big fan of your channel and content. Not a big fan of the "destroyed" - it is simply wrong. She won a hand. Nobody got "destroyed" - language escalation leading to the deterioration of the meaning of power words. Don't be like the rest of the plebs please. You are better and more intelligent than that.
The best table talk of the hand was "Eric, I was this close to folding... You are so good" Tilly doing everyone at the table a favor by keeping the fish coming back.
@@gmatsue84 you should pay attention more. Tilley has been crushing these live streams and televised cash games the past 10 years. She's one of the biggest money winners statistically. She started out poorly when she was new to the game but she rocks it now, likely using that image that you and others portray her as a poor player to her advantage.
Eric is the definition of how wealthy people get into poker with absolutely no skill, the guy has never played anything that was memorable and he is only popular off the remarks he made to Phil.
He has gotten into some of the best peoples heads, this can't be denied. Look at his table talk against Garrett. He uses that well, but i would also agree his act has gone stale.
@@JamesThompson-p4r I think one of the problems is that he's more famous for his antics than his actual poker, he comes off more as obnoxious as opposed to somebody who's trying to gain information. I can see you when Daniel negrano talks a lot to try to gather information, but this guy just seems like he wants to go viral, but in the end of the day, it's just an opinion, wish you the best
@@jasonwest2920 he has never made any type of play that was memorable, as I stated before, he is more popular for his table talk then his actual game, another billionaire that wants to be famous
Not a fish...he's a whale and loves playing in big pots and being aggressive (especially against women and situations where he thinks people are playing on tilt). You almost HAVE to call him with any made hand
"That should be a t-shirt for divorced men" That joke was GOLD! Persson should just SHUT UP and let them figure out for themselves if they are going to call or not. His table talk is so easily figured out.
Just call the freakin’ bet. You’ve got a straight. He doesn’t have jackshit. He’s tryna’ buy the pot. The call should be automatic. What are you worried about? You’re so convinced he probably has a higher straight. He ain’t got nothin’………. Maybe this is why I could never play poker for a living. I don’t let people get away with squat. I call ‘em down on the river very frequently unless my holdings are absolute garbage. You’re gonna buy a lot fewer pots with me around. Hold’em is such a sick game anyway. With the rise in popularity of the WSOP and televised poker back in the early 2000’s, I was so sorry to see it surpass seven card stud in popularity, and basically make seven stud (which was the primary game being spread almost everywhere in Nevada back in the 80s, when I played a lot) nearly extinct. For one thing, 7-stud was so much more FUN to play than Hold’em. Hands down, no contest. But Hold’em was the “pro’s game”, the poker game that included a larger skill factor than stud, and that’s why it beat out stud as the game that took over even in the low-level primary games that casinos were spreading. How sad. It’s a boring-ass piece of shit game all the way IMAO, compared to almost every other form of poker, including stud, lowball, and especially 7-stud High-Low 8 or better, and also, Omaha High-Low 8 or better (which is the only community board poker game that I actually enjoy and find intriguing). Shit, I even like 5-card draw poker better than Hold’em (5-card draw used to be the primary game when I played in California back in the 80’s and 90’s, when the players dealt the game, and the deal passed from one player to the next, and the casino collected a $1 chip from every player for time every half an hour.) Anyway, all the hullabaloo about Texas Hold ‘Em (it’s even got a stupid, lousy-sounding moniker, too) and the perception-particularly amongst younger generations (who don’t know any better, and who have never played anything else, because Hold’Em is the only game being pushed these days) that’s it’s the one and only poker game. What a crock of total nonsense-and all those youngsters don’t even know it. I find it utterly sad that the very worst poker game in terms of the enjoyment factor that I get out of playing it is the one that skyrocketed into the stratosphere in terms of popularity. So sorry to see the game of casino poker go to hell in a handbasket and devolve until all the fun went out of it. To me, the only part of Texas Hold’Em poker that has any intrigue to it is the no limit aspect of the betting, but the card game itself is an utter bore to me otherwise. Just one man’s opinion, coming from someone who’s seen generations of the game morph into what is now “casino poker”………. And to anyone who wants to remind me that yes, there are still a few places like big cardrooms (and even a few little ones) in California and elsewhere that still spread the occasional stud or Omaha game, etc., Yeah, I know. The conversation here has to do with the rule, and not so much the occasional exceptions. The general rule is that Hold’Em is the primary game almost everywhere you go these days, and in many places, it’s the only game being spread. Its exposure since the televised WSOP started soaring in popularity over 20 years ago changed the public perception of poker and the dynamics of casino poker worldwide. A few guys like me who are now old timers say : Not for the better. But, I’m not trying to make my living playing the game. That ship sailed decades ago.……….
