I was wrong about Wing Chun - Grandmaster teaches me a lesson
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I want to thank Ilan Srulovicz for this great time, respect and dedication he has for his work, and he showed me. He is a real scientist who does real research, and gives each martial art a place to be known, cause some interest or be criticised on a very high and intelligent level. Keep doing what you do! He is a legit expert and practicioner in fighting and for martial arts. He has a quick and deep understanding of movements, structure, force and technique. I´m looking forward to the next meetings we´re gonna have.
Very honored to have trained with you and for the kind words. I learned a lot in our short time and i hope that we can do a video on escrima next!
@@inside_fighting me too!
This is gonna sound so stupid, but when I watched you Drakulic Sifu, it was like listening to that Paul Atreides speech in the sietch in 'Dune 2'. I was ready to join the cause!🤚🏻🤛🏻
(also reminded me of the great Cus D'Amato saying to Mike, "You're doing the 'H', it's good but it's not perfect yet, it's gotta be perfect")
This dude is a hoss 🤘
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Yes. You have finally met a taste of real Wing Chun. It isn't a weak system. There are just a lot of poorly trained and weak Wing Chun fighters.
I'd like to go on a more positive note and say that what we're seeing is the exact result of Wing Chun getting the respect it deserves, instead of saying there's weak and poorly trained students, this is often just the result of a lack of attention to a way of thinking: less people less chance some geniuses step up.
I am very happy with videos like this, and I see more and more martial artists coming around and at the very least adapting WC to their own systems. My own lineage is closely following Leung Tin too and I recognize and practise most of the principles Sifu does here, I'm definitely sharing this with my classmates.
. im not sold until i really see it used in a combat situation where there are different aspects.. stress, anger and fear. It changes the whole situation. In the end this is still a demonstration just different to what others been showing.. no actual proof if it works
When put against any grappling art, Wing Chun shows its weakness.
@@gi7685Battlefield tested and proven, been there done that.
@@gerrardstyx1752 I'd love to spar and learn from you, and I hope you'd learn some things too
This is the first time I have seen someone explain the concept of Wing Chun correctly. My father was from Hong Kong and learned Wing Chun in the 60's and 70's and this is how it was taught to me. Nice to see.
Then you should check out Master Beddard or his students. Ip man lineage second generation
@@1individeo Oh yeah, Didier Beddard is Wing Chun gold.
Wing Chun looks like a mixture of standing grappling and striking.
More!!
Bro what if sifu Qi La La added this training to his style?
@@user-pr6se1pt3u I was wondering the exact same thing!
Jerry!
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Not just Wing Chun, but this applies to ALL Kung fu styles
That’s my SiFu!!
I am a current student there, & glad I stumbled into this real deal wing chun school. 💪
Hehe, enjoy!
Thank you!
More from this guy please.
This man is correct. The problem is, here are far too many "Insta-Masters" of Wing Chun, giving the art a bad name, which is exactly what people did with Kenpo.
Agree 100%
If I lived in Plantation Florida I swear I'd join this guy's school today. Best wing chun instructional I've *ever* seen. He's for real for real.
Getting the Lats involved really is the key to short range striking power.
I never tried it before and it makes a huge difference.
That's why Bruce Lee had wings.
Thanks need more
Some of his movements and approaches looked very familiar, then he mentions that he trained under Latosa and now it all makes sense. That guy was the real deal.
Yes he has a big fma influence as well. He seems to mesh them very well
If you mean Rene Latosa was with IWTA and EWTO, as a Escrima grandmaster. Naturally ARNIES or ESCRIMA has weaponless fighting system which is as direct as Wing Tsun/Chun. And him being close friend to grandmaster Kernspecht, pretty sure he picked up a lot from Wing Tsun/Chun itself.
@@inside_fighting FMA meshes well with everything. My Bujinkan teacher of 20+ years also had a background in FMA. Surprise surprise the crossover pollination is perfect.
Glad you are trying out different systems with different instructors.
It’s a lot of fun experiencing these different styles. Really opens up my training and is more fun .
