Why Artists Need to Understand Criticism

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  • @OwainMilliken
    @OwainMilliken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    hey! this sucks

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      lol okay

    • @OwainMilliken
      @OwainMilliken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ShellCat gotta get that youtube money, for that 5 dollar gouache

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Lavenderstar The Dragon it is, actually ;^)

    • @The_Doctor_Goose
      @The_Doctor_Goose 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ShellCat I just come across your channel right I was expecting like 1 million views because your channel is soo good!?!?! YOU DESERVE MORE!!!

    • @jackblade3216
      @jackblade3216 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      People just don't recognize the awesome talent that some artist have it really is a sad thing to hear I wish they could see the beauty for ShellCat from my perspective

  • @Imnotactiveanymore744
    @Imnotactiveanymore744 6 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I agree because i have seen many artists give up just because of a "this sucks" or "awful". That's how artists improve, overcoming their mistakes and haters. And I also agree with having to toughen up. If you can't take even constructive criticism (which I have also noticed) posting stuff online isn't for you. I don't want anyone to take that the wrong way. I remember when I gave a small animator some constructive criticism. I basically said " this is amazing. The only thing you can work on is anatomy and you will gain millions of sub's" and they yelled at me and attacked me through the comments. I tried to explain that I wasn't being mean, they couldn't take it.
    So what I am saying is:
    If you can't take constructive criticism or go full on beserk with just a dislike then online posting isn't for you. Constructive criticism and even hate is how we improve.
    Have a lovely day. 😊

    • @baconbearworld1646
      @baconbearworld1646 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      . I think that you should only give criticism to an artist if they ask for it.

    • @pastelfluffkitten7452
      @pastelfluffkitten7452 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@baconbearworld1646 I do sort of agree with you. But the thing is artists should always be prepared gpfir criticism. You shouldn't say "no only give me criticism now". Plus that person who I was talking about constantly reminded others in her descriptions to give her feedback on her art. She would only accept criticism from certain people but then full on attack others if they did it, like she did to me. I hope you understand 💙❤

    • @baconbearworld1646
      @baconbearworld1646 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PastelFluff Kitten I’m not just referring to one person, I’m talking about any artist in general. What I’m trying to say is it’s no use in trying to give an artist criticism if they don’t want it.

  • @fishspinejams
    @fishspinejams 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    People also need to understand that sometimes an artist is not in the mood, or not comfortable to receive criticism on a piece of art. People need to have good common sense, and maybe not criticize something if they think the artist is gonna be really offended by it. Criticism is something hard to deal with for sensitive and young artists, so i think artists should learn how to take it, and people should learn how to give it.

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hnai that is a very good point!! however, there’s always going to be people just there to go “this looks dumb, ur so bad at drawing lolololol” and most of them time their trolls who won’t care about the artists feelings. i want to warn artists so that they understand not to let these things discourage them!! (i myself have even gotten these many a time)

    • @chocolizard678
      @chocolizard678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShellCat I agree but what really gets under my skin are those people portraying all criticism as "this sucks lol". It makes people think all criticism, even constructive stuff like "the faces are kinda distractingly similar on a few characters but it is beautiful otherwise. Maybe change up eye shapes." are insults even if they arent. I hate when people think all criticism is an insult to their art (yes I've had people say that to me for stuff like the example I gave). I think while critics need to be mindful artists need as well cuz too many people put up a wall of "all criticism is rude unless you ask and I give permission or I ask for it!". Like in my school where we've been peer grading for stuff like projects, creative writing, and art since middle school if you said something like that you'd probs get a talk with the teacher. Irl stuff like that won't on your terms but people dont seem to care :/.

    • @sketchbook_worm
      @sketchbook_worm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      agreed!

  • @ishmerru
    @ishmerru 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Regardless of what people draw, they will always receive criticism.
    Which means you just gonna have to deal with it and learn from it. I honestly get sick and tired from people who are over protective of their art work or get hurt by constructive criticism, its mind blowing.

  • @fennecishere
    @fennecishere 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Literally I've never gotten bad critism the whole 2 years I've been posting art online, even when my art actually sucked.

    • @fennecishere
      @fennecishere 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Scp 122 Object class : keter Wh- no not really. Especially the art on my TH-cam channel since most of it was drawn on Flipaclip.

    • @Wolfydoo
      @Wolfydoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s because no one wants to seem rude 😔
      I mean like sometimes I try to word it in a nice way-

    • @fennecishere
      @fennecishere 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wolfydoo fair, but I think I mostly just got lucky and/or because I only posted my art on one social media while still learning (that unfortunately being Amino)

  • @bizarrebobcat
    @bizarrebobcat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Someone called my art cancer when I was like 11 or 12. It made me wanna quit drawing but I'm glad I moved past it and didn't stop drawing.

