The main takeaway away for beginners should always be, dont be trying this kind of lift with significant weight. This is something elite level lifter do to gain that extra few percentage of performance, and its also if your body type fits. Certain body types can get away with this. Lift smart and lift safe remember just because its on youtube doesnt means its the best
@@Jeneric81 yep, I've been doing this for a little while now and I've felt much less strain on my lower back and never had any of the pain I occasionally got when deadlifting too much before. Even if I deadlift the day after heavy squats I'm fine (though I might cry a little when I'm walking down the stairs to go home)
@@Pentagathusosaurus ong same bro. I always hated deadlifts because with a neutral spine, it just didn't feel right, and I gassed out so fast idek why. But I stated doing this and my lower back doesn't feel strained at all
basically think of curling the front of your hip (up and towards abs), anchor them to your abdominal wall. Keep curling them up, once you feel your abs bend in the middle of your abdominal wall, your hips are anchored. More importantly what you should feel once your abdominal wall bends is that your abdominal wall is pressing in and propping up your spine (providing an anchor point for the spine).
@@fairmonkey212I suggest you look up Jamal Browner deadlift and look at his technique. We are taught that rounding the spine is wrong, but you won't find any deadlifter pulling over 700 lbs that keeps a back arch. If anything I've seen more people injured by trying to arch their back and driving with their legs than people rounding. Rounding is perfectly ok as long as you are braced like I explained above. A good way to look at the brace is to think about doing a plank (one where your hips are tucked and back isn't arched).
People in the comment act like a deadlifting with a rounded back is the most dangerous thing in the world. Just do what feels right for you and experiment with moderate weight
My issue with these videos is that the majority of people watching are amateur bodybuilders or powerlifters or just regular gym goers. Instead of teaching the majority to do the safe thing, he’s teaching techniques meant for a very small group of people that probably already have coaches and trainers.
@@BaldKiwi117 What disclaimer? Where? He just says ‘most’ and ‘some elite powerlifters’… making the technique appear prestigious. If the video had started with ‘This technique is not recommended without blah blah blah’ then sure, but there is no such message…
It's literally like the natural way people would do stuff turns out to be the best, it's always no knees over toes , don't arch your back and they always turn out to be the best way
Me too. People love to comment but ever since I stopped trying to exaggerate the “straight back”, I have way less lower back pain, if any, and am able to pull more weight.
i lift with the slight rounded back - anyways, don't squat your deadlift - it's natural to round the back when picking something up- i have been doing it for years
I just found out today when my trainer pointed out that my upper back rounds when deadlifting, lower was fine. Looks like I have been doing thoracic rounding all along these 5/6 years.
@@Ipherix I’m impressed that I’ve never heard that before. I’m sad that it was so weak that no one ever used it before (had this handle for over 20 years, young one) LOL 😂
no need to even try to force backways its not naturally obliged weakens it in ways ylu dont understand. once you stsrt pendalay or purposely straitening without working out the extroverted portion your chances of injury then increase as your bodys not used to those positions when maybe picking something up or jumping barriers
think of workouts as your the first person trying it every time. but everytime you take the knowledge of the last attempt like naruto that is scientific lifting.
the bar moves around slightly when its on the ground with weights on it. you pull up slightly until the bar doesnt move and then you start the actually deadliftm
how is it high risk when he clearly states its not a problem as long as ur lower back is not the part that is rounded?... doing this technique is what eliminated my back pain when deadlifting because it fit much better for my biomechanics especially since i have t Rex arms. high risk very low reward my butthole bro
Because we want to pull the most weights and we can always do stuff like facepulls or general upper back work for posture (or just consciously try to enforce it until it's engrained into our body).
im sorry that you got butthurt over simply doing something that fits someone else's biomechanics better 7 months ago i hope you stick to ur word and say the same when u realize eddie hall deadlifts the same way
id take proven research over ur broscience opinion any day bro. rounding my upper back has made the deadlift more efficient for me and a lot more pain free
The main takeaway away for beginners should always be, dont be trying this kind of lift with significant weight. This is something elite level lifter do to gain that extra few percentage of performance, and its also if your body type fits. Certain body types can get away with this.
Lift smart and lift safe remember just because its on youtube doesnt means its the best
I tried this technique today. Deadlift is not my best lift, but following your advice really help me out and it felt really good.