@@inside_fightingNot saying this guy is not legit or any thing but i have researched Wing Chun for many years from books,movies,youtube clips from many different Wing Chun people I have watched most of the Ip-Man movies the four with Donnie Yen and more i have watched Bruce Lee most of my life and his students and this is the only person i can remember that said Wing Chun has hooks or any punches other than the straight blast and chain punch.I also watch Master Wong,Dan Inosanto,Emil Martirossian.
@@shawnsmith2610 i was surprised too. That’s why i made it part of the video. I think his lineage has them.
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you can see the hook punches in the third empty handed form, Biu Tze (Biu Jee).
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you can see it being used in a similar “chi sau” or hand-fighting setting as we saw in this video.
@@inside_fighting That's the awesome thing about Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do and Burton Richardsons Jeet Kune Do Unlimited is you can use the moves of any style with or without weapons so you can add moves like hooks, upper cuts,jabs,to the moves of Wing Chun or add more ground moves to the moves of Sanda and Sanshou and still be doing Jeet Kune Do you cant do that with boxing,Judo, Aikido,kickboxing,Kendo and so on.
Annnnnd I'm here for this.
Very curious to see what you think. As you know I’m a noob with wing chun.
@IzzoWingChun would be great to have him on your show as a guest, GM Drakulić is an amazing character, dedicated and extremely talented. Let me know if you’re interested and I can make the arrangements.
Thanks for sharing guys!! Excellent content!💯🙏🏽
Do Sparring next haha 🤞🤞 this dude is legit! Loved this video!!!
We played around more off camera and he’s good😅 I’ll see if he lets us film sparring
@@inside_fighting I'd love to see that because it'll shut up the "annoying anti- anything that isn't boxing" goal post movers hahaha
Those guys are simple minds
@@JeffreyParker-ok5ed yeah, I get the initial distaste boxers/mma guys etc. have towards wing chun, but when you show them the good wing chun people and explain that it's fighting like any other some of them go "oh okay, so it's like any other martial art" which I respect, than you have the others who will just move the goal post further and won't admit they were wrong...those annoy me a lot
@@martialgeeks Thanks! Ready to spar anytime, let’s go!
Good stuff! 👍
i practice wing chun from the last 20 years and train people too , from the police and other security services , many times the system and style what i teach like this sifu save lives in hard security works , amazing video
Finally a Leung Ting Wing Tsun master like I experienced them 20 years ago. It's so hard to describe to people how you feel sparring against someone like that.
No joke, it is impossible to get in on someone that has a solid understanding AND the ‘flow’ of the art. I did 5 years of LT but unfortunately, the flow eluded me before I had to quit.
Wing Chun has its place in the fighting culture clearly, the skills you get in bridging and controlling the gaps in infighting are valuable for every style out there. Thank you for the great video!
Even Bruce Lee changed his vision and application of traditional WC. He was hated by many for it, but no matter the flack, he always held that "everything that comes from my fists is wing chun".
It was awesome to see a similar spirit in this Sifu.
Thank you!
Love this video. Great clinch range/ "dirty boxing" / trapping range info. PLEASE do more with this gentleman if you can. Thanks! PS- love your channel...
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Seems like the problem with Wing Chun isn’t that it doesn’t work, it’s that there’s too much deviation in quality control.
Go to a Judo, Boxing, or Mauy Thai gym, your experience will be consistent no matter where you go. I imagine it’s very hard to find a Wing Chun instructor as legit as this guy.
Then why don’t boxing, wrestling, Muay Thai, BJJ have the same problem?
@@RaveyDavey they have better quality control.
This is fantastic!!! I love his explanation & demonstration of his style of Wing Chun.
