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This feels like when a random mobile game you've never played before gets an Assasins Creed crossover
Comments like this makes me smile. Thanks.
It’s not MTG anymore its called Universes Commander now
Universes Gather: Commander Trading Card Game
Same thing with Monopoly
Hot Commander Topicpop : the GameStop Gathering
That sounds like a format variation of Commander. WOTC will most likely capitalize on that idea beyond 2026. Their main market would most likely be new players who are fans of these other properties. On the one hand, I have no problems about this so we can grow the fan base, but my concern for the longest time is the inflation of prices with the issue of card quality (I.e. warped cards in PREMIUM SET?)
Nicholas bolas' biggest mistake was not planeswalking to middle earth to get the one ring and some orcish bowmasters for total domination
I'm crying, Mark really said "Remaster these nuts" lmao
he went full on Leslie Chow. lol
I don't know who he is but I respect him for saying that
Finally some voice of reason! Great video Mark, you had me cracking up😂
I can't believe people are ok with monthly 400$ reprint sets and gimmicky IP crossovers. The "Magic" is gone.
Agreed.
I'm more distressed about players feeling like they are "forced" to buy these products. What exactly did the guy in the video mean when he said that?
"The Gathering" is about to lose steam, as well.
@@TunnelSnakesrule13 It doesn't matter if you buy them. At the end of the day people are going to use these cards against you.
I appreciate you’re perspective. Many MTG TH-camrs are irrationally positive or negative, both feeling fake. You seem to genuinely feel how you feel, which is unhappy with the direction of the game…which connects with a lot of disgruntled players and collectors.
Love how he said he’s a LOTR fan then listed George R.R Martin , John snow , and long claw 😂😂😂
Time Spiral: Remastered was a thoughtful homage to Magic history. They nailed the product run, the number of variants, and the pull rate of variants. /Chef's kiss emoji
TSR proved you could have a $2 Ponder and a $400 Ponder. Instead of perfecting this model for collectors, they lost their damn minds and created the schizophrenic caricature that was Dominaria: Remastered.
Universes beyond is straight out of the Hasbro corporate strategy. Have you seen how many Monopoly themes there are? There is literally even a version of Monopoly thats themed like Target (the store). Just wait until we get Wal Mart themed commander decks!
Didn't really think about this at first. I wonder what this costs to "join forces" with these different stories and IPs. 🤔
We may finally get that Taco Bell vs KFC commander set with cards that double as coupons.
Im happy MTG is still around. Many ppl can be sad or mad about what's going on and are doing but its whatever, Ill be happy with a product or two here and there and ignore the bulk I dont care about and not dwell on it. Its incredible that MTG has been around for 30 years and more coming, that is something to be happy about whether or not we dont like alot that they poop out. It would be impossible to produce every product that everyone loves all the time year in and year out...
The only reason they have been around for 30 years is because they didn't do stupid stuff like this
That would be subjective though. To some they have been doing "this stupid stuff" for many years already.
I don't expect to like every product. They're not even trying anymore. It's just an unrecognizable corporate cash grab. Gimmicks and lottery cards. It's all remastered sets and UB avengers bullshit. This new 3 year release plan is NUTS! I couldn't even find anything original they created amongst the diluted Marvel soup to dislike if I wanted. I would be excited if they made actual new MTG, even if I hated it.
The problem is the pure amount of product. If you run a squirrel deck let's say and ignore a release or two, it's very likely that now your deck sucks because of all the cards released and such. I'm starting to look elsewhere on collectibles and where to spend disposable income.
@@EdwinRosario432 all you have to do is check scryfall for that type. Not sure why a deck would all of a sudden suck, but yes could be improved on that's the great part is old decks won't be stale. Good luck on your collectible hunting 👍
The signal to noise ratio with Magic is just ridiculous. I've been playing since 1994 and I gave up on the game a few years ago because I just didn't care to continue trying to keep up with it. It just isn't worth it for, at most, a weekly commander game or three.
As you mentioned, engage with what you like is BS, because you can't just have blind spots as to the card pool available and if I can't even know the cards I don't want to play. Meanwhile my video game backlog is getting some much needed attention and, gasp, I've been able to read more books.
Preach sir. Creativity of actual planes & not jump the shark.
