Rayon is made by taking a woody material, dissolving it in chemicals, then spinning the slurry into thread. The woody material can be eucalyptus, and the resulting material is called Tencel. Or other wood, called Rayon or beech wood called Modal. Or bamboo, which is supposed to be called "rayon from bamboo" in most countries but is often just called bamboo in the US. They're all "rayon" but not all rayon is bamboo.
Whether you change yourself or not it's ok, but please stop changing the position of the hundo every video, it's giving me a heck of a lot of trouble finding it every time. (" -.-)
Speak for yourself. He's becoming more and more annoying. This is what happens just before jumping the shark. People forget why they became popular. Change the formula and suffer the consequences.
Wow, I’m sure those penalties will really hurt both of them and totally wiped out their profits from lying. It’s going to cost them more to change their packaging than the penalty. Our justice system is a joke. If companies are people, do to them what would have happened to a regular person in this kind of situation.
Corporations are not like regular people. They are treated as billionaires and billionaires can usually just buy their way out of problems or they -bribe- lobby politicians to write laws in their favor.
There is a very traditional Japanese fiber made from bamboo. It is wonderfully comfortable, wears well, wicks away moisture and is expensive. The rayon made from bamboo fibers is NOT the same. It is cheap and and is used in cheap fast fashion/no fashion clothing. Rayon is pretty close to the samething, no matter what cellulose you use. So many people have never seen or felt the real thing that they are easily fooled by the deceptive label. To label rayon made with bamboo fiber, bamboo cloth, is like calling a gold tone metal, 24k gold.
Mechanically crushed bamboo is more like a burlap, it's pretty rough. Rayon literally has all the properties you described, it wicks away moisture, is soft like cotton, it basically is cotton, and just because it's cheap to manufacture doesn't mean it's not durable. Most fast fashions use polyester, which is even cheaper and less recyclable.
@@hilabon6829 That is only one of the ways bamboo is processed, it also varies in stiffness and feel depending on how much it is processed. There is another technique which is similar to the way linen is produced. This is one I was writing about. The stlye you are talking about, I have used to make a summer obi or as a stiffener in an obi. An Obi is the stiff wide sash that holds a kinomo in place.
@@M.R.Slagle The only fabrics I can find are nothing like linen or cotton, they are coarse and hard, and don't wick away moisture.' Literally the main selling point of rayon is its absorbency, that's why most commercial mop-heads are made of it, not to mention athletic wear and other applications where absorbency is important. You seem like one of those people who thinks just because something is processed, it's somehow bad. I've got news for you, rayon is no worse than any other textile; literally every one has major environmental impacts. Rayon isn't going to poison you, it's not a plastic polymer and there aren't nasty chemicals in it, no more than any other fabric. The issue here isn't that it's technically mislabeled, it's that companies are trying to insist these rayon products are vastly more green than cotton, linen or other plant sourced fibers; that's the big lie that should be focused on.
@@hilabon6829 I gained most of my knowledge of textiles while studying at an accredited school of Kimono in Japan which I graduated from. The school covers the art of dressing and making traditional Japanese clothing. Part of our studies incuded learning about the various types and styles of fibers, the different weaving, dyeing, sewing and embroidery patterns that were used historically and how they evoled into their modern forms. And yes, we covered the introduction of Rayon in Kimono use in the 1940's. I know the difference between it and the other types of Bamboo fabrics. I have worked with the type you mentioned. It has some very practical uses as a stiffern alone and with other fabrics. Though synthetics are much cheaper and widely used today. The type of fabric you are unfamiliar with is made by retting mechanically crushed bamboo. Retting is the same processed used to convert flax to linen. If your not familiar with retting the traditional form is very time consuming. It involves soaking the crushed fibers in flowing water for days so that the fibers can be broken down and the hard cellulose is rotted away. It took considerable expertise to produce these lovely soft fibers. It is now done in a factory with large water tanks that control the water temperature, mineral content and the microbes used. It is far more efficient, making it far more affordable. But not common. That is why many people get confused because they haven't seen the real thing. I don't understand where you get the idea that I have such a strong distaste for synthetic fabrics. My fabric choices have far more to do with what I am making and how it is going to use, than if it is natural, synthetic or a blend. I do hate cheaply made Rayon fabric because it is loosely woven and that causes it drape poorly, ravel and show wear, a tighter weave cost more, but is worth the difference and I have never been afraid to use it where it is appropriate.
But WalMart and Kohl's will use this fine as justification to further delay better compensation and staffing levels in actual store locations. With no impact on yacht payments for the top tier.
I loved that you got to use "bamboozled" introducing an ideal story for it! (Makes me want to look up how this term evolved--used to hear it a lot, but not so much lately...). Also glad some action being taken for false labelling--bamboo is a great renewable fiber source, and usually premium price & thus a lot of incentive to claim products are made with bamboo. Not directly dangerous to the consumer, as some cases have been, but once again demonstrating why we need such laws!
wow what a slap on the wrist this judgement/fine was.. I would not be surprised if Walmart and Kohls each separately probably made up to hundreds of millions if not over a billion in sales or profits off "bamboo" products. Over the past long 12 years.
Rayon is a synthetic silk made from cellulose. I have some bamboo pajamas and the pants didn't last long but I've had the shirt for three or four years. It's naturally antimicrobial which is good for someone with night sweats. Super comfortable, surprisingly durable, and very different than rayon.
@@dawnlambe8601 Yes, but if they used recapture it's cheaper. Most companies won't because they get subsidies citizens don't. To quote ANY plant manager in the world; "We lose too much business if we shut down and overhaul to longer-term sustainable practices. It's more profitable to be wasteful and open than to worry about decreasing expenses long term." THAT is the issue that needs to be addressed through incentives and fines.
Bamboo is a SOURCE of rayon, and it's not legal to act like the source of a fabric's textile is that textile. Tons of companies have done this. Birch, too! You can use the fancy fabric subtype name, though.
I’ve had a bathrobe made of bamboo (rayon made from bamboo) since way before 2015. Its wonderful and, apparently, very durable. It’s very comfortable and, apart from the fact that the label it starting to fall off, has suffered no detectable wear.
the textile fibers law actually has a very interesting history because many years ago there was a widespread issue with manufacturers filling mattresses with literal garbage and were allowed to make whatever claim they wanted regarding what was used to stuff the mattresses
“Bamboo” rayon is Walmart marketing greenwahing Rayon is an umbrella term for a variety of cellulose based fabrics made from highly processed and regenerated cellulose. The initial cellulose can originate from wood pulp, cotton and, yes, even bamboo cellulose fibers. So the question is, if Walmart had marketed it fabric as rayon “originating from bamboo” or “containing bamboo cellulose” would that still violated the fabric identification act? Respectfully, W.S.
Of course it violates the act because both corporations deceived the consumers who purchased these products leading them to believe they were "natural" and free from chemicals.
One of the purported environmental benefits of making rayon from bamboo is that it grows very rapidly and can be used to remediate some kinds of polluted soil. Whether or not the factory that turns it into rayon is environmentally responsible is another question. They could be, or they could not be.
@@TheBooban If it is Rayon, it is Rayon. Whatever source of cellulose is immaterial. Rayon is Rayon! (However, if you advertise that your Rayon is from bamboo, it needs to be from bamboo. But, technically, Rayon is Rayon. Even if it is from (BIG mistake) from cotton, it is STILL Rayon! Interesting, what they can make from a sugar. (Any chemical name ending in 'ose, is a sugar.) steve
I am a handspinner. There is a distinct difference in the feel of 100% bamboo and regular rayon fiber even though both are made with the same chemical processing method. And bamboo is softer as well as more expensive.
Rayon like Polyester is highly allergic for some folks. Advertising as 100% cotton is not allowed to contain Rayon nor Polyester without specifying this.
I am not allergic at all but wearing it feels gross. Always clamy and doesn't breathe. I went to Walmart and looked for wool socks for work. NONE of the socks contained even 50% wool yet were all advertised as wool socks. I left with nothing. Wearing anything but cotton or wool in your work boots is nasty. It's ok to have a small percentage of polyester to give it a little stretch but usually 10% or less is ideal.
@@geoffmooregm I agree the synthetic clothes feel gross. Before I developed the allergies I still hated the feeling of synthetic fibers. I BB bought silk liners to go over my wool socks which I ordered from LL Bean.
Most rayon is just cellulose. It's the same stuff as cotton. I could imagine people being allergic to acetate rayon, which is a different material, but I press X to doubt on people being allergic to clean, well-made cuprammonium rayon.
Many years ago (1980s) I bought half a dozen pairs of "Trail Chief" boot socks. (Yes, the company would be forced to change the name and logo if they were still in business.) Interesting construction. Instead of being all cotton or a cotton/nylon blend, they were woven with every 8th or so thread nylon instead of cotton. That created a nylon web to reinforce the cotton. Worked so well that even if all the cotton wore off a spot, the nylon web held. Finally had to throw out the last pair a couple years ago as they had finally become Church Socks- holey. Never found them or any socks made like them again.
We found out from our veterinarian that the name brand flea and tick medicine we were buying from Walmart wasn't working because the product didn't contain the active ingredients, despite being in the correct packaging.
@@luvr381 oh! Thank you! I foster and rescue-in this circle frontline has been a concern-it isnt working. We strive to utilize revolution-you can get it online💚
@@Forensource it’s been an ongoing issue. Not enough Frontline is manufactured legitimately to account for what Walmart is distributing so we know that Walmart has fake product. We also know that people are reporting the product doesn’t work. This is a concern because it means we need to see if fleas are becoming resistant- they aren’t. the product just doesn’t contain the active ingredient.
