Love this video, so helpful! I'm a huge fan of the railing block, myself. I enjoy being able to repair, shoot, and perhaps most importantly paint thru shapes 😛
Every time I watched you build one of your "melee stations," I always wondered what block would work best for underneath. Now, I know it's Railings... and why 😎👍
This was really informative mate. I have been using the railings myself but didn't realise there were so many blocks with collision turned off. Thanks Eko, I'll definitely try some of these.
This is interesting not just for turrets, but also has useful implications for powered doors. if a turret can track through those blocks, motion sensors work past those blocks as well. That could help solve the "two sides and one trigger" problem powered doors run into in a new and interesting way. I would be worried that cops will also see / spit through them though.
You want to know something that will blow your mind? Motion sensor can sense through walls :) It's the dumbest thing ever, and I found that out the hard way on my last base and had to rewire them because I was triggering the garage doors a floor above through concrete w/ a motion sensor. try it out!
@@WaywardEko What? Is that another bug for alpha 20? I know in alpha 19 they could see through certain blocks but they sure didn't see through most of them.
Your timing is impeccable, currently doing a wasteland only run and just started construction of the horde base. I've got some ideas now. Thank you for the Video Eko, you da man ❤
Doing some (very) brief testing, some blocks that seem to work like the now patched Baluster Corner 01 are: Siding Burnt 01 - Has way less hit points then a full block would, but you can shoot straight through it and one side is identical to the side of a full block. Plate Bracket Centered - This is the magic block for now I think. Has full hit points and one face that is identical to a full block. Can shoot straight through it like it isn't there. Cube 1/2 Centered Confessional - Honorable mention. Doesn't have a full face like the previous two but you can shoot straight through it even if it is oriented side on such that there is no visible gap that you would be shooting through. Might be applicable in some niche ways. Happy building.
I thought I was the one that invented the wheel with the Balusters lmao, but man when I found out about them I couldn't believe my eyes at all. It works. It just works.
@@WaywardEko Most possibly lmfao Also, not sure if you know, but if you place Powered Hatches on a block on the floor (vertically to one side so the hatch door opens down towards the floor and closes upwards, you can set them with motion sensors so as to make the sensor tell the hatches when to open up when detecting zombies, and place turrets behind the hatches. Since the hatches will be closed with no motion, the turrets won't have any line of sight and thus not shoot unneccessarily at either normal zombies, or stuff like bunnies. Saves a lot of ammo and repairs for horde night. I have the hatches, and electric fences operating all by motion sensors so when a zombie shows up, everything is powered up for an instant, the zombie dies, and I don't waste much power usage in the process, but it's like a bunker. All closed up until a zombie shows up and the bunker opens up and turrets start raining hell on them then the hatches close again. It's fun, should give it a try.
Good information is welcome. You just through the book of Good information our way. That is not welcome but loved. Very much appreciation WaywardEko. You are No.1
the one problem i'm encountering with the metal truss 3d block is that zombies can end up inside them, seems mostly to happen when they ragdoll from being stunned.
I typically use them in places where they are unlikely to ragdoll, so I haven't seen that. That said I've seem them glitch through a lot in A20, so I'm not surprised.
Nice vid bro! TH-cam took its sweet time recommending me some decent 7D2D tutorial creators, as I'm new to the scene. Love your work! Time to get crafting
@@WaywardEko I already make fully autonomous AFK horde bases that survive very late game but this makes a big change in the way I will look at the blocks and integration into traps and other features. My Last base was a fully AFK with nothing more than 2 sledges and fall damage to kill the horde
@@WaywardEko, I was wondering if they made changes since this video. Of course they had to nerf blocks. Good to know. Thanks for the info & especially what to look for in the coding! Subscribed.
Thanks for the very informative Tests! The Railings and 3d Trussing alone are very nice blocks to know, but the Baluster Corner opens up so much nice Design possibilities!
I used trussing 3d in my horde base on my new playthrough, I only used it because it was one of the 2 blocks available in Alpha 9 to 12 that you could stand on and shoot through for horde base overhangs and now to see an OG keystone horde base component come back as a pivotal use in a horde base is kinda poetic. I didn't think to use it as a part of an endgame base to take advantage of its small hitbox, in fact I was annoyed when I upgraded a block I didn't intend to, through my trussing blocks. Will consider using these shapes as the weeks go by. Very concise and informative 7 Days to Die channel, subbed and liked.