I’m not a magic player or collector. I’m a normie and I’m excited for the fallout and assassins creed sets. Seems like something fun for me to collect. Then I looked into outlaws and now I’m looking forward to that set. Who knows, maybe these sets gets me into magic proper?
Yep. These people are just being overly negative. There are always bad things, but also plenty of good things to come. Don't listen to negative nancies. Proxy the cards if you can't afford them. It's fine.
I don't mean to be rude, but the bandwagon you're looking to hop onto will likely be overturned in a ditch by the time these sets hit.
@@providencebreaker1558 Or maybe not.
Same honestly while I might not be the biggest Assassins Creed fan I'm beyond Excited for the Fallout releases.
I now decide which products I engage with for sealed products: this year is only Wilds of Eldraine for me. Next year will be Murders at Karlov Manor (Massacre Girl and Ravnica), Outlaws of Thunder Junction (Firefly vibes) and Bloomburrow (like Lorwyn but cute). The only IP which I would love to see in a Secret Lair drop is Jem and the Hollograms, but I don't buy any UB and won't do it in the future. Since Dominaria United, I have only bought the few singles I need in each set, nothing more
@@RetireandGoMy magic collection used to have value until people kept crying for reprints. I used to literally be able to get rid of a couple of good duplicates to go get what I wanted with cash, now it's just store credit.
I miss magic having its own identity. I miss building a binder for a set.
Rare doesnt feel rare when there are 4 or 5 - or more? I cant keep track - variants of a card.
Yeah, WotC, in their relentless profit chase, jumped the Shark with Mythic editions, and have been jumping over the Shark jumper ever since.
Nailed it
Been playing m:tg since 95, played in many competitive tournaments within the legacy scene. Quit in 2018 thinking that I wouldn't get into another TCG. Then I discovered Flesh and Blood with it's lower variance, and non-rotating tournament format and I'm right back in! One new set every 3 months, and zero sets rotating out, so great for investors and players.
"Why don't you remaster these nuts!"
*hits the subscribe button*
I'll be releasing my videos on this soon (it might have to split into 2 parts for length), but I definitely have mixed feelings about this release schedule overall. There are several high notes, but the other IPs being taken too far starts to feel like what happened to MageKnight and HeroClix.
WOTC is no longer marketing MTG to us veteran players, and probably never will. The MTG you grew up with, is a thing of the past.
On a positive note it's a great time to be alive if you're interested mostly in limited. Set design for draft and sealed has been pretty great lately compared to how it used to be.
While i fully agree with everything you are saying. the lord of the rings set did create new magic players. (i know 2 or 3 personally) I don't see that working with every IP. but i do get their market strategy. The new price point paired with the frequency of the releases is what is AWFUL.
I wonder how many they lost. Because the IP cross over wasn’t cheap. What is the net new players because on my side things like LOTR and aftermath seemed to have bled players. Our store now runs 15 people events every other week for grand archive. And at least 7 of those players are all MTG players spending less time on MTG and playing GA now.
@@SolarGamesllcIf they lost a lot of players, they wouldn't keep making crossovers.
I think Bloomburrow is going to be MTG's take on the Redwall books. Badgers and mice at war like soldiers and knights! Great books if you've never heard of them Mark- you should check em out! I think this will be a really great set :)
You pointed at that painting and I got some nostalgia 😢
I was looking at my foil 7th Ed. Thorn elemental… another great RK Post card.
I can't wait for MTG teletubbies set!
Well said....but I'm an old guy. WOTC clearly doesn't want my money and that sucks. I've been playing since Unlimited. I'm over it though. They can never take Old School away from me and now that Sorcery is out Erik's Curiosa can have all the money I would have spent on new MTG.
When I was a kid, my friend from school went to summer camp with the son of somebody who worked for WOTC. He told me they had the story written all the way to the defeat of Bolas, and the plan was to begin incorporating outside IPs after that. This was Magic's fate from the beginning. Garfield's original story, I guess, could only take the product so far, and now we'll be stuck revisiting old planes and dealing with non-M:TG characters.
I'm happy when a MtG set comes out that I can skip. I would rather focus on buying Alpha / Beta / Unlimited / Arabian Nights / Antiquities & Legends cards. Let the new players enjoy the new stuff.
