A new way to curve wood
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Okay that curved shelf looks badass. Now I got to get that triangle shaped router bit and give this a try.
5 64ths?
I'm shocked that Americans ever finish high school math with that insane system.
An odd side tangent, but that small pizza table isn't to prevent the pizza from moving perse, it is to prevent the lid from slumping into the cheesy. When you stick a hot pizza in a cardboard box, the steam makes the cardboard flimsy, and that allows it to sag onto the top of your pizza. Therefore, Carmela Vitale invented the plastic table, actually known as a pizza saver. to prevent this from happening while working for Domino's.
Yeah because it's cheaper to chunk a piece of plastic at it rather than using higher quality cardboard boxes.
You know that most of the rest of the world I've seen don't have it at all. They either don't have pizzas quite so large, or thicker cardboard. The table is very american.
@SquintyGears it actually is cheaper, I take it you don't know much about economics. And you're damn right it's American, you're welcome
@@larshoneytoast722 I literally said it's cheaper. everything I said was completely literal. so yeah I am damn right...
I had to go reread myself, but no I didn't put even a hint of sarcasm.
I don't know what mindspace you where in but... it's alright dude, just straight facts here. nothing to stress about.
@SquintyGears ok then the rest of your comment was even more pointless lol and you're still welcome
@@SquintyGears We have them in New Zealand.
I put you, in the bi category.
this was a great video!
Top Tip - @9:35 Clamp the speed square the other way around, so the point is *towards* you. The overhang will help you align the router before it engages with the wood.
Yeah you either get more room up front or when exiting. I like it exiting personally, less seems to go wrong
4:49 happy pride everybody hahahahaha
I like CAD, Cardboard Aided Design! Works with pretty much any medium 😊😊😊
Very interesting and helpful. Thanks.
5/64 of an inch. Do you mean 2mm?
😂😂😂
My father was a Pattern Maker. He made patterns out of wood which would be used to make casts for the final metal/iron etc piece to be made. Most of the pieces he made were gears for large machines and pieces for train engines.
Eventually his entire career was made obsolete by the late 70’s. Unfortunately none our family thought that he could use his amazing woodworking skills to create pieces of art.
The gears he made were beautifully stained and laquered and perfectly round in accordance to specifications. His skill was amazing. He died almost 25 years ago and I miss him every day.
Thanks for sharing
Nice tips
Great video
1.984248 mm
The reveal at 6:25 🤣
The link @8:25 for the online calculator for kerf spacings?
What a weird outro.
Happy pride!
I came for the instruction, I stayed for the squatty potty.
I mean, when you say "metric" people, you really mean "normal" people right? :P
LOL moment....."Save it metric people"!
Came out great!
7:42 saving te metric people:
5/64 ~ 2mm
1.984375mm to be exact.
Cool!
By the way,. what that word "inch" that you continue using actually means?
Excellent little Pride month shout out :) Great video overall, this one's getting bookmarked.
“Fellow Jews know what’s up there” 😂 YUP!
It cannot be said enough times. Glue sticks to end-grain better than it sticks to long-grain. All that matters is surface area. Look at all the boards you use. What is the most obvious trait of *ends* we call end-grain? The surface area is tiny.
Would love your thoughts on Clean Armor UV cured wood finish. It's super expensive, but cures fast. It is worth it?
Things that aren't straight, with a round top, and he puts the circle jig in the bi category? Lincoln St. Woodworks bisexual confirmed?! Happy Pride month everyone!
That bending technique is still used to make braces on acoustic guitars.
You and Rex are my favorites. You don't teach to pros.
I think I'd have the best time in your shops.
Cosman and Wright kinda scare me, they're so good.
The pizza table is to keep the lid from collapsing due to steam so it doesn't mess up the pizza
"Basic tools"
Proceeds to pull out powertools.
what model of Dewalt was that massive router you used and do you know if they still make it.
Strangely enough, you look ahead when sewing to ensure a straight line. 🤷♀️
I didn’t see the online kerf cutting calculator you mentioned in the description. Can you post it?
It wasn't a weird outro. Shut-up, inner Jon's thoughts.