@@WaywardEko Was planning to start on some PvP once exams are over, initially thought arrow slits would have been a good way to have a wide arc of fire from a vantage point while enemies have a small angle to hit you from but guess not. I think with regards to maybe a follow up for future tutorials would be to cover which shapes have hitboxes that can be melee'd through, and which ones are ideal for melee horde bases.
Nice info. Easy for TFP to patch some of those out, if they wanted to. I've been using the railing block a LOT since I found out about it, and since the arrow slits were changed. I'm still looking for a high visibility replacement for the horizontal poles at my fighting point though (i put a rail on the bottom and pole block on top right now, but keep shooting the pole block when dogs arrive). Round ladders might be worth a try.
Yeah - never know what they will decide to shift. My guess for the baluster corner is that it got slipped in with the baluster rail as an accident. Some of the other blocks are a little bizarre.
Protecting switches and other controls is going to be the most useful thing I use from this video. Dealt with one cop getting in and my switches were all kaputz
Since they added the shutters, I typically put all my switches behind shutters now. I will hide relays behind railings for access, but only if they aren't in line of sight of potential cop spit.
Great video, amazing how much thought was put into it! Can I ask though, with bullets being able to be fired through, does that mean cop spit can come in also?
Thanks Teisharocz! Yes - you are spot on in your assumption. Cops/Vulture spit can pass through so I recommend putting traps behind them instead of standing behind some of those special blocks ... or if you are using the railings - be aware that they can shoot through.
You mentioned looking for blocks that have interesting implications for gardening. I'm also interested in blocks that allow you to hide solar banks. If there are blocks that appear solid but let sunlight through, that's really intriguing to me.
Awesome Video! Incredibly informative. I'd give it more likes if i could. One question though... does cop (or vulture) vomit count as the same kind of projectile as bullets/arrows? Or are there any "one way mirrors" which allow gunfire, but protect against cop vomit? I was under the impression that the arrow slits could do this. But I'm not positive, and are there others? PS: I really miss being able to reach through arrow slits.
Glad you enjoyed! Cop spit counts as a projectile same as bullets/arrows. There are no one-way mirrors. Arrow slits just give the illusion of this. Try tossing a spear through one of them and you'll see it goes right through ... even the meaty part.
At 12:54, what are the blocks you are using for melee combat? I'm used to just using standard small square corner pillars (can't remember proper name).
Question: Is there a diagonal block you can connect wires through? Like the the slanted security gate but you can wire through and repair? Even a hollow ramp. I need something that can go along side a ramp but you can repair through. Thanks!!! Great video!! I needed all that info! :) I'm doing my version of the GNS horde base and am making stuff up as I go :)
Answer: LOL.. between yesterday and today i found a solution in game. The ladder, the not cute one, rustic one, has a diagonal version. IT ALLOWS WIRING!! lol... i tried everything in game... I didn't know it was there and it works!! I can climb up it and wire through it. Hope it helps someone else :)
Great video and thorough explanation. So I have a group that is surviving blood moon events BUT we get envious of all the loot bags that drop and then disappear. All that fat lewt goes no where. We have a bigger area with a pit for pipe bombs and blade traps, BUT was thinking about making the floor of this pit out of steel bars, then add two blocks below so we can walk around and collect loot bag drops by looking up (only zombie issues SHOULD be cops spitting and demolitioners exploding. Is there a bar shake that would let the loot bags fall through? OR is there a slopped block that would have the bags all fall to a collection point (kind of thinking out loud here) and collect the stacks of loot Bags from A secure entry point???
No blocks that the loot bags would fall through. I have seen people build underground fighting positions so that when the zombies drop stuff, it rolls to the fighting position where you can snag it. You can also do something like I did on my Winter’s Edge base which has two fighting lanes inside the base that you can switch one off and loot during horde night.
on the balister corner, can zombies see through it? I have noticed in my gaming that spitting cops were attacking me from the side with spit while I had regular solid rectangle blocks for that express purpose, i.e. prevent them from seeing me. This happened on consecutive horde nights too. So I'm going to check this out after your block revelations that is if they can see through blocks. Thanks again.