When they made the March of the Machines: Aftermath mini set was when I started pulling back on my box purchases. 5 card boosters?!?! What were they thinking? Not fun. I've totally avoided LOTR and the Commander Masters sets this summer. They've got to get back to their roots. Hopefully Wilds of Eldraine and Caverns of Ixalan will help. Like you said, though, it's all about the quality of the cards. I think they also misstepped with the 3 year rotation experiment. No one wants to see Sheoldred and a bunch of sweeper control decks for another year.
Good points, I bought a few flesh and blood decks and displays instead of magic this year.
I LOVE magic and I have to say that the amount of product is absolutely sick and no one can keep up with it, except the players who don't have to worry about money.
I started with proxies the last year and I have to say that was a game changer for me. I started with Just proxiing what I have but that changed this year, because it is way too much and not affordable any more. So we (my playgroup) play very strong decks for nearly no money (in comparison). That's our way to solve the problem and we are not supporting wizards any more. We are sick to pump such crazy amount of money into cardboard. And they milk the community like crazy, we have to change that
Proxies are great! Interact with the product as you want. Do rule 0. Buy what you like and ignore what you don't.
Richard from the MTG podcast made a good point regarding the universes beyond thing; If the focus of MTG becomes adopting other IPs to attract players at the expense of other aspects of the game, then it runs the risk of having the only thing that makes Magic attractive something that can be easily duplicated and undercut by any other TCG. He made the example of Lorecanna, if tomorrow Disney decides they want to start incorporating other IPs into their TCG they will easily cannibalize all magic potential universes beyond options. Disney has way more connections, influence and money thus would easily be able to leverage their status to attract everyone to make crossover products with them instead of Hasbro.
I am waiting for Smurfs, PawPatrol and Teletubbies Editions in 2026
You forgot coco melon and baby shark
I'd hate to say this, but I quit playing and purchasing MTG products a few months ago (after Phyrexia: ONE). I've pumped out money and tuned commander decks to try and win to no avail. I wasted many hours, dollars, and energy with the hopes of winning at least one or two games a night with nothing. Mark, you are a very astute and intelligent person and your comments are a realistic reflection of what me and the other close MTG players I know feel. We have families, and other financial obligations that occupy our time and money and we are increasing the gap between our time and playing MTG. If WOTC reduced production output, then the MTG lifestyle would be rewarding and more appealing. Cards that held a high value based on market price, have dropped in value as well, so where is the appeal now?
See you are approaching the game with a competitive mindset. MTG is now cathering to casual / Commander players. I play to have fun with 3+ other people i've never met before and maybe get a beer after. I don't play to win. Doesn't mean i don't win, I do quite often, but this doesn't determine if I have fun or not.
If you play Commander then you aren't playing right. Come on down to the octagon and 1v1 me bro.
It's much easier to win in 1v1 because bum draws happen and even awful decks can capitalize on the opportunity
@@TunnelSnakesrule13 Commander is way funnier / social / political and engaging imo. So much more potential.
Okay, use proxies.
At this point, I've given up on TCGs entirely, at least in terms of obtaining officially printed cards. I loathe collecting and trading; I'm always looking at prices and waiting for reprints when all I want to do is play the game. I've started producing proxies and will keep doing so until a game comes around that doesn't beat on the collector drum.
As a standard only arena player who isn't really into paper collections... the next few years are looking really bleak for magic! Don't get me wrong... I've played since year 1 in paper, just don't collect for value or care much for expensive cards in my (and my friends) casual play decks! Appreciate you calling them (Wizards) out on all this! Cheers!
With these upcoming tie ups, I'm predicting a set much like modern horizons, but for universes beyond.
I don’t know. I think there is value getting people from the outside. 40K and lotr brought in so many new people who were happier to just play.
The harsh reality is Cynthia seems to exactly know what she is doing mtg made record sales with lotr!
You’re missing it. It’s not about getting new players from things like Fallout. They’re trying to make MTG a “Lifestyle Brand” like they did with D&D. Because there are people who will just buy because “Oh neat it has my favorite IP on it”
Engage with the products you like only applies when you're not intentionally power creeping to sell packs, intentionally printing in demand cards, intentionally printing total bomb sauce that players are GOING to want and need to keep up with the jones's. They know exactly what they're doing. One hand in action while the other washes the back kind of deal. "Just participate in the products you like or are relevant to you, that's all!" Even though they know DAMN WELL that's every product with the way they print staples and powerhouses. You don't have to participate in every product...meanwhile every product *haymaker* *haymaker* *haymaker* Like ya ok guy, every color keeps getting commander and modern bombs I need to keep up with, skip my ass!