When making rayon from bamboo fiber the cellulose is chemically stripped from the fiber and what remains of the fiber is discarded. The cellulose is then dissolved in another chemical and extruded as a very fine filament from something called a spinneret. These soft and viscous fibers are then sprayed with another chemical to harden and strengthen them. There is minimal if any difference in Rayon made from different plant sources.
Fines need to be set at a minimum what it can be found the profits were up to double that amount if records are unclear + punitive fines to ensure companies that intentionally break the law actually get injured for doing so instead of accepting a few million are "just the cost of doing business".
Yup. I remember when a bunch of TV manufacturers were caught and convicted of price rigging and collusion. They had to pay > 10% of what they stole from the consumers. Which is TOTALLY going to disincentivize them from trying it again. The same way Wells Fargo would never try to pull any more scams after they got pun-oh wait. It's a joke. If you rob someone as a little guy, you pay 100% plus damages. You rob EVERYONE and you're a "job creator".
Set the Fines/Penalties as 3x the Yearly Gross Income of the Company (NOT just the Profits, EVERY PENNY THEY TOOK IN THAT YEAR!) and they'll stop pulling this Shit... Either that, or they'll spend a LOT of time and effort into making DAMN sure they don't get caught again...
agree in principle, but is double enough of a disincentive? the biggest reason being most CEO's aren't company owners and can collect years of nice fat bonuses thanks to increasing profits through fraud, then when it's discovered and the company pays a fine, the individual who actually ordered the fraud still keeps their proceeds of the fraud. there's also the damage done to competing retailers who were disadvantaged on price for that entire time, and the likelihood that not all frauds will be found and thus if retailers can sneak at least half past then they're still benefitting from fraud.
Bamboo is a rapidly renewable plant. And it is incredibly soft. It has a very soft "hand", bamboo t-shirts, sleepwear, and quilt batting launders well, and feels amazing.
Steve, I love the shirt, I wonder how many people think the cloud is actually up in the sky, maybe when they read your shirt they'll realize you're just stuck on somebody's hard drive somewhere. Good job!
Just imagine how much of this "bamboo" product is passing through Amazon's hands. I'd be willing to bet that it absolutely beggars what Kohls and Wal-Mart are jointly responsible for!
What they need to do is take ALL of the profit out of deceptive advertising. Don't fine them $5.5 million. Fine them $500 million. THAT will get their attention and take all of the incentive out of lying about their products. The stupid thing about it is that the process of making fabric from bamboo and making rayon is very similar. They both use a very toxic process. The end result for both is a very nice fabric but at what cost to the enviroment? Rayon isn't even made in the U. S. because the process is so dirty. (EPA, etc.)There are more enviromentally friendly processes for making these fabrics but, of course, they are more expensive. Heaven forbid we would have to pay $2.00 more per blouse to save the enviroment. That's way too much.
Fine them 100% of the *revenue* of selling these products. Which would probably come out somewhere around 100 million tbh, it is not nearly as big of a thing as some people think. Profit, even gross profit, can easily be manipulated and is rather thin even in reality. It is neither reliable nor would it amount to much. Fining 100% of the revenue will guarantee they make a net loss (of whatever their cost is) on this "deal".
I've used bamboo clothing for a couple decades (along with cotton, hemp, etc due to adverse skin reactions to most synthetics)... it's popular amongst enviro-minded for its fast growth & minimal maintenence/impact... I just like the comfort. 😅
@@rennnnn914 It can be readily used to make linen fabrics... rayon process is just to create a softer fabric. Both the linen and rayon are often blended with cotton for added pliability & strength.
Rayon is a fiber from regenerated cellulose, generally derived from wood pulp. Rayon is usually made from eucalyptus trees, but any plant can be used (such as bamboo, soy, cotton, etc). To produce the fiber, the plant cellulose goes through a process involving a lot of chemicals, energy and water.
But if done sustainably, you are using "trash" wood instead of scarce petroleum for your chemistry. Yeah, natural products like cotton, wool and linen are probably greener, depending on whether the cotton and flax are farmed sustainably or not. Also, there's the issue of using our limited and shrinking arable land to grow food and not fabric. (Sheep, you get wool plus meat plus dairy.)
We have Zen Plush with Bamboo pillows the tag states All new material 100% polyester fiber batting aka filling. The cover is 85% polyester and 15% rayon made from Bamboo. It was manufactured in Aug 2019.
They need to pass a law requiring companies to pay back 1.5 to 10 times back to amount of profit they make from scams depending on how bad it is ...also they should have to pay the investigation cost as well
1.5 to 10 times the revenue not profit. . . The profit is probably a few cents to a dollar per item. They need to be made pay back multiple times the total revenue from sales
Exactly. It’s why Nestle has no problem with continuing to illegally pull water from the reservoirs of now drought-stricken locations to bottle it up and sell right back to the people living there. What do they care if they’re fined $5000 when they make millions off it? Probably factored right into the budget.
To add, Hemp (the male Cannabis plant) has so many uses that it's an incredible resource. One of those uses is as a textile. You can make a "thread" that is as strong as silk and almost as soft. You would be surprised at how many plants can be used to make clothing or linens.
In the case of rayon, it's modified cellulose, so bamboo is a perfect feedstock for it. It wasn't a lie per'se; more greenwashing something that isn't as green as it seemed. There's a bit of deception on both sides it seems.
Bamboo is pushed as much as it is because it's a great Renewable Resource... Bamboo is a member of the Grass Family of Plants ans grows at a truly insane rate so the time between planting and harvest is fairly short and the stuff just keeps growing (you cut the stalk near the ground and it will sprout a new shoot within a day or 2 if not within hours so one plant can be harvested over and over and over again...so it's an ecologically friendly material to grow and use for wood products (flooring, countertops, cutting boards etc.)...
My guess is that bamboo is popular because it grows 3 feet a day and it considered a natural fibre, like cotton and hemp. Bamboo is also popular as flooring and furnishings….
I purchased a set of bamboo sheets many years ago from Bed Bath & Beyond, not Kohl's or Walmart. They were quite pricey I asked the sales person if they were really made from bamboo? And she said well yes, that's what it says. I couldn't help thinking I was being taken but purchased them anyway. they are a pretty shade of green, a bit silky and were cooler in hot summer weather. I did get stage 3 cancer within a couple of years but who knows where it came from. I lived. I still have the sheets. May now use them for shade cloth over my garden?
Bamboo rayon or bamboo viscose is rayon that is made from bamboo. Rayon can be made from other fibers such as pine, beech, or eucalyptus. Bamboo is raised without fertilizers, pesticides, or irrigation and is naturally sustainable. It wicks away moisture and drys much faster than cotton. Bamboo rayon/viscose is often labeled in the US as bamboo. In other countries, it is usually labeled as rayon/viscose made from bamboo.
If you want to test something just get a strand of it and burn it. Rayon and nylon will melt and burn, acetate will bubble and burn and bamboo and Cotten will glow and slowly burn and smell like paper.
Rayon is a cool-to-touch, absorbent and breathable fabric. Perfect for sheets. I think Bamboo is called "green" because it is highly renewable as it grows so fast. Faster than trees.
As noted I and others have been discussing and pointing this out for years. The problem isn't "chemicals" literally everything is "chemicals" you and I are made of "chemicals," water in any form is nothing but chemicals. Sure some chemicals can be harmful, but even the notion of "good" and "bad" chemicals is an oversimplification; hell water will kill you if it's too hot, too cold, if try to breathe it or if you drink to much of it. As for Bamboo it originally jumped aboard the hype-train mostly due to ecological considerations. Bamboo is a source of cellulose fiber, a critical feed stock in the production of many products and textiles including those *frightful* semi-synthetic fibers like Rayon. The argument is bamboo is a better alternative to cotton or tree cellulose fiber sources because: Bamboo grows faster than trees or cotton, has a higher yield per land use, fixes more CO2 and generates up to 35 percent more oxygen than similar stands of tree, requires few pesticides or fertilizers and is easier to harvest. While many of those things might be true, not all "cellulose fiber" is the same, there is a reason why cotton for instance has been prized, and arduously cultivated for thousands of years. So questions arise like "How much cotton fiber can I replace with bamboo fiber before the fabric quality turns to shit?" or "How little bamboo feedstock can I include yet still market my underwear as made from bamboo?" Bottomline: Bamboo has a place in the textile supply chain, but it's no panacea; What is more, without a significant increase in end-consumer transparency in the highly proprietary textile industry, "Made from Bamboo" marketing is meaningless and consumers should not make ecological (or any) assessments based on such marketing.
The complaint I know about bamboo since 7 years ago, and I believe it was around 7 years ago when I learned of this, bamboo grows underneath not as it grows above, as most plant structures do or can. Bamboo has both a vertical growth and a horizontal root growth intersected at 90° angles under the ground. And as some bushes grow with a larger root structure in the ground then what is a parent above, much larger in fact is the bamboo. Bamboo growth must literally be cordoned off typically by concrete walls underneath the ground to trap its root growth and thereby its ultimate height. You would never ever never build bamboo near sewer lines especially play pipe exits. Nor would you want to plant them near any type of outdoor electrical wiring activity that might be buried even only 6 in underneath the soil surface! Yes oh what a tangled web bamboo does bamboozle weave.
Bamboo is such a great resource, the plant can grow fast enough that the human eye can watch it grow. If we could build stuff out of it, not only would it draw a lot of carbon from atmosphere, it would also provide a lot of material rather cheaply.