I need to put a note at the top of the video - they change the baluster block in A21. It’s no longer the magical block it was. Cop spit is becoming an issue with any non-full block sadly.
In regards to your turrets in this video, do spray bullets end up damaging the opposite turret? Is that what had caused the damage when you were showing us how they can be accessed to repair them? I guess in a kill corridor, you could just have one turret per block/row and stagger them.
Block health is dictated by material, not shape. They briefly changed that and then reverted back to all blocks having the same health after the community raged.
I am currently playing with these blocks in creative mode and I am unable to access the dart traps through either the 3d trussing blocks or the railings. Anything I am missing? Thanks for the videos, liked and subscribed!
Now, with this information readily available to all, the question begs to be answered; At what points in a horde base is each block most useful, and why? I'm looking forward to seeing those answers come out in future brilliant builds of yours, Eko.
If bullet collision is off, does that mean puke will pass through? Can cops see thru blocks that they can shoot thru? Or do they break line of sight and prevent cops from puking?
I saw your answer other comments that puke will pass thru, but you haven't touched on line of sight (will a screamer see you?) And/or opacity and farming applications
is there a way to make it so u can see thru the blocks you can shoot thru but not see thru so u can tell where zombies are & shoot them urself? or is it only good for turrets? what would be good would be some sort of one way mirror/window thing like they have in police station interrogation rooms.. especially for pvp... so you can shoot enemies but they cant see you
The best trick there is to put a shutter down and then make sure you have a 1/4 block centered below it so you can throw through but won't fall through. My base video coming out later this week will use that mechanic.
What I still wonder is ... a block YOU can shoot through ... also a COP could spit through? ...and it won't protect the blocks behind it in case a demolisher's exploding...!?
I am fairly certain that it was introduced with A20 experimental -- definitely saw that really early. I'm just confused how the code decides that, because I can't find another attribute in the XML that would govern that.
@@WaywardEko But it is still a stupid decision. There is an opening right through the middle to interact with the other side. Why can't I repair stuff on the other side??
Cop spit is considered a bullet - so if you can shoot through they can. The trick is that zombies target you are the fastest way to get to you. So if you use that to your advantage and place turrets in flanking positions - it’s unlikely the cops will turn that direction to spit
@@WaywardEko i dunno if they changed the cops spit in the recent update or the blocks cos the bars i was using before spit didnt get thru and now it goes thru.. is it better to have turrets one block up so they go for headshots or does the turret automatically aim for the head?
Great question - I will need to research that once because it will depend on how throwables are classified. I know they won’t go through any of the bars, railings, security grates. It’s possible they will go through some of the half blocks. I usually use shutters for throwables.
Ill just use perhaps 3 layers of the metal truss 3d to cage my self protected while i can shoot the zombies in my secure location jobs where u have to kill 100+ zombies that just keep spawning untill u hit the kill count lol
@@mikecarter3983 Nope. I believe the cop vomit counts as bullet/arrow type projectile and will go through. No answer to shooting out but stopping that. I think the best use case here is for traps that are offset from your fighting position as it's unlikely for cops to target them.
@@WaywardEko I solved the vomit problem by making myself a mod that seriously nerfs the vomit. With my mod installed the cops can only vomit for about a 6 meter distance and the vomit does only five hit points worth of block damage now.
Bruh... okk I don't care about wiring. What are all the blocks with no bullet collision? Baluster rails or whatever are really chunky so I'd like to know what the others are. I need a TLDR list because this video seems mislabeled and just talks about wiring and repairing for most of these blocks...
@@WaywardEko you literally only spoke about wiring most of the video then said, "mustve acdidentally shot this one away" leading me to believe that the line up had everything to do with the only thing you were talking about (wiring) and nothing to do with bullet collision unless you mentioned it on the specific block... I'm good. I just tested in prefab editor and tester. Don't tag me again
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Love this video, so helpful! I'm a huge fan of the railing block, myself. I enjoy being able to repair, shoot, and perhaps most importantly paint thru shapes 😛
Every time I watched you build one of your "melee stations," I always wondered what block would work best for underneath. Now, I know it's Railings... and why 😎👍
I'm really thinking you have a paint fetish ... but then again, so do I.