Every SINGLE card game BUT Magic has adjusted for the market. The gravy train of 2019-2020 is over. Economy is in massive recession and getting worse on interest rates...there's no more free money. Wizards and Hasbro are the only ones ignoring it thinking it's endless and saying go more, go harder, more money, push it. Everyone I know is like bro slow the hell down! Not Wizards...push it until it breaks! They'll have their retirement bonuses anyway just in time for a major crash...and when it does crash...they'll dip and be like peace! Guaranteed...
Question: how then do you attract new players that are not thrilled with the classic edgy and dark D&D aesthetic? As long as the functional elements of the card game are in tact, why does it matter is some sets have a different aesthetic?
WotC could do a preorder for reprints. If people are willing to buy 100,000 boxes in advance. They can decide to reprint that many boxes, or more. They give a list of guaranteed reprints, and maybe a few additional cards. This method would be more cost effective, and keep supply inline with demand.
This is all Hasbro's fault. I learned a while ago that most bigger businesses have the mentality "If we're not growing, we're dying" and since Hasbro got involved, that explains a lot of what is happening. Most rich people only care about getting richer and if they aren't getting richer, it's wrong. It's such a flawed way of thinking but that's corporate America in a nutshell
Great points. Well said 🤘
Can I ask what harm does this actually do to MtG as a whole?
You mentioned that you were interested in some of the actual MtG sets that were announced. Harping on the Universes Beyond stuff just kinda feels super entitled. Don’t get me wrong there is a lot of product coming this next year but it doesn’t mean there aren’t actual magic sets being released. This isn’t the year of solely “universe beyond, reprint re/masters sets”.
WotC is just broadening their reach which, to me atleast, seems good for their IP as a whole. More players, more eyes, more intrigue. Thing is that I feel people who share a similar sentiment as you are tackling this from a “Magic should just be Magic” but lets face it.
With the massive success that was LotR and the publicity it had generated. WotC would be shooting themselves in the foot if they choose not to mimic that sort of success. I for one do not really care for these cross overs because at no point did I ever feel “this is pandering” or “this doesn’t feel like magic”. Maybe it is just me but I genuinely do not understand the criticism.
i enjoy opening packs, but I've decided that opening standard packs is no longer for me, ill be saving money for universes beyond commander products and attached collector packs in addition to a good remastered/masters set or commander set instead of blindly buying like i used too
Thanks mark! Top notch content as always. I too am slowing down or will only be engaging in a few sets and old cards (phyrexia, BRO, reserve list). Will be giving FAB a shot as I have some of Rudy’s patreon kits collecting dust in my closet…cheers man
I’ll buy some Wilds of
Eldraine because I loved the first Eldraine set, but no way will I be throwing multiple thousands of dollars at any set moving forward like I have before
And this is the type of stuff that WOTC doesn’t see. They don’t realize how much they are losing by acquiring more players.
@@SolarGamesllc so very true
@SolarGamesllc Also why buy sealed ever again if there is gonna be nonstop remastered sets I think its singles only going forward. I guess I will be saving money atleast.
Original Timespiral block sealed prices have tanked since the remaster, it seems the same will occur with ravnica and innistrad
I haven’t been hardcore into magic ever since block constructed died. I like continuity and immersion, block constructed games ensured everything in a game let me immerse myself in the fantasy of the game. While standard and modern are fine formats and I did play them, they weren’t formats that would keep me in the hobby. I’ve lingered on since block constructed died as a draft player….but they killed draft too. It makes no sense to play other pods with your draft deck….it kills half the strategy of picking. I’ve since migrated over to table top games where I’m free to immerse myself in fantasy again that I haven’t felt since played block constructed.
Fundamentally, Hasbro/WotC identified the need to attract new players, likely based on projected player churn, in order to continue to drive higher profits. This is in essence their strategy for company growth. They're predicting player churn over the next several years and are relying on new IPs to generate new players to stay ahead of the losses.
Fundamentally I think they didn’t understand why they were losing players to begin with. And this push to attract new players is pushing old players away. Maybe that was always the plan…
I don’t understand why everyone is so upset with magic the gathering when literally a core part of the game is traveling realms of existence.