Did you have a tip for good caster wheels? I remember some woodworker promoting some in some video, I think it was you.
When you're measuring, why do you draw two lines?
Oh...I thought this might have shown wood that can be easily bent & twisted after exposure to 150 psi NH3 gas at 70°F in a chamber; 30 min exposure per 0.25" thickness; not to over expose lest the pore structure begins to collapse, similar to steam treatment.
Thanks for another helpful video, LSW! I always enjoy the self-deprecating humor. :-)
I wonder if a slight tilt on the table saw might get the same results as that specialty router bit. It would require 2 passes, but with a sled it would be easy to just flip the board around and turn one angled cut into a V-groove. Might be worth a try. Either way, keep up the goodwoodwork!
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You & Bourbon moth uploaded the same vid within a hour though this was a collab 🧐
You made this Jew laugh, though I think the last time I read right to left was age 13.
you and me both
2:48 the tool is best used to template something that is already curved. Not to establish a new curve.
So I’m wanting to kerf bend hickory (not quite as bent as you bent your walnut but definitely curved) which is perhaps denser than maple so bummer about the cnc bit but I’d rather hear it from you than learn the hard way! I’ll have to accept the ugly kerfs plus I’ll have a top on my curves so it should hide the worst of it. There’s a gorgeous mid mod shelf sold on Pinterest that has hidden pegs to hold towels (if you turned your bent walnut where the grain shows long ways is closer to what I’m thinking) only this inspiration doesn’t have a top to set things on so mine will be slightly different but one thing that makes this inspiration so pretty are the curved sides that die into the back where it’s hung so I’ll make table saw kerf bending work I just hope the hickory will comply🤞🏼. Random, I don’t know if anyone else has dealt with this but YT unsubscribed me from nearly all my woodworking channels I love! I wondered why there weren’t any new updates but my subscription page is flooded with left wing channels I don’t watch, won’t watch and it pisses me off YT would do that
Always enjoy your videos, thanks for the content that you produce. Sorry to be a buzz kill, but I think that the kerf cuts are telegraphing through the surface of the material. It seems to be more noticeable after the finish was applied. I wonder if experimenting with shallower kerfs would eliminate this issue, while still being able to bend to the same radius, possibly with steaming longer, as per the aforementioned Bourbon Moth video?
This was a great video and u did great again
You don’t get to use your micro jig jig clamp system and not show us how it’s made 😂 4:10
You work well with your curved wood. :)
@8:42: I see you; l'chaim ya'll.
Did you say there was a calculator to figure the cuts?
Where can I find one if those router base plates that extends more over the workpiece?
6:44 What about turning the legs upside down and cut the top part in an 5-10 degree angle? Seems better to me!
Another "gotcha" for new woodworkers (and probably why they gripe about accuracy on their jigsaw) is to know to turn off the orbital feature. It's great if you are on a job site notching 2x4s quickly and don't care about getting a clean and splinter-free cut but terrible if you are trying to sneak up on a curve you marked out.
How did you manage to release a wood bending video the same day as Bourbon Moth?
3:00 if you take that strip of wood & cut a small notch/hole in the center of each end. Thread a string into those notches/holes you can tension the string to the curve you want. AKA a bow ruler or drawing bow.
4:30.. talking about your chiseled body.. 5:00.. "this video is all about things that aren't straight".. It's June... Is this some Taylor Swift type hidden message? What are you trying to tell us Jon???
Bro i love my squatty potty
7:40 You should probably switch to metric, it's a superiour system overall ;P
“Save it, metric people.” 😂
@@automaticprojects Nah, we usually get it right the first time because our measurement system is easier to figure out stuff with XD
@@TNH91 I was just laughing at his quote about using 5/64". No one actually thinks the imperial system is better, it's just what we're used to.
I can't believe I've never heard of those jigsaw blades before.
Why a 3d carving bit?
Why not a v carve bit? Then you get a tight point instead of a ball nose point.
To me, this is one of your finest videos. I like learning techniques I can use. Your teaching approach is engaging and entertaining without being over the top. It takes effort for work like this to come across effortlessly and I appreciate what you do.