This was really informative mate. I have been using the railings myself but didn't realise there were so many blocks with collision turned off. Thanks Eko, I'll definitely try some of these.
Welcome and enjoy!
This is interesting not just for turrets, but also has useful implications for powered doors.
if a turret can track through those blocks, motion sensors work past those blocks as well. That could help solve the "two sides and one trigger" problem powered doors run into in a new and interesting way. I would be worried that cops will also see / spit through them though.
You want to know something that will blow your mind? Motion sensor can sense through walls :) It's the dumbest thing ever, and I found that out the hard way on my last base and had to rewire them because I was triggering the garage doors a floor above through concrete w/ a motion sensor. try it out!
@@WaywardEko What? Is that another bug for alpha 20? I know in alpha 19 they could see through certain blocks but they sure didn't see through most of them.
@@GunChronicles they definitely go through the basic cube shape.
Your timing is impeccable, currently doing a wasteland only run and just started construction of the horde base. I've got some ideas now. Thank you for the Video Eko, you da man ❤
Just an FYI - some of these blocks have been patched.
Doing some (very) brief testing, some blocks that seem to work like the now patched Baluster Corner 01 are:
Siding Burnt 01 - Has way less hit points then a full block would, but you can shoot straight through it and one side is identical to the side of a full block.
Plate Bracket Centered - This is the magic block for now I think. Has full hit points and one face that is identical to a full block. Can shoot straight through it like it isn't there.
Cube 1/2 Centered Confessional - Honorable mention. Doesn't have a full face like the previous two but you can shoot straight through it even if it is oriented side on such that there is no visible gap that you would be shooting through. Might be applicable in some niche ways.
Happy building.
I thought I was the one that invented the wheel with the Balusters lmao, but man when I found out about them I couldn't believe my eyes at all.
It works.
It just works.
Maybe we found them at the same time!
@@WaywardEko Most possibly lmfao
Also, not sure if you know, but if you place Powered Hatches on a block on the floor (vertically to one side so the hatch door opens down towards the floor and closes upwards, you can set them with motion sensors so as to make the sensor tell the hatches when to open up when detecting zombies, and place turrets behind the hatches. Since the hatches will be closed with no motion, the turrets won't have any line of sight and thus not shoot unneccessarily at either normal zombies, or stuff like bunnies. Saves a lot of ammo and repairs for horde night.
I have the hatches, and electric fences operating all by motion sensors so when a zombie shows up, everything is powered up for an instant, the zombie dies, and I don't waste much power usage in the process, but it's like a bunker. All closed up until a zombie shows up and the bunker opens up and turrets start raining hell on them then the hatches close again.
It's fun, should give it a try.
"Uh huh, huh, huh, huh. Reach around." - Butthead
Seriously, though, VERY good information! I never would have thought to even try these.
I thought it as I was editing and decided it needed to stay :)
Good information is welcome. You just through the book of Good information our way. That is not welcome but loved. Very much appreciation WaywardEko. You are No.1
thank you!!
Video turned out amazing! Great info! Thanks Eko!
Quite welcome Doll!!
great vid i stopped my game play when i saw this pop up so i didnt miss anything! thank you for the information!
Hope you get some good use!
Very interesting info, I didn't know that there were blocks you could shoot through, thanks.😲👍🏾😊
I only knew a few so this research was enlightening for me too!!
I'm back, needed a refresher 😆
There is definitely some fun stuff here to play with!
Very useful and informative. Thanks for doing all of the testing and sharing with the rest of us.
Absolutely! Thanks and enjoy!
the one problem i'm encountering with the metal truss 3d block is that zombies can end up inside them, seems mostly to happen when they ragdoll from being stunned.
I typically use them in places where they are unlikely to ragdoll, so I haven't seen that. That said I've seem them glitch through a lot in A20, so I'm not surprised.
@@WaywardEko Hell in A20 I glitch through so much crap
one of the best build videos in the community. you are a master at this way. kudos! this should spike those subs man....GAMECHANGER!
Thanks Jamaal! Looking forward to our colab!
This is some really good info. Excellent work :)
Thanks kindly SnowBee!
This video is underrated. This was extremely informative. Thank you for your thorough research!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome! Thank you for the hard work and great information. Going to use this. We appreciate you!