The issue is that while you can make rayon out of bamboo (or any plant matter); it's more energy intensive than it seems on the surface, making it no better than cotton; from preliminary research, at least. Bamboo for other purposes does have promise, but there are downsides, like bamboo locking up phosphorus, which is highly essential. What we ideally need is a process to reclaim phosphates from plant matter while leaving the carbon behind that's low energy. We could then bury the carbonaceous material deep, deep underground to sequester it. Or in other words, we need to put all that oil and coal carbon back where we got it from.
@@TheBooban Rayon is not in fact a plastic as you know them, it is not a thermoset polymer like PVC or PP. There's nothing plastic about rayon, you cannot melt it, stretch it or anything else. On the microscopic level, Rayon is more similar to a manmade cotton than something like nylon or lycra. Don't use words you don't understand the meaning of. I bet you're one of those bozos who misuses the word 'chemical' too, aren't you? Do you think water is magically not a chemical because it's naturally occuring? XD
I'm surprised you weren't aware of laws around disclosing textile materials, that's basically what those 'do no remove under penalty of law' tags are all about. There was a lot of deception in bedding and textiles once upon a time, hence the strong laws. Thing stuff like filthy recycled textile fills with zero idea what the raw material composition was, or any allergens contained within; it was once a problem on the scale of food adulteration, including using fiberglass to fill mattresses, asbestos and other hazardous materials, or even highly flammable materials like celluloid foam. Would you buy bedding, towels or clothes if you had no idea what they were made of? I certainly wouldn't want to shop for a mattress if they could sell ones full of fiberglass without disclosing it was.
@@thecrownedjester Try laying on one of those slabs of pink corning fiberglass insulation sometime. *(Disclaimer: You will spend a long time in the hospital for respiratory damage along with micro-cuts all over your body.)*
@@thecrownedjester have you ever worked with or around fiberglass. If you had I don't think you would say it sounds comfortable. Think fiberglass insulation, not fiberglass panels.
@@ShadowFox439 I'm aware; they are also often improperly sealed, hence why I wouldn't want to buy one that contained it. If they didn't have to disclose materials, it would be very hard to avoid.
While Rayon isn’t as easy to test for, There is a test you can perform to distinguish most natural fibers from synthetic ones: hold a single strand in a flame. If it makes ash that flakes away and floats, or disappears, it’s natural (you can also learn the smell of each material when burnt). If it melts and drips or leaves a strand of hard material, or smells like burnt plastic, it’s synthetic. When I was in India buying a cashmere scarf, I burnt a stray fiber and was pleased to see it was natural. True cashmere, I don't know, but it was definitely soft enough and a natural fiber.
Rayon is cellulose and will thus produce similar results in a burn test to cotton or linen. Wool, silk and other keratin based fibers will smell like burning hair and produce a gritty heavy ash that doesn't float or flake away. Cashmere is a very fine grade of goat hair, so it definitely wouldn't smell like wood or paper when burnt.
I have a friend in the National Bamboo Society (US) And he got me a wonderfully comfortable bamboo silk tee shirt. It is warm without getting hot, and breathes moisture out better than wool.
Bamboo contains cellulose fibers, just like wood, cotton, and other plant materials. As with all of them, you can separate the fibers and make paper, thread, yarn, and textiles from those fibers, and the qualities of all those products depend upon the plants from which the fibers came. All of them can be turned into rayon. But between the raw fibers and rayon, they lose the characteristics that distinguish the sources of the fibers. Bamboo fibers are smaller in diameter, less stiff, and softer feeling than cotton and much more so than wood fibers. I have both cotton rope
At first I wondered if the store's knew the producer was doing that but when they continue to sell the product after the warning letters, that means they knew and/or didnt care.
Rayon is made from plant fibers - typically cotton but Rayon can also be made from bamboo. Rayon is the plant based alternative to either animal products like silk or chemical products like Nylon
8:52 The reason bamboo is becoming so popular in textiles, homeware, and other products is because of how fast bamboo grows. Combine that with the diversity of temperature ranges bamboo can grow in, and you've got a tantalizing opportunity for environmentalists to push. You'll probably be able to find a small bamboo plant at your local nursery (slightly different from a garden center at a super-store) if you want to see for yourself how quickly it can grow. The only problem is, the boost in popularity has led to plant-poaching. Places where bamboo grows natively are having to monitor their bamboo forests to catch poachers who destroy the environment. If you're gonna buy a bamboo product, it's best to do a bit of research to avoid paying into the poaching schemes. Accredited local nurseries will likely be just fine, though.
Do not, I repeat do not plant bamboo in your yard. It's invasive and impossible to kill. I have bamboo in my yard, don't know how it got there, and nothing that I've tried can get rid of it. I've tried digging it out, spraying it with herbicides, there isn't enough Roundup in the world to get rid of it. It ought to be illegal to sell it in the US because it doesn't belong here. BTW I live in Massachusetts, you think of bamboo as a tropical plant but winters do phase it
Bamboo is easy to grow, uses a lot less water, easily harvested. The fibers last longer than cotton, softer than cotton. I LOVE MY BAMBOO SHEETS & COMFY CLOTHES... THEY MADE WAY MORE MONEY THAN THE FINES LEVIED. DIRTY TRICKS
Bamboo grows really quickly and as a source of cellulose for rayon is an economic and relatively sustainable way to get the cellulose. The ability to exploit the marketing for an extra buck was just a bonus.
@@rennnnn914 You don't have to convert cotten, but cotton takes vast amounts of fertilizer, land space (valuable land space at that), and due to the low yield per acre, it does take a lot of energy to grow and harvest it when you factor in all those tractors use diesel, extracting phosphates to feed it takes energy, and it takes a lot of energy to clean and ready the cotten to be made into yarn. The energy side seems to be deadlocked, but bamboo takes less prime croplands to grow, it can be grown on utterly worthless land and grows far faster than cotton, and just about every part of the plant is able to be turned into rayon. Both have their ups and downs, and neither is clearly better. However, running a rayon plant off of pure solar would be easier than running loads of tractors for cotton growing off the same. Bamboo is also easier to harvest, meaning it would be easier to have limited equipment to reduce energy usage from fuels for tractors. We can also use bamboo for cheap composite board and fiberboard or directly to make furniture and housing, so it's a multipurpose crop, where cotton is monopurpose as a feedstock for textiles.
Want some rayon history check out the Rayonier logging railroad. It was a big part of the Pacific Northwest logging history. Rayon is made from fir and hemlock trees in the Northwest.
It is possible to make fabric fibers from the bast fibers of bamboo in a process similar to what is used to make linen from flax, but the process is expensive and thus rarely used. Unless the product is comparatively quite expensive, then whatever is labelled as "bamboo" is rayon, although it may be made from bamboo as the cellulose source. Rayon from bamboo isn't anything like a bast fiber fabric. Rayon is made by chemically processing cellulose from (usually) woody plants, which could be bamboo. In the US, rayon has to be either labelled as rayon or alternately by the process used to make it, such as viscose, modal, tencel, lyocell. Tencel/lyocell is less environmentally damaging than viscose/modal, but it's still rayon. If bamboo was used as the original material, you can say "rayon from bamboo", but you still have to declare it as rayon. I'm not sure of the legality of having packaging saying "bamboo" all over it, with one small statement on the back saying "tencel" (I see this a lot in fabric and yarn), that's for the lawyers to argue over, but there's a lot of fiber companies that could be in hot water if that's not legal.
I think it is popular as it is easily renewable. It absorbs carbon fronm the air in large amounts. It is the same phase as the hemp movement before it. Both can be broke down in to fibers like linen. As it is a niche market that costs a lot as it is not mass produced. A manufacturer can fake it with what they make and charge a slightly higher price. They do the same with silk and wool. Customers are getting wise and testing the materials. Nowadays they posts results on line. That starts the ball rolling except if it is regulators that ball can be very slow.
Hemp fiber, without any chemical process can be made into a fabric. In the 1700’s farmers were required to grow hemp for making sails (canvas) and rope for the navy. The original Levi’s jeans were made of hemp fiber. Bamboo fabric is a regenerated cellulosic fiber and not a natural fiber. The canvas you get today is cotton canvas, or duck.
After reading comments by people who seem to know how rayons are made I have to wonder if any bamboo cloth is “green”. What kind of chemicals are used to make fibers flexible enough for thread?
Rayon starts life as cellulose -- a substance found in wood and all manner of plant matter. Cotton is virtually pure cellulose. The altered-and-dissolved cellulose, which one might conceive as a gelatinous mass, is then processed into fibers. Bamboo does contain lots of cellulose. I have no idea frankly whether it's an industrial source of cellulose. But it seems likely enough. It's a sure bet that rayon derived from bamboo isn't particularly special. A rose by any other name...
If you want to know what fiber your garment is, you can snip off a small piece of the fabric and do a burn test. There are lots of vids on this platform that demonstrate how various fibers burn. ( Obviously, you want to take that piece from a discrete location on the garment.)
What struck me is both companies were "warned" and 12 years later action is taken. As stated, just how much profit was made BEFORE civil penalties paid? But, in the totality of life, I really don't care! 👍 To your videos.
My answer would've been: I'm just a reseller, I don't test and certify every product coming through this place. But $3 million dollars is such a nothing fine to Wal-Mart that apparently they didn't even bother to pay a lawyer to contest it, it's easier to just pay it and discontinue the product.
I bought bamboo sheets because I was specifically looking for "cooling" sheets and that's what popped up the most lol. I also prefer natural fibers (cotton, etc.). I suspect there is also an environmental aspect with bamboo being fast growing. In the end, yeah probably just about money.