These videos are delightful. I’ve watched so many woodworking videos on TH-cam over the past 12 years that you would think the genre is completely saturated, but your videos are consistently funny and inspiring.
This is BY FAR the most straight forward, no nonsense woodworking channel i have found to date. And yes it is funny as well.
Love that baiting.... Thanks for the call out during Pride month!
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
Where is the link to the calculator for the curves?
I think this might be the one.
I wasn't getting top energy, colour me a surprised rainbow. Great tips in this video though 😉
Well played
Pine wood isn't boring😂
Pine is fine.
Of course it isn’t. That’s what a drill press is for. 😂
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Hi Jon. I was wondering how you deal with wood moisture. We are both in South Carolina. I’m starting to make projects out of dimensional lumber mostly from a big box. There isn’t much else around me . Any thoughts on moisture in wood in our high humidity area?
Hi, a different John here dropping in to answer your question! I used to live about 30 minutes from where Jon lives, and now I'm just outside of Houston, so I know a thing or two about woodworking in humid climates!
My suggestion is to buy the lumber a couple weeks before you plan to build your project. Stack the lumber in the shop with little strips of wood between each board to allow air movement on all sides. This is called "stickering" the lumber. Let it sit in your shop for a week or two to adjust to the new climate before you start working on the project.
When you can, get to a hardwood lumber dealer to get lumber that has been properly dried and much easier and enjoyable to work with, there are several in that area! Hope that helps!
With all due respect, your teaser title is misleading and almost crosse's the line into dishonesty. "Kerf bending" was taught to me as part of my millwork cabinetmaking apprenticeship in the sixties. And my master cabinetmaker didn't make that claim. I'm sure it must be difficult to differentiate you channel from the hundreds of others, but stretching the facts to draw eyeballs does a disservice to new wanabe woodworkers. Be honest and honor the tradition, all the techniques you use as a hobby "TH-cam" woodworker were perfected
decades and decades and decades prior to you coming upon the scene. Dovetail construction for goodness sake has been found in Egyptian furniture artifact's. There is nothing new in the construction of wood joints, only new machines and processes. So to be helpful may I suggest the next time you are thinking about a catchy title for an episode substitute alternative for new.
@@pauljenkinson8798 you ever kerf bent wood with a tapered carving bit? Didnt think so. Sounds like a new way to me
6:37 The straight lines make the design dead instead of lively. To fix this, on the wide end of the legs, cut an angle on the end either from the 90 degree corner to the curved side, or from the acute corner to the flat side. Either way works, just make it the same on all 3. Then use the wide ends as the tops of the legs and put them together towards the center of the table. Fixed. In the future it might help to doodle or mock up your work before you commit but you probably already know that and you were just doing something bad on purpose to get engagement.
I was just demonstrating a technique without much regard for what anything looked like
Awesome stuff!
One question, any way to accomplish this without the staggered flat sections being apparent in the curve? Or can that only be done with steam bent laminations?
I was going to ask the same thing. It negates a an old school method by not actually being a perfect curve. That curve cannot be sanded to be perfect. The material will become too thin.
4:00 question . Why not using superglue and activator ?
Thank you !
Can get messy and the carpet tape is much faster
@@Lincolnstww will try it for sure!
To help out the spiral router bit, you could take a partial pass with the table saw first, only going about a third to half depth. Should remove a lot of the stress on the bit. Would take some trial and error though to figure out how deep to cut
That would work, I think, but the hassle of having to align on each slot again with the router bit seems like it would be slow and aggravating. I was going to suggest to John that instead of using the fixed base on the router, he use the plunge base, and it has the "rotating steps" to do several partial passes and therefore relieve the stress on the router bit. That's what I would have done, anyway.
@@wackojacko1997 I agree with it being a lot of work to do, but if it saves the bit, probably worth it. Whether you’re using the table saw or plunge router, you’d need a very reliable jig to ensure you’re lining up each cut repeatedly
what wacko jacko said. You have essentially no margin for error if make relief cuts with the table saw. Asking for a disaster
@@wackojacko1997 thats definitely the way to do it. A lot of people don't have a plunge base so I always like to show the most basic way if possible.