Share with me how you do!! Curious to see how folks leverage this!
@WaywardEko I mean if you're being serious sure. but how. your Discord?
@@froststormgaming9892 always serious about seeing how people leverage stuff like this!! And yes - discord is perfect
Love the concept of this. Very informative. Looking forward to the future Siding Burnt 01/uses for unique blocks in gardening video.
Thanks banana!!
Brilliant video man. Keep it up. I'll have to wade through this xml file, have been poking around the others.
There is some interesting stuff in there! Let me know what you find and thanks for the feedback!
Nice vid bro! TH-cam took its sweet time recommending me some decent 7D2D tutorial creators, as I'm new to the scene. Love your work! Time to get crafting
Thanks kindly!! Drop in Wednesday nights CST and I stream from the community server or pop on and play to meet some awesome builders!
I'm late to the video and shoot through blocks. This was very informative, and can't wait to get building. Thanks man!
Quite welcome! This one as so much potential to play with.
Oh MY.... this changes my entire thinking for horde bases....
Enjoy!
@@WaywardEko I already make fully autonomous AFK horde bases that survive very late game but this makes a big change in the way I will look at the blocks and integration into traps and other features.
My Last base was a fully AFK with nothing more than 2 sledges and fall damage to kill the horde
Very nice study on block types, here's hoping the unfun pimps don't see this and patch it out lol
Preach!
Yeah wow dude this is good to know. Also, "Bars are dead to me now..." ha ha ha
I know right! So much to play with!
Thanks for the video! I learned a few things!! Now to freeze-frame/screencap each block of your bunker-traps so I may try and replicate it. :)
One heads up - they changed the baluster block in A21 --- no longer a good cheater block!
@@WaywardEko Thanks for the tip! :)
Thanks for the tip! :)
@@WaywardEko, I was wondering if they made changes since this video. Of course they had to nerf blocks. Good to know. Thanks for the info & especially what to look for in the coding! Subscribed.
Great video as always! This will totally change the way my bases are built and the blocks I use to build them.
There really is some awesome potential.!
Thank you for your time and testing! I need this information for my projects. Good work :)
Absolutely! Glad it helped!
Thanks for the very informative Tests! The Railings and 3d Trussing alone are very nice blocks to know, but the Baluster Corner opens up so much nice Design possibilities!
I have so many ideas brewing for this myself!!
great knowledge going forward! Thanks a lot, and keep the content coming, great stuff!
Thanks much Steven! Will do!
I used trussing 3d in my horde base on my new playthrough, I only used it because it was one of the 2 blocks available in Alpha 9 to 12 that you could stand on and shoot through for horde base overhangs and now to see an OG keystone horde base component come back as a pivotal use in a horde base is kinda poetic.
I didn't think to use it as a part of an endgame base to take advantage of its small hitbox, in fact I was annoyed when I upgraded a block I didn't intend to, through my trussing blocks. Will consider using these shapes as the weeks go by.
Very concise and informative 7 Days to Die channel, subbed and liked.
Thanks kindly for the feedback!
@@WaywardEko Was planning to start on some PvP once exams are over, initially thought arrow slits would have been a good way to have a wide arc of fire from a vantage point while enemies have a small angle to hit you from but guess not.
I think with regards to maybe a follow up for future tutorials would be to cover which shapes have hitboxes that can be melee'd through, and which ones are ideal for melee horde bases.
Excellent idea - I think doing a vid on the overall melee fighting position would work well!
Nice info. Easy for TFP to patch some of those out, if they wanted to. I've been using the railing block a LOT since I found out about it, and since the arrow slits were changed. I'm still looking for a high visibility replacement for the horizontal poles at my fighting point though (i put a rail on the bottom and pole block on top right now, but keep shooting the pole block when dogs arrive). Round ladders might be worth a try.
Yeah - never know what they will decide to shift. My guess for the baluster corner is that it got slipped in with the baluster rail as an accident. Some of the other blocks are a little bizarre.
Protecting switches and other controls is going to be the most useful thing I use from this video. Dealt with one cop getting in and my switches were all kaputz
Since they added the shutters, I typically put all my switches behind shutters now. I will hide relays behind railings for access, but only if they aren't in line of sight of potential cop spit.
Very insightful, thanks for the work man
Welcome DogBee!