Generally good advice. The only thing I've done with some success before is to offer to show if they fold. For some people they talk themselves into a call because they can't stand knowing if they've been beat or not, and they don't want to go home wondering/ never knowing. Offering to show gives them a way out, they can fold and still find out if they were good or not. I have got a couple of lay downs of hands that were beating me with that. Not for massive amounts, but couple of hundred dollars in one case.
She could have folded there.. don't think Tilly has much money. Person's only shot was saying something like "You have been very unlucky tonight, and I'd hate to see you lose to 6-3, if it was anyone else on this table I'd be quiet but 66k is a lot of money, rather save it for another day, Im trying to help you here" lol.. that was a muck
My poker dream scenario is for me to make it to the final table against Tilly dressed in all black. She wins in the end but not with out me first taking away Chukee’s girl.
Bear in mind there's a lot of missed draws here. If you reverse Hellmuth and Tilly here and it's the flush draw + backdoor straight that's come along, they've bricked on the river and your pair is good. So he beats a lot of missed flush draws and he beats all the non-A 2 bigs that have bricked.
Seriously, the HEE HAW theme song should just automatically play whenever Persson is in a hand. 💯 Have an A.I. Junior Samples squealing in the background.....
Normally, the bluff is not a bad idea against Tilly, but the only thing he beats is a busted draw. He's way too loose, but he's got way more money than I do.
The decision Phil faces on the turn is so nasty when you're multiway - depending on the compositional effects of both your opponents' hands, you can be drawing stone dead and not even realize it. When the money starts going in, even when you hit your hand, how confident are you that you have the best of it? Even if you get reverse implied odded infrequently, it can be enough to turn a +EV call into a negative one. I'm not suggesting the fold was necessarily correct - I can't really say, as I lack the expertise. But, it is a difficult strategic spot.
First time I ever have seen Tilly cover the goods. Cute shirt though. And table talk? It’s all in the art. When in doubt stay silent isn’t a bad policy, buuut, if you can relax and just enjoy yourself, be natural and that’s the best you can do. Personally I wouldn’t try to misrepresent my hand, but I might playfully be like, “hmm well let me check and see what I have again.” And then smile and ask “how much to show one of my cards?”
A correct fold though. WHen Tilly calls the turn he knows she at least has an A or better already (or the A high flush draw). He's smart and decided to play safe and fold. You don't win at poker by gambling...you win at poker by playing smart. (just don't blow up like he does lol)
STFU I would be willing to bet that he won't though. I am not sure what he could say to get her to fold. I have seen her talk herself out of a call before.
The talk/silent is an individual matter. I never talk, so I'd sit there quietly as usual. FWIW, I don't agree with Tilly's assessment of Persson's poker skills.
With a weak top pair on a draw heavy board multi way, the LAST thing you would want to do if you're Eric is start building a large pot where you give draws great implied odds to call and you can't really improve or navigate future streets 😂 wtf is he doing? 😂😂😂
Persson is a treat to play with. Every pro poker player's dream is to play against the omega whale Persson.😅 I do wonder how much $$ he is down since he started playing streamed tables. Must be millions.
No gamble no future..... 2nd nut flush draw and gut shot folds on turn with 4:1 odds and speech play on river from 3rd nuts. Producer needs to be fired
She is not a good player. That much time to overthink everything. K.I.S.S. method should apply. His betting pattern was clearly busted flush draw or maybe a set. Him was a Straight makes NO sense for that betting line.