To those here saying that Wing Chun automatically fails against grappling, I wouldn't be so sure. Back when I trained in WC there was an intermediate student who often went up against a friend who did BJJ. The BJJ guy couldn't take him down. Even though the WC guy was just average, he had extremely good defense just like this GM. Another thing this fellow student demonstrated to me is that this art offers a way of self defense where you don't necessarily have to hit the other person. This guy's chi sao was so effective that he could just put his straight arm against my chest and I couldn't get past it; he'd just roll to putting his other hand against my chest, keeping me away without me being able to hit him, or take him down, and he didn't have to hit me. That's a very useful benefit of WC.
A good wing chun vs grappling, imo would be to watch early Bruce Lee and Dan Inosanto. Enjoy!
All respect Dan Inosanto😊
Great encapsulation. Great explanation of things that are so often misunderstood.
Thank you!
Glad you liked it 🙏🏼
well done, both of you
Great work. Wing Chun is an excellent stand up anti grappling art but has to be practiced with good structure and grounding
I come from the Moy Yat lineage, but I borrow a lot from others. The Leung Ting branch has a lot to offer. It's good seeing a decent explanation.
The best way I can describe WC is if you take the clinching of Muay Thai and Boxing and then mix them with Grexo Roman Wrestling. You can get really good in close range if you train hard.
This was great! Plz more Wing Chun with this amazing instructor.
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I am glad you finally experienced some real wing Chun. For a guy like you who is well versed in other Martial Arts, if you start training wing Chun seriously you will be really amazed with what the style has to offer. You should also look at some videos from Erick Paulson who is using wing Chun and Chisau while grappling on the ground.
Erick Paulson is awesome! He’s got a library of techniques and is super tough
@@inside_fightingBut he was only ever good at the grappling. Not hating, just remember watching his fights when ( both of us😂were young) and he only seemed proficient at the grappling. Remember some of my instructors going crazy watching that " World Fighting Championship" match with the Boxer/ Kickboxer. Fought almost exclusively in " clinch/ trap range, but all we got was bad wrestling that ended in a "Hair grab and Hammerfist combo. Disappointing because My peeps had picked him to win it all. Still a good fighter, but a grappler, I feel.
@@bronzetiger6360 i remember that fight. The entire fight was a hair grab 😂
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I loved this video because it's what Wing Chun is truly about.
Glad you liked it!
Great Sifu. The point he hit on your arm was a pressure point on the Lung Meridian which goes from your thumb, up the arm to the chest. This is why you felt it in your fingers, it was radiating from the thumb
It's also where the nerve exits the bone.
Milos Drakulic is one of the best Sifus in Leung Ting Wing Tsun!
Had the pleasure to learn from him for 6 years. Nearly as good as my actual Sifu 😉
Thank you!
Ip man used the wedge block against twister.
Rare view of high level practical skill. Nice to see the specific muscle engagement pointed out. To many WC punchers are just arm.
He has a great understanding of how to engage different parts of his body for more force generation.
I am proud to be the student of Grandmaster Miloš Drakulić! Great Video💪🏽
Thank you!
Fantastic video! Please do more - Leung Ting Wing Tsun is a complete system with fighting at all ranges, and would love to see more from the both of you!
This was excellent.
Thank you!
like him I usually flex my lattisimus in my fencing pratice. It allows me a better sensisivity of my opponent intention. Until now, it was unconscious. I can now apply this knowlege in my empty hand combat structure.
Thank you very much !!!!
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Hehe, great video and explanation, Sifu! As usual :)
Thank you!
Must break into the opponent's vital space, like Leo Tamaki teaches
Amazing video! Loved how you guys explained everything ❤
I love it. Great work guy's. 👏
Really glad you enjoyed!
Subscribing: here's why, 1) I had the SAME EXACT questions about wing Chun and hook punches etc = ANSWERED
2) the man did what men do : admit when in err learn gain wisedome grow and teach...
Respect!
If the sifu applied sticking leg with forward pressure while applying his upper body techniques you'd have felt complete wing Tsun
OUTSTANDING VIDEO
Educational- Exchange of ideals - Respect by both practitioners
This is a gathering use to be when I first started training at age and now 64
THANK YOU for this video -&- great memories
Appreciate that! Thanks so much
Thank you!