Just seeing how they basically told their player base to "fuck off" with their latest round of "bans", was proof enough they don't care.
Modern: The Ultimate Horizons, damn now that sounds way like Star Trek's slogan of Space, the final frontier. It feels like you said, also a reason I quit playing on Arena. I don't want to spend hours to grind games for wildcards or buy digital packs there to constantly upgrade my decks. There were times I had a win rate of about 55-60% with several decks, two releases further it went down to 30%. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous if you don't have the latest cards you keep losing. No fun there.
I started in 1994. I played for about 5 years, then life happened and I got out of it. Just got back in this year, what a crap show this is. I miss the old days. I know, go away Boomer. Im Gen X by the way lol.
Can you put a level on your frame in the next vid? I need to confirm something.
The big issue is that it feels like Commander has been broken with the massive glut of cards that have hit the market. Their are just wonky game mechanics enabled that completely deconstruct the typical running and tempo of Commander games. I don't mean fast mana infinite either. Casual deck play is getting broken by random cards that are enabled by the power creep seemingly gross design violation of the cards themselves.
Very well summed up the matter. I've already sold my collection and now even probably going to piece out /sell my remaining decks. I was already mostly done by the point of TWD issues, but it's just kept getting worse to the point that the game I fell in love with is no longer itself and the company doesn't give a shit. Flesh and blood is pretty fun, I'll see y'all there.
I saw a bunch of LotR people that were really into the MTG release, including some of the biggest LotR TH-camrs. Of course that's anecdotal, but is there any data to support the idea that Tales of Middle Earth wasn't successful at bringing in new players from the LotR fandom? I think there is a big difference between putting LotR IP on a game platform like MTG and putting it on a Hot Pocket. There's a ton of art and flavor involved, the gameplay works really well to help bring the story to an interactive tabletop format, and the collectible nature is spot on.
Not sure how much of the announcements you watched, but the Murder at Karlov Manor is set in Ravnica and will have a sort of Clue/murder mystery vibe, which is at least something new. And I don't think Duskmourn is going to be anything like Phyrexia - it's a 1970s/80s horror theme set in a signle giant haunted mansion. Not saying that wont' be cool, just that it's not going to be Phyrexia.
I think BloomBurrow looks awesome. I don't know why, definitely not anything to do with furries? I just love the idea - reminds me of Redwall and some of those fantasy books I used to read as a kid. I like the idea of expanding support for animal tribe decks, like squirrels, rats, etc. Not going to have anything to do with Duskmourn, though I don't think.
Lastly, you're totally on point about the "only engage with the products you like" concept with a TCG. That's a really good point - the product we want to engage with is MTG, don't tell us we should pick and choose which parts. It's all connected, and it's supposed to be collectible.
Jumpstart is done. It will not be printed anymore. That's why you have the special cards in Eldraine. They were supposed to be Jumpstart cards.
Looks like a decent lineup for the year, as long as they tone down the price-gouging. Bloomburrow looks cool, and I'm cautiously optimistic about the rest. And say all you want about IP crossovers, but they actually work to bring in new players🤷♂️
The pricing was never the problem. They need to provide long-term value to those purchasing their products. Give people that and they won't be nearly as "price sensitive"
@@Syne111pricing definitely part of the problem.. when it's high enough that it's a barrier to entry. But I do agree with needing long term value.
I just got back into the game, thanks to my brother and some friends that like Commander, and I feel like this is the worst possible time to do that. Everything is ridiculously expensive in comparison to when I last paid attention to prices. A pack was like 4 bucks? And there was only one kind of them as well.
As for crossovers, I actually liked the LotR Set (as a fan of both) and I feel like it fits well enough. As for some of the ones I heard about, and the upcoming Fallout one: I agree with your opinion there.
I can just hope the deluge of cards and packs eventually results in prices dropping... Or else I might fall off the bandwagon as fast as I climbed on it again.
Use proxies.
That doesn't help me when I want to draft. Also ignoring the problem doesn't solve the problem @@lum26akua28
Also, my wife and I are lord of the rings fans and we did exactly what you’re saying people won’t do: we bought the LOTR battle decks and have been learning the game that way 😅
My ex is going to teach my teen with the Doctor Who decks.
This is a good video, because you say what you feel. Thanks for sharing.
