" in prize cards quickly
I think the grass weakness and all the energy it needs attached to function hurts it right now with all the ogerpon running wild.
First look i thought it would be too expensive. Neo upper and the tool seem to work good.
Would use Chrispin too.
This way You might also be able to play munkidori
I am so gonna try this deck. Maybe not exactly like this, Dusknoir is way too good not to play it would surely try to squeeze it in somehow
same thoughts here.😊😮 Thinking about these multiprice turns😂
something to consider is that the only thing this deck needs is time, i feel that dusknoir not only requires more candy, but also speeds up the game before you can drop multiple obsidian attacks. however, the dusk becomes way better with a more headbutt heavy disrupt approach
Tera orb could be fun in dragapult too. Less cost compared to ultra balls
AYE yooooooo
After rotation what would you do for the draw engine? As a new player trying to look past the rotation
We have almost half a year and 2 unknown setlists before rotation. It's pretty early to tell for now because we might get something we don't know yet
@@dawidmelnarowicz5751 okay and true, as I'm sure you can appreciate as a new player I'm trying to avoid spending money on decks/cards that will be rotating out soon enough
Hopefully this is good. I want stage 2 decks to get some more love. Didn’t know about the enamorous 🤔
would love to see hydreigon be good but initial thoughts, its just seems too slow in this super fast format
I think Luminous Energy helps quite a bit so you can attack but still have Enamorus V protection. Other than when you attach the Neo Upper you’d always rather have that to attach than a metal energy.
Edit: jk it doesn’t work with Turbo energize
I would also recomend Giovannis Carisma rlly comes in clutch when I had my greninja ex and rlly slows down the player especially if they low on energy cards.
GG as in Galaxy Gas?
The fact that Hydreigon also partially mills your opponent is terrifying. You could make 2 versions of Hydreigon ex, one is the one Azul showed and the other is a pure mill out which can potentially scares the hell out of even Snorlax Stall
I think the "normal" Version can do it kinda fine by only playing down deino -> Duodino and milling 2 per Turn.
You dodge the Fan, can Iono your Hand back and could win in a pure mill warfare
Is it worth to run the 3 energy colors? Considering Neo Upper, and that you can deal damage and get KOs with only Dark energies, its seems that the deck loses consistency if you run all 3. Maybe you can cut the 3 metal and increase the other 2 colors
What if you Prize Neo Upper though?
At 11:08 wouldn’t it have been better to grab the hydriegon with the ultra ball and then get rare candy counter gain with the arven?
Why Turo over pecharunt if it was just for getting unstuck from the active? Pecharunt ex at least can work as a back up attacker
Also no Munkidori? Surely that gets huge value turning the Obsidian attack into atleast one 160, that knocks out a Squawkabily!
@@CutlassBoardgames with how much energy hungry the card is I don't think you really got a turn to manually attach to Munkidori
@@CutlassBoardgamescooking
For the pronunciations:
The whole joke of the Hydreigon line is that it contains the german words for 1 2 3
D Ein o
Zwei lous
Hy drei gon
So they're pronounced
Dye-no
Zwai-less
Hy-Dry-gun
IF Hydreigon catches on, do you think you need to make space for a canceling cologne (in response to more Manaphys)
I know you are probably seeking Azul's response, but while you wait I'll give my two cents. canceling requires a gust for active spot to work, so it becomes reliant on counter catcher since we are using supporter to set up (arven, tenacity). not sure it's worth that specific slotting.
all I’d change in terms of this style of build is another stadium bump
Evidente que são testes prévios do deck já que ainda não lançou, mas eu prefiro jogar focando somente no 1° ataque. É muito trabalho 4 energias sendo 3 de tipos diferentes para dar somente 130 em 3 pokemon em um meta com Manaphy. Prefiro 200 no ativo e ele começar a perder cartas do deck. Enfim, muitas possibilidades.
You should add Roaring Moon ex
1 luminous energy may be good
If someone figures out dusknoir with hydreigon 1 turn 6 prizes
are these proxies how does he have english singles already
Proxies
Never understood the hype behind this, seems kinda shit to me
He's a TH-camr
This is content bruh
Deck sucks
It's obvs
@@Aztre40 i mean, I didn't say he shouldn't have made the video(?) I simply said the card in my opinion sucks (which is also not so obvious since it's winning city Leagues)
suuuper slow and inconsistent
i dont think it will se a lot of play