Film your lifts, make sure it looks like the second example. It's hard to tell mid lift due to the stress on the cns during a squat
Please don't attempt this if you're an amateur
Instructions unclear. Paraplegic lifter now
It's not any more dangerous for an amateur.
Loser mentality, don't be afraid to learn.
@@Jeneric81 yep, I've been doing this for a little while now and I've felt much less strain on my lower back and never had any of the pain I occasionally got when deadlifting too much before. Even if I deadlift the day after heavy squats I'm fine (though I might cry a little when I'm walking down the stairs to go home)
@@Pentagathusosaurus ong same bro. I always hated deadlifts because with a neutral spine, it just didn't feel right, and I gassed out so fast idek why. But I stated doing this and my lower back doesn't feel strained at all
like the video mentions, it takes load off your lower back. works well for some people. especially for those who might have a longer torso.
you should explain "hips are anchored" somewhere
basically think of curling the front of your hip (up and towards abs), anchor them to your abdominal wall. Keep curling them up, once you feel your abs bend in the middle of your abdominal wall, your hips are anchored. More importantly what you should feel once your abdominal wall bends is that your abdominal wall is pressing in and propping up your spine (providing an anchor point for the spine).
@@brunonator"curling your hips" just makes my lower back want to bend in the way its not meant to tho... do you have any other cues?
@@fairmonkey212I suggest you look up Jamal Browner deadlift and look at his technique. We are taught that rounding the spine is wrong, but you won't find any deadlifter pulling over 700 lbs that keeps a back arch. If anything I've seen more people injured by trying to arch their back and driving with their legs than people rounding. Rounding is perfectly ok as long as you are braced like I explained above. A good way to look at the brace is to think about doing a plank (one where your hips are tucked and back isn't arched).
People in the comment act like a deadlifting with a rounded back is the most dangerous thing in the world. Just do what feels right for you and experiment with moderate weight
It still gives me the heebie jeebies seeing a rounded back like that. Idgaf what the research says.
Agreed
Agreed
@@kjowl-3 agreed
@@andrewkim2804 agreed 🫡
Disagreed
My issue with these videos is that the majority of people watching are amateur bodybuilders or powerlifters or just regular gym goers. Instead of teaching the majority to do the safe thing, he’s teaching techniques meant for a very small group of people that probably already have coaches and trainers.
Coz for most amateurs they'll round their lower back, this upper back rounding technique needs a lot of practice
@@humanjerky yeah and he even said that only some people can do it
@@og_frames4199 Doesn’t stop it from inspiring people to do foolish things
@@oldvlognewtricks ok and? He made the disclaimer. If people want to go to snap city then let them.
@@BaldKiwi117 What disclaimer? Where? He just says ‘most’ and ‘some elite powerlifters’… making the technique appear prestigious.
If the video had started with ‘This technique is not recommended without blah blah blah’ then sure, but there is no such message…
there is a big difference between pushing your chest forward and arching your back
It's literally like the natural way people would do stuff turns out to be the best, it's always no knees over toes , don't arch your back and they always turn out to be the best way
This works if you train it and built it up like any other movement. Don't try this on your pr attempts to gain a slight boost in performance.
This will be safe if you do it naturally. I do this BUT I feel like I’m keeping a flat back.
Me too. People love to comment but ever since I stopped trying to exaggerate the “straight back”, I have way less lower back pain, if any, and am able to pull more weight.
Don't do this if you're not an elite lifter
Don't lift weights unless you're an elite lifter, it's just too much risk.
@@theaccordian9377 Yeah just sit at home and don't move at all, too much risk
I can't do this the rounding continues till lower back
If that happens to u, even a straight posture in the back can round ur lower back! U need more stiffness at the start of ur deadlift
Just put a stick up your arse before deadlifting.
i lift with the slight rounded back - anyways, don't squat your deadlift - it's natural to round the back when picking something up- i have been doing it for years
Tried this yesterday now I have a herniated disc
Sounds like BS Herniated disc maybe but how this gonna cause your intestines push thru your abs? By having a round back? You're just a parrot
You're not that guy pal
@@jacobcarter5923 you’re not that guy buddy
@@Yourenotthatguy you're not that guy friend
@@jacobcarter5923 you’re not that guy mate
Dude completes his full rep when I'm only halfway through mine with my short arms.
short arms is actually why i do this lol
I just found out today when my trainer pointed out that my upper back rounds when deadlifting, lower was fine. Looks like I have been doing thoracic rounding all along these 5/6 years.