Interesting, and not surpisingly misleading, our textile industry fabric formulation methodology. Discovered, after fact, rayon was "silk" threaded throughout decorative shiny parts of patterned wool carpet. Purchased cheap, colorful rayon beach/summer attire in clothing section of various drug/department stores in years past, without full knowledge of manufacturing process. My ignorance no excuse, yet now wondering what the dillyo re supposedly more ecologically friendly bamboo toilet tissue. Hmm...long past time to educate myself about textile greenwashing. Thanks for this!
The attraction is that bamboo is supposedly a more renewable material and that its a natural fiber. The same goes for hemp. I can’t confirm or deny whether or not it is better for reducing a person’s carbon footprint but that is the marketing strategy from the people who are producing it. I do know that bamboo is one of the fastest growing plants and it makes sense to me that growing bamboo might be better than cutting down trees and I can hope that there is less of an environmental impact when producing bamboo products.
Then again, a well-managed forest has a higher CO2 capture rate, higher biodiversity, and higher carrying capacity for game. Wood products are carbon-neutral and (can be) sustainable.
I had a bamboo fiber balaclava I used for riding my motorcycle. It tattooed it's dye into my face. Luckily I realized the cause and stopped using it. It took more than a year for it to go away. I also have a bamboo fiber sleeping bag liner that I used once in the outdoors and on an airplane. That thing quickly feels dirty and it makes me cold. I'm already a cold sleeper and for me that's a bad thing, especially on the airplane which is always kept cold in the United States (on average foreigners are thinner and like it warmer). I would rather have rayon. Bamboo fiber is terrible in my opinion but it's being pushed by Chinese marketing.
This put out by the Sleep Foundation: "Sheets labeled as “bamboo” typically consist of rayon, lyocell, or modal fabric derived from bamboo fibers. These sheets are often relatively similar to cotton in their softness, breathability, and durability."
I think the claim of being harmless is what did them in. Rayon can be made from bamboo, but the process,as you mentioned, is not without processing with hazardous chemicals. For the last couple decades bamboo has been pitched as the wonder wood because it grows quickly and can be formed into flooring, shelving, and countertops, furniture, etc. all with the look of traditional wood. I think its growing cachet is causing manufacturers to push it regardless of any benefit or harm.
My understanding is that "Rayon" can be called "a natural fibre" because it is made from wood/plant fibres. It does however require a substantial chemical cocktail, water and energy, to turn those natural ingredients into cloth. As I heard it, "Rayon" is effectively identical to spider-web-silk, but a spider's internal guts make the thread using natural biological processes.
As someone who has used bamboo yarn to make items exclusively for premature babies I think they got off easy. Bamboo is supposed to be antimicrobial and therefore is safer for babies at higher risk.
Why is bamboo such a hot topic? It is one of the fastest growing woody materials, even though it is more accurately a grass. Some varieties can grow as much as 36 inches in a 24-hour period, and bamboo can well tolerate marginal soil conditions, making it a handy plant for re- and afforestation. Turning bamboo into wood or textiles is where the benefits start to vary, and one needs to closely examine the processes, chemicals and amount of water used.
I find this story incredibly difficult because I grew up near a pulp and paper mill complex that was owned by an international corporation named- ITT Rayonier. The company was based on the chemical treatment of wood fibers that were made into rayon. The corporation owned pulp and paper mills in Washington and Florida. Go figure.
The textile law is the reason mattresses are labeled. Proper ID of fabric is a guide that dry-cleaners live and die by. The clothing manufacturers usually don't make the fabric. It seems the biggest violators are expensive designer brands using a blend of polyester with silk and labeling it as silk, they often construct it with cheap or the wrong thread causing other headaches. It's not uncommon for a dry-cleaner to say we won't do 'brand X'.
If you browse through some of the items on Amazon, you will see items such as chairs, cell phone cases, etc... that are advertised as being leather. Sometimes even as genuine leather or leather fabric. You have to dig through the complete listing, and many times the ratings or questions and answers, to see if it's really leather or vinyl. This is completely deceptive.. and it's not Amazon's fault, but the advertiser's, but Amazon needs to police their listings better.
Bamboo is big because it is sustainable. The same reason hemp is big these days for fabrics and paper. Fast growing and renewable both are better alternatives than trees or cotton.
Bamboo here grows 12" to 36" per day making it renewable and sustainable. It has some good uses. Thomas Edison (who had his winter residence here) did all kinds of work with it because it is so plentiful.
Bamboo has antimicrobial properties, I believe. Not sure if rayon made out of bamboo has the same properties. Pretty sure you will be able to find trace amounts of those harmful chemicals in the finished products, though.
I'd lay odds that they were buying the rayon from China, and their suppliers were playing a bit loose with the specifics, while adhering to the essence of the contract... as they viewed things in China. Cha bu duo... Rayon (TM) is a fiber made from cellulose acetate. Cellulose acetate, and celluloid, have been known since the 1860s Cellulose is acetylated by acetic acid (concentrated from vinegar in the old day). The cellulose comes from various plants, which can include cotton and bamboo, as well as waste wood. Cellulose acetate is a thermoplastic, and it can be mixed with other chemicals to make things like billiard ball and screwdriver handles, or photographic film.
Our dollar store here in town sells all kinds of bamboo products, bedding, cutting boards, etc. Walmart has always and always will jump though and use every loop hole that brings in a profit no matter the cost to get that profit including lose of life. This is my opinion after working for the company.
So this is a weird one in that all bamboo fabric is rayon. Not all rayon is bamboo. In 2017 many rayon producers changed the processing to make it significantly more eco-friendly. Most rayon now is actually better for the environment than non organic cotton. I love rayon and learned about it because I'm allergic to polyester.
Rayon is made by taking a woody material, dissolving it in chemicals, then spinning the slurry into thread. The woody material can be eucalyptus, and the resulting material is called Tencel. Or other wood, called Rayon or beech wood called Modal. Or bamboo, which is supposed to be called "rayon from bamboo" in most countries but is often just called bamboo in the US. They're all "rayon" but not all rayon is bamboo.
Thanks, clears it up.
They also are getting away with lying about thread count this way. 1200tc is actually 300tc
Good information. With this it doesn't sound as bad.
Chemically, once you turn it into Rayon, it isn't really Bamboo any more.
And turning it into Rayon is certainly as not "Green" as they were alleging.
It is green in the sense that if it's 100% bamboo (or, depending on the industry '100% viscose') it is biodegradable when composted.
Steve: They’re bamboozling people!
We love you Steve. Never change.
Agree. His puns are: Classic, classy, clean, and cussing-free.
A rimshot icon is needed on this site.
Whether you change yourself or not it's ok, but please stop changing the position of the hundo every video, it's giving me a heck of a lot of trouble finding it every time. (" -.-)
Speak for yourself. He's becoming more and more annoying. This is what happens just before jumping the shark. People forget why they became popular. Change the formula and suffer the consequences.
@@privacyvalued4134 I’m sure he’s got some dirty ones that he’s not going to say on TH-cam.
Wow, I’m sure those penalties will really hurt both of them and totally wiped out their profits from lying.
It’s going to cost them more to change their packaging than the penalty.
Our justice system is a joke.
If companies are people, do to them what would have happened to a regular person in this kind of situation.
Corporations are not like regular people. They are treated as billionaires and billionaires can usually just buy their way out of problems or they -bribe- lobby politicians to write laws in their favor.
I am willing to bet Walmart spends more than 5 million stocking their restrooms with TP and paper towels. This is a half a trillion dollar company.
Our fines in the US are designed to only hurt poor people or small businesses.
I think that the profits were barely impacted. Cheers!
All they really need to do is call it bamboo sourced rayon and they're done. Rayon is cellulose from wood, period.
There is a very traditional Japanese fiber made from bamboo. It is wonderfully comfortable, wears well, wicks away moisture and is expensive.
The rayon made from bamboo fibers is NOT the same. It is cheap and and is used in cheap fast fashion/no fashion clothing.
Rayon is pretty close to the samething, no matter what cellulose you use.
So many people have never seen or felt the real thing that they are easily fooled by the deceptive label.
To label rayon made with bamboo fiber, bamboo cloth, is like calling a gold tone metal, 24k gold.
Mechanically crushed bamboo is more like a burlap, it's pretty rough. Rayon literally has all the properties you described, it wicks away moisture, is soft like cotton, it basically is cotton, and just because it's cheap to manufacture doesn't mean it's not durable. Most fast fashions use polyester, which is even cheaper and less recyclable.
@@hilabon6829 That is only one of the ways bamboo is processed, it also varies in stiffness and feel depending on how much it is processed. There is another technique which is similar to the way linen is produced. This is one I was writing about. The stlye you are talking about, I have used to make a summer obi or as a stiffener in an obi. An Obi is the stiff wide sash that holds a kinomo in place.
@@M.R.Slagle The only fabrics I can find are nothing like linen or cotton, they are coarse and hard, and don't wick away moisture.' Literally the main selling point of rayon is its absorbency, that's why most commercial mop-heads are made of it, not to mention athletic wear and other applications where absorbency is important.
You seem like one of those people who thinks just because something is processed, it's somehow bad. I've got news for you, rayon is no worse than any other textile; literally every one has major environmental impacts. Rayon isn't going to poison you, it's not a plastic polymer and there aren't nasty chemicals in it, no more than any other fabric.
The issue here isn't that it's technically mislabeled, it's that companies are trying to insist these rayon products are vastly more green than cotton, linen or other plant sourced fibers; that's the big lie that should be focused on.
@@hilabon6829 I gained most of my knowledge of textiles while studying at an accredited school of Kimono in Japan which I graduated from. The school covers the art of dressing and making traditional Japanese clothing.