MH3 with the ULTIMATE GRIEF!!!
"Exile a blackncard frim gour hand, target olayer discards their hand, then special summon ULTIMATE GRIEF form your GY innface up attack position"
6/6
Can't wait!
I can't wait to build a Tifa Lockhart bounce commander deck.
I love Fallout, but I don't want it in Magic. It will be too expensive anyway. It sux Magic games now are like a Super Smash Bros game.
I think they do know they’re bleeding people that’s probably why they did such a huge hype announcement
I’m sorry you feel that way but there is people that feel differently and war hammer and lord of the rings is proof that if they make a good product fans will buy it… I’m excited for fall out and final fantasy cause I love those games and magic and am excited to use those different IPs to get other friends and family to love MTG with me.
I'm happy that people enjoy MTG. That's the point of the game. But some of us love Magic for its unique story and artwork. I also love many of the UB IPs, but not in MTG. I'm finding it extremely difficult to enjoy the game lately with all its dilution 😢.
Idk dude. These sets arent onboarding new fans, they are just barely keeping the financially exhausted old guard in the game
@@dough4prez The original IP is still there, I’m excited to see a villain set with the worlds now connected. Could be set up for a sweet team up of Magic’s greatest villains and returning to Tarkir. Hope after they give more details on the story going into the next arc brightens the game up for you
@@harrycrumbs I get the exhaustion…just imagine how good this game could grow with some good business decisions and IP growth and not have pissed off their fan bases with greed
@dbuck8781 I've always enjoyed the lore and artwork. Immersion in the story and deckbuilding around themes and tribes is a huge joy, the reason I play actually. I can choose to ignore the flacid Marvel UB Avengers and the anemic SLD products until... I can't. I play the game, and the whole immersion is ruined by this dilution. Playing against Rick, Megatron, Ryu, Bilbo and my little pony isn't fun. This isn't the game I want to play anymore.
Doubleing season is the new atexa which is the new tarmogoyf it seems. That's heart breaking
Wizards/Hasbro tried building vertically and found that they're not too good at doing that and their potential cap is lower than they hoped, so they're going horizontal, the Monopoly route, and bringing in every other IP into their one main product and going wide. Personally I'm done with Magic, selling my stuff aside from a few things, if anything interesting comes up I'm just going to proxy it. Like you said, the game has no self-identity anymore, its identity will now lie in being a platform for other stories, other sandboxes.
I let it go in 2020 and at first I was upset to move away from a game I played since I was 8 years old but now I couldn’t care less. There are other tcgs with better mechanics and great art too.
I'm having more fun with Grand Archive than mtg. It's sad to admit this but it's true
The Beyond Boosters (Assassin Creed) are a way to inject IPs into magic. Stand-alone non draftable booster product
It's nothing more than what Fluxx and Munchkin have done over the last decade.
I am all in with Lorcana i love it i mean not out of magic but hey other mothers have beatifull Daugthers to ...
Yeah good to try it for sure.
Making people think that owning a 246/500 random card is something special is wotc biggest achievement.
Just wait until owning 1/1 of 20000 cards.
Well, in the 90's there was all kinds of ccg competition and none lasted.
I don't mind Universes Beyond but 2, 3, 4, 5 different ones each year is excessive. I like MTG because of MTG and not because of all the crossovers. But I guess I'll just being engaging in only a few products the next few years
"If you Game is GOOD you can sell anything" QFMFT
I worked at wotc in Washington. Mark has no power over any of this. The Hasbro management wants this to happen to get fans of different IPs and different kinds of card collecters into the game. I'm sure he is miserable though, I wouldn't be surprised if he left the company.
Then he should leave and make a stand. The fact that he remains the face of magic and just takes this kind of beating tells me he doesn’t care.
Year 2030: Remastered return of the remastered return of the remastered return of the remastered return of the remastered return of the remastered return to Ravnica. Still no revisit to Alara. Much wow! Much creativiity!
A lot of crappy news here, but at least we got to hear you try to pronounce the word anthropomorphic a few times and that was hilarious.
LOTR was the first set I tried going through to pick out singles and felt like I had developed a mental disorder trying to keep up
One-of-One Pip Boy!
Let's Go!