I have never respected Tilly as a player and I see this as a donkey unintentional slowroll call....you are calling 100% of the time...shut up and snap call...if he miracled you so be it..the fact she may have been close to folding shows her own donkness
Phil is trash...he is such a damn knit. He places as if he is broke in real life and can't afford to play these stakes. He is most definitely not a "genius". These new players crush him and for all those wins he hasn't won the most money either...🤷🏾
When I know I’m beat in a bad bluff, I definitely tilt out loud, realize they could still make a mistake, and then clam up, hoping my out loud tilt mistake is taken for overacting.
Persson's Casinos print money. He is not aware he is the classic fish/whale. He thinks he is a great poker player. But he's good for the game. $$$ KAching$$$
Are YOU more or less likely to bluff on your final hand of a cash game? 🤯
Have to throw bluffs if u aint a leading stack
big fan of your channel and content. Not a big fan of the "destroyed" - it is simply wrong. She won a hand. Nobody got "destroyed" - language escalation leading to the deterioration of the meaning of power words. Don't be like the rest of the plebs please. You are better and more intelligent than that.
I just stay calm, say nothing, look calmly at the pot, look at her chips, look at the pot again, playing a bit with chips...
Definitely think that the mathematical calculations can go out the window on the last chance to make money.
Keep calm, say nothing, it keeps them off guard.
The best table talk of the hand was "Eric, I was this close to folding... You are so good"
Tilly doing everyone at the table a favor by keeping the fish coming back.
she is a world class actress for a reason
She's the biggest fish there, everyone's happy
@@gmatsue84lol this woman has bracelets, WPT Wins, and a legit Hendonmob
Shes the fish budd come on.
@@gmatsue84 you should pay attention more. Tilley has been crushing these live streams and televised cash games the past 10 years. She's one of the biggest money winners statistically. She started out poorly when she was new to the game but she rocks it now, likely using that image that you and others portray her as a poor player to her advantage.
Eric is the definition of how wealthy people get into poker with absolutely no skill, the guy has never played anything that was memorable and he is only popular off the remarks he made to Phil.
@@robsab531 😁😁😁😁
He has gotten into some of the best peoples heads, this can't be denied. Look at his table talk against Garrett. He uses that well, but i would also agree his act has gone stale.
@@JamesThompson-p4r I think one of the problems is that he's more famous for his antics than his actual poker, he comes off more as obnoxious as opposed to somebody who's trying to gain information. I can see you when Daniel negrano talks a lot to try to gather information, but this guy just seems like he wants to go viral, but in the end of the day, it's just an opinion, wish you the best
You have no idea what you are talking about he has played in the highest levels of cash poker not on tv or TH-cam but in private games
@@jasonwest2920 he has never made any type of play that was memorable, as I stated before, he is more popular for his table talk then his actual game, another billionaire that wants to be famous
It's always fun to see JT do well.
When Tilly mentioned they could be chopping, the look in his eyes say it all.
Old Tilly lied and was never close to folding!🤣🤣🤣
Don't mess with Tilly. Oh hell no😂😂😂😂😂
Jennifer Tilly has got to be the greatest of all time.
Eric Persson is the biggest fish alive
the way he just immediately starts pulling out chips i would put this dude on exactly 66 and a random 5 lol
i just wanna say tilly was a masterclass there with the way she checked, she really put out "I'm a bit nervous here" vibes
Not a fish...he's a whale and loves playing in big pots and being aggressive (especially against women and situations where he thinks people are playing on tilt). You almost HAVE to call him with any made hand
@@brianpotter2812 i think anybpoker player can exploit him and make some profit
@@brianpotter2812 he is a huge fish dude. get real
Always like seeing Jennifer scooping huge pots. She is underrated as poker player and an actress.
"That should be a t-shirt for divorced men" That joke was GOLD! Persson should just SHUT UP and let them figure out for themselves if they are going to call or not. His table talk is so easily figured out.
I just know nuclear bombs were going off in Persson’s eyes when she said “so you MUST have a 3. In your head”
Call me crazy but he kind of reacted passively too which looked like a tell.
@@petecabrina yeah, he gets really quiet when he’s either bluffing with a little to lose or when he doesn’t want to get embarrassed
For "Bound" alone, Never Speak ill Of
👑 Jennifer Tilly ...
("The Getaway" with Michael Madsen was
also a good start.) 'Hotness' lasts in Memory.