Part of our studies incuded learning about the various types and styles of fibers, the different weaving, dyeing, sewing and embroidery patterns that were used historically and how they evoled into their modern forms.
And yes, we covered the introduction of Rayon in Kimono use in the 1940's. I know the difference between it and the other types of Bamboo fabrics. I have worked with the type you mentioned. It has some very practical uses as a stiffern alone and with other fabrics. Though synthetics are much cheaper and widely used today.
The type of fabric you are unfamiliar with is made by retting mechanically crushed bamboo. Retting is the same processed used to convert flax to linen.
If your not familiar with retting the traditional form is very time consuming. It involves soaking the crushed fibers in flowing water for days so that the fibers can be broken down and the hard cellulose is rotted away. It took considerable expertise to produce these lovely soft fibers. It is now done in a factory with large water tanks that control the water temperature, mineral content and the microbes used. It is far more efficient, making it far more affordable. But not common. That is why many people get confused because they haven't seen the real thing.
I don't understand where you get the idea that I have such a strong distaste for synthetic fabrics.
My fabric choices have far more to do with what I am making and how it is going to use, than if it is natural, synthetic or a blend. I do hate cheaply made Rayon fabric because it is loosely woven and that causes it drape poorly, ravel and show wear, a tighter weave cost more, but is worth the difference and I have never been afraid to use it where it is appropriate.
Only 5 mill. That is a rounding error in Walmart's earnings statement
But WalMart and Kohl's will use this fine as justification to further delay better compensation and staffing levels in actual store locations. With no impact on yacht payments for the top tier.
It's like when I accidentally hit yes and donate $0.37 to whatever charity is giving the Walmart board kickbacks
5 mil is more like the amount of loss a store might have in a month
I loved that you got to use "bamboozled" introducing an ideal story for it! (Makes me want to look up how this term evolved--used to hear it a lot, but not so much lately...). Also glad some action being taken for false labelling--bamboo is a great renewable fiber source, and usually premium price & thus a lot of incentive to claim products are made with bamboo. Not directly dangerous to the consumer, as some cases have been, but once again demonstrating why we need such laws!
wow what a slap on the wrist this judgement/fine was.. I would not be surprised if Walmart and Kohls each separately probably made up to hundreds of millions if not over a billion in sales or profits off "bamboo" products. Over the past long 12 years.
Rayon is a synthetic silk made from cellulose. I have some bamboo pajamas and the pants didn't last long but I've had the shirt for three or four years. It's naturally antimicrobial which is good for someone with night sweats. Super comfortable, surprisingly durable, and very different than rayon.
No, it's tencel or modal from bamboo, TYPES of rayon.
@@toomanymarys7355 Go watch Nile Red make Rayon from cotton balls.
But it takes a lot of water to make into sheets or cloth
@@dawnlambe8601 Yes, but if they used recapture it's cheaper. Most companies won't because they get subsidies citizens don't. To quote ANY plant manager in the world; "We lose too much business if we shut down and overhaul to longer-term sustainable practices. It's more profitable to be wasteful and open than to worry about decreasing expenses long term." THAT is the issue that needs to be addressed through incentives and fines.
Have you considered what "naturally antimicrobial" means? Pretty sure the statement is bereft of any applied veracity.
Bamboo is a SOURCE of rayon, and it's not legal to act like the source of a fabric's textile is that textile. Tons of companies have done this. Birch, too! You can use the fancy fabric subtype name, though.
Tencel is one fancy subtype. Modal is another.
I’ve had a bathrobe made of bamboo (rayon made from bamboo) since way before 2015. Its wonderful and, apparently, very durable. It’s very comfortable and, apart from the fact that the label it starting to fall off, has suffered no detectable wear.
the textile fibers law actually has a very interesting history because many years ago there was a widespread issue with manufacturers filling mattresses with literal garbage and were allowed to make whatever claim they wanted regarding what was used to stuff the mattresses
Yup. Bought a huge bingbag chair. It was full of chopped up foam of different colors. Basically paid over $100 to sit on a sack of trash.
“Bamboo” rayon is Walmart marketing greenwahing Rayon is an umbrella term for a variety of cellulose based fabrics made from highly processed and regenerated cellulose. The initial cellulose can originate from wood pulp, cotton and, yes, even bamboo cellulose fibers. So the question is, if Walmart had marketed it fabric as rayon “originating from bamboo” or “containing bamboo cellulose” would that still violated the fabric identification act? Respectfully, W.S.
Of course it violates the act because both corporations deceived the consumers who purchased these products leading them to believe they were "natural" and free from chemicals.
One of the purported environmental benefits of making rayon from bamboo is that it grows very rapidly and can be used to remediate some kinds of polluted soil. Whether or not the factory that turns it into rayon is environmentally responsible is another question. They could be, or they could not be.
@@TheBooban If it is Rayon, it is Rayon.
Whatever source of cellulose is immaterial.
Rayon is Rayon!
(However, if you advertise that your Rayon is
from bamboo, it needs to be from bamboo.
But, technically, Rayon is Rayon. Even if it is
from (BIG mistake) from cotton, it is STILL
Rayon!
Interesting, what they can make from a sugar.
(Any chemical name ending in 'ose, is a sugar.)
steve
I am a handspinner. There is a distinct difference in the feel of 100% bamboo and regular rayon fiber even though both are made with the same chemical processing method. And bamboo is softer as well as more expensive.
Hmmm, what a coincidence that "bamboo" linens have been being heavily advertised online lately. 🙄
I usually get ads for things I just bought.
They won't tolerate retailers makeing false claims about their textiles, for more than 12 years.
Rayon like Polyester is highly allergic for some folks. Advertising as 100% cotton is not allowed to contain Rayon nor Polyester without specifying this.
I am one of those folks, I got a horrible rash, hives, and burns. I buy all cotton and linen now
I am not allergic at all but wearing it feels gross. Always clamy and doesn't breathe. I went to Walmart and looked for wool socks for work. NONE of the socks contained even 50% wool yet were all advertised as wool socks. I left with nothing. Wearing anything but cotton or wool in your work boots is nasty. It's ok to have a small percentage of polyester to give it a little stretch but usually 10% or less is ideal.
@@geoffmooregm I agree the synthetic clothes feel gross. Before I developed the allergies I still hated the feeling of synthetic fibers. I BB bought silk liners to go over my wool socks which I ordered from LL Bean.
Learn the language if you're going to comment and want to be taken seriously.
"Rayon, like polyester, is highly. . ."
Most rayon is just cellulose. It's the same stuff as cotton. I could imagine people being allergic to acetate rayon, which is a different material, but I press X to doubt on people being allergic to clean, well-made cuprammonium rayon.
Bamboo socks is the thing I have noticed for the past year or two. I've tried them and honestly, I still prefer Explorer socks with their wool blend.
Thank you for sharing your sock preference.
@@garysgarage.2841 I guess I'm odd because now I'm looking into wool explorer socks lol.
Many years ago (1980s) I bought half a dozen pairs of "Trail Chief" boot socks. (Yes, the company would be forced to change the name and logo if they were still in business.) Interesting construction. Instead of being all cotton or a cotton/nylon blend, they were woven with every 8th or so thread nylon instead of cotton. That created a nylon web to reinforce the cotton. Worked so well that even if all the cotton wore off a spot, the nylon web held. Finally had to throw out the last pair a couple years ago as they had finally become Church Socks- holey. Never found them or any socks made like them again.
My preference is wool socks with liners.
We found out from our veterinarian that the name brand flea and tick medicine we were buying from Walmart wasn't working because the product didn't contain the active ingredients, despite being in the correct packaging.
If its HARTZ dont use it there are thousands of stories of it killing furrbabies.
@@Redridininyohood Frontline Plus
@@luvr381 oh! Thank you! I foster and rescue-in this circle frontline has been a concern-it isnt working. We strive to utilize revolution-you can get it online💚
How did your vet possibly know that?
@@Forensource it’s been an ongoing issue. Not enough Frontline is manufactured legitimately to account for what Walmart is distributing so we know that Walmart has fake product. We also know that people are reporting the product doesn’t work. This is a concern because it means we need to see if fleas are becoming resistant- they aren’t. the product just doesn’t contain the active ingredient.
When making rayon from bamboo fiber the cellulose is chemically stripped from the fiber and what remains of the fiber is discarded. The cellulose is then dissolved in another chemical and extruded as a very fine filament from something called a spinneret. These soft and viscous fibers are then sprayed with another chemical to harden and strengthen them. There is minimal if any difference in Rayon made from different plant sources.
Fines need to be set at a minimum what it can be found the profits were up to double that amount if records are unclear + punitive fines to ensure companies that intentionally break the law actually get injured for doing so instead of accepting a few million are "just the cost of doing business".
Yup. I remember when a bunch of TV manufacturers were caught and convicted of price rigging and collusion. They had to pay > 10% of what they stole from the consumers. Which is TOTALLY going to disincentivize them from trying it again. The same way Wells Fargo would never try to pull any more scams after they got pun-oh wait.
It's a joke. If you rob someone as a little guy, you pay 100% plus damages. You rob EVERYONE and you're a "job creator".
Set the Fines/Penalties as 3x the Yearly Gross Income of the Company (NOT just the Profits, EVERY PENNY THEY TOOK IN THAT YEAR!) and they'll stop pulling this Shit...