Great video, amazing how much thought was put into it! Can I ask though, with bullets being able to be fired through, does that mean cop spit can come in also?
Thanks Teisharocz! Yes - you are spot on in your assumption. Cops/Vulture spit can pass through so I recommend putting traps behind them instead of standing behind some of those special blocks ... or if you are using the railings - be aware that they can shoot through.
Great info man! Thanks for sharing. I’ll be putting this to use in a new base very soon.
Sweet! Some fun blocks to play with !
Awesome video. Thank you for sharing your info.
Absolutely! Glad you enjoyed!
Great work man. Thanks.
Thanks kindly!
You mentioned looking for blocks that have interesting implications for gardening. I'm also interested in blocks that allow you to hide solar banks. If there are blocks that appear solid but let sunlight through, that's really intriguing to me.
Here you go ... th-cam.com/video/WaowUodoJ3k/w-d-xo.html
Protip: you can rotate vault doors sideways! Not always a replacement for hatches but it's nice being able to close the whole thing with one button.
For sure! I use vault doors for switchable lanes frequently!
GREAT video dewd! thanks a lot.
Thanks kindly!
I play PVP and that would be awesome to use as a base defense. But I'm almost afraid people will think I'm hacking lol.
Great discoveries, my man!
Tell me how it goes! I think it would be hilarious honestly.
@@WaywardEko I'll probably have to build something above ground to actually see this in action. No one ever finds my underground bases lol.
Awesome Video!
Incredibly informative. I'd give it more likes if i could.
One question though... does cop (or vulture) vomit count as the same kind of projectile as bullets/arrows? Or are there any "one way mirrors" which allow gunfire, but protect against cop vomit? I was under the impression that the arrow slits could do this. But I'm not positive, and are there others? PS: I really miss being able to reach through arrow slits.
Glad you enjoyed! Cop spit counts as a projectile same as bullets/arrows. There are no one-way mirrors. Arrow slits just give the illusion of this. Try tossing a spear through one of them and you'll see it goes right through ... even the meaty part.
Very nice video, thanks for the great content!!
Quite welcome !!
At 12:54, what are the blocks you are using for melee combat? I'm used to just using standard small square corner pillars (can't remember proper name).
I typically use railings for the bottom to stop crawlers but allow you to grab loot, then a combination of scaffolding plate and small ibeam.
@@WaywardEko Sorry, I never saw that you replied. Thank you. I'd love to build this little base.
Question: Is there a diagonal block you can connect wires through? Like the the slanted security gate but you can wire through and repair? Even a hollow ramp. I need something that can go along side a ramp but you can repair through. Thanks!!! Great video!! I needed all that info! :) I'm doing my version of the GNS horde base and am making stuff up as I go :)
Answer: LOL.. between yesterday and today i found a solution in game. The ladder, the not cute one, rustic one, has a diagonal version. IT ALLOWS WIRING!! lol... i tried everything in game... I didn't know it was there and it works!! I can climb up it and wire through it. Hope it helps someone else :)
Nice find!!
Great video and thorough explanation. So I have a group that is surviving blood moon events BUT we get envious of all the loot bags that drop and then disappear. All that fat lewt goes no where.
We have a bigger area with a pit for pipe bombs and blade traps, BUT was thinking about making the floor of this pit out of steel bars, then add two blocks below so we can walk around and collect loot bag drops by looking up (only zombie issues SHOULD be cops spitting and demolitioners exploding.
Is there a bar shake that would let the loot bags fall through?
OR is there a slopped block that would have the bags all fall to a collection point (kind of thinking out loud here) and collect the stacks of loot Bags from A secure entry point???
No blocks that the loot bags would fall through. I have seen people build underground fighting positions so that when the zombies drop stuff, it rolls to the fighting position where you can snag it. You can also do something like I did on my Winter’s Edge base which has two fighting lanes inside the base that you can switch one off and loot during horde night.
@@WaywardEko great answer thanks!!!
on the balister corner, can zombies see through it? I have noticed in my gaming that spitting cops were attacking me from the side with spit while I had regular solid rectangle blocks for that express purpose, i.e. prevent them from seeing me. This happened on consecutive horde nights too. So I'm going to check this out after your block revelations that is if they can see through blocks. Thanks again.