Just call the freakin’ bet. You’ve got a straight. He doesn’t have jackshit. He’s tryna’ buy the pot. The call should be automatic. What are you worried about? You’re so convinced he probably has a higher straight. He ain’t got nothin’……….
Maybe this is why I could never play poker for a living. I don’t let people get away with squat. I call ‘em down on the river very frequently unless my holdings are absolute garbage. You’re gonna buy a lot fewer pots with me around.
Hold’em is such a sick game anyway. With the rise in popularity of the WSOP and televised poker back in the early 2000’s, I was so sorry to see it surpass seven card stud in popularity, and basically make seven stud (which was the primary game being spread almost everywhere in Nevada back in the 80s, when I played a lot) nearly extinct. For one thing, 7-stud was so much more FUN to play than Hold’em. Hands down, no contest. But Hold’em was the “pro’s game”, the poker game that included a larger skill factor than stud, and that’s why it beat out stud as the game that took over even in the low-level primary games that casinos were spreading. How sad. It’s a boring-ass piece of shit game all the way IMAO, compared to almost every other form of poker, including stud, lowball, and especially 7-stud High-Low 8 or better, and also, Omaha High-Low 8 or better (which is the only community board poker game that I actually enjoy and find intriguing). Shit, I even like 5-card draw poker better than Hold’em (5-card draw used to be the primary game when I played in California back in the 80’s and 90’s, when the players dealt the game, and the deal passed from one player to the next, and the casino collected a $1 chip from every player for time every half an hour.)
Anyway, all the hullabaloo about Texas Hold ‘Em (it’s even got a stupid, lousy-sounding moniker, too) and the perception-particularly amongst younger generations (who don’t know any better, and who have never played anything else, because Hold’Em is the only game being pushed these days) that’s it’s the one and only poker game. What a crock of total nonsense-and all those youngsters don’t even know it. I find it utterly sad that the very worst poker game in terms of the enjoyment factor that I get out of playing it is the one that skyrocketed into the stratosphere in terms of popularity.
So sorry to see the game of casino poker go to hell in a handbasket and devolve until all the fun went out of it. To me, the only part of Texas Hold’Em poker that has any intrigue to it is the no limit aspect of the betting, but the card game itself is an utter bore to me otherwise.
Just one man’s opinion, coming from someone who’s seen generations of the game morph into what is now “casino poker”……….
And to anyone who wants to remind me that yes, there are still a few places like big cardrooms (and even a few little ones) in California and elsewhere that still spread the occasional stud or Omaha game, etc.,
Yeah, I know.
The conversation here has to do with the rule, and not so much the occasional exceptions. The general rule is that Hold’Em is the primary game almost everywhere you go these days, and in many places, it’s the only game being spread. Its exposure since the televised WSOP started soaring in popularity over 20 years ago changed the public perception of poker and the dynamics of casino poker worldwide.
A few guys like me who are now old timers say : Not for the better.
But, I’m not trying to make my living playing the game. That ship sailed decades ago.……….
Thanks. She’s a mystery. ✌🏻👊🏼
"So you don't think I have an 8 with my 6 two hearts. Missed the flush rivered the nuts."....silence staring at the board.
Jennifer Tilly old school. Played and was a partner of one of the best
That was a great call on Jennifer’s part. Glad she came to the right conclusion.
I love J tills! she always has fun when she plays at least
LOVE Jennifer Tilly!!! class actor
I keep quiet in every situation.
Generally good advice.
The only thing I've done with some success before is to offer to show if they fold. For some people they talk themselves into a call because they can't stand knowing if they've been beat or not, and they don't want to go home wondering/ never knowing.
Offering to show gives them a way out, they can fold and still find out if they were good or not.
I have got a couple of lay downs of hands that were beating me with that. Not for massive amounts, but couple of hundred dollars in one case.
U have a 3 right persons knew he was toast 😂😂😂😂😂
The look on his face was a total tell. It's like he didn't even see the potential straight on the board.