That’s how you’ll pop a rib out too lol
Just doesn't seem worth it for 90% of lifters. I for one will still be commenting "spine day" when people lift like this on the internet
Save your time and get better. Your deadlift sucks, you don’t have time to be hating.
@@Xplora213 chill out, dora
@@Ipherix I’m impressed that I’ve never heard that before. I’m sad that it was so weak that no one ever used it before (had this handle for over 20 years, young one) LOL 😂
It is though. I find the stiff-shitting position rather hampering.
The difference is the traps are engaged.
he is totaly straight, only hus upper back wich is not
It's way harder if your legs are too damn long and arms are shorter
Straight/extended spine is not “neutral”..
spine day 🦾🦾🦾🔥
What does it mean by slack is pulled from the bar?
Today i’m finally gonna do it
yea finally deadlift bro it’s a great exercise
You got this!!
Start smaller and work up my guy 🤝
@@dZorroIII i meant killing myself but okay
Dont start with this technique do the safe neutral spine position first
Erector spinae needs to work too
They are in rounded position
Gives me anxiety attack 😪
Most controversy question
well this isnt a very plausible lat exercise so using it for lower back/hammy would mean the most
no need to even try to force backways its not naturally obliged weakens it in ways ylu dont understand. once you stsrt pendalay or purposely straitening without working out the extroverted portion your chances of injury then increase as your bodys not used to those positions when maybe picking something up or jumping barriers
think of workouts as your the first person trying it every time. but everytime you take the knowledge of the last attempt like naruto that is scientific lifting.
yin and yang relates to all things/philosiphy way of life whichmost people have loar
Honestly, which entrance exam do I need to get a full ride scholarship to Squat University?
Does anyone know what shoes he’s wearing?
yeaah nah, i rather stick with rdl's
What does it mean to pull slack off of the bar? (I think that's what was said?)
the bar moves around slightly when its on the ground with weights on it. you pull up slightly until the bar doesnt move and then you start the actually deadliftm
@@ore_ange5207 oh right I've heard of that. Thanks!
Opinions on Vince Anello, anyone??
Bro skipped leg day
Bro probably squats double your max
Yeah
I love u
Who is he?
Panagiotis Tarinidis
The French recordman in 66kg categorie in a drug tested federation.
He's got a TH-cam channel you can check out. "thepanash"
What makes the difference..... surgery
lol no
Snap
Don't do this.
Ok ok
High risk. Very low reward
how is it high risk when he clearly states its not a problem as long as ur lower back is not the part that is rounded?... doing this technique is what eliminated my back pain when deadlifting because it fit much better for my biomechanics especially since i have t Rex arms. high risk very low reward my butthole bro
I understood none of this
Engaged lats?
Twist your arms so you biceps change direction, imagine bending the bar, also try to look up
Yeah you are the only comment
Why do powerlifters bastardize every lift just for better leverages? You destroy the postural effects of the great exercise
Because the bigger number is all that matters
Not in training, but in competition. The purpose of competitions isn't to train/get stronger but to win.
Because we want to pull the most weights and we can always do stuff like facepulls or general upper back work for posture (or just consciously try to enforce it until it's engrained into our body).
"Postural effects" lol
@@Jeneric81 yeah?
God man.
Powerlifting is so aweful.
im sorry that you got butthurt over simply doing something that fits someone else's biomechanics better 7 months ago
i hope you stick to ur word and say the same when u realize eddie hall deadlifts the same way
No just don't do it.
id take proven research over ur broscience opinion any day bro. rounding my upper back has made the deadlift more efficient for me and a lot more pain free
Still seems like cheating... I also hate the high arches bench press...
It's not unless he starts to hitch his pull and the tradeoff of rounded back is harder lockouts, so it's quid pro quo situation here.
Same, I’m just like
“Well rip their lower back 🦴”
Lol gravity pulling his back down is "cheating"
Gymrats lmao
Bro they just do that cuz the weight is actually too heavy for them to handle
@thepanash