    • @bizarrebobcat
      @bizarrebobcat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looking back on it I get why they called it cancer lol.

  • @megamushroom
    @megamushroom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    My problem is completely different nobody is criticizing my art...

    • @diamonddutchess1237
      @diamonddutchess1237 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same so i dont know what to do

    • @night._.kitten
      @night._.kitten 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sameeeee , like how do I learn then?

    • @megamushroom
      @megamushroom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@diamonddutchess1237 oh no im so sorry

    • @megamushroom
      @megamushroom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@night._.kitten exactly i agree so hard

  • @welcometohell3002
    @welcometohell3002 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I agree that ignoring bad criticism is good advice, but it doesn't justify the bad criticizer. They shouldn't leave comments like "this art is bad" and "this sucks", because it's rude and the artist has every right to tell them as such.

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      welcome to hell yeah that person is still kinda stupid, but my point was that you can’t always control that stuff.

  • @Suslent
    @Suslent 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The textures on that drawing are just fantastic!

  • @SmallBentoSakura
    @SmallBentoSakura 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    People need to understand that any art from any high or low artist will have flaws in their art piece.Criticism is good not only in the art field but in all fields of work. It’s a way to improve. Shape up and become better.
    I don’t know people are getting too “sensitive“ when it comes to criticism 😓😶

  • @frummy1765
    @frummy1765 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The sad thing is if someone likes an artist and they got criticism, they'll attack the person with the "You can't even draw as good as her!"

  • @wiffywiffy7896
    @wiffywiffy7896 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The art you drew in the video is really well made, I really like the lighting and the way you shade, but you should try to make the foreheads bigger next time look at pictures of how large foreheads usually are also try to study arms and hands more the thumb on the green character’s hand would look better if it was straighter and the other fingers except for the pointing finger and the thumb should be a little bit longer you should also check out how the legs connect to the hips it looks a little strange other then that your drawing is really pleasant to look at and I hope to see more beautiful art like this from you in the future! ^^ (sorry for my bad grammar) (I know this is kind of old, but I wanted to give the advice anyway)

  • @gloomfly
    @gloomfly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just saying something sucks isnt criticism, its just being mean. Saying 'Okay this is awful. The lineart is /xxx/ and you need to /xxx/' Thats criticism.

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the example your giving is constructive criticism! constructive criticism tells what the person is going wrong and/or tells them how to fix it. saying “this sucks” is still technically criticism, just not constructive.

  • @nanaaraj
    @nanaaraj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can totally relate to you. I’m an independent artist from the U.K. working hard to promote my music on the fan base. I’d get criticised by a friend of mine that “you’re acting like Cardi B” , your beat is shit and such a soft rapper”. Funny enough, I don’t copy her exact style and I’m just being myself.
    They’re some rappers who are chilled but some aggressive. Artists are entitled to have their own unique styles they go for. Honestly, I won’t let that affect me as an artist even though I’ve been feeling depressed about it.

  • @gabrielacasapciuc2596
    @gabrielacasapciuc2596 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The most frustrating thing is when an artist criticizes another artist and not even the artist, but other children start attacking the critic saying that they are rude or something, actually now at this point I'm pretty much begging all my friends to give me critique 😅😅

  • @soccern2955
    @soccern2955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The worst part of criticism is when they don’t even know what they are talking about 😂

  • @HoneyPOWMorethanjustahoneypot
    @HoneyPOWMorethanjustahoneypot 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lapis's face looks a bit weird in this drawing

  • @afox1689
    @afox1689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm very open to giving critism to striving artists, but there are many who are so defensive and always take it personal. I was once banned from a discord server because a mod took my critism to heart. I really think new artists have no idea how hard the legitimate art scheme is. I really think it's important the understand their path ahead but they always think I am trying to bring them down.

  • @crystalfanq
    @crystalfanq 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Off topic but
    Why does peridot has 6 fingers?

  • @zaitsu2461
    @zaitsu2461 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Say it louder for the people in the back!
    Okay but I actually love this video and I agree with everything you said here.