Eric gave away so much info after he bet flop to then send another barrel on the turn
She could have folded there.. don't think Tilly has much money. Person's only shot was saying something like "You have been very unlucky tonight, and I'd hate to see you lose to 6-3, if it was anyone else on this table I'd be quiet but 66k is a lot of money, rather save it for another day, Im trying to help you here" lol.. that was a muck
I wonder why you used a slightly dated picture of Tilly in the thumbnail
I stay silent only because I don’t trust myself enough to table talk without giving anything away. lol
tilly is a great player
This is a snap call, against Perrson and last hand of the nite. I love Tilly but thats a nit roll.
My poker dream scenario is for me to make it to the final table against Tilly dressed in all black. She wins in the end but not with out me first taking away Chukee’s girl.
Eric plays some peculiar hands. That is saying it nicely.
I never enjoy seeing somebody lose as much as I enjoy seeing Eric Persson losing. The High Roller Donkey.
What is he trying to sell as the bluff? 86?
Bear in mind there's a lot of missed draws here. If you reverse Hellmuth and Tilly here and it's the flush draw + backdoor straight that's come along, they've bricked on the river and your pair is good. So he beats a lot of missed flush draws and he beats all the non-A 2 bigs that have bricked.
I think that’s a nitroll tbh
I think that clickbait photo of Tilly was probably from 1990
You know I was going to say nearly the same ........ thumbnail and reality ........ I feel cheated ............ ah thanks for the mammories .........
Wow how tedious was that no brainer call.
commentary was absolutely boring, turned a 4 minute clip into a 12 minute clip
a made straight would have put more pressure on the turn vs 2 opponents that were possible looking for a flush.
Didn't force Tilly to put pressure on the other two players with a straight.
Seriously, the HEE HAW theme song should just automatically play whenever Persson is in a hand. 💯 Have an A.I. Junior Samples squealing in the background.....
Normally, the bluff is not a bad idea against Tilly, but the only thing he beats is a busted draw. He's way too loose, but he's got way more money than I do.
Why did airball quit hustler
She wants him to bluff her again hahaha
Excellent call, Jennifer! ❤
This would be a much better video if the face in the upper right hand corner would just shut and go away.
How old is the pic of Tilly in the thumbnail? 😂😂 She hasn't looked like the in 20 years, at least.
I never would have tried a 4 street bluff. I would've folded flop
yeah that's an easy fold on the flop. the only value in his hand was if he hit a spade draw and a pair on the flop or 3 nines or something like that.
The decision Phil faces on the turn is so nasty when you're multiway - depending on the compositional effects of both your opponents' hands, you can be drawing stone dead and not even realize it. When the money starts going in, even when you hit your hand, how confident are you that you have the best of it? Even if you get reverse implied odded infrequently, it can be enough to turn a +EV call into a negative one.
I'm not suggesting the fold was necessarily correct - I can't really say, as I lack the expertise. But, it is a difficult strategic spot.
Also - Jonathan please get in touch w/ Tilly's people and get her some poker coaching, stat.
shut up
Love Tilly but really gotta use a pic from 1992 for her?
First time I ever have seen Tilly cover the goods. Cute shirt though.
And table talk? It’s all in the art. When in doubt stay silent isn’t a bad policy, buuut, if you can relax and just enjoy yourself, be natural and that’s the best you can do. Personally I wouldn’t try to misrepresent my hand, but I might playfully be like, “hmm well let me check and see what I have again.” And then smile and ask “how much to show one of my cards?”
you call its all over baby
What a nitty-ass fold, Phil
A correct fold though. WHen Tilly calls the turn he knows she at least has an A or better already (or the A high flush draw). He's smart and decided to play safe and fold. You don't win at poker by gambling...you win at poker by playing smart. (just don't blow up like he does lol)
Easy shove on flop
STFU I would be willing to bet that he won't though. I am not sure what he could say to get her to fold. I have seen her talk herself out of a call before.
Presson is the biggest Douschbag in poker....nice tank top😂😂😂😂
There is a problem with your interface : i clicked many times on "stay silent", but it keeps putting the video on pause. It's very annoying.
Sorr, what do you mean?
@@PokerCoaching No just a joke, sorry. Played dumb.
Sorry can do without the extra commentary. 😮😮😮😮😮
Persson and Tesla . Advertising that you don't really have to have a clue when you play poker as it's 95% luck
Tilly looks about 60 years older at the table than on the Thumbnail
Used a thumbnail of a younger her, along with Hellmuth, you just can't tell because he basically wears the same thing every damn time.