At what point does MTG become Yugeeoh?
majic is going to turn into the sports card world...... i would be they are going to have like 1/1 10/10 50/50 100/100 250/250 and 500/500 and for chase cards and for them to print cards with value in those slots and not have to worry about tanking to normal card as much. i would be shocked if magic doesnt have at least 5 different numbers cards and the stamp with some color changes between the rarities. they also should make it do u can get the of 500 inserts in set boxes for the first run of boxes. that would make people be much more willing to buy both early on
edit: i actually predicted that when u paused for a sec u were going to say deez nutz......lol
They announced what should have been six years worth of product over the next three years. One could argue that half of the sets announced shouldn't even be products. It's a mess.
Why are they doing this? One only has to look at the mess that was Hasbro's third quarter results. They. Are. Screwed. Gross mismanagement. The only things remotely positive is the sale of E3 and overall magic sales. The E3 sale is a one-off. So they now only have one leg to stand on. Ugh.
At least with innistrad remastered they will finally have to reprint parallel lives! 14 years later eith no reprint is insane... Knowing them though it will get several reprints at once and it will be dirt cheap by the time it releases...
Or. Print triplicate lives… and who need parallel
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Fallout set is awesome. Can't wait for it. Magic seems more exciting nowadays than before. Use proxies to keep the game affordable.
Fallout is definitely a driving force to buy it. Many seem to be skipping on Commander Masters and others to buy Fallout. Seems like a good idea. It isn't bad to have original ideas, visiting new planes is always cool, but Universes Beyond also works really well. Warhammer was super exciting even though I don't play it.
This seems like a pretty boomer take.
I just can't believe they're not calling the Fallout set Tragic the Garnering. I guess nobody in charge of the franchise has actually played the first two games.
@@coolsenjoyer Ehh, you're judging far too quickly. We have seen only 50 cards so far, and we don't know what they had in R&D that never made it. A bit weird of you to say that, but not unusual within Fallout fans.
@@lum26akua28 I don't know how else to put it, the fact that an IP that has a parody of MTG in their early games and they don't lean into it at all when doing a thing with MTG just gives me the vibes that the people in charge don't care or even know about the stuff from before Bethesda took over
@@coolsenjoyer Um. Do you realize only 50 cards out of 200 have been revealed?
Also. What if they just don't wanna do it? Fallout 2 wasn't exactly kind to the Tragic players.
The problem is some people will impulsive buy something just cause it has the image on it.
Pioneer Horizons in 2025? How about Standard Horizons in 2030, standard legal cards printed outside of the 4 main sets.
I saw eldrazi titan in the modern horizon 3 art work
Cards are no longer collectable they are now game pieces 😢
Man, I needed that rant
Magic went completely woke into black Aragorn brokeback mountain type ish. They ran out of ideas for lore which is a really sad thing, because the game have tremendous story background to be built upon. I guess they are too stingy to pay the writers to write them stories. Instead, they went into LGBT wokery and video game nonsense which, I believe, will get them some short term costumers, but in the long run they will lose the fanbase who played the game for its uniqeness and lore.
What people dont understand is they may be driving veteran players away but they dont care bc the new players will stay until they get fed up like the old players are now, there will always be new players to keep them going forward and thats who they are using and banking on its like the best new thing everyone loves until the next best new thing and that cycle just continues..theres too many new players everyday and investors that dont care about the game as much as veterans that will keep the money flowing thats what we are seeing them catering too
People are going to come back to this video and say “you where so right.”
"I don't care if it's a fury set or not" - Bro, these people have you by the nuts. Look around, it's this way because everyone was too afraid to judge.
Hasbro added more fuel to the dumpster fire. They just got caught with AI art in their D&D books on Twitter
2024 looks like a good year for everyone's wallet! Wizards can go sell cards to little kiddies now!
In terms of bringing other IP to the game, I can see it being fun as a promo or a unglued set, but as a staple, I hate. I want Magic to be Magic. Those other ips are great for other table top games.
So it's Weiss now with better mechanics... But also... Just not feeling it. I will definitely stick with magic IP sets but they've done enough crossovers that I'm just not interested anymore, a couple is kind of exciting, every other set is just ... I dunno, I'm not really sad or angry just becoming indifferent
Magic is Jumanji. It looks like it might be an interesting game until it sucks you in and you become the game piece.
The only reason any new card game is selling is because of Fomo.... everyone wants that "alpha" set after watching Rudy and what happened to Mtg. It won't happen again!