TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:39) RW Johnson on the ANC (04:58) RW Johnson on tribalism (09:48) RW Johnson on Cyril Ramaphosa (11:54) RW Johnson on the EFF (19:47) RW Johnson on SA's fiscal problems (25:13) RW Johnson on the need for a Popular Front (38:42) RW Johnson on the capacity of the state (41:52) RW Johnson on the future of SA as a unitary state (47:41) RW Johnson on secessionist movements (51:28) RW Johnson on self-sufficiency (52:50) Conclusion
The Democratic Alliance needs to work much harder to convince voters in South Afca that they are much better than the ANCommunists and inEFFectual EFFluencers.
With all due respect to mr. Johnson, he's drawing too many comparisons to European politics. We are not only on a different continent, but the culture is also vastly different and that matters a great deal. I'm not able to take his solutions seriously when he says whe can do what France or Spain or Germany did. No sir, we cannot do that
RW Johnson is a ‘no pie in the sky’ type of person & I love it. He speaks reality as raw as possible & doesn’t sell snake oil. He’s right about the potential of the ANC & EFF coalition, I’m surprised more political science experts are not talking about it (especially, with the RET faction in mind). Everything is worse under the ANC, no sugar coating it!!! Keep up the great interviews, very informative & intriguing!
Yes indeed a brilliantly insightful man , if only politicians would listen and learn. It is very sad that our politicians of all parties are immature, narrow vision and unable to focus on what is best for the country at this critical point. The electrical power supply or rather lack of it and all related problems are going to accelerate the collapse of SA by years, solar nor sufficient wind turbines will be in time or add sufficient energy to keep industry going, hence no investment. The country is on the cliff edge . And the majority don’t care as long as they can watch rugby and soccer.
What about the Rtrills white people wrongfully amassed during apartheid...its 30years later and they still swim in a pool of money.Dont shoot the messenger...look around you !!!!
Having stayed four months in South Africa this time, I notice the dominant Black Africans are antagonistic towards even international tourists and residents. The Coloured People show hatred towards the Blacks more obviously. The non-South African Africans blame the SA xenophobia. The White South Africans are more keen to cohabit with everyone else. They realise it's not easy to emigrate any longer. In all fairness, the Black Africans are not trained to manage, maintain, and sustain business development. They still live in the stone age mentality blaming the better offs. No self determination to move forward.
Ja .. he’s an astute and perceptive historian.. interesting view on KZN independence. I also felt they were the most likely to start the move. An alternative government is in my view the strongest USP for the CapeXit guys .. they have modelled their constitution on the Leon Louw / Frances Kendall Swiss type system. I love his realistic non confrontational style, and his passing endorsement of the Afriforum type and local community alternatives. Solutions there are, but they will depend on all of us giving up our naive belief in the fairy tale of politics. If the media don’t stop the endless airing of the political sideshow and showcasing these divisive “newsworthy” gangsters, we may either end up with Julius Hitler, or a series of mafia warlords. Common sense doesn’t make news, but it’s what we need in leadership right now.
We need pragmatism to be the common uniting common denominator for an amalgamation of parties… ie no ideology to detract from the common purpose. The test is … what is best for the country in each specified area… eg. What will be the shortest route to solving a particular problem. ..(no ‘challenges’)
We proposed a 12,000mw Power Purchase Agreement linked to an Eskom Debt Restructuring Proposal . 4 years later the DG at DMRE has instructed to "fast track" the proposal. we are still waiting. The Land Bank has totally failed.
If what mr JOHNSON is putting as alternative namely cluster service the policy of separate development does not seem to be out of tune.Nevertheless what he suggested namely a prior agreement by supportive opposition parties then the DA and their identified partners are on track.They will confer during AUGUST 2023
With all due respect, RW Johnson, the ANC resorting to "arms struggle" was not wrong, nor was it a disaster for the racially oppressed black majority. Mandela gave reasons as to why the ANC finally resorted to adopt the armed struggle. It was the racist and evil Afrikaner government who refused to acknowledged any peaceful dialogue over the table. What other choice did your people give my people after 1948 other than an armed struggle? Other than that minor diasgreement, everything else discussed here is always on point and very insightful.