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AWESOME VIDEO! Great guest, humble and well done interview & demo, thoroughly enjoyed!
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This is the best wing Chun video I've ever seen so far. The complexity of movement and the simple explanation makes it very digestable in a short time, eventhough the duration is relatively short it felt longer due to the great explanation and eyecatching practice with little spar. The essence of wingchun is shown clearly in practical moves without the need to show all the fundamentalls.
Thank you!
Excellent I will retain this for my own training, I already like elbows this has cemented the effectiveness of elbows for me even more
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That was great!
Seeing boxing techniques like wedge blocks, changing angles, etc here. Pretty cool.
Glad to see you stepped it back a bit and gave WC some cred. Thank u brother. And so glad you came across a more than competent instructor.
I always try and keep an open mind. I think any system can be amazing with the right instructor.
@@inside_fighting agreed! #Ascension WingChunKungfu
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Fantastic demonstration.
Awesome video, I’m not a wing chun practitioner but I really enjoyed seeing how he deals with hooks. Very cool stuff
Cool thanx for posting.
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Awesome!!! :)
Solid concepts.
I'm a very long time Wing Tsun, Bajiquan and Jiu-jitsu practicioner.
Those movements we begin in Chi Sao, become the gentle sensitivity we use to engage later in touch: to feel through and strike with elbows, shoulders, needs and toes. In each system there is a direct way of force and initiation into movement within the combat space. We use this to effectively strike, re-engage, touch and hold, trap-set and move with what we're give in a linear principal; meaning once we are giving something we move forward within the space to create new movement; new engagement, new concepts, new targets, new distance, new opportunity.
Everything this guy is saying checks out one a 123 basis, but most importantly, he's establishing ideas and concepts within the movements.
This is what Wing Chun is supposed to be in combat, but I Bajiquan, it's almost the same. In BJJ it's different but only that you're establishing with many more smaller battles of grip and technical understanding within your skillset.
To combine these with Muay Thai would be fantastic.
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the fact that he is renforcing his guard structure with his lattisimus reminds me the old school boxing guard with weak arm extended
That is very true. I experienced this when i met a really good boxing coach in portugal.
I enjoy it very much. Thank you!
Thank you too!
Yup! It's whether you know how to use it. A sensitivity art, soft and hard.
Good job.. this is how ALL traditional systems should be viewed and trained. Make contact, jam or deflect, hit and posture change. Inside Fighting guy calls out what needs to be called out but you can tell he is passionate about traditional arts and is actually making them better by pointing out their weaknesses for current and future practitioners. You don't need to be able to beat a Thai Fighter in the street, you need to be able to neutralize aggression and wild attacks. No matter your style, you need to train against pressure.
thanks for that. I think traditional styles have tons of value and in many wars offer more longevity than combat sports. There is only so much wear and tear my body can take and I don't ever want to stop training.
Did he learn from Keith Kernspecht in Germany? This reminds me a lot of the limited time I was able to train with Sifu Emin Boztepe and GM Rene Latosa. I wasn’t aware he passed away. He was amazing.
I used to be in the European WingTsun Organisation(EWTO) wich is affiliated to GGM Leung Ting’s IWTA (International WingTsun Association), and GM Keith Kernspecht was GGM Leung Ting’s student.
Kampfkunstschulen Drakulic used to be in EWTO long time ago.
Yes, I used to be in the EWTO long time ago, and I joined some of Sifu Emin´s seminars. That was around 1995-1998
Great job on the watch ad by the way. That was awesome!
New the Channel. Love it!
is there a website or an address for the Wing Chun School
Great stuff, guys! Thanks a lot! There's is school in Germany, Potsdam. A bit far away for me. Very interesting, still!
My VLMA MACD in Berlin, come check us out.
What's about Pankow district?
Oooo, can't wait to watch this
This guy was a bad ass 💪🏽
This was truly amazing to watch 🙏🏾
Thank you!
That was excellent. I never really rated the Chinese Martial arts. Maby just never saw it done well. But that looked like it could be effective Fair play to him!!
