Fun fact, Nebraska abolished its upper house for similar reasons to Queensland, and then U.S. senator for Nebraska, George W. Norris pointed to Queensland as an example.
Saddest fact about all this is that poor old TJ Ryan died unexpectedly less than 3 months before the Legislative Council voted itself out of existence & so never got to see it.
Glad I found your channel, great videos about auspol. I’m hoping you can make a video about Australia becoming a republic and maybe even changing our National and state flags. Kind of like a ‘what if’ type of video, while also bringing up previous attempts like the 99 referendum and the nsw proposed flags that were flown in 2000 or 2001. Unless you have already covered it another video.
A fascinating bit of Australian political history indeed! I used to have a housemate from Queensland and would tease her about not having a chamber of review fairly often. Thanks for taking the time to explain this little idiosyncrasy in an engaging way! |Also, can't get the idea of England as "Australia's Daddy" out of my head! Hilarious!
I need to find a reason to use the quote “not to like, get too political but, like.... I like democracy.” - David 2021. People will be like ‘who’s David’ where I will simply reply ‘oh, if you don’t know by now, you’ll never know’.
Fun fact, in the Hansard after the Council passed the abolition bill, there’s a part that says “Hon P. J. LEAHY said the day was not far distant when, phoenix-like, the Council would rise from its ashes and be restored.” That was 100 years ago. I hope they do restore it one day, it’s just a shame that it’s not in the interests of the major parties to have that accountability. The thing with other unicameral systems is they have quite stringent review processes internally (most bills get sent to committees and require some form of unanimous consent). Queensland doesn’t have this and has suffered tremendously for not having a temper in governments - the governments seem to either last one term or decades.
A little off-topic, but you mentioned New Zealand only has one chamber of government, but they still have to compromise because the electoral system in New Zealand gives parties representation (almost) in proportion to how many votes they got, so a chamber of review isn't necessary to force compromise.
We don’t compromise in ways the Australians and others using the bicameral system do. If a coalition gets into power in NZ, they put forward a coalition agreement which will have the compromises sorted before they enter parliament. Once in parliament they very rarely compromise in the true sense of compromise. Amendments in the reading process allow non-governing parties to put their argument for change but again it’s not compromise in the true sense. The current government certainly has no reason to compromise given their majority and National’s 9 years certainly had zero compromise with Labour, Greens and NZF.
Many of the abuses of Sir Joh's regime (1968-87) might have been avoided if there had been a Council. A lot of Queenslanders have paid a heavy price for what Labor did in 1922. Some with their lives.
Good suggestion! I read a biography of him recently. He was central to the federation of Australia and also the creation of the High Court (which he became a judge on) so definitely interesting and of historic note. I should do a series on biographies of old PMs.
@@AuspolExplained Where does a Queensland Governor get the magical powers to give consent to a bill from only one house ? This also makes it inconsistent with the Commonwealth
Fun fact, Nebraska abolished its upper house for similar reasons to Queensland, and then U.S. senator for Nebraska, George W. Norris pointed to Queensland as an example.
Even more fun fact, they actually abolished their lower house, it's current legislature was originally the state senate.
Saddest fact about all this is that poor old TJ Ryan died unexpectedly less than 3 months before the Legislative Council voted itself out of existence & so never got to see it.
Glad I found your channel, great videos about auspol.
I’m hoping you can make a video about Australia becoming a republic and maybe even changing our National and state flags. Kind of like a ‘what if’ type of video, while also bringing up previous attempts like the 99 referendum and the nsw proposed flags that were flown in 2000 or 2001. Unless you have already covered it another video.
Neither of those topics are covered in previous videos but they are interesting! I'd love to dive into the failed republic referendum.
I love your style of comedy mixed with information, I can't stop watching your videos
A fascinating bit of Australian political history indeed! I used to have a housemate from Queensland and would tease her about not having a chamber of review fairly often. Thanks for taking the time to explain this little idiosyncrasy in an engaging way! |Also, can't get the idea of England as "Australia's Daddy" out of my head! Hilarious!
Thank you! And could be worse: could've called it "Australia's mummy"
I need to find a reason to use the quote “not to like, get too political but, like.... I like democracy.” - David 2021. People will be like ‘who’s David’ where I will simply reply ‘oh, if you don’t know by now, you’ll never know’.
Get a tattoo of the quote as a real conversation starter
Shout out to Labor generally keeping things actually working and democratic through Australia's history.
Fun fact, in the Hansard after the Council passed the abolition bill, there’s a part that says “Hon P. J. LEAHY said the day was not far distant when, phoenix-like, the Council would rise from its ashes and be restored.” That was 100 years ago.
I hope they do restore it one day, it’s just a shame that it’s not in the interests of the major parties to have that accountability. The thing with other unicameral systems is they have quite stringent review processes internally (most bills get sent to committees and require some form of unanimous consent). Queensland doesn’t have this and has suffered tremendously for not having a temper in governments - the governments seem to either last one term or decades.
Informative and entertaining. Can you also discuss about the Federation Chamber and its comparison to the Westminster Hall?
This was a fantastic video you did an amazing job it was super informative
Thank you!
Thank you, so much. Your my fav political science teacher 😃
A little off-topic, but you mentioned New Zealand only has one chamber of government, but they still have to compromise because the electoral system in New Zealand gives parties representation (almost) in proportion to how many votes they got, so a chamber of review isn't necessary to force compromise.
We don’t compromise in ways the Australians and others using the bicameral system do. If a coalition gets into power in NZ, they put forward a coalition agreement which will have the compromises sorted before they enter parliament. Once in parliament they very rarely compromise in the true sense of compromise. Amendments in the reading process allow non-governing parties to put their argument for change but again it’s not compromise in the true sense. The current government certainly has no reason to compromise given their majority and National’s 9 years certainly had zero compromise with Labour, Greens and NZF.
Thank you so much. Very informative.
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You are such a genius to explain the complex legal history, thanks alot!!!!
Huh. Didn’t know this, many thanks for the education.
does this mean that since the council was done away with that any state 'laws' in Qld from then until present day are deemed unlawful ?
No? The Assembly passes laws and the Governor gives royal assent. The Council was abolished through legal means.
@@AuspolExplained Why have a referendum and ignore the results which was inconsistent with section 53 of the QLD constitution
Yes, this was tested in court about 6 years ago
good video
Thanks for that. As a old bastard I'm always looking to learn stuff, and here we are. 👏👏👏
I love your vids because right now I'm learning history and my teacher loves me because of your facts
Many of the abuses of Sir Joh's regime (1968-87) might have been avoided if there had been a Council. A lot of Queenslanders have paid a heavy price for what Labor did in 1922. Some with their lives.
history of Edmund Barton first Prime Minister of Australia
Good suggestion! I read a biography of him recently. He was central to the federation of Australia and also the creation of the High Court (which he became a judge on) so definitely interesting and of historic note. I should do a series on biographies of old PMs.
@@AuspolExplained Where does a Queensland Governor get the magical powers to give consent to a bill from only one house ? This also makes it inconsistent with the Commonwealth
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"Australia's daddy" Why did you have to say it like that dude??
i never thought i'd laugh at qld politics.
It is very Queensland style hahaha
Unrepresentative swill