I need to put a note at the top of the video - they change the baluster block in A21. It’s no longer the magical block it was. Cop spit is becoming an issue with any non-full block sadly.
Just saying ty for the video. Another YT channel SnowBee mentioned you in his recent video and pointed to this one. 😀
Quite welcome! SnowBee is the great Darkness Falls knowledge wielder!
@@WaywardEko Yes he is. In this case it was for Apocalypse Now mod. 😀
holy hell he threw that spear through solid matter.
the ideas are percolating.
That's what I was thinking when I tested it the first time!
In regards to your turrets in this video, do spray bullets end up damaging the opposite turret? Is that what had caused the damage when you were showing us how they can be accessed to repair them? I guess in a kill corridor, you could just have one turret per block/row and stagger them.
Turrets can’t damage other turrets. I just have a habit of always making things repairable. Also cops could spot back through the blocks
@@WaywardEko Ahh ok great to know, thanks!
Great info. Can you include block health also since that will affect viability?
Block health is dictated by material, not shape. They briefly changed that and then reverted back to all blocks having the same health after the community raged.
@@WaywardEko just used some burning blocks and they're like 1/4 hp of standard blocks. Zombies went for that instead of the doors.
did you ever do a horde base break down on this base. i looked through the list and didnt see but it might be called something I overlooked?
Still in my backlog. Taking a small vanilla break and doing some Undead Legacy and then will circle back to this base!
I am currently playing with these blocks in creative mode and I am unable to access the dart traps through either the 3d trussing blocks or the railings. Anything I am missing? Thanks for the videos, liked and subscribed!
Ahh .. you can't connect electricity if you are in the prefab editor -- assuming that is what you mean by creative mode.
thanks eko great info
Quite welcome!
I wanna see that cute compact base you made as a How to Hord night base
It's in my backlog. I think it has huge potential as an early game base or as an outpost.
PLEASE talk about Air Duct shape, zombies can get stuck in a vertical shaft of it and neither player nor zombie can damage it from the inside
I've never run into this cause I always place them horizontally.
Now, with this information readily available to all, the question begs to be answered; At what points in a horde base is each block most useful, and why?
I'm looking forward to seeing those answers come out in future brilliant builds of yours, Eko.
There are sooo many configurations, but I do have a base in mind that I want to play with.
Maybe I missed it, but does cop spit/vulture spit go through those shootable blocks too?
You didn't -- I failed to cover that one. Yes - cop and vulture spit can pass through as well.
Question, can cop spit still get you through all of the shootable blocks? Even the 'invisible' ones that the turrets shoot through?
Yes -- it is a projectile and if you can shoot through -- it they can. There are no one way mirrors.
If bullet collision is off, does that mean puke will pass through? Can cops see thru blocks that they can shoot thru? Or do they break line of sight and prevent cops from puking?
I saw your answer other comments that puke will pass thru, but you haven't touched on line of sight (will a screamer see you?) And/or opacity and farming applications
They can see you! Farming applications is an upcoming video - maybe this week!
premieres in 7 hours.
but i dont want to wait.
why cant i watch it now?
You can watch it now!
@@WaywardEko yay
Nothing like cold hard science when building bases, my question would be though, which blocks protect from explosion damage, and cop spit?
All blocks stop explosion damage. Interestingly have a tiny 1/8 block is treated the same as a full block in that regards.
There are no blocks that block cop spit but allow your bullets through - they are in the same catagory.
@@WaywardEko amazing thanks 😊
Now that 1.0 is here, it doesn't look like Balusters work anymore.
Yup - they patched it out. I need to do an updated video on interesting blocks to use!
is there a way to make it so u can see thru the blocks you can shoot thru but not see thru so u can tell where zombies are & shoot them urself? or is it only good for turrets? what would be good would be some sort of one way mirror/window thing like they have in police station interrogation rooms.. especially for pvp... so you can shoot enemies but they cant see you
I don’t think they have any blocks like that that I have found - really more for turrets.
Are there any blocks that the robotic sledge can “push” through and damage the block?
I don’t think so … because they only have a 1 block range I don’t think they could reach through.
which block type was the turret shooting through?