That zig zag step in the old days was called the plum flower footwork Shaolin method
We can notice the way this Sifu Talks and moves that he came from the Leung Ting lineage. Most guys from there are realy good in understading WingChun in general, and I`m saying this also as a WT SIFU... 🙂
Thank you!
This is the guy that never listened when his WC sifu said "relax". Then made his WC better because of it.
your intro song is awesome haha!
I studied WC many years ago, under SiFu Dave Meadows who learned under Sigung Duncan Leung , and I saw first hand how effective WC is, I am finally glad to see someone out there that showed what real WC is, I am tired of all the bad publicity it has been getting. Finally someone who explained what the chisow is really for, to build up sensitivity to be able to predict what your opponent moves are going to be.
Thank you
Your welcome
Great video. I personally think it would be fascinating to get a similarly aware teacher on to demonstrate martial tai chi. Almost everybody sees it as a non-martial practice, or as a very weak martial art. I'm no master, but it seems to me like there's a lot of potential. Competition isn't really in the tai chi culture, so it's probably really hard to find a master who applies it seriously to fighting. Maybe that's part of the reason it's so little recognized, you see wing chun discussions like this one but I've never seen similar for taichi.
Rokus of martial arts journey really should test himself against this Sifu before he bashes Wing Tsun anymore.
Can you add some traditional weapons in a video with him? Or see what his approach is when being attacked by different weapons? This video is awesome!
Thank you!
@kampfkunstschulendrakulicm2480 Of course! I have been studying Yongchun White Crane and I recently have been wanting to train Wing Chun to see the similarities! Keep doing what you do!🙏🏻🫡💪🏻🤝🏻
I know why youre saying this. I understand and hope you get as many new followers as possible because your channel is great 😁
Izzo's gonna love this one
Great dialogue. I think every Wing Chun practitioner should train at least basic wrestling, glad to see someone who acknowledges the similarities
Agreed. It amplifies it all
That's cool
And really different to what you normaly see. I remember a long time ago when Emin Boztepe was like "the WC guy".
I like this one right here.
Thank you for making this vid
Thank you!
Training the mind is first, sticking allows you to feel the opponent then you can find the holes in the armour. This is essential in all martial arts.
Great! Real Kungfu is awesome and effective but it's rare to find.
ya i used to dunk on wing Chung too. lol.
Now i got a knot on the side of my head thats been there for 4 years. i dont even know how i got hit.. he even warned me.
I was very glad to see this video. it is really cool to see you guys being so respectful of one another. how ever I felt like that you would be able to get him to the ground if you pushed him a little harder. also the the lack of footwork in wing Chun is very limiting. Wing Chun relies on full commitment of the attacker. the system is vulnerable for feints and probing jabs and good footwork . I truly believe that it has its place and the hand fighting aspect is great but most of the training of a well rounded martial artist should consist of grappling and and other striking arts than Wing Chun. However I believe that a good striker who uses the long guard would benefit a lot from wing Chun . apologies for my English Greeting from Germany:)
Please integrate this into your close range self defense system and come out with a new course!
Reminds me of Emin Boztepe
Thank you!
I had earned my blue belt in Brazillian Jujitsu, took Indonesian's Silat for 12 years, Kali for 8 years, Bruneian's Silat in 3years and recently i took up Sanda for almost 6 months. I had encountered spar with a lot Wing Chun guys, ow boy their Wing Chun were throw out of the window by my Silat's sweeps and take down and some Wing Chun guys were ended up by my choke hold and put them to sleep within 3 seconds. Until I encountered the real Wing Chun guy. I met him in the park and yea we became friends. I noticed he's doing that gibberish chi sau alone. When i asked him what he is doing and he said to me that he practice Wing Chun but seems this weirdo guy didn't wanna spar with me. And i felt kinda annoying then i gave him a rear naked choked and take him to the ground. I would say it was not my lucky day lol. I mean i was expected a tap out from him or put him to sleep because it was more than 3 seconds count and he able to sneak in his left hand to hold my right arm wrist at the same time follow up with his right arm to hold my right arm joint between my forearm and that's why nothing happened to him then his chin pinned to my middle forearm and that kinda hurt and i kept playing my other ground game and i was not going to easy on him but i thought i was ahead of him then some how i don't know how he did it subsequently he hold my right knee and my inner thigh got pinned by his elbow and that was what happened caused me scream like a bitch. That was extremely hurt and this time his turn to roll me over and my face got pinned by his sharp knuckle. Whether that was my bad day or what not this is my testify 'I was wrong about Wing Chun' of my version. Well we are good, we still buddy now. The moral of the story is 'No matter how many martial arts style we have learn, just cease off the ego and learn from others no matter what'. Me take up Wing Chun? May be later because i still need to explore more with my stuff.