  • @cartoon-mashup5150
    @cartoon-mashup5150 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heh well the speedpaint you did here was ironic because i watched one of your videos about art styles and i was like "You know wut, i havent drawn a person in a while, and I've wanted to draw something from steven universe for a while now, why not just draw lapis?" Then i come to watch this video mid of drawing lapis, and your drawing lapis and peridot XD seriously ur like my twin i feel like every speed paint you do is always connected to one of the main shows i watch lol

  • @GardenfRedRoses777
    @GardenfRedRoses777 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Over a year ago, a person I followed on social media commented on one of my art pieces, saying my art made him want to kill himself because it was so horrible.
    I had a huge melt down and I cried myself to sleep for the next two nights. I wanted to give up, however I didn't, and now, a year later, I've drastically improved my art. If you compare my pieces from spring of last year to my recent work, you wouldn't be able to tell they were done by the same artist.

  • @kiwidraws8421
    @kiwidraws8421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you but the thumbnails criticizam is not really critisizam good critisizam is constructive critisizam not “hey this sucks” but whatever floats your boat(no hate)

  • @clownesidesunny
    @clownesidesunny 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why does peridot have 6 fingers on one hand jdmanfndkm
    Other than that thos is some nice art

    • @frummy1765
      @frummy1765 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      holy crap I didn't notice that

  • @doggowithacat5677
    @doggowithacat5677 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This comment thread is for artists who haven't had any criticism from other people online yet, either talk about a certain person's profile picture, or their content, or both!
    If this doesn't get any replies then that's fine too lol

  • @stari616
    @stari616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Saying someone’s art sucks is not constructive criticism, title is clickbait

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gone it is, just not constructive criticsm

    • @analyticaltomato
      @analyticaltomato 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gone it is! It has pointed out a flaw in the drawing, but it doesn’t explain what needs to be done to fix it, so it’s not constructive. It still classifies as criticism.

    • @stari616
      @stari616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's rude

  • @LenaBaby-n4t
    @LenaBaby-n4t 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the drawing you made!!!! Keep it up

  • @pencilshavings2549
    @pencilshavings2549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh wow ur art sucks, u should quit >:0
    In all honesty though, it IS messed up that you said that about someone's art. It IS harmful, and during my early day of art I could a lotta hate, and that constant hate is REALLY damaging and after a while it is very hard to ignore. People are allowed to defend each other, people SHOULD defend each other. What you're saying is okay, could easily turn into bullying. I mean, you saying it's okay.. You're part of the problem, Shellcat.

    • @pencilshavings2549
      @pencilshavings2549 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Avery Reece She literally said that she said that though!

    • @analyticaltomato
      @analyticaltomato 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      artist need to have a thicker skin...

  • @fricka4798
    @fricka4798 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a video about what to do if you run out o stories and stuff to animate?

  • @Wolfydoo
    @Wolfydoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kind of hate if when I say “hey your art could need improvement” and they just say, “well at least im better than you, you can’t make this” like omg I know--
    Also I want to note that I’m SICK of saying to some that needs to improve: “omg ye art is so good maybe the best” because honestly, it’s not

  • @milkyway5358
    @milkyway5358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome Steven Universe pictures, that's my favorite ship

  • @LastyGhost
    @LastyGhost 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There ARE people that will refuse ALL criticism and they'll just say their art is the best, when it clearly isn't.
    I have personally met examples of people whose art is evidently bad, but they will block ANYONE that criticizes them. They only want to be praised, when they actually do not deserve it.
    I'm sorry if I'm posting a link to a thing of mine, but this rant of mine talks about ONE example of someone that only wants to be praised, and will block anybody that criticizes her, as well as telling them in their faces "my art is better than yours" or something like that:
    www.deviantart.com/choonlasty-ghost/journal/Des-The-True-Story-rant-699606385
    (it's over one year old, but still valid in my opinion)
    As for me, regarding criticism, is something I tend to do with many, but don't receive any back. Or, not too much, until I begun sharing my work in the DA Forums, even though it's only "fame for a few seconds". Yet for one of my best works, I was criticized. I don't tend to respond to comments, but I read them, and take to consideration what they say.
    Many to whom I criticized accepted my commentary. I do my best to say what can be wrong in a work, and what can they do for next time or a future remake to such work.

  • @confusedpigmovedchannels5355
    @confusedpigmovedchannels5355 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me: *clicks video*
    Also me: *sees Peridot and Lapis*
    Me again: *likes the video 9 times*

  • @Ultimatelatios54
    @Ultimatelatios54 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    t h a n k y o u
    jfc there was this one guy i dealt with that got triggered over me criticizing the concept of this one piece of art and holy damn was it hilarious. criticism is criticism despite its intentions, and people need to understand that you’re gonna get it if you’re posting your works in places with a fucking comment section which is meant to give FEEDBACK whether it’s positive or not

  • @leokitsune4056
    @leokitsune4056 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if i criticize my own art negatively like saying my own art sucks? Is that ok?