Fantastic, I use those pizza savers pointy side up to support things Ive oiled or varnished etc. They leave only the tiniest imperfections, move em over a bit for second coat....done...
Just the best tightest accurate videos, and no need to go " oh...if I buy a $100000 Festool thingy Ill be as good as this guy ( not) - Bruce J. - NZ
Thanks Bruce!
3:50 Put the tape across your T-Shirt first and that will knock down the adhesive strength. Talc or cornstarch if you're snooty, but cotton lint works fine for me.
Always used the same trick. Your t-shirt is always on hand. 👍
My wife would like to hear more about making my wood less boring.
This might be a case of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing on my part, but I am concerned about that sanding attachment on the drill. I know drill press bearings aren't designed to take forces in that direction, and over time, you'll destroy the machine or at least need to replace the bearings. I would expect a hand drill to have similar issues.
Interesting point there. I may have lucked out. I have used my drill press to turn small handles/pulls for drawers and lids. I just bought round dowel stock in brass, copper, even titanium, and I would use files, hack saw blades and Micro Mesh to finish them off. They turned out great, but now I'm wondering if I did more harm than good to my press....?
"JB Smoove". Nice!
Are you kidding me? I been doing this for 50 years.
When cutting a circle, after completing each pass, I like to return in the opposite direction. It keeps the cord from twisting up on itself. Like yours did🙂
Bourbon moth just posted a video about bending wood today too lol
Yes, but did it catch on fire? 😅
Love the human touch - we all make mistakes - meh. Keep moving forward. Beautiful curves by the way! I wonder if that curve technique would be strong enough to be used as a kitchen cabinet bottom, or even cabinet doors, or both. 🖖
Thank you for the superb content and ever-helpful tips couched in wry humor. It’s a delight hearing your thought process and getting ideas for process unencumbered by the limitations of a small (or in my case, entirely portable/storable) shop. I doubt I will ever own a jointer or giant band saw but I certainly want to make good things. That portable spindle sander (sand crawler?) isn’t a bad idea! #stayjustproudoftheline
Thank you kindly!
Those plastic trays in pizza boxes are so that the lid won’t smush onto the pizza so you can stack boxes
Great video Jon definitely going to give the last one a try. Thanks for sharing.
CHALLENGE: "It goes without saying you should use a pencil and not a pen". Ok, why?
I was wondering the same.
I liked how you added Baymax to the shelf. I am satisfied with my care.
Where did you dee Baymax? (Lol). I have him in my wood shop as well 😂
@@christopherchapman8893 The inlay at the end looks like Baymax's eyes.
Is it about 2mm?
If you’re planning on doing a lot of wood bending, then a jig that the router slides in to make the kerf cuts would go a long way in preventing it from wandering.
really enjoy the videos and the learning of new ideas - the many laughs doesn't hurt either - Keep up the great work!!
I love that shelf and you explain the process well for this novice who pretends to be a pro! 😂 I always enjoy your videos!
Glad you like them!
"basic"several hundred dollars of a dozen power tools with specialty attachments
I think that shelf at the end you made would be a great below a wall hung TV console station. Of course, dimensions being the appropriate size to mount to a wall to hold something like a game console, some remotes, etc.
I dont have any woodworking tools (yet) but watching your videos has always been entertaining, thank you. I hope in the future I can put some of these techniques to use.
Thank you very much!
I always wanted to steam bend. I love the idea not to build a steam box. Will be trying that for sure also the router bit is a crazy good idea.
FWIW, the process you talk about, using the screws/nails to put in "posts", then using a thin strip of wood (or metal can do it, too, if it's flexible enough) is called "making a spline curve". If you look up *spline curve* on _Wikipedia,_ that'll give you any more explanation you may want, but just knowing what the term is can be useful -- for example, if you wanted to search on how to make a more complex spline curve, you now know the search term to use. ;-)
Interesting curve technique. Surprised no one thought of it before your compatriot. Well, likely someone did, but didn't share it sufficiently. ;-)