Either that, or they'll spend a LOT of time and effort into making DAMN sure they don't get caught again...
agree in principle, but is double enough of a disincentive? the biggest reason being most CEO's aren't company owners and can collect years of nice fat bonuses thanks to increasing profits through fraud, then when it's discovered and the company pays a fine, the individual who actually ordered the fraud still keeps their proceeds of the fraud. there's also the damage done to competing retailers who were disadvantaged on price for that entire time, and the likelihood that not all frauds will be found and thus if retailers can sneak at least half past then they're still benefitting from fraud.
Bamboo is a rapidly renewable plant.
And it is incredibly soft. It has a very soft "hand", bamboo t-shirts, sleepwear, and quilt batting launders well, and feels amazing.
Steve, I love the shirt, I wonder how many people think the cloud is actually up in the sky, maybe when they read your shirt they'll realize you're just stuck on somebody's hard drive somewhere. Good job!
I saw that and got a good chuckle too.
Just imagine how much of this "bamboo" product is passing through Amazon's hands. I'd be willing to bet that it absolutely beggars what Kohls and Wal-Mart are jointly responsible for!
Amazon is a replica,knock off,counterfeit,undersellers dream....
What they need to do is take ALL of the profit out of deceptive advertising. Don't fine them $5.5 million. Fine them $500 million. THAT will get their attention and take all of the incentive out of lying about their products. The stupid thing about it is that the process of making fabric from bamboo and making rayon is very similar. They both use a very toxic process. The end result for both is a very nice fabric but at what cost to the enviroment? Rayon isn't even made in the U. S. because the process is so dirty. (EPA, etc.)There are more enviromentally friendly processes for making these fabrics but, of course, they are more expensive. Heaven forbid we would have to pay $2.00 more per blouse to save the enviroment. That's way too much.
You forget that people don’t WANT to pay $2 more. That’s why they do it.
Don't fine them a set $500 million. Fine them 120% of the gross profits from selling the products.
Advertisers know how to get around your deception rules. The employ words like "help" that mean nothing but still trick people.
It is too much. And it doesn't save the environment, it makes a bunch of people rich who scam people into thinking they are saving the environment.
Fine them 100% of the *revenue* of selling these products.
Which would probably come out somewhere around 100 million tbh, it is not nearly as big of a thing as some people think.
Profit, even gross profit, can easily be manipulated and is rather thin even in reality. It is neither reliable nor would it amount to much. Fining 100% of the revenue will guarantee they make a net loss (of whatever their cost is) on this "deal".
I've used bamboo clothing for a couple decades (along with cotton, hemp, etc due to adverse skin reactions to most synthetics)... it's popular amongst enviro-minded for its fast growth & minimal maintenence/impact... I just like the comfort. 😅
@LTNetjak No, bamboo can't be readily converted into threads for making fabric out of. It has to be converted into rayon to be used that way.
@@rennnnn914 It can be readily used to make linen fabrics... rayon process is just to create a softer fabric. Both the linen and rayon are often blended with cotton for added pliability & strength.
Rayon is a fiber from regenerated cellulose, generally derived from wood pulp. Rayon is usually made from eucalyptus trees, but any plant can be used (such as bamboo, soy, cotton, etc). To produce the fiber, the plant cellulose goes through a process involving a lot of chemicals, energy and water.
But if done sustainably, you are using "trash" wood instead of scarce petroleum for your chemistry. Yeah, natural products like cotton, wool and linen are probably greener, depending on whether the cotton and flax are farmed sustainably or not. Also, there's the issue of using our limited and shrinking arable land to grow food and not fabric. (Sheep, you get wool plus meat plus dairy.)
As much money as those companies make in one year that would be a $5 parking ticket for us.
We have Zen Plush with Bamboo pillows the tag states All new material 100% polyester fiber batting aka filling. The cover is 85% polyester and 15% rayon made from Bamboo. It was manufactured in Aug 2019.
They need to pass a law requiring companies to pay back 1.5 to 10 times back to amount of profit they make from scams depending on how bad it is ...also they should have to pay the investigation cost as well
This needs to happen. If not it will continue to happen
1.5 to 10 times the revenue not profit. . . The profit is probably a few cents to a dollar per item. They need to be made pay back multiple times the total revenue from sales
Exactly. It’s why Nestle has no problem with continuing to illegally pull water from the reservoirs of now drought-stricken locations to bottle it up and sell right back to the people living there. What do they care if they’re fined $5000 when they make millions off it? Probably factored right into the budget.
No, not the companies, the corp execs. That's the problem. When companies are fined it's the workers who lose, the execs get a bonus check.
Imagine if someone can be highly allergic to rayon and buying something falsely labeled.
How do we know if it is bamboo or if it is rayon? Bamboo is supposed to be antimicrobial. After it is processed into fabric is it still antimicrobial?
Bamboo is denatured so it is not considered bamboo in its final form. it's called Rayon.
It can be IF the fibers are PULLED by hand and SPUN like cotton into fibers. NOT if they are chemically treated obviously.
@@suzannehartmann946 Does that depend on the kind of chemical treatment?
To add, Hemp (the male Cannabis plant) has so many uses that it's an incredible resource. One of those uses is as a textile. You can make a "thread" that is as strong as silk and almost as soft. You would be surprised at how many plants can be used to make clothing or linens.
In the case of rayon, it's modified cellulose, so bamboo is a perfect feedstock for it. It wasn't a lie per'se; more greenwashing something that isn't as green as it seemed. There's a bit of deception on both sides it seems.
Linen is flax
@@cee-emm I know but i was using the word in it's other use, as sheets or fabric on the roll.
@@davidmiller9485 touchè
@@cee-emm :) Have a wonderful day!
About 8 or 9 years ago I bought a pair of bamboo fiber sailing shorts on clearance (good sailing shorts can often run $300+ a pair, so any
That's because they are from real bamboo fiber, not rayon made out of bamboo. They are two very differnt materials.
Bamboo is pushed as much as it is because it's a great Renewable Resource...
Bamboo is a member of the Grass Family of Plants ans grows at a truly insane rate so the time between planting and harvest is fairly short and the stuff just keeps growing (you cut the stalk near the ground and it will sprout a new shoot within a day or 2 if not within hours so one plant can be harvested over and over and over again...so it's an ecologically friendly material to grow and use for wood products (flooring, countertops, cutting boards etc.)...
My guess is that bamboo is popular because it grows 3 feet a day and it considered a natural fibre, like cotton and hemp. Bamboo is also popular as flooring and furnishings….
It's just a buzz word that brain dead walmart shoppers lap up like candy.
I purchased a set of bamboo sheets many years ago from Bed Bath & Beyond, not Kohl's or Walmart. They were quite pricey I asked the sales person if they were really made from bamboo? And she said well yes, that's what it says. I couldn't help thinking I was being taken but purchased them anyway. they are a pretty shade of green, a bit silky and were cooler in hot summer weather. I did get stage 3 cancer within a couple of years but who knows where it came from. I lived. I still have the sheets. May now use them for shade cloth over my garden?
A fine like that to a multi-billion dollar company is like a cop giving a person a fine of 3 cents for speeding...lol.
Bamboo rayon or bamboo viscose is rayon that is made from bamboo. Rayon can be made from other fibers such as pine, beech, or eucalyptus. Bamboo is raised without fertilizers, pesticides, or irrigation and is naturally sustainable. It wicks away moisture and drys much faster than cotton. Bamboo rayon/viscose is often labeled in the US as bamboo. In other countries, it is usually labeled as rayon/viscose made from bamboo.
1:18 Bamboozled! LOL! (Great shirt, too.)
If you want to test something just get a strand of it and burn it. Rayon and nylon will melt and burn, acetate will bubble and burn and bamboo and Cotten will glow and slowly burn and smell like paper.
Rayon is a cool-to-touch, absorbent and breathable fabric. Perfect for sheets. I think Bamboo is called "green" because it is highly renewable as it grows so fast. Faster than trees.
As noted I and others have been discussing and pointing this out for years. The problem isn't "chemicals" literally everything is "chemicals" you and I are made of "chemicals," water in any form is nothing but chemicals. Sure some chemicals can be harmful, but even the notion of "good" and "bad" chemicals is an oversimplification; hell water will kill you if it's too hot, too cold, if try to breathe it or if you drink to much of it. As for Bamboo it originally jumped aboard the hype-train mostly due to ecological considerations. Bamboo is a source of cellulose fiber, a critical feed stock in the production of many products and textiles including those *frightful* semi-synthetic fibers like Rayon. The argument is bamboo is a better alternative to cotton or tree cellulose fiber sources because: Bamboo grows faster than trees or cotton, has a higher yield per land use, fixes more CO2 and generates up to 35 percent more oxygen than similar stands of tree, requires few pesticides or fertilizers and is easier to harvest. While many of those things might be true, not all "cellulose fiber" is the same, there is a reason why cotton for instance has been prized, and arduously cultivated for thousands of years. So questions arise like "How much cotton fiber can I replace with bamboo fiber before the fabric quality turns to shit?" or "How little bamboo feedstock can I include yet still market my underwear as made from bamboo?"
Bottomline: Bamboo has a place in the textile supply chain, but it's no panacea; What is more, without a significant increase in end-consumer transparency in the highly proprietary textile industry, "Made from Bamboo" marketing is meaningless and consumers should not make ecological (or any) assessments based on such marketing.
do your research Dihydrogen Monoxide k1lls and is everywhere in the environment!! ;-)
Remember. Trees are natural. Cut planks are artifacts. :)
The complaint I know about bamboo since 7 years ago, and I believe it was around 7 years ago when I learned of this, bamboo grows underneath not as it grows above, as most plant structures do or can.
Bamboo has both a vertical growth and a horizontal root growth intersected at 90° angles under the ground.
And as some bushes grow with a larger root structure in the ground then what is a parent above, much larger in fact is the bamboo.