The way she way overdoes her makeup she kinda reminds me of Mimi from Drew Carey Show
I know, right. I was gonna comment, but you beat me to it.
@@patrickplayspokerbadly6230 Ouch !
The talk/silent is an individual matter. I never talk, so I'd sit there quietly as usual. FWIW, I don't agree with Tilly's assessment of Persson's poker skills.
I haven't seen Persson for a while on here ..... he's such fish !
Like most people I suppose, more likely to bluff last hand.
Still think most of these shows are fake.
Interesting! What do you think is faked?
Why'd you use a 20 year old pic?! 🤣🤣
Persson is the Worst.
Good for Jen 👍
Is this her only winning session?
With a weak top pair on a draw heavy board multi way, the LAST thing you would want to do if you're Eric is start building a large pot where you give draws great implied odds to call and you can't really improve or navigate future streets 😂 wtf is he doing? 😂😂😂
I remember watching her play when she first started and she was HORRIBLE. But after getting coached or whatever, she got a lot better.
Unabomber "coaches" her every night .......
Oh my god CALL!!!!!!!!!
Clicked on it because amazing looking girl im thumbnail.. only to see my grandma. Thia is misrepresentation
This doesn’t make any sense. So many people in the hand. Last hand so people are splashy. Very likely tilly or Phil have a 3. This is just a punt
Cmon man. I like Tilly as a person but she has dumped so much money on HSP and other games. She is the fish. Lets be honest.
Phil Hellmuth the greatest player not only on Earth but in all of every multiverse. We are lucky to see such talent
Persson is a treat to play with. Every pro poker player's dream is to play against the omega whale Persson.😅 I do wonder how much $$ he is down since he started playing streamed tables. Must be millions.
Persson talks so much that it’s odd that he’s being quiet. I like how she tortured him by taking her time.
Yes people write what they want about her slow rolling, it's a lesson for Persson that he needed tbh
I would have talked a little about 68 of hearts might have gotten a fold.
Bluffed off over $120k .
I think YOU should sit there and BE QUIET!
Persson 🤣🤣
DOUBLE COMMENTARY SHOWING THE HAND PLAY TWICE OVER SUCKS
Love seeing Persson lose!!
Person loves torching money. What a fool
what is she thinking about there so much. that's a shove
This y I love her man
Commentary not needed 😮jeez
No gamble no future..... 2nd nut flush draw and gut shot folds on turn with 4:1 odds and speech play on river from 3rd nuts. Producer needs to be fired
She is not a good player. That much time to overthink everything. K.I.S.S. method should apply. His betting pattern was clearly busted flush draw or maybe a set. Him was a Straight makes NO sense for that betting line.
Hellmuth is calling stations guy
What I learned is that Persson is worse than Hellmuth, but he'll beat Hellmuth any day
"He know's he's Toast!" Best commentary ever, 😁
😂
Dude, shut up quit talking and just let them play the video,
Persson is the ultimate fish. No skill😅
Este hombre es un gambler debería tener prohibido jugar por su bien😅😅😅
Who doesn't age? Imo she's still hot
I have never respected Tilly as a player and I see this as a donkey unintentional slowroll call....you are calling 100% of the time...shut up and snap call...if he miracled you so be it..the fact she may have been close to folding shows her own donkness
It's a nit roll, not a slow roll.
I’d start talking and telling them to call. Because sometimes it works in reverse. 😁
Phil is trash...he is such a damn knit. He places as if he is broke in real life and can't afford to play these stakes. He is most definitely not a "genius". These new players crush him and for all those wins he hasn't won the most money either...🤷🏾
you talk and pause too much
stay silent
Next time use a current picture.
When I know I’m beat in a bad bluff, I definitely tilt out loud, realize they could still make a mistake, and then clam up, hoping my out loud tilt mistake is taken for overacting.
My question is, DOES HELLMUTH ONLY OWN ONE OF THOSE SHIRTS? That hole in his elbow is REAL! 😂
Persson's Casinos print money. He is not aware he is the classic fish/whale. He thinks he is a great poker player. But he's good for the game. $$$ KAching$$$