Half Time Shuffle With 3 Over 4 Polyrhythm - Icanplaydrums.com
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Its not every day that I come across a rhythm that makes me pause and really listen. Youve managed to articulate the nuances of a challenging polyrhythm while maintaining the essence of a half-time shuffle. This is the kind of material Id love to intro
thanks very much, yeah the trick is to get the poly idea across strongly, but without losing the original time feel. That way it really stands out like 3D (imo). Enjoy!
Back when I played in a band, our drummer tried incorporating polyrhythms into our songs. It was a challenge but so rewarding when it clicked. Hearing this makes me miss those days.
Glad to hear it! Sounds great when everyone is together. Horrible when not haha
The way you play this reminds me so much of Dennis Chambers. I remember him pulling off a complex pattern like this during a live set. Truly in the league of drumming greats with this one.
yes that's exactly what it is! I got this from Dennis video you can see that here: th-cam.com/video/_YEG0WX4Hcc/w-d-xo.html - I'm not doing exactly what he's doing, but the outline is similar.
Is this what a polyrhythm sounds like? Sounds complex but also kind of groovy. I think Ill look up more about it. Thanks for sharing this. Learned something new today.
this is one application of using a poly in a beat. But there are lots of ways to use them. Glad you like it!
Saw something like this at a jazz club in London. The complexity and groove of the rhythm kept the audience hooked. Its not every day you get to experience such unique beats live.
Awesome! Yes when done tastefully it can fit in nicely. Probably not a great idea on a pop gig, but Jazz club for sure :)
Dude this is a slick groove, really saucy!
Glad you like it, and I agree :)
Im not a drummer, but I can tell this is unique. How do you even play 3 over 4? I tried to tap along but got lost. The half-time shuffle part is cool. I wanna hear more.
As long as you're playing accents on every 4th triplet - you have the polyrhythm. Does that help?
Impressive rhythm
cheers
Its always refreshing to hear a different take on rhythms.
thanks :)
EPIC LESSON!!!
cheers Liam!
Thats a rhythm I could listen to for a while.
me too! It's kind of hypnotic after a while..
Nice blend of polyrhythms and shuffle.
thanks, I agree :)
Stellar playing and teaching mate, well done.
thanks Oscar :)
Bro, this mad! 🔥 U drum like alien or somethin 🛸
yes an alien sent back in time to teach drum patterns.
Solid shuffle feel
thanks
It’s all in those pluggas 😂. Nice lesson thanks Jack!
You got that right!
Good job on this one.
why thank you.
This rhythm sounds pretty cool. I think Ive heard something similar before. Not sure where though. But this one is different. Keep it up.
cheers!
Very well explained, enjoyed this.
Hey Ben - been a minute, hope you're well!
Never heared this before 🎧 sounds kinda wild lol 🌀🥁
:)
Subtle yet powerful.
love this.
Great lesson! I just watched this and started applying the same pattern on the ride and hi hat, starting with my right hand on the ride and opening the hi hat on every 4th third note. Sounds incredible!
Awesome stuff! Would love to see this in action.. shoot me a vid.
Loving the polyrhythm.
appreciate it
Damn fine lesson there Jack, you have a fantastic way of breaking things down (so ppl like me can understand them!!).
Thanks Johnnie, much appreciated mate!
Ive heard many rhythms but this is quite unique.
thanks Murat.
Never really understood drum patterns before. This one caught my attention though. Its like two rhythms in one. Kind of messes with my head. But in a good way.
Yep fair call. The more you listen the more it makes sense.
This is a truly intriguing rhythm. How do you decide which drum or cymbal gets which part of the polyrhythm? Is there a method to this, or is it purely based on feel?
Great question. Personally, if there is a 2 or 4 as one of the rhythms, I'll make that the "drum beat" (kick and snare), or a 3 you can make a waltz. And from there I usually play the other rhythm as the rhythm "on top". In this instance the 3 is on top of the 4 beats. 3 over 4.
Ive heard a lot about polyrhythms, but this is pretty advanced. How did you train your hands and feet to work independently yet harmoniously? Are there any exercises you recommend?
I spent years practicing rudiments and other patterns over different foot ostinatos; samba, baiao etc. But honestly, if you just take the steps shown in this video slowly, you can play this beat.
How did you manage to keep the shuffle feel consistent while introducing the 3 over 4 polyrhythm? Is there a particular technique or mnemonic you used?
No, just slow, accurate practice.
love this. question - can you use this rythm in other grooves or just triplet grooves like shuffles and so on???
this particular groove works well for 3 over 4. But you can build a polyrhythmic groove from any poly.
Love the tats Jack - when did you get inked?
About a year ago mate, after much deliberation on designs and artist :)
awesome lesson,, what you said about building the polyrhythm as far as the method involved - does that work for any polyrhythm or just this one?
it works for absolutely any polyrhythm! 4 over 5 for example... 4 accents over 5 beats. 5 beats = 5/4 time. Subdivide all 5 beats by 4 which is just 16ths. Then place an accent over every 5th 16th. That's the outline, and build a groove from there.
😱 what even this rhythm? So confuse but like 🤔
haha
Decent attempt, but I think theres room for improvement.
Any part in particular?
The concept is cool, but the execution could be better.
OK thanks for the feedback, appreciate it.
His execution is just fine. What a pointless comment, wtf is wrong with you?
What ?