Bamboo growth must literally be cordoned off typically by concrete walls underneath the ground to trap its root growth and thereby its ultimate height.
You would never ever never build bamboo near sewer lines especially play pipe exits.
Nor would you want to plant them near any type of outdoor electrical wiring activity that might be buried even only 6 in underneath the soil surface!
Yes oh what a tangled web bamboo does bamboozle weave.
Bamboo is such a great resource, the plant can grow fast enough that the human eye can watch it grow. If we could build stuff out of it, not only would it draw a lot of carbon from atmosphere, it would also provide a lot of material rather cheaply.
The issue is that while you can make rayon out of bamboo (or any plant matter); it's more energy intensive than it seems on the surface, making it no better than cotton; from preliminary research, at least. Bamboo for other purposes does have promise, but there are downsides, like bamboo locking up phosphorus, which is highly essential. What we ideally need is a process to reclaim phosphates from plant matter while leaving the carbon behind that's low energy. We could then bury the carbonaceous material deep, deep underground to sequester it. Or in other words, we need to put all that oil and coal carbon back where we got it from.
@@TheBooban Rayon is not in fact a plastic as you know them, it is not a thermoset polymer like PVC or PP. There's nothing plastic about rayon, you cannot melt it, stretch it or anything else.
On the microscopic level, Rayon is more similar to a manmade cotton than something like nylon or lycra. Don't use words you don't understand the meaning of.
I bet you're one of those bozos who misuses the word 'chemical' too, aren't you? Do you think water is magically not a chemical because it's naturally occuring? XD
I'm surprised you weren't aware of laws around disclosing textile materials, that's basically what those 'do no remove under penalty of law' tags are all about. There was a lot of deception in bedding and textiles once upon a time, hence the strong laws. Thing stuff like filthy recycled textile fills with zero idea what the raw material composition was, or any allergens contained within; it was once a problem on the scale of food adulteration, including using fiberglass to fill mattresses, asbestos and other hazardous materials, or even highly flammable materials like celluloid foam.
Would you buy bedding, towels or clothes if you had no idea what they were made of? I certainly wouldn't want to shop for a mattress if they could sell ones full of fiberglass without disclosing it was.
Laying on a bed of fiberglass sounds comfortable
@@thecrownedjester Try laying on one of those slabs of pink corning fiberglass insulation sometime. *(Disclaimer: You will spend a long time in the hospital for respiratory damage along with micro-cuts all over your body.)*
@@thecrownedjester have you ever worked with or around fiberglass. If you had I don't think you would say it sounds comfortable. Think fiberglass insulation, not fiberglass panels.
odldy enough some of the memory foam mattresses contain fiberglass, says on the tag
@@ShadowFox439 I'm aware; they are also often improperly sealed, hence why I wouldn't want to buy one that contained it. If they didn't have to disclose materials, it would be very hard to avoid.
While Rayon isn’t as easy to test for, There is a test you can perform to distinguish most natural fibers from synthetic ones: hold a single strand in a flame. If it makes ash that flakes away and floats, or disappears, it’s natural (you can also learn the smell of each material when burnt). If it melts and drips or leaves a strand of hard material, or smells like burnt plastic, it’s synthetic.
When I was in India buying a cashmere scarf, I burnt a stray fiber and was pleased to see it was natural. True cashmere, I don't know, but it was definitely soft enough and a natural fiber.
Rayon is cellulose and will thus produce similar results in a burn test to cotton or linen. Wool, silk and other keratin based fibers will smell like burning hair and produce a gritty heavy ash that doesn't float or flake away. Cashmere is a very fine grade of goat hair, so it definitely wouldn't smell like wood or paper when burnt.
@@maryconner9409 interesting. I was wrong. Perhaps your info is why it’s harder to detect Rayon vs. bamboo.
Don’t worry. They will trademark. Bamboo to include Rayon and other synthetic fibers. Yes, I’m that cynical.
Bamboo rayon is still rayon, they will just change the marketing.
I have bamboo in my yard. It is hard to believe that something so itchy can be made into a wearable fabric. The marvel of modern chemistry.
That makes me wonder how environmentally friendly is the process of converting bamboo into a soft fiber.
That is nothing, try wearing cotton! The boll weevils are such a pain!
I have a friend in the National Bamboo Society (US) And he got me a wonderfully comfortable bamboo silk tee shirt. It is warm without getting hot, and breathes moisture out better than wool.
Bamboo contains cellulose fibers, just like wood, cotton, and other plant materials. As with all of them, you can separate the fibers and make paper, thread, yarn, and textiles from those fibers, and the qualities of all those products depend upon the plants from which the fibers came. All of them can be turned into rayon. But between the raw fibers and rayon, they lose the characteristics that distinguish the sources of the fibers. Bamboo fibers are smaller in diameter, less stiff, and softer feeling than cotton and much more so than wood fibers. I have both cotton rope
At first I wondered if the store's knew the producer was doing that but when they continue to sell the product after the warning letters, that means they knew and/or didnt care.
I have had bad boo towels for13 years and they are great! They are more absorbent and wear like iron!
Rayon is made from plant fibers - typically cotton but Rayon can also be made from bamboo. Rayon is the plant based alternative to either animal products like silk or chemical products like Nylon
8:52 The reason bamboo is becoming so popular in textiles, homeware, and other products is because of how fast bamboo grows. Combine that with the diversity of temperature ranges bamboo can grow in, and you've got a tantalizing opportunity for environmentalists to push. You'll probably be able to find a small bamboo plant at your local nursery (slightly different from a garden center at a super-store) if you want to see for yourself how quickly it can grow. The only problem is, the boost in popularity has led to plant-poaching. Places where bamboo grows natively are having to monitor their bamboo forests to catch poachers who destroy the environment. If you're gonna buy a bamboo product, it's best to do a bit of research to avoid paying into the poaching schemes. Accredited local nurseries will likely be just fine, though.
Do not, I repeat do not plant bamboo in your yard. It's invasive and impossible to kill. I have bamboo in my yard, don't know how it got there, and nothing that I've tried can get rid of it. I've tried digging it out, spraying it with herbicides, there isn't enough Roundup in the world to get rid of it. It ought to be illegal to sell it in the US because it doesn't belong here. BTW I live in Massachusetts, you think of bamboo as a tropical plant but winters do phase it
Bamboo is easy to grow, uses a lot less water, easily harvested. The fibers last longer than cotton, softer than cotton. I LOVE MY BAMBOO SHEETS & COMFY CLOTHES... THEY MADE WAY MORE MONEY THAN THE FINES LEVIED. DIRTY TRICKS
Bamboo grows really quickly and as a source of cellulose for rayon is an economic and relatively sustainable way to get the cellulose. The ability to exploit the marketing for an extra buck was just a bonus.
To my understanding at least; the process to convert it makes even bamboo no better than cotton in the end with energy and water usage.
@@kauske It takes even more energy and water to convert than cotton due to the nature of the cellulose.
@@rennnnn914 You don't have to convert cotten, but cotton takes vast amounts of fertilizer, land space (valuable land space at that), and due to the low yield per acre, it does take a lot of energy to grow and harvest it when you factor in all those tractors use diesel, extracting phosphates to feed it takes energy, and it takes a lot of energy to clean and ready the cotten to be made into yarn.
The energy side seems to be deadlocked, but bamboo takes less prime croplands to grow, it can be grown on utterly worthless land and grows far faster than cotton, and just about every part of the plant is able to be turned into rayon. Both have their ups and downs, and neither is clearly better. However, running a rayon plant off of pure solar would be easier than running loads of tractors for cotton growing off the same.
Bamboo is also easier to harvest, meaning it would be easier to have limited equipment to reduce energy usage from fuels for tractors. We can also use bamboo for cheap composite board and fiberboard or directly to make furniture and housing, so it's a multipurpose crop, where cotton is monopurpose as a feedstock for textiles.
Want some rayon history check out the Rayonier logging railroad. It was a big part of the Pacific Northwest logging history. Rayon is made from fir and hemlock trees in the Northwest.
It is possible to make fabric fibers from the bast fibers of bamboo in a process similar to what is used to make linen from flax, but the process is expensive and thus rarely used. Unless the product is comparatively quite expensive, then whatever is labelled as "bamboo" is rayon, although it may be made from bamboo as the cellulose source. Rayon from bamboo isn't anything like a bast fiber fabric.
Rayon is made by chemically processing cellulose from (usually) woody plants, which could be bamboo. In the US, rayon has to be either labelled as rayon or alternately by the process used to make it, such as viscose, modal, tencel, lyocell. Tencel/lyocell is less environmentally damaging than viscose/modal, but it's still rayon. If bamboo was used as the original material, you can say "rayon from bamboo", but you still have to declare it as rayon.
I'm not sure of the legality of having packaging saying "bamboo" all over it, with one small statement on the back saying "tencel" (I see this a lot in fabric and yarn), that's for the lawyers to argue over, but there's a lot of fiber companies that could be in hot water if that's not legal.
I think it is popular as it is easily renewable. It absorbs carbon fronm the air in large amounts. It is the same phase as the hemp movement before it. Both can be broke down in to fibers like linen. As it is a niche market that costs a lot as it is not mass produced. A manufacturer can fake it with what they make and charge a slightly higher price. They do the same with silk and wool. Customers are getting wise and testing the materials. Nowadays they posts results on line. That starts the ball rolling except if it is regulators that ball can be very slow.