Baluster corner
Any luck with molotovs? I was trying to find one i could walk on and throw a moly through. I wasnt successful :(
The best trick there is to put a shutter down and then make sure you have a 1/4 block centered below it so you can throw through but won't fall through. My base video coming out later this week will use that mechanic.
do cops see and spit through them?
Yes. That makes them more valuable to offset and use traps than standing behind them.
hey does this work with throwables?
nope - they are not considered projectiles.
ty
What I still wonder is ... a block YOU can shoot through ... also a COP could spit through? ...and it won't protect the blocks behind it in case a demolisher's exploding...!?
ah okay, I just read another guy was asking this and got answered, ty :) (so cops can spit through them...)
Yes - sorry - cop spit is a bullet type I believe and thus can pass through.
Do you know how do these blocks work with the cop vomit?
Cop Vomit counts as a bullet and will pass through.
What about diagonal fighting positions ?
You can use diagonal security grates.
When did they change/nerf the arrow slits? And more important WHY? Not being able to repair through them is stupid.
I am fairly certain that it was introduced with A20 experimental -- definitely saw that really early. I'm just confused how the code decides that, because I can't find another attribute in the XML that would govern that.
@@WaywardEko But it is still a stupid decision. There is an opening right through the middle to interact with the other side. Why can't I repair stuff on the other side??
What projectile is cop vomit classed as?
I believe it counts a bullet.
Is this related to why you will get rained on while indoors? 🧐
I would say yes ... except that it also rains through all the solid blocks you can't shoot through :)
@@WaywardEko ahh i see... thanks for the reply :)
Baluster corner been fixed cant shoot through no more
Yup - they modified the characteristics in A21.
what block can you shoot thru but cops cant spit thru or see you?
Cop spit is considered a bullet - so if you can shoot through they can. The trick is that zombies target you are the fastest way to get to you. So if you use that to your advantage and place turrets in flanking positions - it’s unlikely the cops will turn that direction to spit
@@WaywardEko i dunno if they changed the cops spit in the recent update or the blocks cos the bars i was using before spit didnt get thru and now it goes thru.. is it better to have turrets one block up so they go for headshots or does the turret automatically aim for the head?
What about throwables?
Great question - I will need to research that once because it will depend on how throwables are classified. I know they won’t go through any of the bars, railings, security grates. It’s possible they will go through some of the half blocks. I usually use shutters for throwables.
How does this work in A22?
They fixed the baluster block ... all the rest is still relevant in A21.
And the stupid part is that frame block with shape of ramp cant be shoot through
Yup. All things are not created equal.
Ill just use perhaps 3 layers of the metal truss 3d to cage my self protected while i can shoot the zombies in my secure location jobs where u have to kill 100+ zombies that just keep spawning untill u hit the kill count lol
That'll do it for sure! 3d truss blocks are magical. Great for base pillar supports as well!
Do you know if these are still correct in the current version?
The baluster block got patched out, but I believe the rest is still valid.
😘👌
thanks Sean!
Cop vomit???
Yup! The green goo they spew at you.
@@WaywardEko do the blocks you can shoot through stop the vomit
@@mikecarter3983 Nope. I believe the cop vomit counts as bullet/arrow type projectile and will go through. No answer to shooting out but stopping that. I think the best use case here is for traps that are offset from your fighting position as it's unlikely for cops to target them.
@@WaywardEko I solved the vomit problem by making myself a mod that seriously nerfs the vomit. With my mod installed the cops can only vomit for about a 6 meter distance and the vomit does only five hit points worth of block damage now.
Just use flipped and inversed scaffolding ladders so they act as bars. Blocks most vomits, you can shoot and melee through.
Bruh... okk I don't care about wiring. What are all the blocks with no bullet collision? Baluster rails or whatever are really chunky so I'd like to know what the others are. I need a TLDR list because this video seems mislabeled and just talks about wiring and repairing for most of these blocks...
Nothing mislabeled. I walked through every block you can shoot through and even put a list up. th-cam.com/video/lcXF83asvrQ/w-d-xo.html
@@WaywardEko you literally only spoke about wiring most of the video then said, "mustve acdidentally shot this one away" leading me to believe that the line up had everything to do with the only thing you were talking about (wiring) and nothing to do with bullet collision unless you mentioned it on the specific block... I'm good. I just tested in prefab editor and tester. Don't tag me again