This is again a pretty aimless talk, ifs, buts, perhaps, a bit like a rudderless ship on a stormy ocean. There is a danger, we must avoid it, but how? There is another threat looming, oh shit, there is something else. It is so sad that we are now declaring the ANC a real threat to the existence of South Africa. The ANC has been around for almost 30 years, we are still around. Infrastructure is in real bad shape, if we can find a shape. However it still sometimes work. All those fools who praised the ANC some 30 odd years ago are no longer around. We are on our own. Taking a Marxist perspective, South Africans now have the right to claim that they are alienated from what was and the promises what was to be. The ANC elite took from the dis-franchised and poor. According to Marx, we the people of South Africa now has the right to annihilate them, thus a reason for a revolution. I am not pleading for a revolution, I am merely regurgitate Marxist rubbish to those who once laid claimed to this right. The rest of South Africa can now claim such a right again. It is clear that we the people have no idea of how to respond to the perceived threat of the ANC. A large portion is happy because they receive a stipend from them, and can party all night, no need to work, no responsibility, with no meaning in life. So other are happy because the ANC has not yet confiscated the little capital they have, the result is a temporal meaning in life, nothing is permanent. Given this uncertainty we the people of South Africa has become rather pessimistic and nihilistic, often hidden behind a mask of hedonistic behaviour. We have become hopeless. Can we get out of this morass of hopelessness? I believe we can. We can only trust in we the people, and as long as our intentions are morally pure we can and will find a solution. This solution will be based on hope, love and respect for each other. From this level we can develop strategies to control evil. If all else fails, we still have Marx on our side.
I don't think it's aimless at all. It's educational and helps people understand how to prepare for a possible future. As was stated, not much in the media about this ANC-EFF possibility....but we hear it here. In the end of the day, change starts with activists of which RWJ has always been in one form or another. No disrespect but it sounds as if you've thrown in the towel already.
@@barrylauth6838 i have thrown in the towel on the current bunch of politicians. If Malema is the best we have then South Africa is in dire straights. I am not saying he is stupid or anything like that, but one would have thought that the revolution is over, the time to annihilate as Marx called it is over, or simply destroying social and economic life is done with. The time to rebuild started in 1994, not 2030 or even 2035. I think the time has come for the new proletariat of South Africa to take the new bourgeois to task, in a very serious manner, because no leader of any party is currently offering any vision, any hope, any prospects of enhancing the economic and social conditions of this country from dreadful misery and squalor to something resembling prosperity. Something that resemble hope for our children cannot be based on abysmal government service delivery, constant fear and growing threats of individual security and economic demise. There is no secret in delivering public services. The simple rule is just do it. It does not matter the colour of the cat (Deng Xiaoping) or the colour of the person. If you do not insist on meritocracy, you get mediocrity. If bribes determine economic policy, then you get poverty for all. Nowhere do I see any leader offering a value system that can satisfy the average need of a individual living in a rainbow nation. Granted, our education system is demonstrably incapable of delivering an average person capable of beginning to understand what multiculturalism is, never mind designing and delivering economic and social policies that are needed to provide for the basic needs of a cultural agglomeration such as ours. Yes, the insights of Mr Johnson is wonderful, even sometimes providing interesting insights, but providing hope, he is merely emphasising facts that were confirmed before all previous elections since 1994. It is the same crap that was speculated about before. The only difference now is that most of all the previous speculations are factually visible and arrived at. This country is not on its way to somewhere, it is there, and it is not Marxist utopia or ANC utopia. It is close to point where it can and will implode into another Zimbabwe. If the proletariat of South Africa is not willing to confront the ANC led bourgeois this country will die like Zimbabwe. Unfortunately the great African trek South has reached its destination, and the bit of wealth that was created up to 1994 is now fast becoming obsolete. Arguing about the current arrangement of deckchairs on the Titanic is really not useful. We all know what happened to that masterpiece. We need a leader that can create hope, not solidify hopelessness.
TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(00:39) RW Johnson on the ANC
(04:58) RW Johnson on tribalism
(09:48) RW Johnson on Cyril Ramaphosa
(11:54) RW Johnson on the EFF
(19:47) RW Johnson on SA's fiscal problems
(25:13) RW Johnson on the need for a Popular Front
(38:42) RW Johnson on the capacity of the state
(41:52) RW Johnson on the future of SA as a unitary state
(47:41) RW Johnson on secessionist movements
(51:28) RW Johnson on self-sufficiency
(52:50) Conclusion
The Democratic Alliance needs to work much harder to convince voters in South Afca that they are much better than the ANCommunists and inEFFectual EFFluencers.
With all due respect to mr. Johnson, he's drawing too many comparisons to European politics. We are not only on a different continent, but the culture is also vastly different and that matters a great deal.
I'm not able to take his solutions seriously when he says whe can do what France or Spain or Germany did. No sir, we cannot do that
RW Johnson is a ‘no pie in the sky’ type of person & I love it. He speaks reality as raw as possible & doesn’t sell snake oil. He’s right about the potential of the ANC & EFF coalition, I’m surprised more political science experts are not talking about it (especially, with the RET faction in mind). Everything is worse under the ANC, no sugar coating it!!!
Keep up the great interviews, very informative & intriguing!
Thank you David for all the interesting interviews that you present and all the hard work that goes into keeping us up to date on current events.