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leo Kitsune it’s your call! but don’t be so hard on yourself that you want to give up

  • @bizzybee7910
    @bizzybee7910 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One time, when I was like....eight.....I corrected someone’s spelling, and then the commenters attacked me

  • @BrenBone
    @BrenBone 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saying something sucks or something is bad is just hate, not criticism

    • @jeang.9745
      @jeang.9745 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hate is a form of criticism

    • @BrenBone
      @BrenBone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jean G. That’s amazing

  • @okazoya
    @okazoya 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i thought you were drawing lapis so I was like nahhh
    then I saw peridot and was like yAY!gAh
    But this is so honestly very true.Many people can be rude, but we all have to except this factor.

  • @SALORISMS
    @SALORISMS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Um so this is the first time i got criticism it was on sketch
    So there's this thing on sketch. tells you do to draw something, you draw it and your art might be featured. So it says to redraw your old art and i did it and my art got featured i was happy, um and people started to (i used to draw with the circale tool big mistake) say stop drawing with the circale tool/put more fur on the head/the old one is better/this is lifeless and i got sad and i said some very stupid stuff that i regret,
    so um the moral of the story don't say stupid stuff
    heres a link to the drawing sketch.sonymobile.com/feed/5ee8f71c-2f85-4ed7-9df9-7432423f1ce1
    i'm bad at telling storys

  • @FuraPurble
    @FuraPurble 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aww Lapis and Peridot speedpaint :÷

  • @pastrymei
    @pastrymei 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have criticism to my close friend once, and she deleted my comment. It made me a bit mad because she’s dodging her flaws and only containing the complimentary comments, which is a bit biased in my opinion? I didn’t say anything offensive.

  • @Cyfer2178
    @Cyfer2178 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i make youtube videos, and no criticism stops me. I post for fun, not for people to like it

  • @galactaofthestars9236
    @galactaofthestars9236 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice lapidot drawing.

  • @gracieg2358
    @gracieg2358 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    100% truth!

  • @faeryish7745
    @faeryish7745 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Preach sis 😩👏🏻

  • @dyrwynmatthews9294
    @dyrwynmatthews9294 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:23 to 8:01 is actually right

  • @fionaanimates8692
    @fionaanimates8692 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well said!

  • @MillyKKitty
    @MillyKKitty 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *Hey I don't like your videos, they're bad*
    Me: Can you tell me why they are bad?
    *never answers me back*

    • @justsyd7336
      @justsyd7336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *_e x a c t l y_*

  • @qw3ertysprink689
    @qw3ertysprink689 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew you were drawing Steven universe

  • @kingasaini8104
    @kingasaini8104 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there! I just came across your channel and i'm very interested. I would like you know what program you use to create your drawings! P.S. They are very good and I love them! I see lots of talent here.

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you!! for this drawing, i used photoshop cc, but i also use paint tool sai for paintings.

    • @kingasaini8104
      @kingasaini8104 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ShellCat Thank you! I really enjoyed watching!

  • @BosuKosu
    @BosuKosu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That speed paint sucks dude

  • @zvev
    @zvev 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    good video, as usual
    unrelated but you should try making your videos 10 minutes or longer, you can fit more ads into it if you do so. (yes, exactly 10 minutes. unlucky how a lot of yours end up just a few seconds less shshfdh)

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      cactipotent YEAH ik i tried to make this ten minutes but i’d rather just rant until i’m finished and usually idk how long that will be, i also cut stuff out usually

  • @SETHDAFORTNITEPLAYER
    @SETHDAFORTNITEPLAYER 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    *le gaasp* LAPIDOT.

  • @rookm1270
    @rookm1270 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    a bit of this is slightly rude in the way you go about some points.. but in general its a good video

  • @dinosuarr6529
    @dinosuarr6529 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo remember me? We used to be friends in 2016 lmaoooo

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      dinosuarr yeah i do!! do you want my discord?

    • @dinosuarr6529
      @dinosuarr6529 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShellCat sure man! UwU

    • @ShellCat
      @ShellCat  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      dinosuarr it’s oh shell no#9252

  • @deedeeanimates2977
    @deedeeanimates2977 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol okay...

  • @valenciaclouds514
    @valenciaclouds514 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    *I SMELL LAPIDOT*

  • @rania8468
    @rania8468 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    SHIIIIIIPPPPP 😂

  • @xXSpongeBroBrownPantzXx
    @xXSpongeBroBrownPantzXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just improve, that’s it

  • @eddiemunsonmybeloved1635
    @eddiemunsonmybeloved1635 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ayyyyyy first one XD