Hemp fiber, without any chemical process can be made into a fabric. In the 1700’s farmers were required to grow hemp for making sails (canvas) and rope for the navy. The original Levi’s jeans were made of hemp fiber. Bamboo fabric is a regenerated cellulosic fiber and not a natural fiber. The canvas you get today is cotton canvas, or duck.
As a side note, I love your shirt for today. It makes so much sense as someone into computing.
But who gets the 5 million. The Gov...that makes perfect sense!
Conflict of interest!
After reading comments by people who seem to know how rayons are made I have to wonder if any bamboo cloth is “green”. What kind of chemicals are used to make fibers flexible enough for thread?
I've had bamboo under pants for years, they wick moisture and dry fast, unlike cotton. I never shop walmart or kohls...
Fast cycle requires undies that don't stay wet long?:)
Rayon starts life as cellulose -- a substance found in wood and all manner of plant matter. Cotton is virtually pure cellulose.
The altered-and-dissolved cellulose, which one might conceive as a gelatinous mass, is then processed into fibers.
Bamboo does contain lots of cellulose. I have no idea frankly whether it's an industrial source of cellulose. But it seems likely enough.
It's a sure bet that rayon derived from bamboo isn't particularly special. A rose by any other name...
Bamboo is my batting of choice when I make quilts, because it is a natural fiber and is renewable. Sometimes I can even find organic bamboo batting.
I've never thought of bamboo being something used to make fabric. To me, bamboo is something used for cutting boards, counter tops, flooring etc.
If I were buying a house and had the dough I'd choose bamboo flooring. Hard to damage, takes a fair amount of water, and looks great.
If you want to know what fiber your garment is, you can snip off a small piece of the fabric and do a burn test. There are lots of vids on this platform that demonstrate how various fibers burn. ( Obviously, you want to take that piece from a discrete location on the garment.)
What struck me is both companies were "warned" and 12 years later action is taken. As stated, just how much profit was made BEFORE civil penalties paid? But, in the totality of life, I really don't care! 👍 To your videos.
My answer would've been: I'm just a reseller, I don't test and certify every product coming through this place. But $3 million dollars is such a nothing fine to Wal-Mart that apparently they didn't even bother to pay a lawyer to contest it, it's easier to just pay it and discontinue the product.
All those Walmart shoppers that brag about their 32 dollar bamboo sheets... 🤣🤣🤣
I bought bamboo sheets because I was specifically looking for "cooling" sheets and that's what popped up the most lol. I also prefer natural fibers (cotton, etc.). I suspect there is also an environmental aspect with bamboo being fast growing. In the end, yeah probably just about money.
Do you think that a similar issue occurs with fibres labelled "hemp"?
Interesting, and not surpisingly misleading, our textile industry fabric formulation methodology. Discovered, after fact, rayon was "silk" threaded throughout decorative shiny parts of patterned wool carpet. Purchased cheap, colorful rayon beach/summer attire in clothing section of various drug/department stores in years past, without full knowledge of manufacturing process. My ignorance no excuse, yet now wondering what the dillyo re supposedly more ecologically friendly bamboo toilet tissue. Hmm...long past time to educate myself about textile greenwashing. Thanks for this!
Where does all of the money go for punitive damages?
Lawyers. The punitive damages goes to the lawyers.
The attraction is that bamboo is supposedly a more renewable material and that its a natural fiber. The same goes for hemp. I can’t confirm or deny whether or not it is better for reducing a person’s carbon footprint but that is the marketing strategy from the people who are producing it. I do know that bamboo is one of the fastest growing plants and it makes sense to me that growing bamboo might be better than cutting down trees and I can hope that there is less of an environmental impact when producing bamboo products.
Then again, a well-managed forest has a higher CO2 capture rate, higher biodiversity, and higher carrying capacity for game. Wood products are carbon-neutral and (can be) sustainable.
They have been selling bamboo pillows at state fairs for years. I never bought any because the bamboo I am familiar with is always hard.
I had a bamboo fiber balaclava I used for riding my motorcycle. It tattooed it's dye into my face. Luckily I realized the cause and stopped using it. It took more than a year for it to go away.
I also have a bamboo fiber sleeping bag liner that I used once in the outdoors and on an airplane. That thing quickly feels dirty and it makes me cold. I'm already a cold sleeper and for me that's a bad thing, especially on the airplane which is always kept cold in the United States (on average foreigners are thinner and like it warmer).
I would rather have rayon. Bamboo fiber is terrible in my opinion but it's being pushed by Chinese marketing.
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I had balaclava is a greek restaurant once. I am amazed to hear bamboo could part of it. They must be using the shoots. Cheers!
This put out by the Sleep Foundation: "Sheets labeled as “bamboo” typically consist of rayon, lyocell, or modal fabric derived from bamboo fibers. These sheets are often relatively similar to cotton in their softness, breathability, and durability."
I think the claim of being harmless is what did them in. Rayon can be made from bamboo, but the process,as you mentioned, is not without processing with hazardous chemicals.
For the last couple decades bamboo has been pitched as the wonder wood because it grows quickly and can be formed into flooring, shelving, and countertops, furniture, etc. all with the look of traditional wood. I think its growing cachet is causing manufacturers to push it regardless of any benefit or harm.
I knew about the act from weaving and spinning wool and linen.
Me, too. Fiber artists need to know these things.
Steve, love your "There is no Cloud" shirt. 😀
My understanding is that "Rayon" can be called "a natural fibre" because it is made from wood/plant fibres. It does however require a substantial chemical cocktail, water and energy, to turn those natural ingredients into cloth. As I heard it, "Rayon" is effectively identical to spider-web-silk, but a spider's internal guts make the thread using natural biological processes.
As someone who has used bamboo yarn to make items exclusively for premature babies I think they got off easy. Bamboo is supposed to be antimicrobial and therefore is safer for babies at higher risk.
No, no study has found that bamboo is any more antimicrobial than any other textile fiber. The bamboo industry has a lot to answer for.
Bamboo, cotton, wool are the vegan of fabrics while rayon is like the elephant meat of fabrics.
Love the shirt, so true.
Why is bamboo such a hot topic? It is one of the fastest growing woody materials, even though it is more accurately a grass.
Some varieties can grow as much as 36 inches in a 24-hour period, and bamboo can well tolerate marginal soil conditions, making it a handy plant for re- and afforestation.
Turning bamboo into wood or textiles is where the benefits start to vary, and one needs to closely examine the processes, chemicals and amount of water used.
I find this story incredibly difficult because I grew up near a pulp and paper mill complex that was owned by an international corporation named- ITT Rayonier. The company was based on the chemical treatment of wood fibers that were made into rayon. The corporation owned pulp and paper mills in Washington and Florida.
Go figure.
I work in pulp and paper and do service for a couple Rayonier mills. I never put together Rayonier and rayon until now.
Diversification of products. Nothing unusual abt that.
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Nice job on the zero edit video, Steve!
What is bamboo product good for?
The textile law is the reason mattresses are labeled. Proper ID of fabric is a guide that dry-cleaners live and die by. The clothing manufacturers usually don't make the fabric. It seems the biggest violators are expensive designer brands using a blend of polyester with silk and labeling it as silk, they often construct it with cheap or the wrong thread causing other headaches. It's not uncommon for a dry-cleaner to say we won't do 'brand X'.
If you browse through some of the items on Amazon, you will see items such as chairs, cell phone cases, etc... that are advertised as being leather. Sometimes even as genuine leather or leather fabric. You have to dig through the complete listing, and many times the ratings or questions and answers, to see if it's really leather or vinyl. This is completely deceptive.. and it's not Amazon's fault, but the advertiser's, but Amazon needs to police their listings better.
Good job!! No cuts or edits. Would like to see more.
Ben is behind the new tag Steve's LHS
Did not see it! Jumps out right at you though when you know where to look.
Bamboo is big because it is sustainable. The same reason hemp is big these days for fabrics and paper. Fast growing and renewable both are better alternatives than trees or cotton.
Lmao how is cotton not sustainable… it’s been around before the industrial revolution.
Bamboo here grows 12" to 36" per day making it renewable and sustainable. It has some good uses. Thomas Edison (who had his winter residence here) did all kinds of work with it because it is so plentiful.
Bamboo has antimicrobial properties, I believe. Not sure if rayon made out of bamboo has the same properties. Pretty sure you will be able to find trace amounts of those harmful chemicals in the finished products, though.
I'd lay odds that they were buying the rayon from China, and their suppliers were playing a bit loose with the specifics, while adhering to the essence of the contract... as they viewed things in China.
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Rayon (TM) is a fiber made from cellulose acetate.
Cellulose acetate, and celluloid, have been known since the 1860s
Cellulose is acetylated by acetic acid (concentrated from vinegar in the old day). The cellulose comes from various plants, which can include cotton and bamboo, as well as waste wood.
Cellulose acetate is a thermoplastic, and it can be mixed with other chemicals to make things like billiard ball and screwdriver handles, or photographic film.
Our dollar store here in town sells all kinds of bamboo products, bedding, cutting boards, etc. Walmart has always and always will jump though and use every loop hole that brings in a profit no matter the cost to get that profit including lose of life. This is my opinion after working for the company.
So what is that bamboo toilet paper made from?
So this is a weird one in that all bamboo fabric is rayon. Not all rayon is bamboo. In 2017 many rayon producers changed the processing to make it significantly more eco-friendly. Most rayon now is actually better for the environment than non organic cotton. I love rayon and learned about it because I'm allergic to polyester.
Linen sheets are the shit. Love sheets made from linen. And linen is a natural fiber. And it lasts a lot longer in my experience than cotton.
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You are missing out on the bamboo. I have been buying bamboo t-shirts and polo’s for years. Soft, cool and comfortable.