Thank you for watching, Gwen. I also find it fascinating speaking to such interesting guests.
I find this podcast with RW Johnson, very “ educational “.
Thank you .
A very good interview with one of the very best commentators.
Another thought provoking conversation as always.
Heart visibilty more than sight
seeing is needed Thank u fr
Ur insight
RW Johnson is very astute and doesn't give philosophical insights but just matter of fact straight points
Yes indeed a brilliantly insightful man , if only politicians would listen and learn. It is very sad that our politicians of all parties are immature, narrow vision and unable to focus on what is best for the country at this critical point. The electrical power supply or rather lack of it and all related problems are going to accelerate the collapse of SA by years, solar nor sufficient wind turbines will be in time or add sufficient energy to keep industry going, hence no investment. The country is on the cliff edge . And the majority don’t care as long as they can watch rugby and soccer.
Great talk. Thank you
Great interview! Is there anything that is better. Can’t think of one thing. It’s too sad.
44:04
This is the direction where the entire world is heading too
Not only South Africa
That is why cadre deployment and patronage should be made illegal.
Excellent
CR and the ANC accounts and homes must be impounded and monies put into the country.
What about the Rtrills white people wrongfully amassed during apartheid...its 30years later and they still swim in a pool of money.Dont shoot the messenger...look around you !!!!
The DA is a good alternative.
Shoh! Whats the chance a new alternative is put together in time.
Should have the bags packed just incase
Having stayed four months in South Africa this time, I notice the dominant Black Africans are antagonistic towards even international tourists and residents. The Coloured People show hatred towards the Blacks more obviously. The non-South African Africans blame the SA xenophobia. The White South Africans are more keen to cohabit with everyone else. They realise it's not easy to emigrate any longer. In all fairness, the Black Africans are not trained to manage, maintain, and sustain business development. They still live in the stone age mentality blaming the better offs. No self determination to move forward.
You talking BS.
everything mahala free water free houses free electricity free money😅🤣😂
Very interesting👍🏻
Oh dear God what a bleak future - ANC/EFF coalition.
Dude is not shy to disagree. He's a little bit too prickly for my taste but I've enjoyed his takes. Keep em rolling, David. All very interesting :)
He's correct create the illusion of social progress or create an Agressive Police State to suppress opposition movements.
Ja .. he’s an astute and perceptive historian.. interesting view on KZN independence. I also felt they were the most likely to start the move. An alternative government is in my view the strongest USP for the CapeXit guys .. they have modelled their constitution on the Leon Louw / Frances Kendall Swiss type system. I love his realistic non confrontational style, and his passing endorsement of the Afriforum type and local community alternatives. Solutions there are, but they will depend on all of us giving up our naive belief in the fairy tale of politics. If the media don’t stop the endless airing of the political sideshow and showcasing these divisive “newsworthy” gangsters, we may either end up with Julius Hitler, or a series of mafia warlords. Common sense doesn’t make news, but it’s what we need in leadership right now.
The ANC is the problem.
This is what happens when you have the inmates running the asylum!!!
From what RW Johnson is saying, RSA has no future 😳🙈
This December ANC meeting out come will show much clearer direction of SA. CR phala phala saga outcome as well!
It's called Africanization. By numbers. Secession is indeed being sounded everywhere.
You seem less upbeat about SA than previously, RW...
Ever.hearing. Never learning.
Guy has so so many good points let’s listen ANS is not Sa … SA is Sa…….!!
too late, it's already over the edge of no return!
I’ll go with Rob Hersov . #VoetsekANC
We need pragmatism to be the common uniting common denominator for an amalgamation of parties… ie no ideology to detract from the common purpose. The test is … what is best for the country in each specified area… eg. What will be the shortest route to solving a particular problem. ..(no ‘challenges’)
My opinion is that SA is past fixing !!!
We proposed a 12,000mw Power Purchase Agreement linked to an Eskom Debt Restructuring Proposal . 4 years later the DG at DMRE has instructed to "fast track" the proposal. we are still waiting. The Land Bank has totally failed.
The DA politically does most certainly offer an alternative! They have proven it!!!
RW did you make a serious miscalculation about the ANC before 1994?
If what mr JOHNSON is putting as alternative namely cluster service the policy of separate development does not seem to be out of tune.Nevertheless what he suggested namely a prior agreement by supportive opposition parties then the DA and their identified partners are on track.They will confer during AUGUST 2023
Using wild life as e example for social human interactions is actually a brilliant method... l we are animals of course.
He shut that analogy down quite fast. Poor David 😅
The reality of black people in south Africa has always been worse I don't get the narrative of the whole conversation 🤗
Cape Town will never be allowed to have its own electricity. The ANC will do all they can to destabilize any independent attempts for the Cape.
push back harder and keep going.