Ive never experienced the Leung Ting lineage before as a wing chun guy...so his method of using tan da on the on-time timing against the hook was unique to me. Ive seen it before but its not my personal go to. Obviously if this method is his most comfortable preference then i dont see why not.
Finally we are represented properly!
Thank you!
@@kampfkunstschulendrakulicm2480 I’m a student of Leung Ting 1st Tech and teacher. I’ve grown super tired of seeing the worst versions of our martial art portrayed as what it is. So happy to see you run across this teacher. Thanks for your honest betrayal I have enjoyed other episodes of your channel and was super happy to see this one.
Awesome presentation on both parties! What I and the world truly needs to see now, is wing chun as in any other “internally” labeled martial arts have practitioners put their egos aside as in this video but ONCE AND FOR ALL DISCUSS AND DISPLAY THE REALITY AMONGST EACH OTHER BUT PUBLICLY THE DIFFERENCE OF INTERNAL MARTIAL ARTS OPPOSED TO THIS VIDEOS DISPLAY OF ONLY MUSCULAR STRENGTH AND STRUCTURE BUT NOT INTERNAL STATE! It’s one thing to favor one or the other, because of personal reasons but it’s totally wrong to call one or the other “fake” or whatever out of ignorance! Experience internal martial arts from someone like Nima King, John Cognan or Adam Mizner to name a few of several and then informatively give a true opinion like in this video! Then everyone come together and show what they all truly are, stop pop shoting and trash talking other concepts out of ignorance. 😳🤦🏻♂️🙄/👌✌️🤲☝️🤔
Dude, this was such an awesome and inspiring showcase of Wing Chun. I've understood these concepts to a degree but to see them actually applied AND explained is so enlightening. Thanks so much for sharing this. Please tell Sifu Milo (sp??) that this was such a great presentation.
So glad you liked it. I’ll make sure to pass on the comment!
Thanks!
@@MYVLMA Hey! That was such a great video, can't wait to see more.
Free sparring ?
Love to see it
100% agree re real physical strength in WC
It’s a southern Chinese boxing style and when I came up in the 80’s the fighters of the system we’re all VERY strong .
Respectfully could you post a free sparring video as I’d like to see this working with a competent kick boxer / boxer .
I transitioned into kick boxing many years ago after attending a challenge match as seeing the results
Imho in WC the lack of head movement and limited mobility along worth not understanding boxing punches and angles make it extremely vulnerable.
I still love the style but based on all video footage it’s very very very rarely effective in open single combat ( imagine for a moment if that were true of boxing / Muay Thai/ bjj / wrestling/ judo etc ? )
I'm no master or WC expert at all...but I love the art and defend it as much as I can, simply because no other practice helped me with sensitivity and pressure than Wing Chun!
Ps. That's a Serbian flag! Is he from there? We're from Croatia, we're neighbours hahah
Yes he’s Serbian but lived in Germany
We were wrong about all traditional martial arts not only wing chun.
Now imagine this with the really nasty stuff of chinese martial arts like troath and groin rip, eye strikes, pressure point strikes etc. Its literal systematic, refined human body destruction.
Mate the intro song is a banger!
This is very nice
Nice
Awesome!! Hard to find a competent Wing Chun teacher
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