These dekons plan eho is in.
With all due respect, RW Johnson, the ANC resorting to "arms struggle" was not wrong, nor was it a disaster for the racially oppressed black majority. Mandela gave reasons as to why the ANC finally resorted to adopt the armed struggle. It was the racist and evil Afrikaner government who refused to acknowledged any peaceful dialogue over the table. What other choice did your people give my people after 1948 other than an armed struggle?
Other than that minor diasgreement, everything else discussed here is always on point and very insightful.
Armed struggle? I was there and didn't see any. Sabotage attacks yes but NO armed struggle in any form.
This guys just repeated what all of us see on TV. David he did not even mention the WEF influence on politicians
Saving south africa is saving British interest and that is a no no we are moving towards BRICS, chest pains are coming
This is again a pretty aimless talk, ifs, buts, perhaps, a bit like a rudderless ship on a stormy ocean. There is a danger, we must avoid it, but how? There is another threat looming, oh shit, there is something else. It is so sad that we are now declaring the ANC a real threat to the existence of South Africa. The ANC has been around for almost 30 years, we are still around. Infrastructure is in real bad shape, if we can find a shape. However it still sometimes work. All those fools who praised the ANC some 30 odd years ago are no longer around. We are on our own. Taking a Marxist perspective, South Africans now have the right to claim that they are alienated from what was and the promises what was to be. The ANC elite took from the dis-franchised and poor. According to Marx, we the people of South Africa now has the right to annihilate them, thus a reason for a revolution. I am not pleading for a revolution, I am merely regurgitate Marxist rubbish to those who once laid claimed to this right. The rest of South Africa can now claim such a right again.
It is clear that we the people have no idea of how to respond to the perceived threat of the ANC. A large portion is happy because they receive a stipend from them, and can party all night, no need to work, no responsibility, with no meaning in life. So other are happy because the ANC has not yet confiscated the little capital they have, the result is a temporal meaning in life, nothing is permanent. Given this uncertainty we the people of South Africa has become rather pessimistic and nihilistic, often hidden behind a mask of hedonistic behaviour. We have become hopeless.
Can we get out of this morass of hopelessness? I believe we can. We can only trust in we the people, and as long as our intentions are morally pure we can and will find a solution. This solution will be based on hope, love and respect for each other. From this level we can develop strategies to control evil. If all else fails, we still have Marx on our side.
I don't think it's aimless at all. It's educational and helps people understand how to prepare for a possible future. As was stated, not much in the media about this ANC-EFF possibility....but we hear it here. In the end of the day, change starts with activists of which RWJ has always been in one form or another.
No disrespect but it sounds as if you've thrown in the towel already.
@@barrylauth6838 i have thrown in the towel on the current bunch of politicians. If Malema is the best we have then South Africa is in dire straights. I am not saying he is stupid or anything like that, but one would have thought that the revolution is over, the time to annihilate as Marx called it is over, or simply destroying social and economic life is done with. The time to rebuild started in 1994, not 2030 or even 2035. I think the time has come for the new proletariat of South Africa to take the new bourgeois to task, in a very serious manner, because no leader of any party is currently offering any vision, any hope, any prospects of enhancing the economic and social conditions of this country from dreadful misery and squalor to something resembling prosperity. Something that resemble hope for our children cannot be based on abysmal government service delivery, constant fear and growing threats of individual security and economic demise. There is no secret in delivering public services. The simple rule is just do it. It does not matter the colour of the cat (Deng Xiaoping) or the colour of the person. If you do not insist on meritocracy, you get mediocrity. If bribes determine economic policy, then you get poverty for all. Nowhere do I see any leader offering a value system that can satisfy the average need of a individual living in a rainbow nation. Granted, our education system is demonstrably incapable of delivering an average person capable of beginning to understand what multiculturalism is, never mind designing and delivering economic and social policies that are needed to provide for the basic needs of a cultural agglomeration such as ours. Yes, the insights of Mr Johnson is wonderful, even sometimes providing interesting insights, but providing hope, he is merely emphasising facts that were confirmed before all previous elections since 1994. It is the same crap that was speculated about before. The only difference now is that most of all the previous speculations are factually visible and arrived at. This country is not on its way to somewhere, it is there, and it is not Marxist utopia or ANC utopia. It is close to point where it can and will implode into another Zimbabwe. If the proletariat of South Africa is not willing to confront the ANC led bourgeois this country will die like Zimbabwe. Unfortunately the great African trek South has reached its destination, and the bit of wealth that was created up to 1994 is now fast becoming obsolete. Arguing about the current arrangement of deckchairs on the Titanic is really not useful. We all know what happened to that masterpiece. We need a leader that can create hope, not solidify hopelessness.
38:00 Bingo! - @Our_DA?